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kitana
09-04-2008, 09:53 AM
that is not qouted for truth because miss JANELLE RENEE CHAMBERS did not accidentally get pregnant. as i said, yall read what yall wanna read.

Who the FUCK said YOU?!?!?!?!

I was specifically thinking of about 14 different girls I have worked with, geesh.

loveandluxury
09-04-2008, 09:55 AM
i guess people read what they wanna read. when there is sex between two consenting adults and no prevelant medical reason (tubal pregnancy or something of that nature) why a mother can't have a child, then it's unecessary. i didn't say women who are raped shouldn't have that option. or i'm not saying anyone should not have that option.


Okay, so there is a woman who lives on the streets, a drug addict and little to no hope for the future.. She gets pregnant having consentual sex with another man of the same caliber. There is no "medical" reason for them not to have a baby.. so they should definetely have the baby, eh? Sure, they could give the baby up for adoption but I'm pretty sure given this fictitious couple's situation they wouldn't be able to provide proper prenatal care for the child. If you're not in a situation to raise the child properly in a loving environment and have proper prenatal care then what's wrong with having an abortion?

Also, I think you completely missed the part where this guy is a complete asshole and POKED HOLES IN THE CONDOM WITHOUT THE OP'S KNOWLEDGE..... Why in the fuck should she have to commit to 9 months of pregnancy and all the other expenses and tolls that come with having a child, not to mention one that was born out of a shitty situation with a psychopathic father? She could give the baby up for adoption, but that would mean 9 months of pregnancy.. dancing seems to be her only means of support. You can't just take a week off dancing because of being pregnant like you can a sprained ankle.

If you came up pregnant right now and the father disappeared or was a complete crazy asshole, would you have the baby? I'm pretty sure it's not safe to work in a warehouse while you're pregnant and you damn sure can't dance.. Based on all your recent posts, you're not in the best financial situation either. By all means, bring another child into this world that you can't afford and we all have to pay for because you wouldn't get an abortion.

I personally don't want another child right now, I am pro choice, but my husband asked me a few days ago if I were pregnant right now if I would want to keep it. I said yes, because we own a house, are financially stable and have the means to do so.. if I wasn't in a positive situation like I am I would have said no.

kitana
09-04-2008, 09:56 AM
how have i committed welfare fraud? i said i reported all the income.

You said you reported income to WIC, totally different than welfare/medical card/ food stamp office (at least in my home state and in Indiana; in this area WIC is at the Health Dept).

You didn't mention once in that post that your also reported income to the welfare office. I am just saying, not accusing.

Also, you are against abusers; yet your cousin, your daughter, you, your siblings, and your mother all have SOME form of state aid? Hmmm.....

happygiggles
09-04-2008, 09:56 AM
Okay, so there is a woman who lives on the streets, a drug addict and little to no hope for the future.. She gets pregnant having consentual sex with another man of the same caliber. There is no "medical" reason for them not to have a baby.. so they should definetely have the baby, eh? Sure, they could give the baby up for adoption but I'm pretty sure given this fictitious couple's situation they wouldn't be able to provide proper prenatal care for the child. If you're not in a situation to raise the child properly in a loving environment and have proper prenatal care then what's wrong with having an abortion?

Also, I think you completely missed the part where this guy is a complete asshole and POKED HOLES IN THE CONDOM WITHOUT THE OP'S KNOWLEDGE..... Why in the fuck should she have to commit to 9 months of pregnancy and all the other expenses and tolls that come with having a child, not to mention one that was born out of a shitty situation with a psychopathic father? She could give the baby up for adoption, but that would mean 9 months of pregnancy.. dancing seems to be her only means of support. You can't just take a week off dancing because of being pregnant like you can a sprained ankle.

If you came up pregnant right now and the father disappeared or was a complete crazy asshole, would you have the baby? I'm pretty sure it's not safe to work in a warehouse while you're pregnant and you damn sure can't dance.. Based on all your recent posts, you're not in the best financial situation either. By all means, bring another child into this world that you can't afford and we all have to pay for because you wouldn't get an abortion.

I personally don't want another child right now, I am pro choice, but my husband asked me a few days ago if I were pregnant right now if I would want to keep it. I said yes, because we own a house, are financially stable and have the means to do so.. if I wasn't in a positive situation like I am I would have said no.


no, i didn't miss that part about what he did. and yeah that was so low down trifling shit. did i say she shouldn't have an abortion though?

happygiggles
09-04-2008, 09:59 AM
You said you reported income to WIC, totally different than welfare/medical card/ food stamp office (at least in my home state and in Indiana; in this area WIC is at the Health Dept).

