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doc-catfish
12-14-2008, 04:09 PM
I started seeing my fave off the premises because her club made it cost prohibitive to do business there. No sense in me spending my money only to have two thirds the fun I can have at some other club, and where she would only pocket two-thirds of the money if I did.
OTC is the way to go, it weeds out the dancers that don't like men.
I dunno Earl. I've had 5 OTC's that sprung from stripper relationships. All of them had daddy issues and am I am pretty sure would have been just as happy doing said activities with a woman. OTOH, I've had several ITC full extra relationships where they seemed to enjoy themselves but I am not so sure they particularly liked men either. So at best I think the jury will be out on your supposition for a long time.
FBR
safado
12-14-2008, 04:22 PM
OTC is the way to go, it weeds out the dancers that don't like men.
did you mean like men or "like men"?
Bob_Loblaw
12-14-2008, 04:53 PM
I can't really offer any insight here since I don't consciously offer any cues. 99% of the time, it will be the dancer who approaches me for a dance. In my twisted logic, dancers who do not approach me for dances are not doing so for a reason. Perhaps stereotypes based on what I'm wearing, my race, etc.? Maybe I stink? I dunno. In any case, there's something that is preventing her from approaching me so odds are dances would be less than enjoyable for either party. From my own experience, the ratio of good dances to poor dances is better when the dancer asks me for a dance than when I ask for a dance.
Plus, it's more my fear that I'm bothering people than my fear of rejection that keeps me from asking some people. I know customers are in the SC to be entertained, and I don't want to be an annoyance to them. Silly, but that's just me.
That makes sense. Keep in mind that most customers go into the club expecting to be asked for dances (customers planning to actually get dances is another issue altogether). If you approached customer A when he had no intention of buying a dance from you, there was nothing lost anyway. It just gets you closer to finding customer B who would be happy getting dances from you. The point is if you don't ask, you'll never know.
charlie61
12-14-2008, 05:25 PM
^^ True dat.
Earl_the_Pearl
12-15-2008, 08:53 AM
did you mean like men or "like men"?
They all "like men", I find OTC not only "like men" but like men. A good sign is when her vagina contracts and your tongue can touch her cervix.:-[
charlie61
12-15-2008, 02:10 PM
They all "like men", I find OTC not only "like men" but like men. A good sign is when her vagina contracts and your tongue can touch her cervix.:-[
I is confused. Sounds like you have a pretty negative view on strippers if you think that only the OTC strippers like men. That's pretty harsh.
Earl_the_Pearl
12-15-2008, 04:40 PM
I is confused. Sounds like you have a pretty negative view on strippers if you think that only the OTC strippers like men. That's pretty harsh.
I didn't mean it to sound that way. Of course every heterosexual dancer does not do OTC but very few lesbians do, IMHO. Empiric vaginal contractions formed my hypothesis.
Also, IMHO, lesbians make up a greater percentage of dancers then is found in the general population. :boxedin:
P.S. I love women, strippers included. I love them long time.
charlie61
12-15-2008, 05:03 PM
^^ What do lesbians have to do with this? What makes you think that lesbians don't like men? And what makes you think that lesbians would be less likely to meet OTC? (Actually, statistically, MANY prostitutes are lesbians--that's from a nonfiction source).
Vaginal contractions don't mean anything. I can contract my vagina without being turned on. You're sounding kooky.
Earl_the_Pearl
12-15-2008, 07:19 PM
I can contract my vagina without being turned on. You're sounding kooky.
She said "contract my vagina" :worship:. Can you also produce a heaver thicker lubricant at the same time then collapse in total relaxation :cloud9: as you lay in my arms? :hug:
Kooky? Of course, I hang out in strip clubs. :duck:
P.S. Dancers OTC don't consider it prostitution.
lopaw
12-15-2008, 09:20 PM
Of course every heterosexual dancer does not do OTC but very few lesbians do, IMHO.
I beg to differ.
I've had many lesbian OTC encounters.
My being a lesbian definitely helped in achieving this.
Also, IMHO, lesbians make up a greater percentage of dancers then is found in the general population.
