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kikidejavu
11-09-2008, 03:36 AM
wow. thats what mr. president elect was talking about when he told mccain that he just doesnt get it.
they just dont get it. its not their experience, and its so sad that people in the same country can have such totally different views of what is really going on.

^lol you considered giving your baby to obama? lol you have to explain.
i wish my mom would have gave me to him.....but then there would prob be the whole elecktra complex.....wanting to do daddy...damn daddy can i come sleep with you....and lick you....and can you tell mommy to move out? lmao

xsomnambulist
11-09-2008, 03:50 AM
Totally agreed, kiki. Race makes up a LOT of our experience and a difference in race means a difference in experience, even though some refuse to accept this.

Entire conversation, right here:
Me: My vag hurts
Me: Like I''m coming on my period
Chris : should you be
Chris : I didn't think you were due
Me: I should not be
Chris : are you secret pregnant face
Chris : it wouldn't surprise me from you
Me: No, not at all
Me: Haven't had sex or even seen a dick since I left you. [I'm back in CA for a little]
Chris : you would be the type to get pregnant then and have periods ever since
Me: lol THat would be my luck.
Me: ...but I would love it
Me: Seriously.
Chris : I wouldn't
Chris : seriously
Chris : how would be take care of that child
Me: I know.
Me: ...THE AUDACITY OF HOPE.
Me: HAWAII
Me: INDONESIA
Me: ...THE PRESIDENCY.
Me: O_O;
Me: AMIRITE
Me: OR AMIRITE
Chris : not really
Chris : we can't give the child to obama
Chris : he has 2 already
Me: Damn.
Me: DAMN.

But goddamn. Yeah, Electra complex all the way. *drools* But I mean, really -- why not go all the way?! Michelle's a hot piece, too. XD

kikidejavu
11-09-2008, 04:24 AM
lmao "damn, he has 2 already" lmao
i just had a conversation with my friends about how i would totally do michelle too! threesome!......lol and they're 44, 47 so im sure they know exactly what to do.... }:D
did you notice on tuesday how when he hugged her on stage, his arms just kind of rested on top of her booty? lol she got hips and ass for days.....lol
we are so wrong for thinking of our first family in this way! lmao!

xsomnambulist
11-09-2008, 04:43 AM
lmao "damn, he has 2 already" lmao
i just had a conversation with my friends about how i would totally do michelle too! threesome!......lol and they're 44, 47 so im sure they know exactly what to do.... }:D
did you notice on tuesday how when he hugged her on stage, his arms just kind of rested on top of her booty? lol she got hips and ass for days.....lol
we are so wrong for thinking of our first family in this way! lmao!

Whaaaaaaat? No, I didn't see, mostly because I was bustin' heads in the bar (I now realize that it wasn't the best place to go for election coverage ::)) because people were being way disrespectful, but daaayum. She's on point, for real. And I wouldn't be surprised if they've taken people home with 'em. ...bet I'll be right here waitin my turn. XD

lol I was talking to my mom yesterday and she goes "You know that's one first couple that gets DOWN. Have you seen some of the looks he gives her on stage? Like 'Imma get you when we get home.'"

Its not wrong -- that's just an attractive ass couple. :)

kikidejavu
11-09-2008, 04:55 AM
ive def seen those looks!! lol
we was joking that on tuesday michelle was going to come to bed in a french maid outfit, like "how can i be of service to you Mr. President?" lmao
damn. im jealous.

HoolaTwist
11-09-2008, 07:24 AM
As far as being black is concerned, "of African decent" usually suffices, since, you know, many of us were ripped from our homeland, records destroyed, had our native names and those of our children replaced with those deemed acceptable in America (I'll call it "America" to be PC for you guys, and avoid being pegged the dreaded "reverse-racist"), and many of us don't know where we have come from.

Luckily I do know where I come from, and I'm damn proud to flaunt my Nigerian name (although our native names are still frowned upon and called "ghetto") and my Nigerian heritage.


Do you realize that your very own people sold you off to be shipped as slaves to Amereica? There are still black "kings" and whatnot with their own slaves in Africa today. You are prejudiced against your own, judging each other by skin tone and fuck knows what else. I am so sick and tired of white people being blamed for everything when you guys can't even keep it together.

And what's with the gay hate in the African American community? Hypocrites.

HoolaTwist
11-09-2008, 07:29 AM
what are you proud of for being white? i'm curious? what is "white" and what are you proud of?

