View Full Version : Stripping when you don't "NEED" to.
txchick008
08-28-2008, 06:04 AM
:yes: I see your points, but there's no need to kick her when she's already clearly down, going through a hard time and feeling miserable. We've all been in bad places, and it is human to feel jealous or resentful of people who seem to have it all while you're struggling for the scraps.
This is true. However, NOW is as good as a time than ever, to toughen up. Whining about how guys don't hit on her on the street anymore, and how this chick at the club has it so much better - come on. What a waste of time and energy. She shows her age in almost every post...for God's sakes, grow up already, stop worrying about meaningless crap, and handle your own sh*t.
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Darcy Foxx
08-28-2008, 06:05 AM
She has said that if you strip and you dont need to you are desrespecting your parents? I mean that is just offensive and ridiculous.
i think mooching of your parents for your whole life is a hell of a lot more disrespectful than going out and earning your own way in life.
yeah my parents have a lot of money, but it's not like it was just handed to them. when i was born my parents struggled to make ends meet while dad worked his way through college to get a really awesome job, and now mum and dad are both in really solid, well-paying, successful careers but they worked their fucking asses off to get there!
they will pay the majority of my tuition fees, because the most important thing to them is for me to have a degree and a career. but i would not for one second see them as a free ride through life. yes they will sometimes surprise me by paying my car registration for me or something else like that, but i strip because i want to be independent and support myself and live a high quality of life. no i don't have tuition fees to pay off but i like living in a nice apartment, i like having nice clothes, i like being able to afford to do the things that i want to do. my parents are very loving but they are not idiots, they would never just pay my rent and totally support me, because they know that would be teaching me bad values.
so yeah, if that makes me selfish and ungrateful and disrespectful... ::)
jaizaine
08-28-2008, 06:06 AM
This is true. However, NOW is as good as a time than ever, to toughen up. Whining about how guys don't hit on her on the street anymore, and how this chick at the club has it so much better - come on. What a waste of time and energy. She shows her age in almost every post...for God's sakes, grow up already, stop worrying about meaningless crap, and handle your own sh*t.
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LMAO :highfive: :heartbeat
jaizaine
08-28-2008, 06:09 AM
i think mooching of your parents for your whole life is a hell of a lot more disrespectful than going out and earning your own way in life.
yeah my parents have a lot of money, but it's not like it was just handed to them. when i was born my parents struggled to make ends meet while dad worked his way through college to get a really awesome job, and now mum and dad are both in really solid, well-paying, successful careers but they worked their fucking asses off to get there!
they will pay the majority of my tuition fees, because the most important thing to them is for me to have a degree and a career. but i would not for one second see them as a free ride through life. yes they will sometimes surprise me by paying my car registration for me or something else like that, but i strip because i want to be independent and support myself and live a high quality of life. no i don't have tuition fees to pay off but i like living in a nice apartment, i like having nice clothes, i like being able to afford to do the things that i want to do. my parents are very loving but they are not idiots, they would never just pay my rent and totally support me, because they know that would be teaching me bad values.
so yeah, if that makes me selfish and ungrateful and disrespectful... ::)
Exactly. I hate it when people bitch and say "mummy and daddy paid for it". Parents should want to give their children the best start in life and why would most people want to knock that offer back.
Geez are we stupid for wanting to work a job where we can work few hours and make such great money. Oh shit maybe we should all quit stripping and go work somewhere that doesn't pay well so that no one can get jealous and accuse us of being greedy!!
NewMoon
08-28-2008, 06:13 AM
I don't think anything the OP has written here even comes close to being a normal amount of jealousy.
I think her negative emotions are more caused by her parents and her resent towards them than the girl whose tuition is paid. The girl just reminds her of her parents, ya know?
At least that is the way it was with me...
hot4ablackchick
08-28-2008, 06:40 AM
^^
LMAO I love your posts!!
I am not going to say the exact figure but I have over $50k in HECS debt for my tuiton fees. For those in the US HECS stands for higher education loan scheme and it's a system where u can defer the payment for your tuiton and pay it later when you start to earn over a specific amount of money. It's interest free but you do have to pay it back.
This seems daunting at times to me but I am grateful that the scheme was in place so that I could attend university. My parents would have helped me out with it but before I started dancing i could not have contributed anything to that and they would have had to get a loan which would accrue interest and I didn't want that.