Insert "bisexuals" instead of "lesbians" and you would be correct.
charlie61
12-16-2008, 12:21 AM
She said "contract my vagina" :worship:. Can you also produce a heaver thicker lubricant at the same time then collapse in total relaxation :cloud9: as you lay in my arms? :hug:
Kooky? Of course, I hang out in strip clubs. :duck:
P.S. Dancers OTC don't consider it prostitution.
Le sigh. I'm leaving this one alone.
As a side note, "kooky" might be the word of the day. But only if you over-emphasize the ooooo's. Say it with me. Kooooooky....
doc-catfish
12-16-2008, 08:25 AM
"Kookie, Kookie, lend me your comb. Kookie, Kookie?"
Sorry, couldn't resist. :rotfl:
charlie61
12-16-2008, 10:22 AM
^ It's a hell of a good word! Along with cooter. Hahaha. Kooky and cooter.
(Brain=fried from finals cramming...in case you couldn't tell.)
Earl_the_Pearl
12-18-2008, 01:44 AM
^ It's a hell of a good word! Along with cooter. Hahaha. Kooky and cooter.
(Brain=fried from finals cramming...in case you couldn't tell.)
Most dancers are working their way through collage. I offer scholarships even if one drooped out of High School. I love you for your mind. ::)
charlie61
12-18-2008, 08:27 AM
Most dancers are working their way through collage. I offer scholarships even if one drooped out of High School. I love you for your mind. ::)
I'm not working my way through college any more than the kid who works at Starbucks is working his way through college. All of the money I'm making now is being saved for potential future expenses.
Earl_the_Pearl
12-18-2008, 06:05 PM
I'm not working my way through college any more than the kid who works at Starbucks is working his way through college. All of the money I'm making now is being saved for potential future expenses.
Good for you. I have noticed most dancers don't have much to show from all of the money they made.
fishnet
12-18-2008, 11:07 PM
If I want a stripper I don't mess around...
FBR
Hahaha! As a recovering SCJ, I couldn't agree more! I surmise you are over thinking things Charlie. 70-90% of customers are not regulars. 3-4 years ago, I started a thread on how I thought customers should be approached. Since that is probably 20 years ago in SCJ time... it probably won't come up in a search.
Since most people in the club aren't regulars, it's up to you to approach on a personal level and accept the rejection from the non regulars. In the above referenced post I talked about my experience in real estate where you had to knock on a 100 doors to get 1 listing which at the time would net you $1500. Each no was worth $15 and that kept you going.
The first 5 times I went to a SC, I went with a buddy that was ultra cheap. The first five times I always hoped someone would ask me for a dance but no one did. Once I figured out I didn't want to just sit at the stage and had an idea who I wanted dances from, I went up by myself with a plan. Even though most of my my money was budgeted for an ATF, I always scouted and allowed funds for new talent. Those that go to spend will find you if they want you no matter how busy you are. Tipping DJs, bouncers and waitresses to get to you to dance are all SOPs if you can't be reached on stage.
There is no magic formula. For the newbs you have to convince them you are interested in them and enjoy talking to them even if they don't buy a dance. They'll remember you were nice and look for you next time. ;) It's called farming and was also adressed in my now ancient post. LOL.
FBR, I glad to see you are still here bud!!! :) Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! I'm going to have to stop lurking before I go off the wagon and things get expensive. :P
charlie61
12-19-2008, 11:50 AM
^ Haha...again, I wasn't looking for hustling advice.
I was looking for indications of personal displays of interest. Lots of guys THINK they're being obvious about displaying interest when they actually aren't, so I was asking the question based on this premise.
And yeah, I overthink everything.
charlie61
12-19-2008, 11:53 AM
Good for you. I have noticed most dancers don't have much to show from all of the money they made.
Reasons why many strippers don't save money:
1. "Mo' money, mo' problems."
2. "Money made fast is money spent fast."
I save 50%+ of what I make.
