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hockeybobby
12-02-2008, 11:13 AM
Haha..."20 year old bombshell ass". A new SW term is born...nice goin' Pink!

bsteve
12-02-2008, 09:14 PM
I don't buy this either.

Wow! abcd and Pink' agree on something!

glambman
12-02-2008, 09:19 PM
Wow! abcd and Pink' agree on something!


Maybe he'll get a date, tongue in is ear, and a happy ending.....for free. ::)

Golden_Rule
12-03-2008, 05:07 PM
again, unfortunately this is not true of all, or even most men. hookers are at a much greater risk of getting killed than the average woman. a lot of men have a ton of pent up anger towards sex workers. some take out their anger by going to strip clubs every day and sitting with their arms crossed with an angry look on their face nursing a drink all night and insulting any dancer who dares ask them for a dance, while others go as far as to hire hookers so they can rape and torture them. A lot of men seem to be angry that most women can make money off of doing something they would gladly do for free. im not saying this is all men, but you cant say that all men are appreciative of sex workers. it is clear you or not a dancer, seems you are a guy, so i see why you think the way you do.

Misandry?

Inquiring minds want to know.


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pinkpuff
12-04-2008, 06:19 PM
nope sorry to burst your bubble. but i love men...decent men that is. the men i am talking about are far from decent

glambman
12-04-2008, 06:38 PM
again, unfortunately this is not true of all, or even most men. hookers are at a much greater risk of getting killed than the average woman. a lot of men have a ton of pent up anger towards sex workers. some take out their anger by going to strip clubs every day and sitting with their arms crossed with an angry look on their face nursing a drink all night and insulting any dancer who dares ask them for a dance, while others go as far as to hire hookers so they can rape and torture them. A lot of men seem to be angry that most women can make money off of doing something they would gladly do for free. im not saying this is all men, but you cant say that all men are appreciative of sex workers. it is clear you or not a dancer, seems you are a guy, so i see why you think the way you do.

A lot of women hate men that don't just hand over their cash and gifts. Just go to HH and you can see all the 'how to from a sucker' threads. It is pretty clear you are one of them, you can't handle not getting paid for something a lot of men can get for free.

It' weird because you start off with 'a lot of men' for your condemnation of us, but then you state 'can't say all men are respectful'. The way you phrased them would seem to indicate that since some guys don't respect sex workers, you rationalize it to mean most men. Again, HH where men are thought of as walking ATM's.

Also, where exactly did you get your stats from?


nope sorry to burst your bubble. but i love men...decent men that is. the men i am talking about are far from decent

I bet the guys you are attracted to are not the 'decent' guys. But I also bet that if they are the pussified ones, that would give them a better chance.

Golden_Rule
12-04-2008, 07:50 PM
nope sorry to burst your bubble. but i love men...decent men that is. the men i am talking about are far from decent

You presume I have a bubble to burst.

I'm just asking a legit question given the rhetoric passing before my eyes. :)

The question then is why get so worked up over the indecent men. They should be few and far enough between to ignore. If you find that not to be the case, greater numbers would make it even more suitable a posture simply to ignore them in favor of the fewer you find more readily suitable for your attentions.

bsteve
12-04-2008, 07:58 PM
A lot of women hate men that don't just hand over their cash and gifts. Just go to HH and you can see all the 'how to from a sucker' threads.
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Again, HH where men are thought of as walking ATM's.


Yeah, I sometimes read HH, and it turns my stomach. It often appears that dancers look at customers with a great deal of discust. It often appears that the question is not "how does a dancer work harder/smarter forthe customer to get more money", but "how do we get more money out of the customers." Customers are not very respected.

But unlike glabman, I do not view this an exhibition of misandry. I view it as an exhibition of lack of work ethic as a service provider. What I mean is that a stripper who views her customers with distain would likely view customers at a regular bar with distain if she were a waitress, or her patients with distain if she were a physician, or her pupils in class with distain if she were a school teacher.