I mean I'm proud to be of Sicilian, Roma, and Native American descent, but to say you are proud to be "white", I am confused.

Being white, maybe you aren't the one to say "enough with the black/white issues." Maybe people who aren't white would like that discussion to remain open.


You truly are derenged. It's militant fucks like you that make me question everything. I once punched a guy in a bar because he called someone a "nigger" Little old me, against a big ol' huge skinhead. But reading this drivel is making me think twice now.

I'm now proud to be white, blonde, blue eyed of European decent. I love the fact that my people are the inventors of fine literature, fine wine, fine art etc. Don't make me go on.

thelovelylenee
11-09-2008, 07:33 AM
and you're allowed to be^^^ but why say things like "you guys can't even keep together " WE as a whole cannot get it together , as a HUMAN RACE cannot get it together ...show me ANY group of people that "has got it all together"

Miss_Luscious
11-09-2008, 09:47 AM
did you notice on tuesday how when he hugged her on stage, his arms just kind of rested on top of her booty? lol she got hips and ass for days.....lol
we are so wrong for thinking of our first family in this way! lmao!

I notice that all the time. He is forever touching her booty. I have picture that someone took from behind and he s grabbing a good chunk of ass. Who wouldn't? That woman has a very nice shape. I mean damn Michelle, can I borrow some ass?



lol I was talking to my mom yesterday and she goes "You know that's one first couple that gets DOWN. Have you seen some of the looks he gives her on stage? Like 'Imma get you when we get home.'"


I told my husband that Obama proably got the best head EVER the night he won. You konw she was more than willing to suck the dick of the most poweful man in the world. Hell, I'd get in line for that! I would fuck the hell put of that man and Michelle too. They both can get it!



And what's with the gay hate in the African American community? Hypocrites.

The rest of our post was just dumb ("We" can't get it together?) but I agree with you on the anti-gay sentiments in the balck community. It's a religious thing though (many black people are very religious) so it's not like black's hate gas, it's religious people who happen to be black hate gays.



I'm now proud to be white, blonde, blue eyed of European decent. I love the fact that my people are the inventors of fine literature, fine wine, fine art etc. Don't make me go on.

Hm...the same logic can be applied to people with brown eyes. Let's try:

I'm now proud to be brown-eyed, brunette of American decent. I love the fact that my people are the inventors of fine literature, fine wine, fine art etc. Don't make me go on.

See? I can tout the accomplishments of brown eyed people all day long and say how they are grat because for what they have done. And by the way, us brown-eyed people have contributed way more to society to you blue-eyed people. You all can't get it together. I'm proud to have brown eyes and I'm proud of the culture all brown eyed people share.
::)

Race has nothing to do with anything but color and physical features. And in just a few generations, a family tree can go from being "white" to being "black". If a white woman has babaies with a black man, the baby is 50/50. If that offspring has a baby with a black person, the resulting child will be 25/75. If that person goes on the have a baby with a black person, you won't be able to see the white anymore at all as the mix is near 0/100. This is very very oversimplified but it really shows how little race matters and how easily changable it is. I'm a product of such a thing as my great grandma was a white lady but my cousins are all little chocolates now. It only took 3 generations to create blackness from whiteness.

So can I claim the same "white pride" you do because I do have a white great grand or is that reserved for the blue-eyed blonde haired whites? How white do you have to be to have this pride?

Lady
11-09-2008, 11:20 AM
what are you proud of for being white? i'm curious? what is "white" and what are you proud of?

I mean I'm proud to be of Sicilian, Roma, and Native American descent, but to say you are proud to be "white", I am confused.

Being white, maybe you aren't the one to say "enough with the black/white issues." Maybe people who aren't white would like that discussion to remain open.

ok, but if I said I was proud to be black, I would be praised, BS!

Lady
11-09-2008, 11:31 AM
Um, you posted this:
once again someone taking a very small snip of an entire post to prove the point ... go ahead, show us the REST of the post. I was not the one to bring up socialism ... thanks anyway.

Lady
11-09-2008, 11:41 AM
As far as being black is concerned, "of African decent" usually suffices, since, you know, many of us were ripped from our homeland, records destroyed, had our native names and those of our children replaced with those deemed acceptable in America (I'll call it "America" to be PC for you guys, and avoid being pegged the dreaded "reverse-racist"), and many of us don't know where we have come from.

Luckily I do know where I come from, and I'm damn proud to flaunt my Nigerian name (although our native names are still frowned upon and called "ghetto") and my Nigerian heritage.


