Log in

View Full Version : Tipping the DJ 10%???



Pages : 1 2 3 [4] 5 6

davka
09-30-2008, 12:27 AM
Djoser haha- ok but you have to wear heels.

keira0304
09-30-2008, 01:16 AM
Djoser haha- ok but you have to wear heels.

and a teeny tiny g-string, AND have to shave or intensely wax your manly bits 3-4 times a week and endure the PAIN!!!

Jenny
09-30-2008, 07:40 AM
Of course you can say the DJ has nothing to do with your making a penny all night, but you are making money for each song he plays. No DJ=no songs. Thus the DJ is integral to the money-making process.
That is some ridiculous logic. I mean 1) it isn't true. I've worked in clubs with no DJ. We still managed to achieve this thing we call "music". 2) You can do a lapdance to crickets and probably most of us have at some point. I regularly do an extra "dance" in the 3 or 4 minutes between the last song and before the lights come up.

Furthermore, the nature of the of music being played will affect how long a big crowd stays in the club, and their behavior to a large extent. Guys staying because they like the music and the way the dancers perform onstage to music the dancers really like (but isn't pissing everyone else off like so often happens in jukebox clubs) means more guys buying dances.
Yes - again, we've all heard the difficult science that is playing music guys want to listen to in strip clubs. But left to their own devices the vast majority of girls pick music that is highly inoffensive - yes there is the occasional inappropriate song or odd choice but it's not the norm. It's not like without a DJ the majority of girls would be choosing to dance to Dust in the Wind" over "Toxic". My DJ, when I let him pick my music has picked out some brilliant sets, but he has also picked out the worst possible clunkers. Guys did not all stand up and walk out. They all got expression of "this is pretty fucking weird" and then waited for the next song. You like to talk like you are working a complicated chemistry set where one wrong move will send the club spiraling off a cliff - that doesn't happen. Like in my club we have a DJ but we mostly pick our own music (as happens at most clubs here). You'd be surprised at how many customers don't sit around "getting pissed off" at the music the girls pick. Like I said - surprisingly, it pretty much all turns out fine even without a skilled professional vetting our choices.

Like I think the conditions you guys work under are bad - and I tip the minimum (well, really, in my club the minimum is zero, so I tip the next up) to my DJ because... well, without it he is not getting paid a living wage. But there is no way that the service he is providing me (like directly to me as a tippable service) is "worth" what I pay him. But that is the same with every stripclub employee. I mean, it is impossible to find good strip club employees, because their wages tend to be uncompetitive and frequently gleaned from what they can extort from the dancers.

saphire123456
09-30-2008, 08:20 AM
^ I actually worked at clubs with a jukebox, they were successfull clubs and the world didn't come to a screeching halt (although the greedier of the jukeboxes did expect a tip - you had to feed it quarters to get it to work)

CKXXX
09-30-2008, 08:29 AM
^ I actually worked at clubs with a jukebox, they were successfull clubs and the world didn't come to a screeching halt (although the greedier of the jukeboxes did expect a tip - you had to feed it quarters to get it to work)

The worst was when I worked at a club (Yek can back me up on this one!) where we picked all our own music off the computer and chose our own sets AND on the weekends there was THE most USELESS "DJ"(sorry..he WAS NOT a DJ). All he did was sit around,play pool,stink up the womens bathroom(because he was too lazy to walk the 10 feet to the mens!) and say "party like a rock star,fuck like a porn star" before each and EVERY girl...then both he AND his baby mama(who was a dancer)would yell and scream and throw a tantrum telling all the girls to give him craploads of money. GOD I hated that guy.

jaizaine
09-30-2008, 08:33 AM
Our DJ is a computer so i dont tip it LOL. But seriously and u know I think you're awesome Djoser but doesn't the club pay the DJ a wage? I dont understand the whole tipping thing?? Maybe it's just a cultural diff coz Aussie's dont really tip.

Djoser
09-30-2008, 10:36 AM
That is some ridiculous logic.

Ridiculous, my fucking ass.

This thread is about tipping DJs, it is not about what to do in jukebox clubs. Nowhere in the OP is anything said about a jukebox.*

If I am working in a club, and something happens to me so I cannot or will not play music, there is no motherfucking music.

She is asking whether it is necessary to tip her DJ 10%, and the answer is 'not necessarily'. Since the vast majority of clubs employ DJs, her question isn't answered by 'fuck the extortionist DJs, don't worry about the best way to deal with them, use the nonexistent jukebox instead'

Now that is some ridiculous logic...


But there is no way that the service he is providing me (like directly to me as a tippable service) is "worth" what I pay him.

Then you will no doubt understand the customers who don't think you provide entertainment 'worthy' of a tip. I can only guess at how many there might be, but I will pass on saying you are an extortionist who cannot possibly be any good at what you do.


But that is the same with every stripclub employee. I mean, it is impossible to find good strip club employees, because their wages tend to be uncompetitive and frequently gleaned from what they can extort from the dancers.

Maybe you have only dealt with extortionists as stripclub employees, and none of them were 'good'. This doesn't mean every stripclub employee in every other club in the world is no good and an extortionist. Unless maybe God told you so.