You didn't mention once in that post that your also reported income to the welfare office. I am just saying, not accusing.

Also, you are against abusers; yet your cousin, your daughter, you, your siblings, and your mother all have SOME form of state aid? Hmmm.....

my mother and siblings have no form of state aid......and yes i reported my income to the welfare office. i only had to report MY income to them as i don't live with my mother anymore and I have found dancing to not be for me. not a good hustler by any means. so the money i make dancing is shit when i have to pay the club, a ride, and a sitter just to go. i come home with dollars. presently i am late on my rent. so i have no problem reporting my income to them

kitana
09-04-2008, 10:04 AM
it'll take about 3 years worth of his child support payments but every dime they have spent on heather will be paid for.

No, it won't.

Sorry kiddo, but it will not be paid back, at least not all of it. some sure, but ALL; no fucking way.

You act like no one in here has ever been through a similar situation before you have, so we are clueless. WRONG; I have personally; I know child support and state aid on both ends of it, and that is simply not how it works.

Cassandra39
09-04-2008, 04:09 PM
the sex was consentual. it's fucked up how this happened to her. it really is. and if she wants an abortion by all means get one, but she needs to pay for it.

She wasn't asking for a free abortion. Her post in Ladies Only wasn't a donation box for funding. She knows she needs to pay for it.

Cassandra39
09-04-2008, 04:17 PM
And since we're giving our honest opinions it pisses me off that my tax money is going to support people who weren't financially ready to have a child. People mooching off of tax money trying to get their stamps etc. Thats way more selfish than getting an abortion (free or not that is absolutely irrelivant) because they know that they do not have the means to bring a child into this world and raise it on their own.

gingerlee
09-04-2008, 05:17 PM
And since we're giving our honest opinions it pisses me off that my tax money is going to support people who weren't financially ready to have a child. People mooching off of tax money trying to get their stamps etc. Thats way more selfish than getting an abortion (free or not that is absolutely irrelivant) because they know that they do not have the means to bring a child into this world and raise it on their own.

QFT...

ahmeerah
09-04-2008, 06:15 PM
HG
I'm guessing that you're pretty young and haven't travelled outside of Tenessee much? If you have travelled a bit, maybe you haven't been around too many circles? If that's the case, I can see why you're saying what you're saying. But it's SO not that cut and dry or simple.

keira0304
09-04-2008, 06:44 PM
happygiggles... you are the perfect example of someone who should of gotten an abortion. You can't even afford a thermometer for your sick child, and you have ignorant views that you will raise your spawn on, so she'll grow up and just be another ignorant southern "pro-lifer".

Optimist
09-04-2008, 06:52 PM
who says i don't pay my taxes? you don't know me and what i do. i plan to file my taxes. my income right now is not worth mentioning. i start a warehouse job monday in which they will come directly from my check


I didn't say it was an easy decision to make. Hell, I considered it after I got my ass pregnant the second time but had a miscarriage. What I'm saying is, we make our choices in life and we must deal with them. You had the abortion and I don't know who paid for it but you made a way didn't you?


the government should help people. that's what they are there for. but look at all the people out here just abusing the system with their 30 dollar rent and 15 million children yet doing hair on the porch getting money. it should be there, but regulated better. and i know in tennessee it's getting much better cuz they're serving all the dads with child support orders to pay the state back. my mama lost her job of 12 years when the warehouse closed down and was only getting child support and unemployment, yet she made "too much money" to get assistance

It sounds like the pot calling the kettle black. You fantasize about how much easier these other peoples lives are and that they have some advantage over you. You kept the baby. Get over it! Just because you're stuck doesn't mean every other woman should be stuck. Can't get assistance? Suck it up and make it happen!

Live by the short-sighted, vindictive sword, die by it.

keira0304
09-04-2008, 07:09 PM
and also.... HG. Since you're not a stripper and you said yourself you are not cut out for the job.... what the hell are you doing on this board?? You should go find some single mothers support forum or something.

iambonbon05
09-04-2008, 07:23 PM
Whoa.

I used to be pro life so usually I can kind of understand someone's point of view if they don't think someone should get an abortion, but this makes no sense at all.

It's ok that you're on aid because it's temporary??? Well if someone gets pregnant it can be made into a permanent situation by the woman having a baby or it can be made temporary by her having an abortion. wtf.