As a side note, the average American saves a negative amount of money (debt)--so it's not like strippers are the only ones who have problems saving money.
doc-catfish
12-19-2008, 02:42 PM
Fish, good to see you're still alive. A lots changed around here, but your TR thread has kept up with the times.
Reasons why many strippers don't save money:
1. "Mo' money, mo' problems."
2. "Money made fast is money spent fast."
I save 50%+ of what I make.
As a side note, the average American saves a negative amount of money (debt)--so it's not like strippers are the only ones who have problems saving money.
I would go a little further to say, the problem most strippers have with money stems from a young person being able to make great sums of cash without having the maturity in how to manage it wisely. If one would look at the behavior of some of our younger pro athletes/singers/movie stars, one might notice there's an eerily similar pattern. In the latter case, there's just more zeroes attached.
charlie61
12-20-2008, 02:37 AM
^^ Good call. It's definitely not a problem unique to stripping. People have this idea that strippers are all insane spenders...but our society is filled with insane spenders in all sorts of professions...
yoda57us
12-20-2008, 05:16 AM
P.S. Dancers OTC don't consider it prostitution.
LOL, you and Golden Rule must hang out with the same dancers!
Dude, if you are paying them it is prostitution. Not that there is anything wrong with that of course. It really doesn't matter what the woman involved considers it to be. It is what it is in the eyes of the law and society.
Most escorts don't call themselves prostitutes either but they damn well know what they are doing for a living. In my experience, so do dancers who do OTC.
Hey, whatever gets you and the ladies you see through the night is fine with me. For the record I don't go around calling any of the women I pay for sex prostitutes, whores, hookers or any other descriptive but again, I know what they are dong . I'm just really glad that they are doing it with me!
charlie61
12-20-2008, 05:19 PM
^^ :yes:
"A rose by any other name...."
fishnet
12-24-2008, 10:57 PM
^ Haha...again, I wasn't looking for hustling advice.
I was looking for indications of personal displays of interest. Lots of guys THINK they're being obvious about displaying interest when they actually aren't, so I was asking the question based on this premise.
And yeah, I overthink everything.
LOL. Sorry. It's just that I don't think any non regulars will give obvious signs they are displaying interest. ;) They will pretend not to be interested. Newbs that are uncomfortable in the environment, will glance or stare until you turn to look. Then they will put their head down or look away and hope you approach. :D Maybe that's the sign you should be looking for? Don't know. Those that "think" they are being obvious must be newbs!!! Anyone with a few trips under their belt won't let you hide even if you want to smoke in the dressing room all night. We will find you if we want you. There is no escaping those that want dances. FBR and other junkies know what I'm saying is true. :D We have mini GPS trackers we plant on all dancers we like during their stage routine. LOL J.K. :) DJs and bouncers will rat you out and hook us up where ever you are. Hahahaha.
Thanks Doc! I'm amazed how many familiar faces are still posting. :O
threlayer
12-27-2008, 01:00 AM
OP: Pretty simple, really.
After she's finished onstage, if that's where she be then, I just ask her if she has time for a VIP. She says: yes now _or_ yes after I'm done _or_ no. No fuss, no muss, no bother.
Smokeless
12-27-2008, 11:48 AM
I always tried to make my opening line have an emotional impact -- a risque remark or double entendre, a bold statement, a racy compliment, a sexually charged question or something playful. The objective of everything you say and do should be to intrigue the custy, to make him want to engage, to stimulate his sexual interest and imagination. Forget about saying anything that conveys actual meaning about something, as regular conversation does. It should all be focused on having an emotional impact, the way advertising is.
Excellent! I love it when a dancer thinks about the encounter and how best to "market" herself. It is actually rather flattering. And whether "artificial," if done with some thought, usually appears authentic.
Certainly much better than "Wanna dance?"
Thanks, Ev.
Smokeless
12-27-2008, 12:00 PM
There's another way of being noticed that doesn't seem to have been mentioned much here. (I've tried to skim most comments, but may have missed some...)
Spend money and be pleasant and engaging. The word gets around. Other dancers, waitresses, bartenders, and the house mom will pass the word. While some dancers might wish to claim you as their own and may not wish to share, others are more than happy to share "customer intelligence" with friends.