I know a lot of guys who say all dancers are greedy extortionists, as well, but they are as full of shit as you are when you make comments like this.


*While there are a few clubs with jukeboxes, they tend to be smaller dive type clubs.

Mons Venus in Tampa is one of the few well-known clubs in the country using a jukebox, but they also have Penthouse Pets working there, and extremely high hiring standards. Most clubs do not have high standards, and good music is vitally important to compensate, and keep the guys in the clubs when "terrible dancers" go up, or keep them from leaving the club to check out the competition.

The club I am working in now was expanded in a very large way from such a club, and I used to go there on my nights off while it was still a jukebox club, and the music sucked. The same whiny, cheesy, slow songs like 'Apologize' 20 times a night. Seriously, when I got there, 5 girls asked for that song and wanted it every single time they went up on a friday night.

Djoser
09-30-2008, 10:56 AM
Djoser haha- ok but you have to wear heels.


and a teeny tiny g-string, AND have to shave or intensely wax your manly bits 3-4 times a week and endure the PAIN!!!

:rotfl:

davka
09-30-2008, 03:08 PM
Djoser is that you on the pole in your pic? haha maybe you do work harder than me!

lildreamer316
09-30-2008, 03:42 PM
Ridiculous, my fucking ass.

This thread is about tipping DJs, it is not about what to do in jukebox clubs. Nowhere in the OP is anything said about a jukebox.*

If I am working in a club, and something happens to me so I cannot or will not play music, there is no motherfucking music.

She is asking whether it is necessary to tip her DJ 10%, and the answer is 'not necessarily'. Since the vast majority of clubs employ DJs, her question isn't answered by 'fuck the extortionist DJs, don't worry about the best way to deal with them, use the nonexistent jukebox instead'

Now that is some ridiculous logic...



Then you will no doubt understand the customers who don't think you provide entertainment 'worthy' of a tip. I can only guess at how many there might be, but I will pass on saying you are an extortionist who cannot possibly be any good at what you do.



Maybe you have only dealt with extortionists as stripclub employees, and none of them were 'good'. This doesn't mean every stripclub employee in every other club in the world is no good and an extortionist. Unless maybe God told you so.

I know a lot of guys who say all dancers are greedy extortionists, as well, but they are as full of shit as you are when you make comments like this.


*While there are a few clubs with jukeboxes, they tend to be smaller dive type clubs.

Mons Venus in Tampa is one of the few well-known clubs in the country using a jukebox, but they also have Penthouse Pets working there, and extremely high hiring standards. Most clubs do not have high standards, and good music is vitally important to compensate, and keep the guys in the clubs when "terrible dancers" go up, or keep them from leaving the club to check out the competition.

The club I am working in now was expanded in a very large way from such a club, and I used to go there on my nights off while it was still a jukebox club, and the music sucked. The same whiny, cheesy, slow songs like 'Apologize' 20 times a night. Seriously, when I got there, 5 girls asked for that song and wanted it every single time they went up on a friday night.


AS I DIE ...............

Could not agree more. Period.

holiday
09-30-2008, 04:34 PM
It seems to me that DJs have vastly different work loads and job requirements based on their club. I've worked with DJs who double as bouncers, I've dealt with a DJ who doubled as manager, I've also worked with DJs who double as drug dealers and do not take their DJing seriously at all.

At the moment I'm at a medium sized club, but on the day shift. I usually try to take care of them because they're able to do the same to me. I've had a DJ skip me simply because he can tell I'm closing a sale. Or if he sees guys tipping really well stage side, he'll put me up next. He'll play music based on the crowd and he's even burned a copy of a song for my regular when I said he liked it. I mean, I think that is all really awesome, and when I've had a great night, I'll tip him well.

The strange thing to me is that when I'm dancing in Vegas and making 1,000+ a night, I totally don't feel as inclined to tip the DJ, more than like, 20$. I know that is probably cheap, but really he doesn't help me personally, and I already feel so tapped after tipping everybody else.

But, who is more deserving of big tips? The one I work with in my home town doesn't really work that hard. I mean, he pays attention and all, but the night DJs in big cities at top clubs WORK, you know, non stop, WORK. But it's all about who can help you get paid, and really, I don't see how the DJs in big clubs can :-\ So, to that end, they should be getting paid from the club.

Djoser
09-30-2008, 08:49 PM
Djoser is that you on the pole in your pic? haha maybe you do work harder than me!

Yeah that's me, thanks.

But pole tricks are a lot easier than DJing. The customers being rude, you having to make the sales pitch anyway, and them then committing sexual assault, that's what really makes your job tough!


It seems to me that DJs have vastly different work loads and job requirements based on their club.

So true! Wherein lies a lot of the difficulty in mutual understanding in this thread. I know a lot of DJs aren't working that hard, I've seen them. Just like some dancers--but as I said earlier I think we here on SW tend to be a lot more motivated.



The strange thing to me is that when I'm dancing in Vegas and making 1,000+ a night, I totally don't feel as inclined to tip the DJ, more than like, 20$. I know that is probably cheap, but really he doesn't help me personally, and I already feel so tapped after tipping everybody else.