So, why dont you get the "destroyed records" straight for us. Exactly what homw were you "RIPPED" from .. or were you born in the US? I would do a poll, but I think it is clear that clost to ... say ... 98% of Americans came here willingly, or were born here. The 2% that came here unwillingly I think were probably forced by their parents.
You cant blame people today for things that happened ages ago. Believe it or not, we are not the ones who did it.

Jabba_WTF?
11-09-2008, 11:43 AM
Ok, so is the major problem here one of pride in one's own racial heritage,
or in the possible "supremacist" view some might be feeling?
I'm proud to be Irish/German, & 2 types of Native American.
I have never felt like I'm better than anyone though.

Jabba_WTF?
11-09-2008, 11:49 AM
So, why dont you get the "destroyed records" straight for us. Exactly what homw were you "RIPPED" from .. or were you born in the US? I would do a poll, but I think it is clear that clost to ... say ... 98% of Americans came here willingly, or were born here. The 2% that came here unwillingly I think were probably forced by their parents.
You cant blame people today for things that happened ages ago. Believe it or not, we are not the ones who did it.
...were born here doesnt make it willing.
The major reason we have this issue is European slavers & slaves coming & being brought here in the first place.
Plus the larger group on any boat would have been the slaves,
cuffed in the bottom of the boat, with a small crew of sailors topside.
So saying 98% came here willingly is just not going to be true.
If it weren't for that, then only half of me would exist here.
I agree with the last part though. We are not the same people our ancestors were.

Lady
11-09-2008, 11:55 AM
In all honesty, I think this is healthy. Ther is nothing wrong with us debating the different views that everyone has. race is a very tabbo subject and being on a forum allows us to discuss it without as much reservation as we would have in a face to face conversation. Talking about differences and racial issues, and political views is the only way to understand the oposing veiw point.
Yes some people have gotten down right hate ful calling ppl stupid and ignorant because they think differently than they do. But all in all, as long as we can keep the personal insults and crap out of it, I think this is healthy

Lady
11-09-2008, 11:57 AM
...were born here doesnt make it willing.
The major reason we have this issue is European slavers & slaves coming & being brought here in the first place.
Plus the larger group on any boat would have been the slaves,
cuffed in the bottom of the boat, with a small crew of sailors topside.
So saying 98% came here willingly is just not going to be true.
If it weren't for that, then only half of me would exist here.
I agree with the last part though. We are not the same people our ancestors were.
If you ahve that much resentment for being brought here in the first place, nobody is keeping you here now. You are free to go back to whatever country your ancestors came from.

Jabba_WTF?
11-09-2008, 12:07 PM
If you ahve that much resentment for being brought here in the first place, nobody is keeping you here now. You are free to go back to whatever country your ancestors came from.
/:O lol, now that's just funny.
If you're responding to me only, then please check out my other posts.
I'm not angry.
I did say my ancestors CAME here. Not that they were brought here.
So please dont assume anything before you post.

Lady
11-09-2008, 12:17 PM
xsomnambulist is the original one that showed anger for being forced to be here

. Originally Posted by xsomnambulist
As far as being black is concerned, "of African decent" usually suffices, since, you know, many of us were ripped from our homeland, records destroyed, had our native names and those of our children replaced with those deemed acceptable in America (I'll call it "America" to be PC for you guys, and avoid being pegged the dreaded "reverse-racist"), and many of us don't know where we have come from.

Luckily I do know where I come from, and I'm damn proud to flaunt my Nigerian name (although our native names are still frowned upon and called "ghetto") and my Nigerian heritage.


So I responded ... in shich you choose to respond to the post stating:So, why dont you get the "destroyed records" straight for us. Exactly what homw were you "RIPPED" from .. or were you born in the US? I would do a poll, but I think it is clear that clost to ... say ... 98% of Americans came here willingly, or were born here. The 2% that came here unwillingly I think were probably forced by their parents.
You cant blame people today for things that happened ages ago. Believe it or not, we are not the ones who did it.


But YOU said :

...were born here doesnt make it willing.
The major reason we have this issue is European slavers & slaves coming & being brought here in the first place.
Plus the larger group on any boat would have been the slaves,
cuffed in the bottom of the boat, with a small crew of sailors topside.
So saying 98% came here willingly is just not going to be true.
If it weren't for that, then only half of me would exist here.
I agree with the last part though. We are not the same people our ancestors were.


Let me bold this for you .. the major reason we have this issue ....