I am not jealous of my friends whose parents just paid that amount up front for them. I think jealousy is one of the ugliest emotions and while it is normal I don't think anything the OP has written here even comes close to being a normal amount of jealousy.
She has said that if you strip and you dont need to you are desrespecting your parents? I mean that is just offensive and ridiculous.
Just coz she hates stripping doesn't give her the right to come on here and say things like that without expecting some backlash for it.
:yes: I know it may have a lot to do with stress the OP is under, but I still don't get what the hell she's thinking. I would be VERY offended if some other dancer called me selfish and ungrateful because I could live on my hubby's income alone and I didn't "need to" dance?? What kind of crazy shit is that to say? Maybe she wants her own money or she had always dreamed of being a stripper so she wanted to try it. It really doesn't matter what the reason is to me, and I love how the OP just KNOWS she is ungrateful. Even if my parents gave me a lot more, I would still strip because I hate depending on others and having to ask people for things. This offends me anyway because I don't technically "need" to dance right now either, but that doesn't mean I don't appreciate what I have. Even when I wasn't married and was in much tougher times, I have never been that jealous, and certainly not resentful of dancers that worked, but didn't "need to" as badly as I did. Whatever the hell that even means. I guess I always figured that everyone needed a job at a certain age/time in their life. I didn't realize that the SC was like the Public Aid office.....
Oh, I love your posts as well Jaiz!
lilywoo
08-28-2008, 06:47 AM
okay i rarely post but this has really upset me. I might as well be the girl the OP is bitching about.
I started stripping when I was 18, my parents paid for my university and had paid for my boarding school. However I decided I didn't want to be a 'trust' fund baby all my life and took a year out to travel and earn some money. I did this by moving cities and getting a bar job. Then I took a pole class for a laugh and was asked by the venue to start stripping. My parents weren't really that pleased but my dad understood why I wanted to work for myself.
My dad is from a really poor area of Scotland and worked his arse off to get to where he is now. He has no education and all the rest of his family are alchoholics. So I've got a strong work ethic from him.
They always told me I wouldn't have to work when I got to uni, thats why they saved for so many years. I come from a privledged family and I don't care what people think; I'm proud of my parents for working so hard!
I worked two other jobs alongside stripping whilst at uni and earnt enough to present my parents with a cheque on my graduation to pay for them to go on holiday to say thank you for all that they had done. This was alongside another £5,000 that I sneakily gave to my mum that my dad wouldn't have accepted. I've since paid back all the tuition they paid for.
You have no idea why this girl wants to earn extra money, maybe its the feeling of self worth and actually wanting to be your own person.
I've just started dancing again because I want to buy a car. I don't need to, I could have just asked my dad but why the hell would I want to do that??
I have a full time job that doesn't pay anywhere near as well as dancing but I also have no credit cards and hardly ever go nuts shopping. Anything I do want, I work for and give this girl some credit maybe she wanted to do the same!!
Having university paid for is very different to having EVERYTHING paid for.
I understand perhaps this is just an outlet for not being happy about dancing and feeling the world just isn't fair right now, but seriously guessing about someones circumstances and then slagging them for it isn't going to do your state of mind any favours.
Jenny
08-28-2008, 06:50 AM
It's a job, not a charity or a soup kitchen. People take them for a variety of reasons. It is not doled out based on need. And strippers are allowed to do whatever they want with their money.
Taking this job hardly means that she is ungrateful for what her parents are doing, and the degree of "disrespect" being shown is... well, it is an issue between them and her and has nothing to do with a job or any co workers or classmates.
I'm sorry, hon, but the working world doesn't dole out jobs or money based on what other income you might have or what you are going to spend the money you earn on.
PrettyCurlieQ
08-28-2008, 06:58 AM
Maybe she likes it. And who are you to say she shouldn't be on that stage? If you don't like her or what she's doing, that's a personal issue IMO, but I don't see her dancing because she wants to as a problem. Even if she doesn't need it to pay for school, I think it's great when people like what they do. I'd rather work with girls who like dancing than girls who hate it and are bitter.
cherry_sin
08-28-2008, 07:02 AM
Dancing is not just a job for the desperate, and it is not just for girls who have no other way to support themselves. I make mad cash doing phone sex and I still take my ass in to work and get on the pole. I didn't realize I had to be in desperate straits to want to take my clothes off.
If I had a daughter willing to work for things she wanted when she knew that if she asked I'd get them for her, I'd APPLAUD her. And that goes for working at a club or working at Starbucks - they're both just a job.