But, who is more deserving of big tips? The one I work with in my home town doesn't really work that hard. I mean, he pays attention and all, but the night DJs in big cities at top clubs WORK, you know, non stop, WORK. But it's all about who can help you get paid, and really, I don't see how the DJs in big clubs can :-\ So, to that end, they should be getting paid from the club.

Those Vegas DJs (the ones in the big clubs, not all of them) also get 20$ from the other 100 dancers, and even if they have to kick back half of it to the floor men and the manager, they are still walking with a grand. So 20$ is not a cheap tip, I don't think.

What you are saying about the guys in big clubs working harder is true, and worst of all is the factory type club with really short songs that nonetheless expects you to cater carefully to each individual dancer. That's what I have been doing at the last two clubs, and is why I am so often literally zombified at the end of the night.


The bottom line is, returning to what Susan was saying, there are terrible DJs and terrible dancers out there, as well as really good ones. The terrible DJs can probably be harder to deal with, since you are stuck with them all night, lol. Though I have had only one whacked out dancer freaking out for no reason ruin my entire night many times.

Also, the clubs should be paying the DJs, bouncers, valets, and the dancers too! More than token minimum wage type money which leads to the tipping thing--which in the big city clubs is often quite convoluted. But they don't, and unfortunately the USA clubs seem to be stuck with this arrangement.

Djoser
09-30-2008, 08:56 PM
I have to say, it's really cool that this thread has turned out so well, relatively speaking (compared to the annual DJ/dancer battle here).

I am especially pleased that I have been able to reach an understanding with someone so obviously intelligent, spirited, and creative as Davka--not to leave anyone else out.

That is, until we duke it out on our Workathon night. ;D

Now we have to pick a club. A big tough nasty club with lots of rude customers and mean dancers, lol.

davka
09-30-2008, 09:00 PM
Haha that would be so outrageous and fabulous. Oh my- just imagine it- a battle night between the dancers and the djs and doormen and such. It could be this big drag jamboree! I am seriously imagining this and it would be so cool to do that once a month or so in the clubs. Have everybody switch roles around and just have fun learning empathy. I know that if I had to sit in a booth and listen to some catty bitches telling me off about music... haha... I would either cry or fight somebody. lol.


You got me thinking Djoser! With an awesome Dj I am sure there are tons of ways he can help the girls make money. We need more DJs like you!

Djoser
09-30-2008, 10:01 PM
Haha that would be so outrageous and fabulous. Oh my- just imagine it- a battle night between the dancers and the djs and doormen and such. It could be this big drag jamboree! I am seriously imagining this and it would be so cool to do that once a month or so in the clubs. Have everybody switch roles around and just have fun learning empathy. I know that if I had to sit in a booth and listen to some catty bitches telling me off about music... haha... I would either cry or fight somebody. lol.


Oh, I love putting dancers on the mike, it's fun! Except the last time the one dancer I had do it didn't want to stop. I didn't mind so much, but the management doesn't like too much of it.

Once I got one dancer on the mike--she was a New Orleans radio DJ/refugee from Hurricane Katrine, who was dancing to get back on her feet. I did it on purpose to get her hired, knowing that the manager would be intrigued by her voice. He hired her instantly.

So she would announce she would DJ topless if the guys tipped her, and she did! I would come in on my nights off and tip her to do it, and get them started, if they hadn't already.




Just as an aside to the DJs, one thing that has helped me get tipped more is to tip the dancers who tip me well, when the guys are sitting there like sea slugs and they are onstage. I figured out I have spent about 4,000 dollars at a minimum doing this in ten years. But I have made it all back and then some, by doing this, especially if you just announced about tipping. Putting your money where your mouth is, so to speak--and it sometimes gets the customers up there, too.

If the guy is being rude with his dollar on purpose or making a joke out of deliberately not tipping, get up there for sure and laugh at him as you tip her. They remember stuff like that. I actually have to do this, good tipping dancer or not--I cannot stand motherfuckers who are rude at the rail.

desavirsire
09-30-2008, 10:11 PM
Now we have to pick a club. A big tough nasty club with lots of rude customers and mean dancers, lol.

I suggest somewhere in Miami :P

davka
10-01-2008, 01:20 AM
haha we are doing this djoser.

if you did that- like got up and tipped the dancer on stage to shame the guys not tipping. you definitely deserve big tips at the end of the night. more djs need to do these things. that is totally awesome.

CKXXX
10-01-2008, 09:04 AM
If the guy is being rude with his dollar on purpose or making a joke out of deliberately not tipping, get up there for sure and laugh at him as you tip her. They remember stuff like that.

Yes..yes we do!


I suggest somewhere in Miami :P

HAHAHA!! Def....doesnt get much worse then a lot of clubs here!!

DJ Steve
10-01-2008, 01:26 PM
Just as an aside to the DJs, one thing that has helped me get tipped more is to tip the dancers who tip me well, when the guys are sitting there like sea slugs and they are onstage. I figured out I have spent about 4,000 dollars at a minimum doing this in ten years. But I have made it all back and then some, by doing this, especially if you just announced about tipping. Putting your money where your mouth is, so to speak--and it sometimes gets the customers up there, too.