So how are you going to say that your ancestors came here, were not brought here, and then say were born here, doesnt make it willing ..... Well, if your jsut talking about being born here .. lol, I hate to break it to you, but no body gets to CHOOSE where they are born. :)

Once again, if you feel your ancestors were wronged and forced to come here, and you do not feel you shoudl have to live here, then dont. Go whereever. You can go to where your heritage is from or somewhere else. Nobody is stopping you. But I seriously doubt that the ppl that preach that they were FORCED to come here are ever going to leave.

LizardQueen
11-09-2008, 12:20 PM
The racism is thread is so obvious. Really, Hoola, you can't see at ALL how you sound like a racist? Like, at all? Or at least completely oblivious to race issues and almost all of US history?

It is generally more acceptable for blacks to be "proud" of their skin since for almost all of the history of the existence of this country they were denied that pride.

Whites, well... we've rolled around in our sweet-smelling shit long enough. When you've always had the upper hand you just kind of look like a jackass talking about how proud you are.


BTW: Black Americans (besides the ones that immigrated freely here from Africa, Haiti, the UK, or wherever) are the only group of people who did not come here of free will. Regardless, they are as thoroughly American, if not moreso, than anyone else and I understand a little resentment for the struggle it has been to come to the state of relative peace and equality that we have today.

Jabba_WTF?
11-09-2008, 12:24 PM
xsomnambulist is the original one that showed anger for being forced to be here

. Originally Posted by xsomnambulist
As far as being black is concerned, "of African decent" usually suffices, since, you know, many of us were ripped from our homeland, records destroyed, had our native names and those of our children replaced with those deemed acceptable in America (I'll call it "America" to be PC for you guys, and avoid being pegged the dreaded "reverse-racist"), and many of us don't know where we have come from.

Luckily I do know where I come from, and I'm damn proud to flaunt my Nigerian name (although our native names are still frowned upon and called "ghetto") and my Nigerian heritage.


So I responded ... in shich you choose to respond to the post stating:So, why dont you get the "destroyed records" straight for us. Exactly what homw were you "RIPPED" from .. or were you born in the US? I would do a poll, but I think it is clear that clost to ... say ... 98% of Americans came here willingly, or were born here. The 2% that came here unwillingly I think were probably forced by their parents.
You cant blame people today for things that happened ages ago. Believe it or not, we are not the ones who did it.


But YOU said :

...were born here doesnt make it willing.
The major reason we have this issue is European slavers & slaves coming & being brought here in the first place.
Plus the larger group on any boat would have been the slaves,
cuffed in the bottom of the boat, with a small crew of sailors topside.
So saying 98% came here willingly is just not going to be true.
If it weren't for that, then only half of me would exist here.
I agree with the last part though. We are not the same people our ancestors were.


Let me bold this for you .. the major reason we have this issue ....

So how are you going to say that your ancestors came here, were not brought here, and then say were born here, doesnt make it willing ..... Well, if your jsut talking about being born here .. lol, I hate to break it to you, but no body gets to CHOOSE where they are born. :)

Once again, if you feel your ancestors were wronged and forced to come here, and you do not feel you shoudl have to live here, then dont. Go whereever. You can go to where your heritage is from or somewhere else. Nobody is stopping you. But I seriously doubt that the ppl that preach that they were FORCED to come here are ever going to leave.
No seriously. Go read my other posts.
In one of many threads I pointed out the fact that I'm Irish/German/Cherokee/Blackfoot.
Sadly one of the few types of ancestry I dont have is African.
So I never once said I dont belong here.
I never said I want to leave. I was making a point.
But I'm thinkin' you are letting your agrivation get the best of you.
(Also, making things bold doesnt make it clearer; just more easily seen.)

LizardQueen
11-09-2008, 12:27 PM
(Also, making things bold doesnt make it clearer; just more easily seen.)

I like the attitude. Real cute. ::)

I think she's fully aware of how she wants to format and emphasize her own posts, thanks.

Jabba_WTF?
11-09-2008, 12:30 PM
I like the attitude. Real cute. ::)

I think she's fully aware of how she wants to format and emphasize her own posts, thanks.
I never told her how to post. Just making a point.

davka
11-09-2008, 12:44 PM
Viola, fuck off. I am not militant. I am beyond frustrated. People saying this election was only based on race and how disappointing that is and NOBODY thinks it's strange that every president has been white and male, as if those elections weren't based on race. When the race in question is normative and the majority, we think race doesn't exist. When people of color vote for another person of color, we start claiming that people only voted based on race- as if this isn't always a factor for everyone. This election is the turning point. But the fact is that every president has been white and male until now and THAT is not a coincidence.