I also try to keep a good relationship with the house mom or doorman/woman, and they will often find or recommend a dancer, as the case warrants.
Once again, this is not a "pick up" situation where I'm there to find a mate or date or trying to attract the attention of a woman. I'm there as a customer to be served. When I'm looking for help in a hardware store, I don't stare at a customer service associate hoping that he'll spontaneously come to my aid. I go ask for help or ask a manager to find me help. No different here.
stressed
01-02-2009, 05:13 PM
It feels better when the dancer approaches you--and its really cool when you can get a dancer away from another table with playful stares and winks even funny faces at them.:flirt: it breaks the ice before you even talk to them. I have had a few dancers do this to me and i just picked up on it and have ran with it ever since.
i end up in clubs on thursday nights where ever my plane lands so it is usually not packed. if i do get into a packed club on an occasion i will go up to a dancer that i have my eye on and say something like i just got paid and looking for someone to spend it on---you have any suggestions. Depending on the response i either will have found a fun dancer:goodvibes and she banks good that night or i stack a couple and move on.
seriously though charlie if that is your picture and you get turned down:10:----there must be a lot of homos in your club. ever once in a while you will see a dancer that blows all your personal preferences aside---i love petite smart dark haired dancers and my favorite color is blue:flower:--but every once in a while a blonde or red head will blow all of that out of the water.
I might end up flying to sheboygan this year for a tour of one of the plants. if i do i would love to visit your club if it is not to far away......hope that doesnt creep you out--i just travel a lot and if i can get a good club recommendation that helps instead of research on line
charlie61
01-03-2009, 02:40 AM
^^ Aw, you're sweet.
No--I don't have any problems getting dances. But I'm always on the lookout for new and better ways to interact with my customers...which includes picking up on both subtle and blatant signs that they are/aren't interested in me. :-)
radar
01-03-2009, 03:49 AM
When a girl is not sitting with me, I have basically 3 options for my attention;
1. Watch the girl on stage. If it is a girl I am interested in, this will carry my attention, and I most likely will make my way up to tip her.
2. If there's a girl I'm interested in getting dances with, or a new girl I'm interested in meeting, I try the eye contact thing, and hope to mentally telepath my interest to her across the bar. Also give the slight upward nod of the head while gazing at her as well.
3. Check out whatever sporting event on the tvs. If I'm not into the stage girl, I'm not one to rudely gawk, so I would rather feign interest in the game. During Brewer season, I plant myself at a table with the best view of the game. I stage tip between innings, and if a girl of my liking joins me, we sneak away for a couple lappers at a time. The LD bouncer is pretty vocal when something exciting happens in the game, and he will update me when I come out.
Phil-W
01-03-2009, 08:17 AM
...I'm always on the lookout for new and better ways to interact with my customers...which includes picking up on both subtle and blatant signs that they are/aren't interested in me. :-)
I presume you're fairly clued up on body language. Which always (to me at least) has a big influence on which girls get dances and which don't.
I've always thought guys go for dancers who project 'horniness' - which can translate as fairly blatant (if not cartoon like) body language. The dancers that I know who earn almost caricature the 'attraction' signals. It's always looked pretty unreal to me, but it seems to work on a large percentage of the male of the species.
(Possibly because men are often poor at decoding body language - so they have to be hit over the head with the signal before they read it).
About 2 - 3 times a year, I'll end up talking about body language to a dancer and we'll decide a little practical experimentation is in order. That usually involves me explaining about the female attraction signals and the dancer going off to try them out on a few unsuspecting volunteers. I've often been surprised how quickly just knowing a few of the signals can turn a dancer from 'one of the pack' into one that attracts attention.
Phil.
charlie61
01-03-2009, 11:39 AM
^ Huh. That's interesting. I'll go study up! :-)
Hopper
05-03-2009, 10:18 AM
I was just reading up on the blue side's pet peeves for going to clubs...and one of the biggest ones concerned dancers who don't ask you for dances.