I enjoy my job stripping and make great money at it. Maybe she does too! Obviously she must not hate it or else she'd give up some of her shopping sprees. I think the issue here is that if you could quit, you would - and she can quit, and doesn't.
I think it's time for you to find a new line of work. It seems like you're unhappy and view it as a demeaning/difficult/"desperation" type of job. If you can't fathom anyone being happy stripping or doing it as a hobby/fun money kind of job I don't think you should be doing it anymore.
txchick008
08-28-2008, 07:34 AM
I would be VERY offended if some other dancer called me selfish and ungrateful because I could live on my hubby's income alone and I didn't "need to" dance?? What kind of crazy shit is that to say?
Exactly. I could live off my hubby's income if I wanted - but I choose not to. We would have to live a lot more frugal, and I wouldn't enjoy that. I wouldn't want to downsize our house or sell one of our cars. Just because we are not scraping the bottom of the barrel and we could live on $60K a year, doesn't mean I want to.
Joplin
08-28-2008, 07:46 AM
You chose to go to this school knowing how much it would cost to live and go there. There are PLENTY of cheaper schools, that if money was the problem you could have gone to, to at least get basic classes done.
I pay for my own schooling and have money to spare. My bf pays for my food and rent. By your theory after I make the 5,886$ for my tuition I should stop dancing because it's being disrespectful to my bf? That doesn't make sense.
Seriously, you may hate money, hate building credit, paying taxes, the whole system but not everyone else does. Most people are smarter then trying to fight that and want to save and make money while they can. It doesn't matter if you're a trust fund baby or have lived off food stamps your whole life, when you work you are earning your OWN money, not the governments or your parents. Huge difference.
Joy to the world
08-28-2008, 07:57 AM
....I am in college and my dad has given me the money to pay for my college....but I dance because I enjoy it more than a 'normal college job', I don't get scheduled making it easier during school, I try to make enough so I don't have to use what he gave me.....but I have a very expensive and time consuming degree, I am also trying to save money so that when I graduate I have money saved so I can take the best job offer (expirence wise) and not have to worry if it pays enough
I kno plenty of girls that dance for 'shopping money'.......there is nothing wrong with that
Zia_Abq
08-28-2008, 08:29 AM
I have danced before because I needed to and now I do it sometimes because I want to dance. I like the stage. I like the rush of hustling. Guess I'm one of those greedy bitches. Oh well. Sue me.
saphire123456
08-28-2008, 08:36 AM
Yeah!!! What they^ said..
Sveta
08-28-2008, 08:37 AM
If you can't fathom anyone being happy stripping or doing it as a hobby/fun money kind of job I don't think you should be doing it anymore.
It isn't realistic to tell someone they need to quit their job because they don't love it and it isn't "fun" for them. She's got a goal of paying for school, and the income potential as a stripper is going to get her there a lot faster than any other job. Sometimes you just have to tough it out in a job or circumstance you're not crazy about, and do what it takes to get to your ultimate goal. And if you're in a bad place and going through a rough time in life, ANY job is going to feel a lot more stressful.
I understand why some people are offended, but I think a little more compassion would go a long way. :-\
AudreyLeigh
08-28-2008, 08:38 AM
I didnt read every post but really, give me a break. So, OP, what constitutes NEED? At what point is it OK to dance and where does that line break?
So, if you only NEED $3,000 a month to live and make $4,000 that month dancing are you going to give that other cash to the NEEDY?
I mean c'mon, get a grip and grow up.
Passenger
08-28-2008, 09:05 AM
I have danced before because I needed to and now I do it sometimes because I want to dance. I like the stage. I like the rush of hustling. Guess I'm one of those greedy bitches. Oh well. Sue me.
QFT....me too, girl...me too.;)
Havana
08-28-2008, 09:14 AM
Wow.
Everybody has different circumstances, and different reasons why they dance. It's not up to you to judge anyone, or decide that they're reason for doing what they do is "selfish" or "greedy."
I don't pay for my schooling, but I have A LOT of other things that I have to pay for that are more important. You heard from SOMEBODY ELSE why she needed/wanted that money. Who knows, maybe she has to pay her own rent, maybe she has to pay her car note & insurance, or maybe her parents pay for everything EXCEPT for clothes, shoes, etc... & she could either look like a hobo, or get on her grind and get what she wants! There is nothing wrong with what she did.