Americans aren't afraid of people of color? Black men are portrayed as criminals, public enemy number one. We offer no cultural space where black men can express their fear of white cops, white people, etc- but everywhere you look you have black men being portrayed as inherently criminal. That's fear based cultural productions.

Latino immigrants are portrayed as dirty leeches. Arab Americans are feared as terrorists. Asians are "Other"'ed as smart, passive, and alien.

I am getting frustrated in this thread because white people are pretending that this isn't real or significant, which means you are just trying to silence the reality and experience of a lot of people who need to be heard. It pisses me off greatly. Just like it pisses me off when guys tell me sexism isn't real or stripper-hatred isn't real, that sex workers aren't stigmatized.

A movie on tv right now- there is a dead, murdered hooker and a criminal black male. Look around you and imagine living with these stereotypes.

I just want people to admit it's real and it matters and to be sad and angry.

I am glad this election was "based on race." because lots of things are and finally people have to see it and talk about it. When white people say "we don't see race," it only means, "we dont experience or pay attention to racism because it doesnt happen to us and so it can't be real because only what happens to us is important."

Jabba_WTF?
11-09-2008, 12:58 PM
Viola, fuck off. I am not militant. I am beyond frustrated. People saying this election was only based on race and how disappointing that is and NOBODY thinks it's strange that every president has been white and male, as if those elections weren't based on race. When the race in question is normative and the majority, we think race doesn't exist. When people of color vote for another person of color, we start claiming that people only voted based on race- as if this isn't always a factor for everyone. This election is the turning point. But the fact is that every president has been white and male until now and THAT is not a coincidence.

Americans aren't afraid of people of color? Black men are portrayed as criminals, public enemy number one. We offer no cultural space where black men can express their fear of white cops, white people, etc- but everywhere you look you have black men being portrayed as inherently criminal. That's fear based cultural productions.

Latino immigrants are portrayed as dirty leeches. Arab Americans are feared as terrorists. Asians are "Other"'ed as smart, passive, and alien.

I am getting frustrated in this thread because white people are pretending that this isn't real or significant, which means you are just trying to silence the reality and experience of a lot of people who need to be heard. It pisses me off greatly. Just like it pisses me off when guys tell me sexism isn't real or stripper-hatred isn't real, that sex workers aren't stigmatized.

A movie on tv right now- there is a dead, murdered hooker and a criminal black male. Look around you and imagine living with these stereotypes.

I just want people to admit it's real and it matters and to be sad and angry.

I am glad this election was "based on race." because lots of things are and finally people have to see it and talk about it. When white people say "we don't see race," it only means, "we dont experience or pay attention to racism because it doesnt happen to us and so it can't be real because only what happens to us is important."
You want people to be sad & angry?
F*ck you.
How's that for angry?

Lady
11-09-2008, 12:58 PM
I coppied this from a different thread. But I would like it here as well.
I had lots of things weighing against me, but I still managed to make it. Obama had lots weighing against him, and he managed to make it. So just because you are put at a disadvantage does not mean that somehting isnt possible. The more people in your specific group, male, female, latino, black, white, asain, whatever, that just dont gripe about being disadvantaged and just suck it up and make the most out of life dispite their disadvantages, the better that entire group will be in the future.

as far as white people not knowing what its like to be black, ok whatever, and you dont knwo what it is like to be white, and niether group knows what it is like to be latino, and men dont know what it is like to be women and women dont know what it is like to be me. the grass is greener on the other side of the fence, right?
everyone should completly stop blamin ganything on their sex, race, religion. If you ahve a disadvantage, suck it up. Deal with it. You dont hear one legged ppl constantly screaming that they dont have it as good as two legged people. they suck it up and make the most out of it.
If you feel your are underprivlaged or cant do something becase of your race. Why dont you do somehting about it. Yeah, it might be alittle harder for you than others, but bitching isnt going to change anything. Just suck it up and get what you want and stop feeling sorry for your self.

LizardQueen
11-09-2008, 01:07 PM
Viola, fuck off. I am not militant. I am beyond frustrated. People saying this election was only based on race and how disappointing that is and NOBODY thinks it's strange that every president has been white and male, as if those elections weren't based on race. When the race in question is normative and the majority, we think race doesn't exist. When people of color vote for another person of color, we start claiming that people only voted based on race- as if this isn't always a factor for everyone. This election is the turning point. But the fact is that every president has been white and male until now and THAT is not a coincidence.

