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knightwish
06-03-2013, 09:26 AM
This is an old thread that's popping near the top for some reason. Anyway my $.02.

Guys are generally going to go for what they can get. In terms of how much milage: where they are from and what they are used to, what's the norm in your club are bigger factors than attractiveness. Also there is how much milage they want. 10-12 years ago I loved heavy grinding now honestly I don't want the grinding. I want more of the topless sexy-romantic sort of lap dance. Brush my cheek, kiss a little, look longingly into my eyes... do that well I'd be much happier than a mechanical blow job.

Also I think older is a bigger factor than looks in terms of milage. In general older can be way more experienced, better at distracting so that you have a great time and often a very low milage dance. If not then milage is expected. So take away all those other factors and yeah I guess the prettier the girl the less milage I'd demand. But I wouldn't read much into a guy demanding HM dances from you. Remember you are the stripper he picked out of all the other options to give his money to. That means he likes you.

JadeNicole
06-03-2013, 07:37 PM
Guys always think theyre paying too much for anything in a club. Im sure some think dollar dances are too much. I for one wont do dollar dances or any bs like that. I think 10 for a table dance is too low and certainly 25 for a lapdance is. It should be a lot higher.

IsobelWren
06-03-2013, 08:10 PM
This is an old thread that's popping near the top for some reason.

Because some n00b wasn't reading date stamps when perusing threads in the search function before posting on the thread, and because other folks aren't reading the date stamp before they post in it either.

....but it does mean I get to post one of my absolute favorite catty memes again!

http://bios.weddingbee.com/pics/127605/zombie-thread.jpg

yoda57us
06-04-2013, 05:56 AM
Since it's very slow here in blue I've been a bit more tolerant of letting "exhumed" threads see the light of day in hopes of generating discussion...so far it has not produced the desired results...

knightwish
06-04-2013, 03:16 PM
Guys always think theyre paying too much for anything in a club. Im sure some think dollar dances are too much. I for one wont do dollar dances or any bs like that. I think 10 for a table dance is too low and certainly 25 for a lapdance is. It should be a lot higher.

Hi Jade. I gotta tell you I disagree strongly with the "it should be more" Though maybe this should be another thread. I think strip clubs have made their price per minute for private time too high. Most guys are not willing to pay $300 / hr for what they get in the LD room. They certainly aren't willing to do it hour after hour after hour. So most strippers spend almost all their time hustling to get guys to spend a little time with them.

I think both sides would like a lower hourly rate with more for the woman at the end of the night. For example take the private foot parties I was talking about last week.

Guy spends $40-60 admission. This covers the house so there are no house fees. The house also has no incentive to overbook dancers. The dancers know that every guy in the club has spent $50 to be able to buy lap dances so the time wasters are weeded out in advance.

Dance time is less intense (more like VIP) at $20 per 10 min rather than $20 per 4 min (though remember no house fees). Most of the women are working 80% of the time on privates making a smooth steady $90 / hr anytime the club is moderately busy.

I think lower fees would result in far more money than higher fees.

JadeNicole
06-05-2013, 07:56 AM
I disagree. I think girls should be able to charge more especially in higher class clubs. We should also get a percentage of CR and VIP sales. And drink sales!

yoda57us
06-05-2013, 04:32 PM
I disagree. I think girls should be able to charge more especially in higher class clubs. We should also get a percentage of CR and VIP sales. And drink sales!


Where I come from that's called being the owner, not a dancer. Where do you dance? Don't you get to keep the majority of your VIP and dance money already?

knightwish
06-06-2013, 05:14 AM
I disagree. I think girls should be able to charge more especially in higher class clubs. We should also get a percentage of CR and VIP sales. And drink sales!