If the guy is being rude with his dollar on purpose or making a joke out of deliberately not tipping, get up there for sure and laugh at him as you tip her. They remember stuff like that. I actually have to do this, good tipping dancer or not--I cannot stand motherfuckers who are rude at the rail.

thats some great advice bro, much appreciated! i also cant stand theguys who are rude at the tiprail.


I am also glad we have come to a level of mutual respect in this thread, i really do have a LOT of respect for what you girls do for a living, and for putting up with all the bullshit you do. there will always be dancers that ruin it for everyone and the same goes for dj's.

Ava Lee
10-02-2008, 01:00 PM
I was gonna start a new thread but since this one his here already ill ask..

i just started a new club and the dj is a complete dick head! He treats all the dancers like we are really stupid, when i ask for a music suggestion he gets all pissed off and says hes too busy! and if i dont know exactly what i want to play he makes rude comments! wtf YOUR a fucking dj! thats why i want your opinion on music choices! NOT because im too stupid to pick something all by my stupid stripper self.

so here is the thing.... its a mandatory 10% tip out on what we make on dances! and they keep track, the other night i tipped the bastard $65!
He's absolutely useless AND he makes me feel like shit throughout my whole shift!
What do u guys suggest?
im thinking about just handing him half of 10% for as long as i can, and if he says anything or if managment says something ill just tell them that i think the dj is an incompetent asswhole who not only doesnt help in my music selection but also blatantly insults me!
see how he feels about that?

Otoki
10-02-2008, 01:53 PM
I usually give 20 to the bouncer pool and 20 to the dj. Anyone who helps me make money gets a personal tip. I pay out 66/night, and the cage guy (dude who takes our money, orders our food, etc) gets 4-14 depending on what he did/how I did. With cab, I pay out 120/night if I make at least 300. If I make less than that, DJ gets 10 and bouncer pool gets 10-20.

I have a DJ I don't like very much, and he always only gets 10.

Otoki
10-02-2008, 01:54 PM
I was gonna start a new thread but since this one his here already ill ask..

i just started a new club and the dj is a complete dick head! He treats all the dancers like we are really stupid, when i ask for a music suggestion he gets all pissed off and says hes too busy! and if i dont know exactly what i want to play he makes rude comments! wtf YOUR a fucking dj! thats why i want your opinion on music choices! NOT because im too stupid to pick something all by my stupid stripper self.

so here is the thing.... its a mandatory 10% tip out on what we make on dances! and they keep track, the other night i tipped the bastard $65!
He's absolutely useless AND he makes me feel like shit throughout my whole shift!
What do u guys suggest?
im thinking about just handing him half of 10% for as long as i can, and if he says anything or if managment says something ill just tell them that i think the dj is an incompetent asswhole who not only doesnt help in my music selection but also blatantly insults me!
see how he feels about that?
If you feel like management might care, talk to them about his conduct first.

snow white
10-02-2008, 02:15 PM
I tip 5% if he sucked all night, 10% if he did a good job, 10% + $5-10 if he did an excellent job or took me off rotation so I could do a VIP. So I tip out $20-$60 depending on the above.
Its a mandatory 10% or $8 (whichever is more) at my club. I think the djs also get a cut of our house fee, because they raised it not to long ago around the time the djs were complaining about money.
I have no problem tipping 10% because I want to stay on the djs good side and not end up on his 'shit list.'

Otoki
10-03-2008, 12:52 AM
I tip 5% if he sucked all night, 10% if he did a good job, 10% + $5-10 if he did an excellent job or took me off rotation so I could do a VIP. So I tip out $20-$60 depending on the above.
Its a mandatory 10% or $8 (whichever is more) at my club. I think the djs also get a cut of our house fee, because they raised it not to long ago around the time the djs were complaining about money.
I have no problem tipping 10% because I want to stay on the djs good side and not end up on his 'shit list.'
I think some of us have a problem with needing to tip such a large amount to stay on a paid staff-member's good side.

krystalpink
10-03-2008, 08:36 AM
I live in Aust. and when i worked and got tipped on stage I would give some to the dj because he would play my music and cut the songs extra short so I wouldn't be up there for ages. I also tip for any GREAT service inc. my beautician, hairdresser waitresses etc.. If someone works hard to provide you with fantastic service it's almost rude not to tip no matter what country you live in..

CarlyMIA
10-03-2008, 11:05 AM
I was gonna start a new thread but since this one his here already ill ask..

i just started a new club and the dj is a complete dick head! He treats all the dancers like we are really stupid, when i ask for a music suggestion he gets all pissed off and says hes too busy! and if i dont know exactly what i want to play he makes rude comments! wtf YOUR a fucking dj! thats why i want your opinion on music choices! NOT because im too stupid to pick something all by my stupid stripper self.

so here is the thing.... its a mandatory 10% tip out on what we make on dances! and they keep track, the other night i tipped the bastard $65!
He's absolutely useless AND he makes me feel like shit throughout my whole shift!
What do u guys suggest?
im thinking about just handing him half of 10% for as long as i can, and if he says anything or if managment says something ill just tell them that i think the dj is an incompetent asswhole who not only doesnt help in my music selection but also blatantly insults me!
see how he feels about that?