I think in your circumstances, it is painful to see other's who have it so easy, why'll everyday can be a struggle. I understand, but don't get mad at them. Get motivated. You have a lot of potential, use it.
mollyzmoon
08-28-2008, 09:30 AM
Life is hard, even when it's easy. School and work is hard. I get that. Being on your own and being overwhelmed is tough, but that's life, that's growing up.
It doesn't matter why people dance. I don't resent the girls who dance and give it all to their boyfriends. That's their problem.
Once you're in the club, just assume that everyone working wants money too. Or maybe not. But they're their to do the same job as you. Lives outside the club, irrelevant. If those lives bother you, don't talk to the other dancers.
If feeling like a martyr makes your life easier, then go for it. But I bet you would be happier if you just accepted that life's not 'fair'. Plenty of people are way way worse off. Plenty of people have more money. Nothing to do with you.
Paris
08-28-2008, 09:34 AM
Don't worry about it. Girls that get into dancing merely for the thrill and not for the opportunity or out of financial need, don't last long. They don't seem to think that it is actually "work" and once they discover how hard being a dancer really is, they decided to go back on mommy and daddy's payroll.
I'd give her 3 months, tops.
Saoirse
08-28-2008, 09:49 AM
I actually think working in the adult industry in any faucet is a lot healthier for the person involved when you don't OMGNEEDTOMAKERENTNOWZ. You're more likely to pick and choose and find better employment.
Sveta
08-28-2008, 09:52 AM
I actually think working in the adult industry in any faucet is a lot healthier for the person involved when you don't OMGNEEDTOMAKERENTNOWZ. You're more likely to pick and choose and find better employment.
true that. When you desperately need money, it shows and you're less likely to make it (and more likely to be taken advantage of by customers who can smell the desperation, and more likely to attract the bottom-of-the-barrel customers.) When you don't need it, money flows easily to you.
Paris
08-28-2008, 09:59 AM
no, that's not what I said. She's being disrespectful to her parents by being UNGRATEFUL for what she has and not appreciating what she does have. The school she goes to is freaking EXPENSIVE and the area i live in is expensive and she doesn't have to do anything to live/study/eat/breathe and she doesn't appreciate it, obviously, because she wants to dance to buy clothes and purses and shit.
You need to consider the source. Does this woman even know what it means to be "poor"? She might think that she is having a tough time because she can't afford hair extensions and spring break trips every year. It is very likely she has no idea what it means to be wondering how on earth she is going to pay her rent or come up with bus money to get to work.
You are very young and inexperienced. Once you've spent some time around wealthy people, you will quickly see how out of touch they are with the majority of America.
I was dancing in a nearly empty club one night. Like there were literally only 5 customers in the whole place. I approached two gentlemen sitting together and struck up a conversation. One man walked over to the stage and tipped the girl $5. The other man chastised his friend for tipping because "You girls make like a thousand dollars a day, anyway".
I looked him in the eye and asked, "How do you figure? It is 9pm on a Friday night and there are more dancers than customers in here. Who is going to start handing out thousands of dollars tonight? You?"
His response, "So, you are telling me that you girls don't make $1K a day?"
"We are in Rocker, Montana. The unemployment rate is around 20%. Most people live in crappy little trailer homes. Why on earth would you think that dancers here would make $1K a day? That would require wealthy customers to be filling up this club. Are you just full of shit or are you really that dumb?" I replied.
His friend began laughing at my comment and said "He was born with a silver spoon in his mouth. Don't be too hard on him." then he handed me $10.
The first guy was literally speechless. And pissed. He didn't get it, and didn't want to hear about the reality of the situation. Rich people just don't understand how hard most of us have it.
britt244
08-28-2008, 10:18 AM
well. i am not reading this whole thread bc it will piss me off but here's all i have to say.
i guess i should stop dancing bc i dont need to and im taking that money from girls who do ::) when i was in school, my parents paid for that, plus my rent. eventually i started paying utilities, then part of my rent, and once schoolwas done i paid all my bills. however - if i were to stop dancing my parents would help me pay my bills bc they'd be so happy. so i dont "need" to. but guess what? i want to. i like not having to worry about money. i like being able to live on my own in an apartment that i like and can afford even though its more expensive. i like never having to worry if i want to go shopping, or take a trip, or anything else. and that's my god damned business.
sure, i'm greatful that i have parents who could and would help me out. but i dont want them to, any more than i want to get married and stop working. im a big girl who likes to support herself, even if i don't NEED to.
