View Full Version : Do you set a limit?
bsteve
12-08-2008, 10:11 PM
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what a bunch of morons-
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hey guess what jackass
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have u ever even had sex with a real girl? didnt think so.....
Uh, gnosis, why the animosity? Anything wrong?
evan_essence
12-09-2008, 03:44 PM
You are misunderstanding.No, there's a difference between misunderstanding and yanking your chain.
I can use the prices I have gotten in the past in order to haggle. If I got a dance from someone during a prior visit and I don't tell you who, you wouldn't be able to tell who it was.Well now see, that doesn't address my point that, from that point forward, I'll be able to see who you get dances from. If I know you're a cheapskate, I can assume you're going to get dances only from the undercutters. Anyone you get a dance from obviously undercut or else you'd be saying no thanks. Even though you don't name names, the moment you use the info to haggle with me, you become a barometer that I can observe to know who those girls are.
-Ev
WallyT
12-10-2008, 08:41 PM
GR, do these places still exist in your neck of the woods? They all went out of business in Boston about fifteen or twenty years ago when the old Combat Zone started to fade.
I haven't been to a place in years that ran a drink hustle like that. Yikes!
Baltimore's Block still has about a dozen places where ladies' drinks start at $20 or more. It's also the kind of place where a dancer will grab your goodies when she asks you to buy her a drink. :O
Earl_the_Pearl
12-14-2008, 12:31 AM
BTW, had the dancer I bought the $30 drink for warned me in advance, I probably would have skipped the $30 drink and bought $100 or more on dances - she was hot. I hope that she enjoyed her drink.
slcdon 8)
She did as dancers get a cut from every drink they hustle. It is illegal but common.
Earl_the_Pearl
12-14-2008, 12:35 AM
When I have bought drinks for dancers, it has been at clubs where the dancers don't make money off the drinks. The price is the same as drinks for customers and I often go to the bar and get the drink rather than from a waitress.
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You pay $6 for a beer that cost the house less then a dollar. A dancer gets a cut from a $6 dollar beer and the house still makes money. Many girls get drunk and they don't want to, they leave the drink or spill it out. Some have a code word for diet coke and lemon, $8. Strip clubs are one big hustle, know the truth.
SassyPants
12-14-2008, 02:33 PM
Some clubs don't give the dancers a cut... my club sells beers for $5.25-6.25, liquor $6.25-13.75 (for custies and entertainers as well) and I don't receive a penny of that. When I was a waitress, we were told that "faking" a drink was against company policy and/or illegal (I can't recall) so if I ever ordered a shot of water for someone, I was promptly turned down. Now as a dancer if I try to con the bartender into giving me a fakie (because sometimes, my tolerance is really low and I don't want to get sick but I want my customer to think I'm still partying) he'll still tell me he can't do it. ::)
doc-catfish
12-14-2008, 02:41 PM
They still do the dancer drink thing around here. The thing is that the price varies from $10-100, and you have to pay for the actual drink (at regular bar prices) on top of that. The girl keeps around 75-80% of the first figure. Its sort of a way to pay a girl for her time, but I've never seen anything that correlates to 'x' $ amount gets you 'y' amount of time.
Yeah, and they do fake drinks as well. It has a practical purpose of keeping the girls from getting plastered, but don't think that I wouldn't like to see the state ABC catch them pulling this stunt.
SassyPants
12-14-2008, 09:08 PM
I know all of this. I was only pointing out to Earl that some clubs don't give their dancers any cuts off the drinks sold, and not all clubs allow fake drinks.
Earl_the_Pearl
12-15-2008, 04:01 PM
Now as a dancer if I try to con the bartender into giving me a fakie (because sometimes, my tolerance is really low and I don't want to get sick but I want my customer to think I'm still partying) he'll still tell me he can't do it. ::)
One can ask for a cider shaker, in the US and Canada cider is not fermented, that would be "hard" cider. Ask for a beer it could be non alcoholic. I have bought many a girl a Red Bull no problem.
So even if you hustle drinks you get nothing but a swollen liver, not even less house fees?
Earl_the_Pearl
12-15-2008, 04:04 PM
Some customers buy drinks for dancers as a nice gesture. They might not buy a drink for a dancer if the dancer made money off the drinks or the drinks were fake.
Dancers make money and fake is the name of the game.
SassyPants
12-15-2008, 05:36 PM
One can ask for a cider shaker, in the US and Canada cider is not fermented, that would be "hard" cider. Ask for a beer it could be non alcoholic. I have bought many a girl a Red Bull no problem.
So even if you hustle drinks you get nothing but a swollen liver, not even less house fees?
My particular club doesn't have cider or sparkling cider, and no non-alcoholic beer. A red bull would work, but what if your customer WANTS you to be "partying" a red bull isn't gonna cut it, is it? Unless he is drunk enough to not notice you didn't order a cocktail. I never have had to deal with this particular scenario, though.
Yes, it's true. The house fee remains the same no matter how many drinks I get bought for me, and I don't see a penny of those sales. boo hiss!
Earl_the_Pearl
12-15-2008, 07:31 PM
A red bull would work, but what if your customer WANTS you to be "partying" a red bull isn't gonna cut it, is it?
A club in Paterson serves dancers a very small beer, customers get a regular size one. I don't know of a club in New Jersey that doesn't compensate a dancer for hustling drinks. They will never admit it though.
maximvsv
01-01-2009, 06:48 PM
When buying a dancer a drink, do you set a limit on how much you are willing to spend for that drink?
Around $20. The clubs where I go sell mixed drinks for $9-11 and a double adds about $3. Occasionally, there a $40 shot of Johnny Walker Blue available, and I wouldn't buy that even for myself.
stressed
01-07-2009, 02:43 PM
i had one club that charged 40-375.00 for the dancer drinks and you were given a set amount of time with it and so many dances.
40 got you 30 minutes and one dance--no vip rooms
i do not know what the 375 got because i never found a dancer in the club that put the fever in me.
personally though if there is no alcohol--i am not interested--one reason i usually dont do full nude clubs--------i like to drink and to me it is a big part of my evening. i am a professional drinker that has honed my skills for many years and regardless if it is 3.00 or 8.00 i must have my beverage.
it does get kind of stupid sometimes i remember at Tao in vegas we got 5 bottles for our group and the bill ran over 2 grand. Treat it as an entertainment expense and be done with it.
chris91
02-03-2009, 05:07 AM
abcd, I find it strange that you keep talking about "reasonably" priced dances. As if it were a generally accepted fact that $5 is a reasonable amount to pay for a lapdance. I think it's clear, from all the responses here and the fact that very few clubs set lap prices under $25, that $5 is NOT reasonable. You are in the minority in thinking that it is, and it doesn't matter how many times you SAY it's reasonable. It will still be not just un-reasonable, but completely ridiculously un-reasonable.
We don't set the prices for dances. The club sets them. We can choose to undercut, but most of us are not stupid enough to do so. Every time a girl lets you talk her down to $5, she devalues dances for all the other girls. The ones you are getting dances from are morons.
Now let's talk about your "haggling" method where you supposedly don't out the girls who undercut. If you told me that a girl gave you a $5 dance, you can bet your ass I'll be watching you to see who you dance with. Even after you're gone, I'll be watching those girls until I catch them doing it and get their stupid asses fired. You are outing them.
All that said, I find your posts endlessly entertaining, and it makes me happy to see so many dudes in here disagreeing with you.