Aghhh.. I feel your pain! I always tip good ($20 minimum) but the other night, 10% of my total from trackable dances would be $52. He is not a great DJ, he just does his job and even pulled me as a "fill in" on the stage where noone tips and I was just there a set ago! He looks at me and the $40 and says "it's $52". So I look back and say "I think $40 is good" and left. What is he gonna do, run after me? Yea right.

Bottom line, give him at least $20, but over $50 is definitely pushing it if he insults and puts you down. Honestly, he doesnt deserve a tip AT ALL for being an asshole like that.

krystalpink
10-04-2008, 11:12 AM
Call me a naive Aussie but isn't the whole point of tipping a reward for good service? And shouldn't it be up to your discretion how much you want to give? if the guy is being rude i wouldn't give anything.. Does the club pay his wages?

Ava Lee
10-04-2008, 01:16 PM
Call me a naive Aussie but isn't the whole point of tipping a reward for good service? And shouldn't it be up to your discretion how much you want to give? if the guy is being rude i wouldn't give anything.. Does the club pay his wages?

I would certainly hope the club doesnt give this lowlife anymore money!
he makes as much as the dancers do if you do the math!
say there are 15 girls working, each girl does 15 dances that $450! for being an asswhole! ugh
and that a really low estimate, as most dancers do more then 15 dances!

Lena
10-04-2008, 06:07 PM
So I was sitting with this nice high rolling customer and this asshole DJ who had just gotten there came over and started bitching at me about my attitude from months ago at another club. I said to my customer, "hey, would you just give him $20 to shut the fuck up and leave me alone?" and he handed the DJ $20 and was like, please go away. I just meant for the moment and maybe getting skipped once or something, but he skipped me for the whole night and never spoke to me again!

I feel bad for supporting asshole DJness, but it worked. And he was cheap.

Otoki
10-07-2008, 08:20 PM
So I was sitting with this nice high rolling customer and this asshole DJ who had just gotten there came over and started bitching at me about my attitude from months ago at another club. I said to my customer, "hey, would you just give him $20 to shut the fuck up and leave me alone?" and he handed the DJ $20 and was like, please go away. I just meant for the moment and maybe getting skipped once or something, but he skipped me for the whole night and never spoke to me again!

I feel bad for supporting asshole DJness, but it worked. And he was cheap.
That is SO unprofessional! I can't believe he bitched at you (not only on the floor, but when you were with a CUSTOMER!). That asshole would have been fired so fast at my club...

BIGJosh
10-10-2008, 01:56 AM
Like I was saying, I would love to try that for a few weeks, just to see what it's like--chilling out, getting drunk, playing video games, etc. In clubs like yours, the DJ can get away with it, apparently. Actually, I could drink and play video games, if I wanted to, that's how much the owner likes me. But he likes me because I won't do that.

Actually, there is no one who works harder in the entire club than I do, not dancers, bartenders, bouncers, managers, barbacks--none of them. A few work as hard as I do, but not many. I have labored for the fastest commercial masonry firm in Detroit, there is no tougher work physically, and this is more tiring.

I get home so fried some nights, I'm like a zombie. And it's not from fucking around like I see so many dancers or DJs doing in so many clubs--but which I'm sure most of you here, being more business-oriented, won't generally do. This summer I have made more than most of the dancers, actually, but a lot of them will catch up this Season, I imagine.

The talking between songs is wrong, you fade the songs into each other and talk over them so there is no wasted time. As it is I have to play 2 1/2 minute songs (as opposd to the industry standard 3 1/2) when it's busy, or when the women that clear the tiprail every time go up. The dancers in my club would lynch that guy, lol.

But really, this is growing tiresome. We have established that 10% tipping is rare except where required, and that a 50$ tip is outstanding whether the dancer made 500 or 1000$. That a 20$ tip is pretty fucking good for most clubs. That some dancers don't think DJs work very hard. That some DJs don't, and some do. That some dancers don't work very hard, and some do.

It all boils down to empathy. Like the customers who come in and don't tip anyone. If you ask them, they'd probably say 'Hey, I'm not required to, and she's not doing anything for me at all.' Which in some cases might be true. Some people don't tip waitresses very well either. 'She didn't cook the food, she just carried it out here.'

It's quite easy to look at someone and think they aren't working very hard or don't deserve what they are making, like you will hear customers do with the dancers, the dancers with the DJs, the DJs with the managers, and on the cycle goes. It's much harder to put yourself in their shoes, whether there are 7" heels on them or not.

Post of the year!

lildreamer316
10-10-2008, 05:52 AM
Post of the year!


