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Zia_Abq
09-07-2008, 01:54 PM
That is not going to work.. If she's ready to be VP and become president at the drop of a hat, then should should be ready to do interviews.
Abso-fucking-lutely!
Zia_Abq
09-07-2008, 01:56 PM
I believe she has an interview scheduled with ABC later this week.
Really? Well that is interesting considering what the McCain campaign manager said. Change of mind maybe? Guess we will have to wait and see.
bem401
09-07-2008, 01:57 PM
Or maybe they'd ask her to explain the numerous things that have come up in the past week about her. That shouldn't be so hard to do and she doesn't need to prepare to speak the truth, does she?
I'm sure the interviewer will ask her about those things and well he should. Trying to make her look bad by asking her trivial questions about things she had little reason to be concerned with up until a week ago would not be right though.
Or maybe they'd ask her to explain the numerous things that have come up in the past week about her. That shouldn't be so hard to do and she doesn't need to prepare to speak the truth, does she? I believe any substantive questions related to her political thoughts and positions are fair game. Or her past political associations if those associations are meaningful to us voters. I hope they don't spend the entire interview trying to bully her into admitting that her infant son is really her grandson. Or that she has been a horrible mother or shouldn't be aspiring to the Vice-Presidency but instead should be home taking care of her family like a good little wife and mother (as suggested by Quinn).
This could be a defining moment establishing whether they are objective journalists or Obama hacks.
FBR
Really? Well that is interesting considering what the McCain campaign manager said. Change of mind maybe? Guess we will have to wait and see.
Zia I believe I heard it on the radio today. I'll stand corrected if I misspoke about the scheduled interview. But I think we are all in agreement the sooner the better.
FBR
sapphiregirl
09-07-2008, 02:19 PM
So will she give an interview?
Apparently the answer is yes but there is a catch. A big catch. It won't be on Meet the Press. It won't be on Face the Nation either. Instead it will be given to Republican run and pure propaganda cable channel, FoxNews. So much for answering any hardball questions.
Here's a quote from the McCain campaign manager:
"She'll agree to an interview when we think it's time and when she feels comfortable doing it" Davis said on "Fox News Sunday"
When she feels comfortable.....LMAO
Oh my God....we are in trouble if she is elected with McCain
I read about the interview on Yahoo. I did not hear of it on the radio. My bad.
It's ABC not Fox News.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080907/pl_politico/13227
FBR
sapphiregirl
09-07-2008, 02:31 PM
I read about the interview on Yahoo. I did not hear of it on the radio. My bad.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080907/pl_politico/13227
FBR
Cool...It's about time....but I gess the GOP needed 10+ days to teach her what to say. After all she was never interested in the war in Iraq. Heck, I doubt she has ever been interested in anything outside of Alaska.
Cool...It's about time....but I guess the GOP needed 10+ days to teach her what to say. After all she was never interested in the war in Iraq. Heck, I doubt she has ever been interested in anything outside of Alaska.
Well, governing Alaska has rightfully been her preoccupation for the last couple of years. I mean, between that and her family she probably hasn't had time to do much else. Certainly it is unlikely she has had time to hang out on MB's to absorb our wisdom.
As far as being coached by her team, I don't see that as a negative. Please don't tell me you believe Barry and Joe aren't coached 24/7. I believe Sarah can handle the straight on political questions just fine. I Imagine most of the coaching will be on how to deflect the personal attacks that (unfortunately) will most likely be a significant part of the interview.
FBR
sapphiregirl
09-07-2008, 02:54 PM
Well, governing Alaska has rightfully been her preoccupation for the last couple of years. I mean, between that and her family she probably hasn't had time to do much else. Certainly it is unlikely she has had time to hang out on MB's to absorb our wisdom.
As far as being coached by her team, I don't see that as a negative. Please don't tell me you believe Barry and Joe aren't coached 24/7. I believe Sarah can handle the straight on political questions just fine. I Imagine most of the coaching will be on how to deflect the personal attacks that (unfortunately) will most likely be a significant part of the interview.
FBR
Charles Gibson does not seem like the type of interviewer who would attack Palin in the first place. Obama is willing to do long interviews with Fox/O'crazy Factor straight out of the convention.
Charles Gibson does not seem like the type of interviewer who would attack Palin in the first place. Obama is willing to do long interviews with Fox/O'crazy Factor straight out of the convention.
I hope you are right.
BTW, do you have a link to the O'Rielly / Obama interview you can share? I believe it was the other night and if so I missed it.