You don't like to have to pay for other people, yet it's jolly good for you to accept tax money for others. Yikes.

Susan-Va
09-04-2008, 07:46 PM
and yes i bitch about my cousin because 5 years from now she will have 3 more kids in the system as to my one will be out in two months. it's not fair for people to not put any effort to getting out. does my cousin plan to get a job? hell no.

Wow. If that's not a good reason for free abortions I don't know what is.

Darcy Foxx
09-04-2008, 08:28 PM
Normal pregnancy with vaginal delivery, no complications, no neonatal complications: $6800-10,600
If you choose to not give your baby for adoption, it will cost at least $136,000 to raise that child to the age of 18.
Average abortion at 10 weeks: $468
This thread: PRICELESS

Sophia_Starina
09-04-2008, 08:37 PM
Wow.... http://www.clipartof.com/images/emoticons/xsmall2/1974_eating_popcorn.gif

veronicachick
09-04-2008, 08:52 PM
I just read all 7 pages... whew.
HG, maybe it's not safe to post your full name on a msg board, along with your daughter's name and your picture?

vivianbear
09-04-2008, 08:59 PM
happygiggles... you are the perfect example of someone who should of gotten an abortion. You can't even afford a thermometer for your sick child, and you have ignorant views that you will raise your spawn on, so she'll grow up and just be another ignorant southern "pro-lifer".

hhhmmm.... with all due respect, I'd watch it. I seem to remember some pretty outlandish comments coming from your end when you were in such a state. You really have no place making such intense comments about somebody's kid (who's actually alive). That's not cool.

That said, HG, of course abortions should be free in the US. So should all emergency health care an child-care services for everyone. I was given my abortion for free at a clinic in Portland, OR. The director approved it when I found out at the last minute that my federal insurance wouldn't cover it as emergency contraception. I was 19 y/o at the time and panicked so badly that I passed out screaming when they quoted me $300 or more for the cost.
They ended up giving it to me that day for free. I don't know what I would have done if I had been refused. Honestly, I don't even want to imagine what my life would have been like had I been forced to carry that pregnancy to term. I will always appreciate what was done for me. I've since made donations to that clinic once a year on the anniversary of Roe V Wade.
I would pay over and over again for another woman's abortion or any emergency procedure in women's health. I am my sister's keeper and I know that its support she'll pass on to another when that time comes.

StarryEyes
09-04-2008, 10:11 PM
Oh. My. God.

That is all.

fancygirl
09-04-2008, 10:14 PM
Did you cat choose kitten or herpes?



note to self: siggy this too

Jenny
09-05-2008, 01:18 AM
That said, HG, of course abortions should be free in the US. So should all emergency health care an child-care services for everyone. I was given my abortion for free at a clinic in Portland, OR.

I would pay over and over again for another woman's abortion or any emergency procedure in women's health. I am my sister's keeper and I know that its support she'll pass on to another when that time comes.
A point of fact that is relevant to this discussion is that the comparative expense issue is not limited to the cost of raising a child versus aborting it. Frankly, it is far cheaper to have an abortion than to give birth. It is not a matter of the state pays for abortion or washes its hands of the expense of the pregnancy. It pays for the abortion or pays more for the pregnancy. Or conversely, pays for the pregnancy or pays less for the abortion (more accurate that way, actually). I don't think that people should be encouraged to have abortions because they are cost effective, but it makes arguments about dispersal of public health care money a little disingenuous since the public purse is more burdened by women who receive medical social assistance giving birth than women who receive medical social assistance aborting.

jasmine
09-05-2008, 06:05 AM
happygiggles... you are the perfect example of someone who should of gotten an abortion. You can't even afford a thermometer for your sick child, and you have ignorant views that you will raise your spawn on, so she'll grow up and just be another ignorant southern "pro-lifer".

Hey, everyone from the south isn't like that, thank you very much! What if someone said people with this point of view were showing their ignorant northern roots? It would kind of chafe a little huh?

Not picking on you, I just read that crap pretty regularly and it irks. The people from the cities and suburbs around here seem pretty liberal. It's just the ones out in the rural areas, that seem to act like retarded trained monkeys (my pet name for conservatives).