Americans aren't afraid of people of color? Black men are portrayed as criminals, public enemy number one. We offer no cultural space where black men can express their fear of white cops, white people, etc- but everywhere you look you have black men being portrayed as inherently criminal. That's fear based cultural productions.

Latino immigrants are portrayed as dirty leeches. Arab Americans are feared as terrorists. Asians are "Other"'ed as smart, passive, and alien.

I am getting frustrated in this thread because white people are pretending that this isn't real or significant, which means you are just trying to silence the reality and experience of a lot of people who need to be heard. It pisses me off greatly. Just like it pisses me off when guys tell me sexism isn't real or stripper-hatred isn't real, that sex workers aren't stigmatized.

A movie on tv right now- there is a dead, murdered hooker and a criminal black male. Look around you and imagine living with these stereotypes.

I just want people to admit it's real and it matters and to be sad and angry.

I am glad this election was "based on race." because lots of things are and finally people have to see it and talk about it. When white people say "we don't see race," it only means, "we dont experience or pay attention to racism because it doesnt happen to us and so it can't be real because only what happens to us is important."

Damn you are hot. I mean awesome! ahaha.

kikidejavu
11-09-2008, 01:09 PM
^^^ lady, nobody is bitching. if we are strippers we are clearly not sitting on our ass complaining, and waiting on the world to change. we are clearly working towards improving our lives.
what sounds like complaints, is actually an attempt to inform others of the disadvantages blacks face. this is because people seem to be oblivious. If they didnt seem oblivious no one would take the time to "complain" ie explain.

Lady
11-09-2008, 01:17 PM
sorry, but I ahve to say it .. and this is meant as a JOKE .. dont take it seriously.

I am glad to hear all those black men that have been being talked about that are being held back have decided to strip for a pro-active stance on their future.

jhehehhehhe
I can jsut see a bunch of big muscly black dudes wering my thongs, heels and two pieces very funny mental image.

LizardQueen
11-09-2008, 01:18 PM
*facepalm + headdesk = the rare and epic facedesk

davka
11-09-2008, 02:35 PM
Lady haha i didn't mean that! :) I was comparing two examples of people stigmatized.

lizardqueen:):)

kikidejavu
11-09-2008, 02:38 PM
sorry, but I ahve to say it .. and this is meant as a JOKE .. dont take it seriously.

I am glad to hear all those black men that have been being talked about that are being held back have decided to strip for a pro-active stance on their future.

jhehehhehhe
I can jsut see a bunch of big muscly black dudes wering my thongs, heels and two pieces very funny mental image.

i realize this was a "joke" however where have you heard a black man say that?

xsomnambulist
11-09-2008, 02:57 PM
xsomnambulist is the original one that showed anger for being forced to be here



UHM, no, not anger at being here, miss, just tellin' how it is. I mean, if you really think that I'm angry about being here, show me where I wrote it. Please. Please, I'm begging you. Provide me with the evidence. [EDIT: I'm hoping you don't disappoint me here. Any other time that I've asked for proof in these related threads, I've never gotten any, mostly because there is none, but I'm hoping that SOMEONE has SOMETHING to back up their silly claims. ::)] I'll spell out my feelings. If I wanted to be elsewhere, I would have written so. You don't know me well enough (or at all, for that matter) to assume these things about me.

No one is forcing me to be anywhere. She wanted to know what being black was, I told her. In that post, I was not blaming anyone in the present day for anything, except dismissing our African names as 'ghetto (again, feel free to prove the contrary).' If you truly read it for content and not looking for me to fit some assumption you probably had, you would know that, and anything you're taking beyond that is on you.

Get it straight, or leave it alone, seriously.

xsomnambulist
11-09-2008, 03:00 PM
Do you realize that your very own people sold you off to be shipped as slaves to Amereica? There are still black "kings" and whatnot with their own slaves in Africa today. You are prejudiced against your own, judging each other by skin tone and fuck knows what else. I am so sick and tired of white people being blamed for everything when you guys can't even keep it together.

And what's with the gay hate in the African American community? Hypocrites.

You're...wow.


You're a real gem.

xsomnambulist
11-09-2008, 03:01 PM
sorry, but I ahve to say it .. and this is meant as a JOKE .. dont take it seriously.

I am glad to hear all those black men that have been being talked about that are being held back have decided to strip for a pro-active stance on their future.

jhehehhehhe
I can jsut see a bunch of big muscly black dudes wering my thongs, heels and two pieces very funny mental image.