I begin to wonder. Does anyone ever READ my posts?
Or maybe the fact that I'm female is the turnoff. I dunno.
It's not like I haven't been either married or engaged to gentleman's club djs for the last 15 years.
*shrugs*

BIGJosh
10-29-2008, 01:29 AM
I read it, understood it, and responded to it. I used to DJ, and I thought it was a very "UnClassy" thing to do when you don't tip a DJ. I marvel at these girls who whine about how "they don't need a dj" and "they can dance fine w/a Jukebox". WRONG!! You need a dj to introduce you to customers, play music, keep a party-like atmosphere in the club going, totally hype up(sell the ladies to customers). I used to get a kick outta the girls who "never tipped" and then whined all night about how we kept putting them up on stage, or how we wouldn't "skip them", so they can make $$$ from a customer? why would we want to help you if you're not helping us? The MGR comes up and starts asking questions as to why you skipped so and so, and what do we tell them? "Well, the no tipping girl I skipped because i liked the color of her hair"? I dont think so. Next time we dont "skip you" or hype you up on stage, or recommend a high dollar custmoer to you? dont wonder why. It works both ways ladies. I've seen dj's(who by the way, walk the club when you dont/do and we see ALOT) recommend girls to custmoers after seeing a high dollar custie come in(maybe we saw him pull out a wad of cash @ the door for cover? (You never know) and we want you to make $$$, or we like your attitude, whatever. Who do you think we'll go to to help out that csutie find a nice girl to spend $$$ on? certainly not the girl who whines about tipping the dj, or doesn't tip at all.

What that means to you: Potential loss of dough, and you're there for what reason? to make as much as you can right? so why fuck that up by being cheap? Maybe the dj tells a manager about a past custie who came in and spent a boatload of cash in the club? do you think he's going to say "hey, get the no tipping girls to go to them"? nope. It all works out in the end.

Now, as to what to tip, not to tip DJ's? not for me to discuss, but you should tip EVERY dj, regardless of whether they're the best dj in town, or the worst. Keep in mind at all times, While you have bills to pay, he/she does as well? maybe they're just as high as your bills? Maybe you giving him a tip shows how much you appreciate his/her job? $5-$10 bucks isn't too much to ask, and if they did a great job for you, and hook you up w/music/etc. every night? throw 'em a few more dolla's, they'll appreciate it, and bend over backwards for you next time, believe that.

Feet hurt and you dont want to go up? hey, I'll skip you and put up Ms Complainer instead. Need to go up for "just a sec" so that your regular can see you? we can do that, and will.

It's also not easy being a Dj, b/c of other thins as well. I've worked @ many a club in my day, and i can assure you, as much shit as some of you girls catch from customers/managers/etc? DJ's catch just as much, if not more than you. We're epxected to keep the club going, put up girl after girl, try to do do various other things throughout the night. Put yourselves in his/her position for a second? We have to pay for that music you're all so fond of...there's no "free" sites anymore. Music costs $$$, sometimes hundreds of dollars a month for the latest and greatest. Where do you think the dj's get this cash from? You think we just pull it out of our asses and suddenly your favorite jams appear? then, when it's time for you to leave, you say "thanks", and walk away w/o tipping? Talk about low class. I dont know how many times this has pissed me(and several others in the industry I Know) off. Trust me, sitting in front of a comp all day downloading all your favorite jams, so we can make you look like a million bucks, isn't easy. Your time is $$$ right? so is a DJ's, so have a heart?

You all work in a tipping industry, if you hate "tipping" anyone so much, go find another fucking job making the $$$ you do, and see how many places will put up with you only doing YOUR share, or some of the shit you pull?

Keep this in mind also: I'd be willing to bet any dancer that posts here, that YOU wouldn't like it if no one tipped you? Whether you're a DJ or not, you'd flip out if your club was full and you didn't make $1 the entire night? You did all you could, and amde yourself out to be the greatest (and hottest) dancer around, and got nothing? You'd freak out(and knock off the "no I wouldnt I'd just deal with it..blah blah blah"), BS!!!! You know you'd be bitching to anyone within a 25 mile radious of you about it.

I crack up @ girls who whine and bitch all night about how they dont make any money(these are usually the same ones who dont tip dj's), and we all know they've made something.

We're not asking for $500.00 bucks...but, take care of us is all. We know you might not have $10-20-30 bucks a night to tip us, and we don't expect you to(if they do, then THEY'RE fucking stupid). Not every girls walks out with truckloads of cash each night. Throw us what you can, believe me, we appreciate it. If we take care of you on a consistant basis, then look out for us, is that too much to ask for? Contrary to popular belief, WE WORK HARD TOO. May not seem like it to you, but we do. I'd also be willing to bet any girl that posts here, that OUR job isn't as easy as it looks, and you'd probably have a new appreciation for it if you were to work a night or 3 doing so? Try doing it on a busy weekend, w/SEVERAL girls? I can assure you, it's not easy.


Just cut us a break. We're people too, and we have bills too. We gotta eat too.

ViolaStrings
10-29-2008, 05:39 AM
^ Jeez, here it goes again.

The moral of the post is, if you suck at your job and are mean to the dancers, we're not going to tip you as much as if you are good at your job and nice.

spartaca
10-29-2008, 05:41 AM
Its not customary to tip out anyone in England. Our DJs get paid a decent wage by management to do their job and if they don't then it's an issue for dancers to take up with the managers who pay their wages. However, it does come down to treating your DJ well and vice versa.