Miss_Luscious
09-05-2008, 06:24 AM
I believe abortion should be available for everyone. However, I can see how the women who use abortion as birth control could piss people off. Hell, women who have multiple abortions pissed me off. My thing is, sometimes, abortion isn't just a selfish decision. I got pregnant a few years ago, right after giving birth to my son. We were careful but obviously not careful enough. I had started back dancing but money was still tight. So here I was, engaged, two children, very little extra money. I had to make a tough decision. My heart wanted to keep the baby (I'm pro-choice but I wish abortions didn't have to happen) but I knew that it would make life even harder for my family. With that in mind, I did the most selfless thing and had an abortion. I was sad but relieved afterward and I knew I made the right decision, even if it killed me inside. I am now pregnant with a baby that I can care for without hurting the rest of my family (even though it wasn't exactly planned).

My point is, if you are willing and able to care for a child, then have it. If not, have an abortion. The irresponsible thing to do would be to bring a child into the world which can't (or won't) be cared for.

Optimist
09-05-2008, 08:33 AM
What I can't understand is how people can be so relaxed with the idea of spaying and neutering pets but go nuts over controlling human births!

FORTY PERCENT of single moms live in poverty. They have kids without regard to the fact that they don't make enough to raise their kids alone. Since the divorce rate is over 50% no woman should assume they can rely on their husband's income for the next 20 years. And if your boyfriend doesn't "feel like" he wants to marry but wants to play house for a while then why the f--k are you having his kid??? :no: It's beyond me.

So, having said all of that, I don't get happygiggles outrage, I don't get the refusal of so many broke and busted chicks and their broke and busted mates to face reality. We need to raise our young ladies to love their personal power instead of throwing it out the window for a guy or the fantasy of family. Children are an awesome responsibility but so many don't want to see or respect that.

Perry
09-05-2008, 01:53 PM
The thread grows a new page every time I try to post!

I give up. But, yeah... :rotfl:

Oh, and abortions are good.

Rockell
09-05-2008, 04:30 PM
This thread......wow.

I had to make a very hard choice of whether or not to have an abortion 5 months ago and I'm very thankful that I had a right to make that CHOICE. I ended up keeping the baby, but I would never ever tell someone else that they shouldn't or couldn't have an abortion. I would gladly lend or even give someone I knew the lousy $300 to get an abortion if she knew in her heart that she couldn't provide for the child financially or emotionally. I also wouldn't mind my tax dollars going to someone who couldn't afford an abortion.

On another note, HG, I really think you need to do some research on the Welfare Reform Act of 1996, specifically it's "family cap" provision which bars payments for any child born while the mother is on welfare or a specific period thereafter. Also, states can put a time limit on how long a family can receive welfare (6 years, I think), so if your cousin thinks that she can continue having babies to up her benefits/payments and NEVER get a job then she is in for a very rude awakening.

NekkoStarz
09-05-2008, 09:36 PM
and also.... HG. Since you're not a stripper and you said yourself you are not cut out for the job.... what the hell are you doing on this board?? You should go find some single mothers support forum or something.


^^^^^^^^^^^^ A-FUCKING-MEN!!!!!!!!!!!!

Happygiggles, your posts honestly annoy the piss out of me! You're so ignorant, contradicting, & just full of bullshit! I'm surprised you even know how to use a computer.

Bianca O'Blivion
09-06-2008, 01:52 AM
This thread reminded me to donate to Planned Parenthood, one of my favoritest organizations in the world.

Hey, if this thread scares you, I'll make you piss your pants right now- Zygote Rights Advocate Sarah Palin could possibly be one heartbeat away from the Oval Office. *BLEAAAH!*

kitana
09-06-2008, 02:11 AM
^^^^^^^^^^^^ A-FUCKING-MEN!!!!!!!!!!!!

Happygiggles, your posts honestly annoy the piss out of me! You're so ignorant, contradicting, & just full of bullshit! I'm surprised you even know how to use a computer.

Holy SHIT Nekko!

I have NEVER heard (seen) you go off on someone, it's funny and a shock at the same time, rofl!}:D

iambonbon05
09-06-2008, 02:52 PM
This thread reminded me to donate to Planned Parenthood, one of my favoritest organizations in the world.

Hey, if this thread scares you, I'll make you piss your pants right now- Zygote Rights Advocate Sarah Palin could possibly be one heartbeat away from the Oval Office. *BLEAAAH!*
This whole time I've been wondering whether HG votes.

rubyredlipsss
09-06-2008, 03:49 PM
This whole time I've been wondering whether HG votes.

oooh great question.

i've been reading this thread but haven't had to input any opinion because everyone has pretty much covered it already so intellectually. thanks! :D

NekkoStarz
09-06-2008, 03:52 PM
Holy SHIT Nekko!