Obviously, there is a delicate balance of hustling in the club. Most girls don't want to go around to every single guy (I personally can't get shot down 90 times in a row without suffering a loss of confidence), and most customers don't want to be hustled by every stripper (it's annoying and time-consuming, etc.). So how can we better tell whether or not you're interested?
I know the really big ones: if you tip the girl more than a dollar on stage, if you ask her to come see you after her stage show, etc.
But I'm guessing that, as strippers in a busy environment, we miss a lot of signs that the guys think they're making obvious.
So what do you do? Stare at her? Or are the 'obvious' signs the only consistent ones?
Sorry if this seems like a stupid question. I'm just trying to tailor my hustle so I bother as few people as possible but still entertain those who want to pay for it.
List anything: what you do when you really AREN'T interested in the stripper, what you do when you really ARE interested? If you're one of those guys who doesn't approach the dancers for dances, then how do you (at least in your own head) indicate that you're interested?
Or feel free to refer me to another thread if this has already been discussed extensively before. :)
Yeah I look her over and make eye contact if possible but the dancer isn't looking my way half the time. Also don't mind walking over to her but often she's walking about so fast or partying on the spot and I have to run or jump about and I'm likely to get her elbow in my face before she sees me or twigs I'm interested. If she's with other guys it's awkward butting in and asking for LD in front of them. I don't do stage tips because I'm self-conscious about it - everyone's watching the stage usually of course. I do tip the girl off-stage if I get a chance. I'll flag a hostess or go find one if they are about. Sometimes they are busy too tho. There's all kinds of obstacles to our efforts to chase you up - you'd be surprised how difficult it's been for me at times.
If I'm not interested I'll avoid eye contact but after looking her over to decide if I like her of course.
Here's a trick that might work. Once this nice girl walked by me (about three metres away) on her way to a patron she had been sent to and she looked at me, stopped, turned part way toward me and assumed a seductive pose and gazed at me and pouted her lips, then continued on her way. Nice thing about it was the unobtrusive attention and the sexy piece of performing we expect at SCs. Clever thing about it was that she was putting herself right out there and at the same time giving herself a chance to guage my interest. By not approaching me, she wasn't risking a verbal rejection (or groping or some other nuisance behaviour) - though she might still get a negative reaction.
What would be nice is if you all approached each of us one or more times and just introduced yourself, be sexy and lay the offer on the table so that you don't have to risk getting rejected and we don't have to feel awkward about saying no to so many of you.
charlie61
05-03-2009, 11:52 AM
^ How does one lay the offer on the table without risking getting rejected?
Bob_Loblaw
05-03-2009, 03:17 PM
^^^ What Hopper is describing kinda sounds like a "Wanna dance?" approach without actually asking. Basically making yourself available for a guy to ask you for a dance instead of you asking him.
I would imagine this wouldn't be the best approach as you'd be spending time with guys who just want to sit and talk with you without intending on buying dances.
Hopper
05-03-2009, 08:38 PM
^ How does one lay the offer on the table without risking getting rejected?
What I was thinking of was rather than say "Would you like a private dance with me" it could be more like "Let me know if you want a private dance with me tonight". i.e. You are approaching him and giving him the opportunity to ask you for a lapdance or else making it known that you are "available" the rest of the night if he decides later. You are bringing it up and jogging him on it without putting him or yourself on the spot.
You are also giving him a little personal interaction - i.e. introducing yourself and allowing him to see you right up close and see what you are like personally. The number of times I've strained to see a girl across the room while she's traipsing about, obscured by the crowd or the low lights, not allowing me to see her face or see her from all angles etc - and not knowing at all what she's like in person or on close inspection. It's like a ghost sighting.
This approach may seem a bit limp, since "Would you like a private dance with me" is more direct and confident and provocative. But I'm not talking about what's best, I'm just giving you a way around the rejection limit and possible missed LD requests. i.e. it's better than nothing. Of course it is more direct and simple to just waltz over to each guy and say "would you like a private dance with me?"
You could lead into it with "do you know you can have private dances with any of the girls here you like", which might be less lame-sounding than "let me know" on it's own.