*listens for the crickets*

xsomnambulist
11-09-2008, 03:07 PM
So, why dont you get the "destroyed records" straight for us. Exactly what homw were you "RIPPED" from .. or were you born in the US? I would do a poll, but I think it is clear that clost to ... say ... 98% of Americans came here willingly, or were born here. The 2% that came here unwillingly I think were probably forced by their parents.
You cant blame people today for things that happened ages ago. Believe it or not, we are not the ones who did it.

...And this one is just laughable.

LEIGH_LANDON
11-09-2008, 03:23 PM
what about trying to be proactive instead of reactive?

what can we do NOW to help this get to a better place. sincerely. please dont bash me I am being sincere. (This is a scary thread.)

sexyjasmine
11-09-2008, 03:38 PM
wow some of these posts are out of this world... Next time when I make a thread like this I will make sure I say positive responses only! in order to prevent some of this stupidity...someone really said your own people sold you out to amereica <<<<<where the hell is amereica? lol just tryna make light of this craziness. This whole thread just needs to be left alone honestly

ViolaStrings
11-09-2008, 04:08 PM
You're...wow.


You're a real gem.

HoolaTwist is right about the part where it was other Africans who were the ones who captured people to be sold into slavery. They were captured as far as middle Africa, and marched to the coast. Europeans did little to none of the trapping and kidnapping. They waited at the ports and bought them from the black capturers, and had little physical contact with the slaves because people born in Africa are exposed to endemic diseases at a young age, and therefore have immunities that European slave traders did not. The entire slave trade would not have been possible if it were not for blacks capturing other blacks. The Europeans would have died in droves.

The kind of slavery practiced in tribal kingdoms of Africa is VERY different from European/Caribbean/American slavery. In Africa, slaves were treated well and almost considered part of the family. Other than freedom, they retain basic human rights. They or their children often intermarry with the family of their owners. There was no breaking down of the family structure, systematic abuse, institutionalized rape, etc. The kind of slavery practiced outside of Africa is called chattel slavery, chattel meaning livestock. In that system, obviously, people are treated as animals.

Slavery is not just a white people's business.

HoolaTwist
11-09-2008, 04:09 PM
You're...wow.


You're a real gem.

Clearly you don't know your history. But if it was as painful as that, I wouldn't want to know it anyway.

HoolaTwist
11-09-2008, 04:11 PM
I notice that all the time. He is forever touching her booty. I have picture that someone took from behind and he s grabbing a good chunk of ass. Who wouldn't? That woman has a very nice shape. I mean damn Michelle, can I borrow some ass?



I told my husband that Obama proably got the best head EVER the night he won. You konw she was more than willing to suck the dick of the most poweful man in the world. Hell, I'd get in line for that! I would fuck the hell put of that man and Michelle too. They both can get it!



The rest of our post was just dumb ("We" can't get it together?) but I agree with you on the anti-gay sentiments in the balck community. It's a religious thing though (many black people are very religious) so it's not like black's hate gas, it's religious people who happen to be black hate gays.



Hm...the same logic can be applied to people with brown eyes. Let's try:

I'm now proud to be brown-eyed, brunette of American decent. I love the fact that my people are the inventors of fine literature, fine wine, fine art etc. Don't make me go on.

See? I can tout the accomplishments of brown eyed people all day long and say how they are grat because for what they have done. And by the way, us brown-eyed people have contributed way more to society to you blue-eyed people. You all can't get it together. I'm proud to have brown eyes and I'm proud of the culture all brown eyed people share.
::)

Race has nothing to do with anything but color and physical features. And in just a few generations, a family tree can go from being "white" to being "black". If a white woman has babaies with a black man, the baby is 50/50. If that offspring has a baby with a black person, the resulting child will be 25/75. If that person goes on the have a baby with a black person, you won't be able to see the white anymore at all as the mix is near 0/100. This is very very oversimplified but it really shows how little race matters and how easily changable it is. I'm a product of such a thing as my great grandma was a white lady but my cousins are all little chocolates now. It only took 3 generations to create blackness from whiteness.

So can I claim the same "white pride" you do because I do have a white great grand or is that reserved for the blue-eyed blonde haired whites? How white do you have to be to have this pride?