I have NEVER heard (seen) you go off on someone, it's funny and a shock at the same time, rofl!}:D


I know! ... But, her lame ass deserves it! ::) She also deserves a kick in the head in my opinion.

LadyM
09-06-2008, 08:40 PM
Yes I have compared abortions to boob jobs. Both are unecessary medical procedures even though one is cosmetic and the other......well i personally see it as cosmetic. I'm not saying abortions should not be available but EVERY pregnancy, unless raped, is preventable. I'm glad I live in America where they aren't free. For me to have to pay for someone else's mistake? I highly doubt that. It's bad enough that I'm paying for my 22 year old cousin and all four of her children(welfare, section 8, food stamps). Gosh, if you don't want a child, there are ways to prevent it from happening. Why should I or anyone feel sorry enough for someone who was irresponsible enough to conceive a child to say, well it should be free? My child? she was planned. A bad decision, I admit, but I've been sexually active for seven years and have not once gotten pregnant until I wanted to. Again, I'm not judging whether abortions are right or wrong for those who want them, suck it up and pay for it

This whole statement and the lack of knowledge and logic behind it is just mindboggling.

LadyM
09-06-2008, 08:53 PM
Go ahead and try to find a Dr. willing to sterilize a 22 y.o. woman in the US. This is part of the problem. To solve the abortion problem, Dr.s need to be willing to help the women that wish for sterilization.

It is an ordeal for women who already have children. It practically takes an act of congress for childless women under 30.

No kidding. I'm 37, with health issues and I STILL could not get my tubes tied. Even when I was going to pay cash out of pocket for it.

My 24yr old husband got his vasectomy (and how much do I love him for being willing to do this!??! *draws hearts around him omg!*) paid for by the Navy with no more fuss than a few minutes of chatting in our PCP's office and the uriologist's office.

There is NO gender-equality in this country when it comes to reproductive rights.

Optimist
09-06-2008, 09:32 PM
LadyM, that's 'cause they "know" you'll come to your senses and fulfill you duty as a woman....hopefully maybe someday on accident if necessary.::)

You may have to travel out of the country to have it done. I can't imagine every country has this same policy.

Jenny
09-06-2008, 09:37 PM
Interestingly, I think they should be more careful with the fertility of young men, not less careful with young women. I mean, not to target any individual person but we all know this is a topic that is notorious for people changing their minds, so invasive and permanent surgery should maybe not be given out like candy canes to young people. There are a lot of young guys who are going to want these procedures reversed later in life and it may not be the soundest medical practice to just snip snip on a whim.

LadyM
09-06-2008, 09:53 PM
Interestingly, I think they should be more careful with the fertility of young men, not less careful with young women. I mean, not to target any individual person but we all know this is a topic that is notorious for people changing their minds, so invasive and permanent surgery should maybe not be given out like candy canes to young people. There are a lot of young guys who are going to want these procedures reversed later in life and it may not be the soundest medical practice to just snip snip on a whim.

I do agree with that to a degree, but my husband and I talked about it alot before getting married. We do not want children for numerous reasons, but the most important being we simply do no want to be parents. I was will to go the IUD route (I can't take BC pills, rings, shots, etc) but my husband had been thinking of a V for a while BEFORE we met. So we decided to see what the health care system would say to his request. We were pleasantly surprised.

But the flip side of that is that if someone has valid reasons for wanting to permanently keep from having children, AND they are willing to pay out of pocket (not insurance and not state-funded) no doctor should force their beliefs upon that person, or even worse, assume that the person is too stupid to know what they really want.

Women will NEVER truly have control over our bodies until we can do what we want when we want with them, be it sex-for-money, having a child, not having a child, or whatever. Every time one woman is told 'no' or made out to be a villan, we ALL lose.

Jenny
09-06-2008, 10:57 PM
Oh, I don't want children either. This is not insistence that everyone will eventually want children. I'm not sure I agree that all the different bodily activities you cited can reasonably be compared, however. I mean - I don't think that having sex for money has much in common with abortion either physically or conceptually. Like, they are both things that one does, but... so is everything. I also think there is a big difference in choosing not to bear a child in a particular time and place and choosing not to bear a child ever, at all. And I don't think that acknowledging the fact that many, many, many people change their minds about not wanting children means that you are assuming that any individual is too stupid to know what they want. Like I said - fertility and sexual health are important - perhaps the most important - parts of our overall health and quality of life. I honestly and truly do not think a doctor would be well serving his patient by giving a 19 year old boy or girl (for example) a sterilization on demand.
I do agree with that to a degree, but my husband and I talked about it alot before getting married. We do not want children for numerous reasons, but the most important being we simply do no want to be parents. I was will to go the IUD route (I can't take BC pills, rings, shots, etc) but my husband had been thinking of a V for a while BEFORE we met. So we decided to see what the health care system would say to his request. We were pleasantly surprised.