But really, what's lame about simply introducing yourself to patrons and informing them that you are available? It encourages them and puts them at ease with you and the idea of asking. You invited him yourself, right? That's probably a turn-on by itself. You could go back to each guy one or more times and subtly check on them in a similar fashion so that any who are interested don't lose you.
Like "stressed" said above: It's nice when the dancer approaches us - if we like you. But to me it can be a buzz taking the initiative and approaching the girl, which is what we do outside SCs anyway. Makes her happy. But it's not always easy to catch her, as I said before.
Hopper
05-03-2009, 08:43 PM
^^^ What Hopper is describing kinda sounds like a "Wanna dance?" approach without actually asking. Basically making yourself available for a guy to ask you for a dance instead of you asking him.
I would imagine this wouldn't be the best approach as you'd be spending time with guys who just want to sit and talk with you without intending on buying dances.
She doesn't need to stay with them any longer than she wants to. All she needs to do is make the introduction, ask them how they are enjoying themselves or some other courtesy break-the-ice chat, then mention the private dance. Making herself as desirable as possible all the while to dangle the bait the way women can. How long she chats with them outside of that is up to her. She's not their girlfriend. It could just be a relatively brisk whip around the room. I'm not suggesting that she normally work this way - just when she doesn't feel comfortable chatting or have time for it.
bem401
05-04-2009, 05:27 AM
Why not just have her ask the guy "do you plan on doing any dances today/tonight?" I only visit the clubs to see specific people and when some girl I have no intention of dancing with approaches me, I want that question asked ASAP, so I can minimize the amount of her ( and my ) time that's being wasted, and gently send her on her way. Unless she provides that or a similar opportunity, I'll have to bring up the point and that seems rude because now it seems like I'm telling her to go away
Hopper
05-04-2009, 05:59 AM
Why not just have her ask the guy "do you plan on doing any dances today/tonight?" I only visit the clubs to see specific people and when some girl I have no intention of dancing with approaches me, I want that question asked ASAP, so I can minimize the amount of her ( and my ) time that's being wasted, and gently send her on her way. Unless she provides that or a similar opportunity, I'll have to bring up the point and that seems rude because now it seems like I'm telling her to go away
Well they have to directly ask some of the time, so you can't avoid having to say no a number of times. It's a business - they know that. Disliking rejections is one thing, but girls got to understand that no girl is universally attractive - tastes vary. No patron can afford LDs with every girl in the club either.
bem401
05-04-2009, 07:34 AM
^^^^ You're right. Any dancer who has a serious issue with rejections will not find it easy work. I think my suggestion makes it easier on both parties. I find it unpleasant to have to tell a dancer I don't want a dance from her. No matter what she does, if I'm going to do dances, I already know who I'll be doing them with and how many I'll be doing before I even go into the club.
charlie61
05-04-2009, 10:30 AM
Why not just have her ask the guy "do you plan on doing any dances today/tonight?" I only visit the clubs to see specific people and when some girl I have no intention of dancing with approaches me, I want that question asked ASAP, so I can minimize the amount of her ( and my ) time that's being wasted, and gently send her on her way. Unless she provides that or a similar opportunity, I'll have to bring up the point and that seems rude because now it seems like I'm telling her to go away
This is a great suggestion. I actually do something similar when I'm feeling a bit shy, or when I don't think the customer feels like getting dances. I'll say "So, what do you usually like to do when you come to strip clubs?" This gives them an opportunity to either make it clear that they want a dance, or pretend that they don't ever get lap dances (this way, if they don't like me in particular, it isn't a personal turn-down).
bem401
05-04-2009, 11:07 AM
Not being a dancer, it may be easy for me to say, but none of the turn-downs should be taken personally, unless they are done rudely. I know that's easier said than done though. You just have to look at it as an occupational hazard. Some of my friends would be considered the top girls in their respective clubs and they anticipate striking out 2/3 of the time or more asking for dances with guys they don't know. And this was when the economy was good.
minnow
05-04-2009, 12:56 PM
I was just reading up on the blue side's pet peeves for going to clubs...and one of the biggest ones concerned dancers who don't ask you for dances.