Omfg you're an idiot.. I didn't say ONLY BLUE EYED PEOPLE accomplished great things, I said white Europens. Maybe you didn't understand maybe I didn't write it clearly.

xsomnambulist
11-09-2008, 04:12 PM
HoolaTwist is right about the part where it was other Africans who were the ones who captured people to be sold into slavery. They were captured as far as middle Africa, and marched to the coast. Europeans did little to none of the trapping and kidnapping. They waited at the ports and bought them from the black capturers, and had little physical contact with the slaves because people born in Africa are exposed to endemic diseases at a young age, and therefore have immunities that European slave traders did not. The entire slave trade would not have been possible if it were not for blacks capturing other blacks. The Europeans would have died in droves.

The kind of slavery practiced in tribal kingdoms of Africa is VERY different from European/Caribbean/American slavery. In Africa, slaves were treated well and almost considered part of the family. Other than freedom, they retain basic human rights. They or their children often intermarry with the family of their owners. There was no breaking down of the family structure, systematic abuse, institutionalized rape, etc. The kind of slavery practiced outside of Africa is called chattel slavery, chattel meaning livestock. In that system, obviously, people are treated as animals.

Slavery is not just a white people's business.

Never said she was wrong, Viola. Never did. I know the history, but thanks for the very, very, very, very basic rehash. ::) That last part, however, negates any validity she could have ever had, in my mind.

xsomnambulist
11-09-2008, 04:13 PM
Omfg you're an idiot.. I didn't say ONLY BLUE EYED PEOPLE accomplished great things, I said white Europens. Maybe you didn't understand maybe I didn't write it clearly.

Yeah! Only white Europeans accomplished great things! Duh!

xsomnambulist
11-09-2008, 04:14 PM
Clearly you don't know your history. But if it was as painful as that, I wouldn't want to know it anyway.

I do know my history, thank you. But its nice to know that you'd rather be ignorant, if you had a painful history, than to enlighten yourself.

HoolaTwist
11-09-2008, 04:14 PM
The racism is thread is so obvious. Really, Hoola, you can't see at ALL how you sound like a racist? Like, at all? Or at least completely oblivious to race issues and almost all of US history?

It is generally more acceptable for blacks to be "proud" of their skin since for almost all of the history of the existence of this country they were denied that pride.

Whites, well... we've rolled around in our sweet-smelling shit long enough. When you've always had the upper hand you just kind of look like a jackass talking about how proud you are.


BTW: Black Americans (besides the ones that immigrated freely here from Africa, Haiti, the UK, or wherever) are the only group of people who did not come here of free will. Regardless, they are as thoroughly American, if not moreso, than anyone else and I understand a little resentment for the struggle it has been to come to the state of relative peace and equality that we have today.

Yes, white people are just all orn with a silver spoon in their mouth. We get everything handed to us. Never did we struggle. Only the blacks did, ever. I'm also part jewish asshole. And sooooooo proud of it. If that offends you, it makes me even happier.

HoolaTwist
11-09-2008, 04:16 PM
Yeah! Only white Europeans accomplished great things! Duh!

You reek of jealousy. It must suck being you, I understand. And no where did I say my race accomplished ALL of the great things. You should be proud and I have that same right though. Don't hate.

HoolaTwist
11-09-2008, 04:16 PM
I do know my history, thank you.

Then you are denying your own people sold you off??

xsomnambulist
11-09-2008, 04:17 PM
Then you are denying your own people sold you off??

When did I deny it? Holy shit? Are you that daft?!

HoolaTwist
11-09-2008, 04:19 PM
Slavery was rampant in Africa and still to some extent, today as well. But nooooooooooooooooooooo, whites invented slavery! ::)

xsomnambulist
11-09-2008, 04:20 PM
You reek of jealousy. It must suck being you, I understand. And no where did I say my race accomplished ALL of the great things. You should be proud and I have that same right though. Don't hate.

Okay, let me tell you about myself: I'm half black American. My dad biracial -- half black Nigerian, half white Scottish. So I'm jealous of...what now? Am I jealous of not being white? The truth comes out! You're a sad, sad person, if you really think this.

If anything, people should be jealous of who I am, what I've seen, what I can claim to be, where I've been in my life. I'm not even going to lie: I've probably had it 20 times better than you in my life, and not because of the privileges most of you suppose that being black affords me. I'd be jealous of someone like me before I was jealous of a fucking race. You give white people a bad name.

xsomnambulist
11-09-2008, 04:22 PM
Slavery was rampant in Africa and still to some extent, today as well. But nooooooooooooooooooooo, whites invented slavery! ::)

I feel -so- sorry for you.