Women do get a commission on drinks on clubs where they are expected to sell drinks. That's not uncommon. But in most clubs today drinks, while a profit center aren't huge money makers. Selling drinks was how clubs used to charge for time outside the LD room. The customer had to "buy the lady" an absurdly overpriced drink for say $30 and she could sit with him for 15 minutes or so. As long as she was "drinking" they could spend time together. Of course she would suggest the LD room or .... but it wasn't mandatory. You don't see that as much today. The women's drinks are getting more reasonable. I suspect that came from the switch from topless with alcohol to nude with low alcohol for the more high contact clubs. But that's just a WAG on my part.

In terms of charging more. What hourly rate are you trying to achieve? A string of say 10 dances at $30 dance (high end club) is 40 minutes for $300. Let's assume the other 20 are spent going to the bathroom or getting the customer to the LD area... Strippers spending the night in the CR can easily do a $3k+ night. The problem isn't women charging to little once they have a buying customer. It is the dead time between buying customers.

Darkblue
06-06-2013, 05:47 AM
$25 for what kind if lap dance . If its just no touching full grind lap dance , it us too expensive. If it is full contact bikini dance it's ok. If it is topless no touching price is ok. If it is topless full contact , $25 is less . Of course the quality of the dancer takes precedence over everything. I am not talking about a dancer who is below 8. Even in high end clubs, there are some dancers I don't want to pay even $10 for full contact, but I can pay $40 per song for other super hot gorgeous dancer. They deserve it. There is club in Raleigh, they charge $40 per sing full contact topless. Most of girls are hot and rated above 8.

JadeNicole
06-06-2013, 03:54 PM
Id like to be able to get 40-50 per song plus like 2 bucks per drink etc and a percentage of VIP.

Darkblue
06-07-2013, 01:59 PM
You must be getting percentage from VIP . Isn't that nôrmal? If VIP room charge is $200 per hr , how much do you get?

estafador
06-25-2013, 10:54 AM
Personally, I think it goes both ways. While generally, those with lesser looks will work harder and let more things slide to earn the type of dollar TOP EXOTIC DANCE OF CLUB is earning, does it necessarily mean your ugly? Different strokes for different folks. Maybe they realize you're not getting as much dances as #1 dancer is getting and might think you'll let him get away with the grabs since you're making less money. And maybe because you AREN'T as attractive as the 9+. On the other hand, maybe it's a hands on club and you're late to the party. And the #1 only goes for perverse scared gentlemen with suits because she knows she can get away with just conversing and you just happen to be NOT #1. It's a bunch of variables. Maybe you are ugly maybe you're not. But if you're letting the groping commence (at least at a respectable amount), you'll finally make more than #1 stunner. Try getting your conversation skills up as an alternative if you're that self-concious

estafador
06-25-2013, 10:58 AM
And I have a different perspective from other men in terms of drop dead gorgeous (a lot of men like those skinny blonde no booty types. Not me). I only expect hands on (don't worry I'm not a hard presser) and no air dances

oldster
06-30-2013, 06:45 AM
Personally, if I want a dance with you, I think you are hot.

At the fairly low mileage club I frequent, some of the hottest dancers give the highest mileage. My fav allows modest two way contact, but I always wait for her to initiate, even knowing her for months. And I always thank her. She gives an incredibly erotic one way contact dance, really really amazing. Honestly sexier than a lot of the sex I have had. That is a talent that I pay for. To be able to also feel the small of her back, run my hand over her perfect[I mean PERFECT] ass, even briefly, is just over the top joy.

I never 'grab' anything.

rgbg
09-14-2013, 04:16 AM
I don't think I'd even bother with an 'air dance' club. Seems pretty empty. The place I visit most, even the bar tip involves a nipple feel.


Some of the sexiest dancers I've been with are not 'model hot' but know how to use their body to send me into overdrive. I've never had (or asked for) a BJ or such but there is a lot this side of that point that has gotten these girls tips and repeat business.

maximvsv
09-18-2013, 02:38 AM
For the original question, my answer is no. I don't expect it from any dancer on the basis of her looks, and I don't initiate it, regardless. I won't turn it down, but I won't hold it against a dancer who is "low mileage". I have been to a few clubs that were "air dance" clubs, and I got a few dances there, too.

lopaw
09-23-2013, 08:41 PM
With more and more dancers sitting around on their cellphones and never getting off of their lazy asses to hustle for dances it doesn't even matter whether or not they are drop dead gorgeous.