Thanks,
FBR
eagle2
09-07-2008, 03:05 PM
FBR,
It's a 3 or 4 part interview. The rest of it will be shown Monday and Tuesday and maybe Wednesday.
sapphiregirl
09-07-2008, 03:06 PM
I hope you are right.
BTW, do you have a link to the O'Rielly / Obama interview you can share? I believe it was the other night and if so I missed it.
Thanks,
FBR
Here is the first part.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luA0AMP51Gc
Jay Zeno
09-07-2008, 03:06 PM
She's been governor of a state of 700,000. I would expect her to want to get up to speed on national/international issues. I would've afforded then-Gov. Clinton the same if he had been a surprise pick for VP out of governing Arkansas. Sen. Obama has been living and breathing national/international affairs for the same period of time. I would expect him to be more ready.
Y'know, really now, if we're going to debate how quickly these two are ready to debate as part of Presidential/Vice Presidential qualifications, why don't we just put them on a basketball court for some real relevance. They both played basketball in high school. Let's see some half-court one-on for Presidential glory. (I'm suggesting that with a smile, really.)
DB Cooper
09-07-2008, 03:19 PM
After all she was never interested in the war in Iraq. Heck, I doubt she has ever been interested in anything outside of Alaska.
I think her visit to Iraq in July of 2007 shows she has some interest in the war. Having her son deploying there next week might also mean she has some interest in Iraq. And as covernor of Alaska I would hope the main focus of her attention would be on Alaska. That's kinda what a governor is supposed to do.
Here is the first part.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luA0AMP51Gc
Very interesting. Thanks for the link sapphiregirl :)
FBR
sapphiregirl
09-07-2008, 06:17 PM
Well, since Sarah Palin hasn't done any interviews/debates.
This debate is pretty good between a McCain spokesperson and Obama spokesperson. I have to say, I think Republicans are in trouble...all the way down to how fast they talk to look right.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nenY2k2tuy8
Melonie
09-07-2008, 06:33 PM
Obama is willing to do long interviews with Fox/O'crazy Factor straight out of the convention.
And Palin has offered to do an interview with Oprah Winfrey. Unfortunately, the O has refused.
(snip)"BIG DILEMMA: OPRAH BALKS AT HOSTING SARAH PALIN; STAFF DIVIDED
Fri Sep 05 2008 08:55:46 ET
Oprah Winfrey may have introduced Democrat Barack Obama to the women of America -- but the talkshow queen is not rushing to embrace the first woman on a Republican presidential ticket!
Oprah's staff is sharply divided on the merits of booking Sarah Palin, sources tell the DRUDGE REPORT.
"Half of her staff really wants Sarah Palin on," an insider explains. "Oprah's website is getting tons of requests to put her on, but Oprah and a couple of her top people are adamantly against it because of Obama."
One executive close to Winfrey is warning any Palin ban could ignite a dramatic backlash!
It is not clear if Oprah has softened her position after watching Palin's historic convention speech.
Last year, Winfrey blocked an appearance by Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, timed to a promotional tour of his autobiography.
Oprah and executive producer Sheri Salata, who has contributed thousands of dollars to Obama's campaign, refused requests for comment."(snip)
from original Drudge posting which the O has attempted to refute
sapphiregirl
09-07-2008, 07:07 PM
And Palin has offered to do an interview with Oprah Winfrey. Unfortunately, the O has refused.
(snip)"BIG DILEMMA: OPRAH BALKS AT HOSTING SARAH PALIN; STAFF DIVIDED
Fri Sep 05 2008 08:55:46 ET
Oprah Winfrey may have introduced Democrat Barack Obama to the women of America -- but the talkshow queen is not rushing to embrace the first woman on a Republican presidential ticket!
Oprah's staff is sharply divided on the merits of booking Sarah Palin, sources tell the DRUDGE REPORT.
"Half of her staff really wants Sarah Palin on," an insider explains. "Oprah's website is getting tons of requests to put her on, but Oprah and a couple of her top people are adamantly against it because of Obama."
One executive close to Winfrey is warning any Palin ban could ignite a dramatic backlash!
It is not clear if Oprah has softened her position after watching Palin's historic convention speech.
Last year, Winfrey blocked an appearance by Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, timed to a promotional tour of his autobiography.
Oprah and executive producer Sheri Salata, who has contributed thousands of dollars to Obama's campaign, refused requests for comment."(snip)
from original Drudge posting which the O has attempted to refute
That is not correct. Oprah personally supports Obama as her pick for President but she will not use her show to promote either candidate.