I have worked in clubs with jukeboxes and it really isn't the same as having a good DJ. In one jukebox club it was the only club for miles and miles so customers had no choice and so i made money regardless. But a good DJ can make the difference to your income. I had some fantastic DJs who i would take time to talk with, swap music with, buy drinks for and they would accordingly look after me - the number of times DJs have recommended me for stage shows for stags, cut short songs when i'm on a roll or skipped me. Just because i took time to appreciate them. (although i did find it weird having my bf DJ in the club i danced in, he worked in one of the bosses regular clubs and had to cover in our place for a week, it definitely felt strange!)

BIGJosh
10-29-2008, 11:21 PM
^ Jeez, here it goes again.

The moral of the post is, if you suck at your job and are mean to the dancers, we're not going to tip you as much as if you are good at your job and nice.

I dont blame you, but again, it works 2 ways dear. Not all girls come into work with a great attitude. Alot of them have a chip on their shoulders, or a shitty attitude, so why should we have to deal with that as well? Maybe other girls have been mean to them, or are consistantly getting them into trouble? Maybe they're not trying tot ake it out on everyone, and it seems that way to you?

If you dont like the dj @ your club, then tip him what you want, but you should tip him, even if it's only 5 bucks. Then, the dj you like, take care of him, you get me?

Keep in mind: he might be "mean" b/c he has to deal w/ALOT of shit all night, from everyone andis constantly getting yelled @ for stuff girls do?

I dont know. If he's a dick, then complain to a mgr, and continue doing so, or have a chat w/the dj yourself, and say "hey wtf is going on with you?" might be able to squash that stuff. I wouldnt put up with his dickishness, but again, might be different circumstances you're unaware of that caused him/her to be that way?

Otoki
10-30-2008, 12:53 AM
I dont blame you, but again, it works 2 ways dear. Not all girls come into work with a great attitude. Alot of them have a chip on their shoulders, or a shitty attitude, so why should we have to deal with that as well? Maybe other girls have been mean to them, or are consistantly getting them into trouble? Maybe they're not trying tot ake it out on everyone, and it seems that way to you?

If you dont like the dj @ your club, then tip him what you want, but you should tip him, even if it's only 5 bucks. Then, the dj you like, take care of him, you get me?

Keep in mind: he might be "mean" b/c he has to deal w/ALOT of shit all night, from everyone andis constantly getting yelled @ for stuff girls do?

I dont know. If he's a dick, then complain to a mgr, and continue doing so, or have a chat w/the dj yourself, and say "hey wtf is going on with you?" might be able to squash that stuff. I wouldnt put up with his dickishness, but again, might be different circumstances you're unaware of that caused him/her to be that way?
Sometimes, but normally, when a dj is consistently shitty, it's his deal, not the girls'.

We all agree with VS's summary of the thread. Do we have to continue with this never-ending argument?

ViolaStrings
10-30-2008, 08:59 AM
I dont blame you, but again, it works 2 ways dear. Not all girls come into work with a great attitude. Alot of them have a chip on their shoulders, or a shitty attitude, so why should we have to deal with that as well? Maybe other girls have been mean to them, or are consistantly getting them into trouble? Maybe they're not trying tot ake it out on everyone, and it seems that way to you?

If you dont like the dj @ your club, then tip him what you want, but you should tip him, even if it's only 5 bucks. Then, the dj you like, take care of him, you get me?

Keep in mind: he might be "mean" b/c he has to deal w/ALOT of shit all night, from everyone andis constantly getting yelled @ for stuff girls do?

I dont know. If he's a dick, then complain to a mgr, and continue doing so, or have a chat w/the dj yourself, and say "hey wtf is going on with you?" might be able to squash that stuff. I wouldnt put up with his dickishness, but again, might be different circumstances you're unaware of that caused him/her to be that way?

We're required to tip our DJ $10 minimum, and I ALWAYS DO. There's a sliding scale up to $25 - keep in mind this is a club with 100 girls a night.

Now at my last club where we have to tip the JERK DJ 10% of ALL our money and they know how much you make b/c no one pays VIP with cash, that sucked. I was forced to tip him $300 one night when I was in VIP all night, and never onstage. I think $100 max, for predictable bad attitude and sub par services, was more than reasonable.

lildreamer316
10-30-2008, 09:37 AM
I give up.

ViolaStrings
10-30-2008, 01:16 PM
^ for real.

Otoki
11-01-2008, 02:44 PM
We're required to tip our DJ $10 minimum, and I ALWAYS DO. There's a sliding scale up to $25 - keep in mind this is a club with 100 girls a night.

Now at my last club where we have to tip the JERK DJ 10% of ALL our money and they know how much you make b/c no one pays VIP with cash, that sucked. I was forced to tip him $300 one night when I was in VIP all night, and never onstage. I think $100 max, for predictable bad attitude and sub par services, was more than reasonable.
That's disgusting.