Rockell
08-28-2008, 10:20 AM
Don't worry about it. Girls that get into dancing merely for the thrill and not for the opportunity or out of financial need, don't last long. They don't seem to think that it is actually "work" and once they discover how hard being a dancer really is, they decided to go back on mommy and daddy's payroll.
I'd give her 3 months, tops.
Exactly. A good friend of mine from high school that started dancing at my club didn't "need" to strip--she lived at home with her mom, drove her mom's car, mom paid all her bills, she spent ALL of the money she earned on clothes and shopping. Needless to say, she didn't make very much money and was gone fast. She had zero motivation to work there anymore. Sometimes, having a drunk, sweaty fat guy trying to put his finger in your ass isn't worth that Coach purse, is it? Anyway, it didn't bother me in the least. The girls giving extras in the CR for an 8 ball while the rest of us pull teeth to get dances to pay rent, pay tuition, put away savings, etc bother me much more.
britt244
08-28-2008, 10:23 AM
Don't worry about it. Girls that get into dancing merely for the thrill and not for the opportunity or out of financial need, don't last long. They don't seem to think that it is actually "work" and once they discover how hard being a dancer really is, they decided to go back on mommy and daddy's payroll.
I'd give her 3 months, tops.
oh and also? ive been doing this for over 2 years. i may not have been as good with my money when my parents were paying my bills for me, but i certainly don't do this for a thrill.
kikidejavu
08-28-2008, 10:29 AM
i understand what the op is saying.
it just sucks ass to have to work yourself to the bone just to scrape by and pay for school when this chick gets to buy a prada bag with the money she earns.
but you have to take into consideration that stripping is not a last resort for everyone. alot of people would work the job even if they were making minimum wage just because they like the job, namely me.
Ava Jadore
08-28-2008, 10:31 AM
I admit I haven't read every post in this thread so this may be just repeated info. I dance...and I guess I don't really "HAVE" to. I have a day job that covers the majority of my bills. However dancing part-time is allowing me to pay off all my credit card debt and start saving to go back to school for another degree. Which are both major goals of mine right now. In general dancing isn't really hurting my life in any way right now so I figure what the hell.
britt244
08-28-2008, 10:40 AM
i understand what the op is saying.
it just sucks ass to have to work yourself to the bone just to scrap by and pay for school when this chick gets to buy a prada bag with the money she earns.
but you have to take into consideration that stripping is not a last resort for everyone. alot of people would work the job even if they were making minimum wage just because they like the job, namely me.
also there are people in the "normal" job market who spend their money on whatever they feel like it instead of bills. that's called life.
kermit210
08-28-2008, 10:41 AM
Just a neutral thought here.
Yes, the amateur has as much right to strip as any of us. It is a free country (well, kinda)
Maybe the OPs feelings were more about the amateur announcing that she didn't really need to strip, that it was only shopping money. We are all here for different reasons, which are nobody's business, but that might just suck to hear during a lousy month.
I compare it to having a 20 dollar night when rent is late, and hearing someone in the dressing room bragging about having a 2000.00 night. It's considered bad manners to talk about how much you make, maybe it's bad manners to also say (in a competitive work environment) that you didn't really need the money.
I just think the amateur is guilty of a feuax pas, and the OP is guilty of jealousy. I don't know anyone who is never guilty of either. I say let the amatuer strip and let the OP vent.
Just an opinion.......
Ms. Mia Roberts
08-28-2008, 11:13 AM
Just a neutral thought here.
Yes, the amateur has as much right to strip as any of us. It is a free country (well, kinda)
Maybe the OPs feelings were more about the amateur announcing that she didn't really need to strip, that it was only shopping money. We are all here for different reasons, which are nobody's business, but that might just suck to hear during a lousy month.
I compare it to having a 20 dollar night when rent is late, and hearing someone in the dressing room bragging about having a 2000.00 night. It's considered bad manners to talk about how much you make, maybe it's bad manners to also say (in a competitive work environment) that you didn't really need the money.
I just think the amateur is guilty of a feuax pas, and the OP is guilty of jealousy. I don't know anyone who is never guilty of either. I say let the amatuer strip and let the OP vent.
Just an opinion.......