ET sets the record straight on a new rumor surrounding VP hopeful Sarah Palin appearing on "The Oprah Winfrey Show."
Though Oprah says having Sarah on would be "fantastic," published reports that say she has booked an interview are "categorically untrue."
"There has been absolutely no discussion about having Sarah Palin on my show," she tells ET. "At the beginning of this presidential campaign when I decided that I was going to take my first public stance in support of a candidate, I made the decision not to use my show as a platform for any of the candidates. I agree that Sarah Palin would be a fantastic interview, and I would love to have her on after the campaign is over."
sapphiregirl
09-07-2008, 07:10 PM
And Palin has offered to do an interview with Oprah Winfrey. Unfortunately, the O has refused.
(snip)"BIG DILEMMA: OPRAH BALKS AT HOSTING SARAH PALIN; STAFF DIVIDED
Fri Sep 05 2008 08:55:46 ET
Oprah Winfrey may have introduced Democrat Barack Obama to the women of America -- but the talkshow queen is not rushing to embrace the first woman on a Republican presidential ticket!
Oprah's staff is sharply divided on the merits of booking Sarah Palin, sources tell the DRUDGE REPORT.
"Half of her staff really wants Sarah Palin on," an insider explains. "Oprah's website is getting tons of requests to put her on, but Oprah and a couple of her top people are adamantly against it because of Obama."
One executive close to Winfrey is warning any Palin ban could ignite a dramatic backlash!
It is not clear if Oprah has softened her position after watching Palin's historic convention speech.
Last year, Winfrey blocked an appearance by Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, timed to a promotional tour of his autobiography.
Oprah and executive producer Sheri Salata, who has contributed thousands of dollars to Obama's campaign, refused requests for comment."(snip)
from original Drudge posting which the O has attempted to refute
That is not true...
ET sets the record straight on a new rumor surrounding VP hopeful Sarah Palin appearing on "The Oprah Winfrey Show."
Though Oprah says having Sarah on would be "fantastic," published reports that say she has booked an interview are "categorically untrue."
"There has been absolutely no discussion about having Sarah Palin on my show," she tells ET. "At the beginning of this presidential campaign when I decided that I was going to take my first public stance in support of a candidate, I made the decision not to use my show as a platform for any of the candidates. I agree that Sarah Palin would be a fantastic interview, and I would love to have her on after the campaign is over."
Melonie
09-07-2008, 07:42 PM
^^^ yes that was Oprah's attempt to refute the allegation, all right. However I don't read anything in that statement that actually disproves Drudge's claims / implications that A. Oprah put the stop on a Palin interview for partisan political reasons, or B. that her belated decision not to use her show as a platform for any of the candidates came long after she had ALREADY used her show as a platform to advance Barack Obama, or C. that this is not the first time that Oprah has denied air time to conservatives despite objective newsworthiness !
Zia_Abq
09-07-2008, 08:40 PM
oh great. This is I believe the 4th time just recently that you've posted shit that simply wasn't true. Damn Mel, I mean wtf? I'm sure you know the ending of the cry wolf fable. Not good.
'nuff said :(
Melonie
09-07-2008, 08:52 PM
^^^ I believe that you are confusing a public denial with actual evidence that the denial is in fact true. There IS a difference ... although that difference isn't frequently reported in mainstream media (when the denial is being made by a liberal at least). Big exception this week though i.e. Detroit mayor and Barack Obama buddy Kwame Kilpatrick who officially denied his way right into jail.
Jay Zeno
09-07-2008, 09:23 PM
And how does one prove a negative?
I say that a Supreme Court Justice called a hooker off of Craigslist last night**. They can deny it all they want. But that's not evidence that the denial is true.
Good grief. Under that standard, ANYONE can say ANYTHING about ANYBODY... and it's credible?
**I'M NOT REALLY SAYING THAT.
sapphiregirl
09-08-2008, 02:47 AM
Well, Biden wants to debate her and I think Obama and Biden have acted like class acts with this whole Sarah Palin thing.
Even Biden admits he has no clue where Sarah stands on issues and and she needs to step up.
I'm sooooooooo looking forward to Biden debating her.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buZkByhWEdE
Melonie
09-08-2008, 03:36 AM
And how does one prove a negative?