Obviously, there is a delicate balance of hustling in the club. Most girls don't want to go around to every single guy (I personally can't get shot down 90 times in a row without suffering a loss of confidence), and most customers don't want to be hustled by every stripper (it's annoying and time-consuming, etc.). So how can we better tell whether or not you're interested?
I know the really big ones: if you tip the girl more than a dollar on stage, if you ask her to come see you after her stage show, etc.
But I'm guessing that, as strippers in a busy environment, we miss a lot of signs that the guys think they're making obvious.
<snips>
List anything: what you do when you really AREN'T interested in the stripper, what you do when you really ARE interested? If you're one of those guys who doesn't approach the dancers for dances, then how do you (at least in your own head) indicate that you're interested?
Or feel free to refer me to another thread if this has already been discussed extensively before. :)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I often do the asking, generally while tipping stage set, end of story, right??
Not quite, at what point in my visit will I get around to doing the asking? I recall that being the subject of another thread, whose conclusion was that guys generally don't like to be pounced on within 1st 5 minutes of club arrival. Common "settling in" time mentioned was 20 minutes. So, if a guys drink is at least half empty, he just might be ready for dances, especially if he's already asked a dancer or 2 for some dances, and dancers go off to VIP with prior customer.
I suspect that the guys real gripe with dancers not circulating is centered on the tendency for some dancers to "hang out" drinking at table or bar for great lengths of time without getting any dances. Also, the tendency to hang out in "dancer cliques", sometimes. I recall 1 club whereby several dancers would hang out in seperate room from main floor, and practice pole tricks on secondary stage pole. This particular club had "cattle call" practice, but habit seemed to be for several dancers "do stage set, hang out & practice pole tricks, then do cattle call when I must".
"HTH"................
Earl_the_Pearl
05-04-2009, 04:27 PM
I don't do stage tips because I'm self-conscious about it - everyone's watching the stage usually of course.
Fact, they are not looking at you. :O
rlams2000
05-04-2009, 04:46 PM
Fact, they are not looking at you. :O
I just spit up my Pepsi. Too funny.;D
Bob_Loblaw
05-04-2009, 06:44 PM
Why not just have her ask the guy "do you plan on doing any dances today/tonight?"
What a coincidence that I was asked that for the first time last night by a dancer. Unfortunately for her, she didn't notice that I had just walked in a minute before she approached me. Still, we exchanged pleasantries and when she asked if I planned on getting dances that night I responded in the affirmative. She then excused herself to allow me to settle in. After getting dances with four other dancers, she came around to collect and off we went.
Hopper
05-05-2009, 03:56 AM
Fact, they are not looking at you. :O
Yeah okay but if I am tipping the dancer, and they are watching the dancer, then they will see me too. I just like to be inconspicuous. I'm there to watch, others like to participate.
Earl_the_Pearl
05-06-2009, 02:24 PM
Yeah okay but if I am tipping the dancer, and they are watching the dancer, then they will see me too. I just like to be inconspicuous. I'm there to watch, others like to participate.
Believe me you are just another PL in the crowd, another brick in the wall, nobody, except you, cares.
I once felt like you but got over it; now it is easy to sit with a dancer's snatch a foot away from my nose. :magnify:
minnow
05-06-2009, 10:06 PM
Yeah okay but if I am tipping the dancer, and they are watching the dancer, then they will see me too. I just like to be inconspicuous. I'm there to watch, others like to participate.
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Really, now Mr. Hopper, I have a hard time remembering exactly what the guy with glasses and patriotic tie looked like from a 4th of July 1995 club visit. I do recall the dancer taking the guys' glasses off , putting in back of t-back & prancing around stage, then taking guys tie off, doing the full length "crotch polish with tie, then hooking tie over back of neck, pulling him towards her while administering vigorous "Stevies" to his face, finally wiping his glasses with tie, and gently placing them back on him.
Heck, I'm having a hard enough time recalling what the guy with an orange Hawaiian shirt, and 2-tone sweat pants looked like from my club visit last week....::)