I agree with this 100 percent. I'm scraping together money for school but i plan to dance even when i'm done and don't need to....just to live comfortably and because i enjoy it....but even with that being said.. i would just rather not hear the other girls talking about how much money they made and/ or what they are gonna spend on it. And i would never put that business out there to whom i'm working with either. That's why i don't ask and i don't tell.... cause i don't want jealousy of the other girls bringing down my mood....thats more customers i turn off with a stinky attitude and even less money i make. And if a girl is bitchy enough to brag out loud.... i ignore it as best as i can and try to keep focused on my own goals and customers. I'm a new dancer but so far this has worked wonders for me.
And no one in here cannot tell me that they don't get jealous from time to time. If you say that, you are BSing and need to get off the OP's back. Atleast the OP is ranting online and not cursing the girl out. If you need to let out your fustration...i think this should be a good outlet to do it
thats my 2 cents...i'm done lol :-X
veronicachick
08-28-2008, 11:22 AM
I figured I'd put in my 2 cents since I dance when I dont really "need to"
I'm a full time student at a university... I have a scholarship and fafsa to pay my tuition... so I don't really worry about that. But my parents help me out alot... I usually just have to pay for my cell phone bill... gas in my car... and food. My dad pretty much covers everything else like my rent... car payments... car insurance. And still I don't feel as if I am "greedy" for dancing.
Before I started dancing I was working a little part time job and barely made enough money to buy my groceries and pay for my gas... forget about buying a nice outfit from time to time. Not to mention, because I had class during the day I would work from 4-close... and weekends... which alot of times left me little time to do my hw and I was making just enough to pay for the little bullshit I was responsible for.
So now I am dancing on the weekends and make wayyyyy more than I ever did at that little day job... which gives me the freedom to buy my groceries, pay for my gas, buy new things from time to time, and on top of that I still have leftover to put in my savings account. I don't see anything wrong with that. Dancing gives me the flexible schedule that I need to be a full time student... and I am always so GRATEFUL that I have an incredible dad who is willing to help me out until I am set.
moll_flanders
08-28-2008, 11:57 AM
I can kinda understand why a hardworking dancer would resent this amateur at first meeting. Considering that her parents pay for everything she needs, it seems that it should be easy for her to get shopping money from them as well. The only reason she might dance instead is because she views dancing as a better alternative to earning this money than simply picking up the phone and telling Daddy that she wants $1,000 for a new handbag. It does seem from Keira's description that she is one of those girls who has seen strippers on TV and thinks that taking her clothes off will be an easy, glamorous way of getting the things she wants and being cool and rebellious in the process.
If that's so, she'll quickly find out that she's wrong anyway. Dancing is gonna be as rough for her as it is for the most broke, debt-ridden dancer. It won't be a walk in the park and if she is willing to stick it out for "shopping money," she deserves it!
On the other hand, there may be a lot more than meets the eye. There are a lot of reasons why a girl might not want to live entirely off parents who can support her lifestyle. Maybe her parents are even the type who won't pay for non-necessities and expect her to earn the money herself. Or maybe she just chooses to be independent for her own reasons. Very hard to say without actually meeting and interviewing her.
If she does stick it out and her parents are willing to give her money, then I have to give props to her. Living in L.A., I've known rich girls - and even not-rich girls whose parents struggle a bit - who are on the phone to their parents every week. Just went on a shopping spree at the Grove, just racked up a bunch of sessions with a personal trainer, want to go out of town for the weekend and need some money for a hotel and a rental car... if this girl has the choice of bugging her parents for these luxuries and instead earns them herself, then she's actually more responsible than her peers, in my opinion.
Sophia_Starina
08-28-2008, 12:13 PM
I can understand why you are frustrated. But strippers can come from all walks of life. You can't really screen girls based on whether they REALLY need the money. An heiress can walk into a club and work if she wants to.... if she's hot enough no one is going to stop her. So yeah, while it's upsetting that someone who doesn't NEED the money as badly can come in and earn it... possibly leaving you worse off for the night... there is nothing that can be done about it.
:hug:kiera:hug:
Andygirl
08-28-2008, 01:18 PM
You know what? I actually LIKE dancing. That's why I started doing it. The money was secondary. It was a thrill for me, and I couldn't get enough. Once I really got going the money started rolling in and I liked that too. Dancing was my perfect job! Sometimes young people do things just because it is fun and exciting. And there's nothing wrong with that!