I say that a Supreme Court Justice called a hooker off of Craigslist last night**. They can deny it all they want. But that's not evidence that the denial is true.
well in Kwame Kilpatrick's case it was possible for the DA to pursue actual facts to the point of proving his initial denial of criminal wrongdoing was NOT true. In your hypothetical Supreme Court Justice case it is also possible to prove any denial WAS true via establishing a factual alibi. In John McCain's case it was possible to have all charges against him dropped in relation to the Keating 5.
The difference of course is that actual investigation of charges and denials is far more meaningful than blind acceptance of the denial alone. But where American media is concerned, at the very least there seems to be a different standard used in regard to charges against liberals and their denials, versus charges against conservatives and their denials. That double standard also appears to carry through to the results of actual investigations i.e. Tom DeLay. So far at least, American media has been content to accept denials from Barack Obama and Joe Biden in regard to a host of issues, with no actual investigations taking place. At the same time, they are investigating the
[email protected]#t out of Sarah Palin.
G-Real
09-08-2008, 05:08 AM
well in Kwame Kilpatrick's case it was possible for the DA to pursue actual facts to the point of proving his initial denial of criminal wrongdoing was NOT true. In your hypothetical Supreme Court Justice case it is also possible to prove any denial WAS true via establishing a factual alibi. In John McCain's case it was possible to have all charges against him dropped in relation to the Keating 5.
The difference of course is that actual investigation of charges and denials is far more meaningful than blind acceptance of the denial alone. But where American media is concerned, at the very least there seems to be a different standard used in regard to charges against liberals and their denials, versus charges against conservatives and their denials. That double standard also appears to carry through to the results of actual investigations i.e. Tom DeLay. So far at least, American media has been content to accept denials from Barack Obama and Joe Biden in regard to a host of issues, with no actual investigations taking place. At the same time, they are investigating the
[email protected]#t out of Sarah Palin.
Um, what jay was referring to is innocent people being played with by what Reublicans called a False-Negative.
Sorta like Bush did to McCain in 2000, ie "Would you vote for McCain if you knew he had a black baby out of wedlock?"
bem401
09-08-2008, 06:13 AM
That is not correct. Oprah personally supports Obama as her pick for President but she will not use her show to promote either candidate.
ET sets the record straight on a new rumor surrounding VP hopeful Sarah Palin appearing on "The Oprah Winfrey Show."
Though Oprah says having Sarah on would be "fantastic," published reports that say she has booked an interview are "categorically untrue."
"There has been absolutely no discussion about having Sarah Palin on my show," she tells ET. "At the beginning of this presidential campaign when I decided that I was going to take my first public stance in support of a candidate, I made the decision not to use my show as a platform for any of the candidates. I agree that Sarah Palin would be a fantastic interview, and I would love to have her on after the campaign is over."
Oprah should be allowed to have anyone on her show she wants. Its her show. The reason she won't use her show to promote either candidate is because she can't. You have to provide equal access to all viable candidates, including Barr and Nader and their veeps ( whoever they might be ).
As far as Palin debating is concerned, I am looking forward to it. I think she will more than hold her own against Biden. If they debate on the merits of conservative vs. liberal ideology, she'll win(IMO) . And if Biden attacks her as being another Bush, goes after her family, or tries to play trivia games with her about international relations, he'll be perceived as bullying a woman, and she wins. Not by the libs out there, but by the swing voters, who are really the target audience at this point.
Jay Zeno
09-08-2008, 09:10 AM
"Palin was not considered for the Oprah show!"
"Oprah says it wasn't brought up."
Who's right? Well.... who brought it up out of thin air?
Suicide bombers. Bin Laden still not found. Russia reentering the Cold War. 9% of people being behind on mortgages or getting foreclosed on. Government takes over the housing industry. Outsourcing. High unemployment. Fuel costs driving up prices everywhere.
Focus, focus.
Miss_Luscious
09-08-2008, 09:32 AM
^^^ Exactly! There are more important things to focus on right now. We need to know the candidates stances on these issues and how they plan on fixing them. That's what will help us make informed decisions. Oprah's show is not really on my mind right now.
From what I've seen, read and heard from Obama, I feel that him and Biden will best solve these problems (or at least begin to) while McCain and Palin will not. However, there are other issues such as gay rights and abortion which have me lean to the left as well. I wish Republicans would go back to being the fiscally conservative party and leave social conservatism out of it. With Palin on the ticket, social conservatism rules while earmarks and debt rise. She's not exactly fiscally conservative in my book.
Zia_Abq
09-08-2008, 10:38 AM
Yup, it's a distraction method being used because their side is soooooo weak on the issues. They have all but admitted it when their campaign has made a public statement that they want this election to be about "personality" and not the issues.
