View Full Version : Why the Democrats Will Lose...Again
Eric Stoner
09-16-2008, 09:41 AM
It's starting to look as though one reason the Dems might lose is because they got fixated on the Veep candidate. They did it in '52 and lost; did it in '68 and lost and did it in '88 and lost. Nixon himself said it in 1968 when Spiro Agnew was catching all the flak and he was above it all : " It's a mistake to shoot down".
sapphiregirl
09-16-2008, 12:04 PM
It's starting to look as though one reason the Dems might lose is because they got fixated on the Veep candidate. They did it in '52 and lost; did it in '68 and lost and did it in '88 and lost. Nixon himself said it in 1968 when Spiro Agnew was catching all the flak and he was above it all : " It's a mistake to shoot down".
This race has not even started.....wait for the debates.
The Republicans are not not going to win.
I've made the decision that if The Republicans win again I'm leaving the damn country.
sapphiregirl
09-16-2008, 12:17 PM
I've made the decision that if The Republicans win again I'm leaving the damn country.
I don't think they will.....Republicans BARELY beat the Democrats in the last election and we had John Kerry running. He was a weak candidate and it was still a very close election.
Now we have Obama and the country is even more tired of the BS.
I also don't think Sarah Palin is as well like in Alaska as Republicans want American to believe. It's disturbing how she can never speak to the press like other candidates do.
Just make sure you show up and vote. :peace:
^Oh, I'll be there! I hope everyone is registered or will be registering VERY soon!
http://www.rockthevote.com/voting-is-easy/important-dates/
http://www.longdistancevoter.org/voter_registration_deadlines
Miss_Luscious
09-16-2008, 12:37 PM
My husband and I just registered here in North Carolina today. This is an important state as it does have the potential to go blue this year so I'm making sure we are good to go. We will certainly do our part. I'm also going to try to find some time to go around canvassing and registering people here in Raleigh as well. Basically, I'm doing everything in my power to make sure Obama wins in November. My children's futures are at stake and I refuse to allow the Republicans the opportunity to ruin it for them.
sapphiregirl
09-16-2008, 12:45 PM
My husband and I just registered here in North Carolina today. This is an important state as it does have the potential to go blue this year so I'm making sure we are good to go. We will certainly do our part. I'm also going to try to find some time to go around canvassing and registering people here in Raleigh as well. Basically, I'm doing everything in my power to make sure Obama wins in November. My children's futures are at stake and I refuse to allow the Republicans the opportunity to ruin it for them.
Sweet! I think that is where Kerry got into trouble. The younger generation has to show up and vote....If they do, it should be a slam dunk for Obama.
Eric Stoner
09-16-2008, 12:57 PM
This race has not even started.....wait for the debates.
The Republicans are not not going to win.
You don't know that and neither do I. A lot can happen in a few weeks.
I'm still leaning towards Obama but I have NO enthusiasm for him. None. But I don't have any for McCain either and his failure to acknowledge that Obama never called Palin a "pig" as he did on his recent appearance on "The View" shows that his desire to win trumps his honor.
While his choice of Palin hasn't gotten me hot and bothered; I don't think she has the necessary experience to generate the prudence necessary to properly serve as President. It's questionable whether Obama does either but he's certainly had broader and more varied life experiences than Palin which helps.
Eric Stoner
09-16-2008, 12:58 PM
I don't think they will.....Republicans BARELY beat the Democrats in the last election and we had John Kerry running. He was a weak candidate and it was still a very close election.
Now we have Obama and the country is even more tired of the BS.
I also don't think Sarah Palin is as well like in Alaska as Republicans want American to believe. It's disturbing how she can never speak to the press like other candidates do.
Just make sure you show up and vote. :peace:
Um, Bush got over 2 million votes more than Kerry did.
Eric Stoner
09-16-2008, 12:59 PM
I've made the decision that if The Republicans win again I'm leaving the damn country.
Write if you get work.
^Hopefully, I won't have to if my retirement plans pan out.
sapphiregirl
09-16-2008, 01:01 PM
Write if you get work.
Classy.....How is the gay grapevine today?
Zia_Abq
09-16-2008, 02:33 PM
I'm doing everything in my power to make sure Obama wins in November. My children's futures are at stake and I refuse to allow the Republicans the opportunity to ruin it for them.
If for no other reason we must do all within each of our power because it will indeed be a very bleak future for the majority of Americans and many others around the world if they do “fix” yet another election. It’s it a fair election this time around they will lose, simple as that. If it’s not a fair election the republican will “win” and those who can leave should and those who can’t better get used to living under the following conditions because that is what we are headed for if republicans keep up the same pace that they have in the last 8 years:
Totalitarian regimes or movements maintain themselves in political power by means of an official all-embracing ideology and propaganda disseminated through a political party that controls the state, central state-controlled economy, regulation and restriction of free discussion and criticism, the use of mass surveillance, and/or widespread use of terror tactics.
Deogol
09-16-2008, 02:47 PM
Classy.....How is the gay grapevine today?
Ya got something against gay people? Cuz it sounds like ya do... >:(
sapphiregirl
09-16-2008, 02:50 PM
Ya got something against gay people? Cuz it sounds like ya do... >:(
Well.....you should not jump to ASSumptions. I'm probably the biggest drummer FOR gay rights on this board....and this post was written by a straight girl with a gay brother.
Zia_Abq
09-16-2008, 02:51 PM
Ya got something against gay people? Cuz it sounds like ya do... >:(
Read more of her posts because you couldn't be more incorrect on that one. Her position is quite the opposite of what you are now assuming.