FBR
12-04-2008, 10:08 PM
Yeah, I sometimes read HH, and it turns my stomach. It often appears that dancers look at customers with a great deal of discust. It often appears that the question is not "how does a dancer work harder/smarter forthe customer to get more money", but "how do we get more money out of the customers." Customers are not very respected.

But unlike glabman, I do not view this an exhibition of misandry. I view it as an exhibition of lack of work ethic as a service provider. What I mean is that a stripper who views her customers with distain would likely view customers at a regular bar with distain if she were a waitress, or her patients with distain if she were a physician, or her pupils in class with distain if she were a school teacher.

Steve dont dispair. Try and view it as an educational opportunity. Strippers want our money and will use all their wiles to get it...not exactly a news flash...but on the other hand a peek through their looking glass actually gives us the knowledge to become a better consumer and a better customer. From what I've seen over the years strippers would just as soon us not flame out but instead prefer that we keep it on point and business ie: X dollars for Y services whatever those services may. Dealing with us when we go PL just complicates things.

FBR

FBR
12-05-2008, 06:31 PM
We all enjoy a vigorous debate but not when the discussion devolves to name calling and personal attacks. That is not acceptable and just spoils it for those folks who want to contribute in a positive way and engage in interesting conversation. Keep your posts civil, on topic and non personal otherwise I will give out infractions.

Thank you.

FBR

threlayer
12-05-2008, 06:35 PM
^^ What he said. :)

Otoki
12-05-2008, 07:36 PM
Steve dont dispair. Try and view it as an educational opportunity. Strippers want our money and will use all their wiles to get it...not exactly a news flash...but on the other hand a peek through their looking glass actually gives us the knowledge to become a better consumer and a better customer. From what I've seen over the years strippers would just as soon us not flame out but instead prefer that we keep it on point and business ie: X dollars for Y services whatever those services may. Dealing with us when we go PL just complicates things.

FBR
Exactly. Steve, because it's HH, it is very focused on "how to make more money". Often, especially with the current economy, it is "how to make money out of cheap bastards who want the most bang for their buck/extras?" which might explain any hustle tips that are less-than-kind about the "marks". For the most part, though, the tips are about how to make the guy enjoy himself and want to spend money on the dancer, not tricking the guy out of money.

Also keep in mind that there are plenty of threads in the strippers only section that talk about what great customers we've encountered, or really nice things a particular customer did, etc.

Otoki
12-05-2008, 07:39 PM
We all enjoy a vigorous debate but not when the discussion devolves to name calling and personal attacks. That is not acceptable and just spoils it for those folks who want to contribute in a positive way and engage in interesting conversation. Keep your posts civil, on topic and non personal otherwise I will give out infractions.

Thank you.

FBR
Is there a way to put members on ignore? That would be really useful for these sorts of situations.

glambman
12-05-2008, 08:01 PM
Is there a way to put members on ignore? That would be really useful for these sorts of situations.


Click on the Users name then view public profile. Under their name, there are 2 options: click on user lists, then click the add to ignore.

GentlemanX
12-06-2008, 02:55 AM
Ladies, it amazes me sometimes when NFL Quarterbacks throw interceptions. It all seems so elementary. It's attitude. Classic example: I was watching a game and this QB was on the field who wasn't the most athletic in terms of classic athleticism. He was athletic in his own way, but just a rung or two below the other athletes on the field. Yet, he owned the opposing team's defense. It's not that he was a great athlete; it was his attitude. He knew exactly where to throw the ball to open recievers for touchdowns. So you see, it isn't that hard to make a good living as an NFL Quarterback.[/quote]

Otoki
12-06-2008, 04:15 PM
Click on the Users name then view public profile. Under their name, there are 2 options: click on user lists, then click the add to ignore.
Thanks.

elizabeth20042007
12-07-2008, 12:05 PM
I don't get the sense of entitlement...especially since I am not only a dancer but I'm a customer...It's a BUSINESS...not some kind of free for all, if you want a beautiful girl to dance on you for free or $10 get a girlfriend who has some kind of glam stripper fantasy. And yeah strippers lie, it's wrong but how many times have you bought a car or some high end item and got lied or manipulated by the seller?