Seriously folks. What does that say about their ability to deal with the issues is they won't even address most of them? Considering that why the hell would anyone even considering castig a vote for them? That kind of ignorance is simply baffling.
Zia_Abq
09-08-2008, 05:34 PM
Oh boy. The shit just keeps rolling down hill about this woman. Here is the latest. I’m sure it will thrill her supporters though but for the rest of us, eh, not so much.
“Gov. Sarah Palin's church is promoting a conference that promises to convert gays into heterosexuals through the power of prayer.”
So why does this matter as far as issues go? Well it falls under the civil and equal rights area because she supports a federal ban on gay marriage and she wants to deny many other equal rights related things to homosexuals as well.
sapphiregirl
09-08-2008, 07:40 PM
Oh boy. The shit just keeps rolling down hill about this woman. Here is the latest. I’m sure it will thrill her supporters though but for the rest of us, eh, not so much.
“Gov. Sarah Palin's church is promoting a conference that promises to convert gays into heterosexuals through the power of prayer.”
http://news.aol.com/elections/article/palins-church-promotes-gay-conversion/165471
So why does this matter as far as issues go? Well it falls under the civil and equal rights area because she supports a federal ban on gay marriage and she wants to deny many other equal rights related things to homosexuals as well.
The Republican Party is becoming such a pathetic joke. It's all about God, Guns and Gays. I swear they are not happy unless they can discriminate, promote hate, put the fear of war in people or go to war.
I think McCain has proved he has to kiss the asses of the Right Wing Bigots in win an election.....loser.
Well......by this time next week, you can be sure of one thing.....every environmentalist, gay, lesbian or family of will make sure they are registered to vote.
I can't wait to hear how the Human Rights Campaign is going to approach this wackjob.
doc-catfish
09-08-2008, 07:46 PM
http://img.perezhilton.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/jeneau__oPt.jpg
Zia_Abq
09-08-2008, 07:54 PM
It just continues to get worse too. This one may be of particular interest to our fellow Jewish Stripperweb members. Especially those who vote republican.
“Palin’s pastor, Larry Kroon, introduced Brickner on Aug. 17, according to a transcript of the sermon on the church’s website.”
“Brickner’s mission has drawn wide criticism from the organized Jewish community, and the Anti-Defamation League accused them in a report of “targeting Jews for conversion with subterfuge and deception.”
Brickner also described terrorist attacks on Israelis as God's "judgment of unbelief" of Jews who haven't embraced Christianity.”
"Judgment is very real and we see it played out on the pages of the newspapers and on the television. It's very real. When [Brickner's son] was in Jerusalem he was there to witness some of that judgment, some of that conflict, when a Palestinian from East Jerusalem took a bulldozer and went plowing through a score of cars, killing numbers of people. Judgment — you can't miss it."
Palin was in church that day
sapphiregirl
09-08-2008, 07:57 PM
It just continues to get worse too. This one may be of particular interest to our fellow Jewish Stripperweb members. Especially those who vote republican.
“Palin’s pastor, Larry Kroon, introduced Brickner on Aug. 17, according to a transcript of the sermon on the church’s website.”
“Brickner’s mission has drawn wide criticism from the organized Jewish community, and the Anti-Defamation League accused them in a report of “targeting Jews for conversion with subterfuge and deception.”
Brickner also described terrorist attacks on Israelis as God's "judgment of unbelief" of Jews who haven't embraced Christianity.”
"Judgment is very real and we see it played out on the pages of the newspapers and on the television. It's very real. When [Brickner's son] was in Jerusalem he was there to witness some of that judgment, some of that conflict, when a Palestinian from East Jerusalem took a bulldozer and went plowing through a score of cars, killing numbers of people. Judgment — you can't miss it."
Palin was in church that day
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13098.html
LOL....oh the irony....
She has not even interviewed or done a debate yet. I hope she gets chewed up....I'm sure her cocky mouth will get her even more.
sapphiregirl
09-08-2008, 08:38 PM
Oh boy. The shit just keeps rolling down hill about this woman. Here is the latest. I’m sure it will thrill her supporters though but for the rest of us, eh, not so much.
“Gov. Sarah Palin's church is promoting a conference that promises to convert gays into heterosexuals through the power of prayer.”
http://news.aol.com/elections/article/palins-church-promotes-gay-conversion/165471
So why does this matter as far as issues go? Well it falls under the civil and equal rights area because she supports a federal ban on gay marriage and she wants to deny many other equal rights related things to homosexuals as well.