Moff
11-17-2013, 03:29 PM
A zombie-thread about drop-dead girls? Even in Goth-Seattle that's OTT. I'm IN!

Funny thing. We don't agree on who is drop dead gorgeous. Do you find piercings, bolt-ons, tats sexy or gross? Haven't found a correlation between how gorgeous and the extras. But tip well at the stage does pay off for mileage later.

Golden_Rule
11-17-2013, 08:59 PM
My take on this hasn't changed in ages.

No matter the situation my expectations are zero. My expenditure is damn close to that as well. I let the situation unfold as it will, allowing the intercourse to play itself out in a natural way, adding only every so lightly a leading influence in this direction or that as fate might allow, and increase my expenditure [what ever resource(s) that might be] in fair amount to those being lent to the equation by the other(s) involved.

In such a way I have rarely been over taxed or been too taxing of others. I don't take and don't get taken. The exchange, like water, finds its own level. Every good thing that comes of it is a plus.

You get the idea.

rickdugan
11-18-2013, 10:16 AM
Where I did most of my clubbing back in 1995 to about 2001 or so, predominantly in the New England states and parts of NY, there was some truth to the notion that the hotter girls generally did less for their money as opposed to the girls who needed an extra edge to compete. There was just so much money coming into the clubs during those days, in that region, that girls did not need to do high mileage stuff ITC to earn well. Indeed, HM dances were fairly rare outside of a few crappier cities in CT, and when they could be had the girls providing them were often not much to look at.

My very first high mileage experience with a truly beautiful and sexy dancer actually took place in Miami circa 2002, where I was visiting on a business trip. That stunning girl did things to me in the CR that my girlfriend at the time wouldn't do, lol, and to this day it remains as one of my best backroom experiences ever. I paid a bundle for it, but it blew my mind away after becoming so accustomed to the either tame experiences with the beauties of the northeast or rushed and generally unremarkable experiences found in the dives of CT.

Fast forwarding to today, where I don't think that the old truisms hold so much anymore, even in areas where the divide was wide. IMHO economic realities and heightened customer expectations have largely leveled the playing field, though IME even today some of the hottest girls will do a bit less and/or hold out for more. But the gap has narrowed a lot in my experience.

Now I know that some guys on this board reside in areas that have been higher mileage for a very long time, so are probably seeing less of a difference between then and now, but where I cut my teeth I have to say that the changes have been significant.

AmyLynne
11-18-2013, 05:25 PM
Mileage has changed because customers attitudes have changed. Customers today think it's a game to pick us up. Too many gangsters and wannabe thugs who are taught by the hip hop and rap guys need to have their attitudes adjusted by the bouncers. It's getting ridiculous and nearly dangerous with the the wannabe high rollers who barely have jobs other than selling drugs!

Liwet
08-09-2017, 09:40 PM
This is an old thread that's popping near the top for some reason. Anyway my $.02.

I've been a bit more tolerant of letting "exhumed" threads see the light of day in hopes of generating discussion...

I've found a good way to get better mileage out of any girl is to get them to like you. Best way is to give them money; cheapest way is to buy their gratitude. If they are dancing on stage and you give them a decent tip (like $5) when no one else is tipping, most feel grateful to you. Because they are young, they mistake their gratitude for feelings for you. They are then more likely to give you higher mileage no matter how attractive they are.

As to directly answering OP's question, I don't correlate their looks with mileage. I'll talk to whatever pretty girls want to talk me and negotiate any touching/groping beforehand as I feel weird going into a sexual situation with a stranger without having a game plan. If touching isn't allowed, then I don't get a dance.