Christyismyalias
10-28-2009, 02:56 AM
The rule at my club is 10%. I think it is appropriate and fair. I mean, the club works together for everyone to make money, and we all want to make money.
Our DJs have to keep track of all the girls, VIPs, and all the specific times each girl is in privates-which I think gets complicated. Not to mention they control the vibe of the club, which I think must get hard at times. Especially when girls are complaining and they have to listen the the BS...

velvet
10-28-2009, 07:15 PM
no DJ is worth 10% of what we make. maybe at some super mega club where they actually have to work but most dont.
20-40 MAX is fair IMO. unless like any other club employee that goes out of their way to help, then an extra tip is in order.

CarlyMIA
10-28-2009, 07:16 PM
oh no.. not this thread again..

Christyismyalias
10-29-2009, 02:51 AM
no DJ is worth 10% of what we make. maybe at some super mega club where they actually have to work but most dont.
20-40 MAX is fair IMO. unless like any other club employee that goes out of their way to help, then an extra tip is in order.

They don't keep all that money. They give a portion to the club. It's like our tax for being able to walk into that building and make our money.
Maybe in some places you pay a set price to come in and work and then keep everything you make, but 10% isn't completely unreasonable. Of course, if it wasn't the rule I would be happy, but if that's what the club requires of us, I'm happy to pay it than to not be able to come in and make my money..

ViolaStrings
10-29-2009, 09:32 AM
^ I think 5% is reasonable. 10%? Really? You think DJs deserve $100 of every thousand we make?

hot4ablackchick
10-29-2009, 09:54 AM
$100 just seems ridiculous to me. I could understand if a DJ was super duper awesome, really went out of his way to get us tips onstage, and keep the party going. Even with all that a $100 tip just seems like too much to me. I know that our DJ's do not pay any sort of house fee, they keep all that they make and recieve a paycheck. I'll admit that they get about $8-$11 bucks an hour, but that seems way high. I factor in many things before I tip the Dj like:

How many girls are working? If I have a really good night and there are few girls working, then I might give a bit extra, because fewer girls, fewer tips for him.

Did he do anything for me? Did he encourage guys to tip if they weren't or encourage guys to come stageside for my show?

Did he try to hype up the crowd? Did he create a 'party' atmosphere?

How was my lights? Did he do anything with my light show or leave it on random?

Did he say anything unique about me when onstage?

Did he play from my musice selection?

Most importantly did he have anything to do with me making the money, like referring
a custy to me or referring me to a custy. Was he stuck playing songs for me after closing because I was giving dances after hours?

One DJ caps at about $30 no matter what I make, the other about $60. One DJ is good but not exceptional, the other plays what I want and is efficient but doesn't do anything else. Sucky DJ gets $10 for crappy nights, $15 for OK, $20-$25 for good, and $30 for exceptional. The good Dj gets a bit more because he works much harder for his. I think I'm being pretty generous and I will never follow the 10% rule.

SerenaSin
10-29-2009, 10:49 AM
We have a really great DJ who sort of acts as a de facto bouncer during the week when he needs to, since we only have a bouncer on the weekend. Keeps me off stage when he sees me sitting with a high-roller or sees that I'm having a great night hustling, no questions asked. Encourages us to keep going when we wanna give up. I always tip him $10 or 10%, whichever is more, no matter how much or how little I make.

But I'm also someone who always tips a waitress 15%, even if the food sucked and she wasn't that great, unless she like cusses me out of spits in my food or something. Really, since I live in a 'tipping culture' I tip people just for doing their job, not for doing it particularly well or with a whole lot of enthusiasm, and I tip GOOD for an EXTRA good job.

I wish American businesses paid a decent living wage to workers but a society that tolerates unfettered capitalist greed and discourages any sort of workers rights/ unionization/ syndicalist movements has allowed it to become this way.

Otoki
10-30-2009, 09:01 AM
For me, if I make 300 or less I tip $15 to the DJ, $15 or 20 to the floor guys (the floor guys pool their tips so you don't have to tip everyone individually) and I separately tip anyone who helped me out that night. 400-500, $20 to DJ, $20 or $25 to floor guys. 600+ $30 to the DJ (unless he sucked, in which case he only gets 20) and $30-40 to the floor guys. I've only had one night where I made over 1000 and I ended up tipping out 200 total, just because I'd had some rough nights before and hadn't been able to tip much.

We don't make a ton of money on stage usually, so the floor guys get priority when it comes to tips because they keep us safe and bring us to customers.

Christyismyalias
10-31-2009, 12:43 PM
^ I think 5% is reasonable. 10%? Really? You think DJs deserve $100 of every thousand we make?
It's not that I think the DJ in particular DESERVES that money. I deal with the pervy guys, I fight their hands off of me, and I hustle everyone in that club to make all my money. He sits in a booth and controls the music, and with the exception of dealing with stupid girls and handling VIP/stage times, I'd say he has a pretty good job.
I'm just saying I think of it as a tax/fee for my being able to come into the club and make my money. Like I said, I don't think the DJ gets all that money, he tips out as well. It all works together so everyone makes their money.
Of course if they changed it to 5% I would be ecstatic, but it is what it is.