One other thing....McCain thought he was going to get the die hard Hillary Clinton supporters with Sarah Palin.
Well, the die hard Hillary Clinton supporters are HUGE on gay/lesbian rights.....I guess he made an oops.
Pardon me if this has been posted earlier. Quinn has a change of heart LOL Click on the video
http://newsbusters.org/media-topics/cable-television/fnc/oreilly-factor
FBR
sapphiregirl
09-08-2008, 10:50 PM
Pardon me if this has been posted earlier. Quinn has a change of heart LOL Click on the video
http://newsbusters.org/media-topics/cable-television/fnc/oreilly-factor
FBR
Quick change of heart?
watch this.........
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=184086&title=Sarah-Palin-Gender-Card
DB Cooper
09-09-2008, 07:21 AM
If we are going to assume that Gov Palin agrees with and accepts every idea and belief postulated by her church and pastor should we not also assume that Sen Obama agrees with and accepts every idea and belief postulated by his church and pastor? Or maybe we can give them both the benefit of the doubt and let them state their own beliefs?
Yekhefah
09-09-2008, 08:25 AM
^^^ Zing! For the win!
bem401
09-09-2008, 08:37 AM
If we are going to assume that Gov Palin agrees with and accepts every idea and belief postulated by her church and pastor should we not also assume that Sen Obama agrees with and accepts every idea and belief postulated by his church and pastor? Or maybe we can give them both the benefit of the doubt and let them state their own beliefs?
Playing by the same rules??? They'll never go for it.
Zia_Abq
09-09-2008, 08:48 AM
Did republicans give Obama the benefit of the doubt? Nope! Not even the slightest. It can be seen all over these boards. And again with the hypocritical behavior by conservatives since now they want that given to Palin.
But yes, benefit of the doubt the better approach. But remember Palin has actually espoused anti gay beliefs and taken those beliefs into her politics as well. As far as her view of Israel, I just hope that doesn't go the same way.
Miss_Luscious
09-09-2008, 09:00 AM
I agree that it should not matter for either. However, it mattered for Obama so it has to matter for Palin. Plus she actually said the Iraq war was God's work and prayed for a pipeline while Obama has never said any of the things that Rev Wright said so there is a difference.
Zia_Abq
09-09-2008, 09:10 AM
Obama has never said any of the things that Rev Wright said so there is a difference.
EXACTLY :thanx:
sapphiregirl
09-09-2008, 12:01 PM
If we are going to assume that Gov Palin agrees with and accepts every idea and belief postulated by her church and pastor should we not also assume that Sen Obama agrees with and accepts every idea and belief postulated by his church and pastor? Or maybe we can give them both the benefit of the doubt and let them state their own beliefs?
Ummmm....I've only listened to what Palin has PREACHED in church and what the Human Rights Campaign says about her proven record in politics on civil rights......and its not my fault she was nominated VP almost a week ago and still cannot answer questions or debate.
She sure can fly around and sign autographs.
As for the press......I'm smart enough to know they like dirt.....I also know they put Obama through hell and he proved himself. Sarah Palin has what 56 days to the election? What is she going to do when the big bad boys of Russia or Iran are speaking of her? sign autographs?
Eric Stoner
09-09-2008, 12:18 PM
Did republicans give Obama the benefit of the doubt? Nope! Not even the slightest. It can be seen all over these boards. And again with the hypocritical behavior by conservatives since now they want that given to Palin.
But yes, benefit of the doubt the better approach. But remember Palin has actually espoused anti gay beliefs and taken those beliefs into her politics as well. As far as her view of Israel, I just hope that doesn't go the same way.
It's actually better than that. Obama LEFT his church, formerly headed by Reverend Wright. He publicly disassociated himself, not once, but twice from the worst of Wright's screeds.
sapphiregirl
09-09-2008, 12:21 PM
It's actually better than that. Obama LEFT his church, formerly headed by Reverend Wright. He publicly disassociated himself, not once, but twice from the worst of Wright's screeds.
Does Obama joke about suicide bombers?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kp9qKSnRFCw&feature=related
Eric Stoner
09-09-2008, 12:25 PM
Does Obama joke about suicide bombers?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kp9qKSnRFCw&feature=related
Why are you addressing this to me ?
sapphiregirl
09-09-2008, 01:52 PM
Why are you addressing this to me ?
Because I wanted your opinion....I'm not trying to bait you into an argument.
I'd also like JayZenos opinion or even Jester's