But the flip side of that is that if someone has valid reasons for wanting to permanently keep from having children, AND they are willing to pay out of pocket (not insurance and not state-funded) no doctor should force their beliefs upon that person, or even worse, assume that the person is too stupid to know what they really want.

Women will NEVER truly have control over our bodies until we can do what we want when we want with them, be it sex-for-money, having a child, not having a child, or whatever. Every time one woman is told 'no' or made out to be a villan, we ALL lose.

Corgan
09-07-2008, 01:19 AM
for women who can't afford to take care of babies, adoption is always an option.....however, that's like the most horrible thing in the world right? to place a child up for adoption.

WRONG! my birthmother put me up for adoption and the family that adopted me gave me EVERYTHING!!!!! it was the best thing my birthmom could have done for me.

~Isabella
09-07-2008, 01:51 AM
for women who can't afford to take care of babies, adoption is always an option.....however, that's like the most horrible thing in the world right? to place a child up for adoption.

So what exactly do YOU suggest women who have an unwanted and unaffordable pregnancy do? Can't abort, can't giv it up for adoption...so you really think raising a child in poverty, shoppign at goodwill and wearing hand me downs, eating spaghetti o's and getting WIC cheese is really better than placing the child for adoption with a family that can provide for it?

TigersMilk
09-07-2008, 02:16 AM
for women who can't afford to take care of babies, adoption is always an option.....however, that's like the most horrible thing in the world right? to place a child up for adoption.

This thread is still going?? HA!

I thought you might have peaced out from this thread after every single comment you made was disproved. And then this! More HA!

You're right adoption is a horrible idea. I mean how could someone lovingly give up their baby for it to have a chance at a better life? I mean that is fucked up. :sarcastic

Miss_Luscious
09-07-2008, 08:47 AM
I think people are missing the sarcasm when she says adoption is the most horrible thing in the world. I mean, I was reading it sarcastically. Maybe I'm wrong.

Miss_Luscious
09-07-2008, 08:50 AM
Yeah, it was supposed to be sarcastic.


So abortion is the worst. Adoption is the worst. AND having a kid or two is the worst?

Man are you EVER happy?


you didn't see the sarcasm in that? but i guess it's the typing.

Corgan
09-07-2008, 09:27 AM
i didn't take it that way because it personally offended me. o well.

Miss_Luscious
09-07-2008, 09:41 AM
i didn't take it that way because it personally offended me. o well.

See, that's the problem with getting offended before you actually have all the facts. It colors your perception and makes you jump the gun. Not that I agree with HG's stance, I'm just trying to heighten the level of discourse here.

Sophia_Ashley
09-07-2008, 09:51 AM
Wow this thread is pretty pretty pretty awful and amazing at the same time. I didn't bother reading all the posts after the OP. But I'd like to add if there were more people having abortions for children they can't care for and put in danger as well...there would be less people on fucking welfare and in social services. Population control for incapable parents. Be it because of situations out of their control or situations within their control that they don't "feel" like amending. Not everyone goes on birth control and not every birth control is fool proof either. Shit happens. Life happens.

Abortions as cosmetic? What a joke. Yeah because tit implants and fetal removal is the same thing lol. Can they use fetuses as implants? I wasn't aware.

Also OP isn't that your baby in the signature line...flipping people off? What a great parent you are! You're an outstanding adult let me tell you. Glad to see the educational system that fails youth and lack of morals with ignorance prevails! And obviously will carry on since you seem to not have any working knowledge of how life/people and the world works.

Honestly you should take the earnings from stripping and invest in an education and parenting classes so that you aren't finding it hilarious that your daughter flips people off. That's not only not funny but immature on your part for finding it funny.

AudreyLeigh
09-07-2008, 09:51 AM
This thread is priceless...

Hello_Kitty27
09-07-2008, 10:08 AM
I'm just confused about whose name that is on a post a couple pages back....

HG for real, several people have mentioned that you should edit that post, even if it's not your name, maybe it's your cousins ...that's just not wise.

Lexi
09-07-2008, 12:25 PM
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