Deogol
09-16-2008, 02:52 PM
It’s it a fair election this time around they will lose, simple as that. If it’s not a fair election the republican will “win”
Aeh? Did you move here from Africa or something? There is all kinds of rants over there about whether the election was fixed based on who wins.
Is it so hard there might be a lot of people who dislike christian hating, class warfare, civil rights restricting, race baiting, politically correct untruths ultra-liberals?
Is it so hard to believe that there might be people who are independents of either party and find themselves holding their nose while they pull the lever (or push the button) for either party?
sapphiregirl
09-16-2008, 02:58 PM
Read more of her posts because you couldn't be more incorrect on that one. Her position is quite the opposite of what you are now assuming.
Speaking of gay rights.....The first American wounded in the Iraq war was a gay marine who stepped on a land mine and lost his leg.
He will vote for Barack Obama.
Meet the first man wounded in the Iraq war.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7xj4HN_Gt4
Zia_Abq
09-16-2008, 03:03 PM
Aeh? Did you move here from Africa or something? There is all kinds of rants over there about whether the election was fixed based on who wins.
Is it so hard there might be a lot of people who dislike christian hating, class warfare, civil rights restricting, race baiting, politically correct untruths ultra-liberals?
Is it so hard to believe that there might be people who are independents of either party and find themselves holding their nose while they pull the lever (or push the button) for either party?
Aha! And another republican rears it's ugly head ;) No but seriously, if you think that all liberals are christian hating, civil rights restricting, race baiting people then we are not going to have much at all to find common ground on. So how about we just agree to disagree right here and now. fair enough?
I respect your right to have and express your opinions. And I am going to ask you to consider being a different kind of conservative site member than most of the other males here who share your pov and please do the same for me, ok?
Thanks!
kitana
09-16-2008, 05:50 PM
Sorry but, in Kentucky
Sorry but "in Kentucky" what?
Or do you really think the only news we get in our tar paper shacks is from carrier pigeons or some shit?
Deogol
09-16-2008, 06:57 PM
Aha! And another republican rears it's ugly head ;) No but seriously, if you think that all liberals are christian hating, civil rights restricting, race baiting people then we are not going to have much at all to find common ground on. So how about we just agree to disagree right here and now. fair enough?
I respect your right to have and express your opinions. And I am going to ask you to consider being a different kind of conservative site member than most of the other males here who share your pov and please do the same for me, ok?
Thanks!
Sure - long enough you try to tame your sexism. :D
Zia_Abq
09-16-2008, 07:04 PM
Sure - long enough you try to tame your sexism. :D
I didn't mean it like that. There are plenty of great guys here and all around the world!
What I meant was that it's been most of the male conservatives who have behaved that way with me. The female conservatives have not. I hope you will be different than your fellow conservative men here in that respect, that's all. Does that clear it up?
kitana
09-17-2008, 03:50 AM
::) I was just saying that the average Democrat in Kentucky will likely be more conservative than one in, say, Oregon.
I was refering to NATIONAL news, such as CNN, MSNBC, or Faux News.
We do have cable here, lol.;)
Eric Stoner
09-17-2008, 07:45 AM
Classy.....How is the gay grapevine today?
I half wish I WAS gay so I could report you for "gay-baiting". I'm not going to ask you out so just get over it.
Eric Stoner
09-17-2008, 07:46 AM
^Hopefully, I won't have to if my retirement plans pan out.
You're sure about that ? Sort of depends where you put your retirement money doesn't it.
Eric Stoner
09-17-2008, 07:48 AM
Well.....you should not jump to ASSumptions. I'm probably the biggest drummer FOR gay rights on this board....and this post was written by a straight girl with a gay brother.
Fine. So any time you want to know what's on the "gay grapevine"- ASK YOUR BROTHER. Or Marvin Gaye.
Luxurious1
09-17-2008, 06:35 PM
A year ago I was excited about this but now I could care less. Obama has become less and less attractive to me as a future president and I Dont think either of these men are ready to lead a country. I would bet anyone that if Obama wins, He will take god off money. Why does he seem to be so against religion?
noone is getting my vote, f-it.
Miss_Luscious
09-17-2008, 06:59 PM
I would bet anyone that if Obama wins, He will take god off money. Why does he seem to be so against religion?
noone is getting my vote, f-it.
Obama is a Christian, he's not against religion. What leads you to believe he will take God off money?
Now this is my personal opinion but I don't think God has anyplace anywhere in government. This includes on our money and in our Pledge of Allegiance. The Christian God is not everyone's God and since this country is supposed to have a separation of church and state, all the references to God should be done with. If we want to keep God in the government we should also put all other deities in there too as it's only fair. That'll make the "In _____ We Trust" line pretty damn long on a dollar.
I am not seriously advocating this, just point out what we would have to do to be fair to everyone which we can't realistically do so we should just do away with it all.
I don't know if that last part was clear but I'm tired so there.
sapphiregirl
09-17-2008, 07:02 PM
A year ago I was excited about this but now I could care less. Obama has become less and less attractive to me as a future president and I Dont think either of these men are ready to lead a country. I would bet anyone that if Obama wins, He will take god off money. Why does he seem to be so against religion?
noone is getting my vote, f-it.
No one is against religion. Joe Biden is Obama's VP candidate and he is Catholic.
Its when you cannot seperate religion from politics that it gets dangerous fast...just look at history.
Zia_Abq
09-17-2008, 07:20 PM
I would bet anyone that if Obama wins, He will take god off money. Why does he seem to be so against religion?
Just curious but who did you vote for last time around and if you are registered with a political party-which one?