I don't empathize with customers half the time...because most of the time they can't seem to grasp that this is a BUSINESS in which we are looking to SELL and MAKE MONEY. And they don't respect me or what I do. I'm not doing this shit for free...I could and it'd be fun, but if can make money and have fun then why the hell would I do it for free?

I definitely respect my customers where respect is due..but I'm the one in control, not them...I can offer them a menu and if they don't want anything on it, it's fine but they can't disrespect me because I'm not offering what they want. Are you gonna go in a Japanese restaurant and get pissed cause they don't have cheeseburgers? I don't think they are desperate or pathetic or below me...only when they come thinking they're going to treat me like shit. I believe in balance and if someone comes in thinking they can treat me however they want they're going to be in for a rude awakening. I have respect for my customers and I expect the same respect back. But some guys are losers and don't deserve my respect but make no mistake I take their green anyways. But that's definitely not most customers from my experience at least.

Yep, I'm a bitch. Hahahahaha. Anyways that's what I think, no stress on anybody.

FBR
12-07-2008, 12:11 PM
Thread has been dusted.

Was I unclear when I said previously:



We all enjoy a vigorous debate but not when the discussion devolves to name calling and personal attacks. That is not acceptable and just spoils it for those folks who want to contribute in a positive way and engage in interesting conversation. Keep your posts civil, on topic and non personal otherwise I will give out infractions.

Thank you.

FBR

I must insist that if you would like this thread to remain open for all to enjoy you will need to abide by my reasonable request.

Thank you,
FBR

Mr. Happy
12-07-2008, 01:51 PM
From a newbie: it's nice to find a board moderated well! Thank you FBR. BTW - This community is great. I'm doing a lot of reading before I post a classic newbie post.

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In an attempt to realign the thread: "Men are so easy."

My reply: "And your point is?" 8)

Actually... seriously... I just read the first few posts and some recent ones. Two trigger words caught my eye: "entitlement" and "control." It's interesting to look at these from the stripper's and the custie's perspective.

IMHO, entitlement needs to be checked at the door for both dancer and customer. It's certainly reasonable for both to have expectations of each other, (respect being at the top of the list) but when entitlement enters the room, it usually just plays out poorly.

The thing about control... have you ever watched a situation when the dancer and the customer both feel they are the person in control and either one or both of them give it away and not even realize it?

If I place myself in a postion where I give a total stranger the ability to piss me off, I have lost control because I have actually given the other person permission to piss me off. For example, I sometimes get pissed at bad drivers, and then sometimes ask myself why I just let a total stranger put me in a bad mood.

Oh crap, did I have a point to all this? Oh yeah, I thought as a newbie I would set myself up for flames. 8) More later... I gotta go for now. :)

MH

Phil-W
12-07-2008, 02:44 PM
I don't empathize with customers half the time...because most of the time they can't seem to grasp that this is a BUSINESS in which we are looking to SELL and MAKE MONEY.

Or don't want to grasp that it is indeed a business.

Someone regularly coming into a SC and spending >$300 per visit is going to have to internally rationalize the purpose of that expenditure. The two basic options for a mental model they have are:

(a) This is a business and the dancer that I'm spending lots of $$$'s on is only giving me her time because I'm spending money on her.

or

(b) Although this is a business and although I'm spending $$$'s, this dancer has developed real affection for me. After another couple of visits, I'll be able to get her phone number and be able to see her OTC, and then it won't be a business relationship any more.

We all (internally) tend to rationalize things to maximize our self esteem. 'Believing' that mental model (b) is correct is a way for many customers to explain their expenditure to themselves.

I'm sure most customers know in their heart of hearts that (a) is the correct model, but if they consciously admit that to themselves, then their self esteem takes a hit - and suddenly their spending assumes another aspect.

An over simplification I know, but the psychology of the interaction between dancer and customer is a complex one. (And one that takes place in an arena with its own specific set of rules - which differ from the real world outside the SC).

Phil.