Havana
08-28-2008, 01:22 PM
You know what? I actually LIKE dancing. That's why I started doing it. The money was secondary. It was a thrill for me, and I couldn't get enough. Once I really got going the money started rolling in and I liked that too. Dancing was my perfect job! Sometimes young people do things just because it is fun and exciting. And there's nothing wrong with that!
kudos.
katie941
08-28-2008, 03:49 PM
i dont need to dance.
i love my job.
shasta
08-28-2008, 04:36 PM
^^Im sorry but seriously what gives you girls the right to decide who's reasons for dancing are good and whose aren't?! . It pisses me the fuck off when customers tell me that i shouldn't be dancing b/c I don't have kids and as far as i'm concerned this is the same attitude. It does NOT make her greedy that she is dancing for shopping money, it makes her fucking smart and YOU SOUND STUPID for judging her. Gaawd "it's noooot fair". I think she's pretty awesome for working when she doesn't have to. Maybe you are just jealous and resentful that monetarily her life is easier than yours but at the end of the day she has just as much right as you do to be a dancer.
I agree with mean girl, might be a first.
Darcy Foxx
08-28-2008, 05:30 PM
I can kinda understand why a hardworking dancer would resent this amateur at first meeting. Considering that her parents pay for everything she needs, it seems that it should be easy for her to get shopping money from them as well.
when did this young girl ever say that her parents pay for EVERYTHING she needs? she simply said her parents pay her tuition. my parents pay my tuition, but they sure as hell don't pay my rent and electricity and phone bills, or put gas in my car or food in my fridge every week.
the OP has just jumped to conclusions that this girl is a spoiled rich kid who gets everything she wants from daddy just because her parents pay for her schooling, and that is an unfair assessment to make.
msincredible01
08-28-2008, 05:31 PM
Thats the kind of thinking that fuels "stripper stereotypes." By discriminating against her in this way you're implying that only women in desperate need of money could dance. Don't judge. There's absolutely no need for us to judge eachother especially in this business...we get enough of that from the half-wits that pay our bills (tuition bill or Nordstroms bill) it doesn't matter. Leave the judging to the ignorant.
Elusive21
08-28-2008, 05:42 PM
There's also the possibility that the amateur girl was lying about her reasons for wanting to dance. Maybe she does need the money for bills and tuition and just didn't want to admit it, preferring to say that she'd rather be a stripper for fun and shopping money.
Cherry Valence
08-28-2008, 05:42 PM
You've really outdone yourself this time. How rude of you to judge that girl. She has the right to strip as much as someone who's in the poor house. It was your choice to pay for your fancy school yourself and make sacrifices; don't be surprised when an expensive ass fancy school is full of people that are richer than you. It doesn't mean they have it easier. You might learn this later, but having unlimited cash and being spoiled doesn't make you happy. She's just doing the amateur night, anyway. It's not like that money would have gone to you and she took it out of your hands.
keira0304
08-28-2008, 05:46 PM
lol @ I've "outdone" myself.
Elusive21
08-28-2008, 05:49 PM
Also, Keira is sounds like the town you're living in is very unhealthy for you. Just consider this:
This is the town where your ex-boyfriend lives or will live after he gets out of prison and will surely have an easy time tracking you down if you choose to stay
This town's university is incredibly expensive
The people in this town are snooty
The club that you work at is very high contact
You don't have a support system of family and friends (unless your roomate counts?)
kitana
08-28-2008, 05:57 PM
Also, Keira is sounds like the town you're living in is very unhealthy for you. Just consider this:
This is the town where your ex-boyfriend lives or will live after he gets out of prison and will surely have an easy time tracking you down if you choose to stay
This town's university is incredibly expensive
The people in this town are snooty
The club that you work at is very high contact
You don't have a support system of family and friends (unless your roomate counts?)
Hun, don't waste your breath. She's either A, too ignorant to listen, or B doesn't give a fuck and will do whatever she wants anyway, or C is posting this crap just to get attention (good or bad) cause of some desire.
Corgan
08-28-2008, 06:03 PM
ughhh this is like that other thread, that girls shouldn't make more money taht have no kids bc mothers with kids dancing aren't making shit.
keira, it IS your attitude that makes your earnings low. counseling would be a wonderful investment for you.
Cherry Valence
08-28-2008, 06:12 PM
Counseling doesn't fix stupid.
kitana
08-28-2008, 06:21 PM
Counseling doesn't fix stupid.
Cherry, you owe me a new laptop keyboard!;D
I seriously snorted Coke Zero through my nose all over the place!
britt244
08-28-2008, 06:23 PM
^ i burst out laughing.