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Eric Stoner
03-05-2009, 10:07 AM
In the early 90's I read a university level Sociology book. Society and: big business, govt, media, etc. It was a good read, and I was surprised to find that (as well as the books impartiality). A little more research found it valid. That was a few years before I heard of the internet.

ITT manufactured products for and kept the telecom system running. Including submarine communications, buoys, etc..IIRC, the judgment was in the high 20's (million usd).

There are sources on the internet, but as it has gotten bigger, a lot of anti-right groups use it as a truth that is added to fiction, to make their point.

ITT has also been linked to Allende and Franco. They were fined big for their tech transfers.

In that year, a book came out about financing Hitler (I think that was the title). But in later years, there have been other books detailing the western supporters for Hitler (financially).

Anywho, I checked out TER and Elms is no longer with TER. However, I find the misplaced loyalty he is being given by some staff (and non staff) a little...well, misplaced. It is possible for a complete asshole to actually create something useful, and abuse it. Just look at Thomas Edison. ;D

During W.W. II there were foreign subsidiaries of multi-nationals like ITT that continued doing business. There were also a few less than scrupulous American corporations like Texaco that through various machinations sold fuel to the Nazis going through neutral third-parties like Sweden.

Assuming there was an ITT factory in Germany that got bombed, there is still no viable legal theory under which they could sue the U.S. for its damage or destruction. Give me the cite please. I'd like to read the case. If any. ITT did business with a LOT of unsavory people around the world and paid more than their fair share of bribes.

glambman
03-05-2009, 12:37 PM
I am not a lawyer, so I don't know about legal theory, and I can't remember the specific case number 18 or so years later.

mitsmash
03-05-2009, 10:08 PM
I am not my brother's keeper.

Ice.


I like how this thread went from escorting information for beginners to a discussion of corporate two-timing during WWII.

Golden_Rule
03-06-2009, 01:26 AM
My point is, Elms started TER, and it looks like he is a poor excuse of a human, but he does not have anything to do with TER anymore...


You mean other than he owns it? ::)

glambman
03-06-2009, 09:11 AM
You mean other than he owns it? ::)

Does he still? So he just took a sabbatical due to being charged with crimes?

There have been quite a number of people (CEO's / Founders of companies) who maintain a share of stock (like former AIG CEO who was the majority stakeholder when he was ousted). Not a problem to me, but if he owned controlling stake, it would.

As I said, I have more of an issue with the misplaced loyalty of some of the TER staff and some of its members, who praise Elms but don't even admit he's been charged with crimes and used TER for illicit activities.

But anyways, after the lawsuits, he may not have any stake.

Eric Stoner
03-06-2009, 09:50 AM
Ice.


I like how this thread went from escorting information for beginners to a discussion of corporate two-timing during WWII.

That's one of the great things about S-Web. You NEVER know where a thread is going to go.

Golden_Rule
03-06-2009, 11:25 PM
Does he still? So he just took a sabbatical due to being charged with crimes?

Outright as far as anyone knows. He has no partners anyone knows about, other than his wife that is, and by all the stories told she is every bit as bad as he is.

glambman
03-07-2009, 03:39 PM
He has no partners anyone knows about, other than his wife that is, and by all the stories told she is every bit as bad as he is.


If two people deserve each other, it's them. Too bad they had to ruin an otherwise great idea.

she sells sanctuary
03-07-2009, 06:53 PM
what did his wife say/do?

yoda57us
03-12-2009, 08:16 AM
You mean other than he owns it? ::)

Actually Elms has not owned the site since 2004. Treehouse Park acquired the site in 2004. Of course Elms has still exerted his influence as founder of the site but it seems pretty clear based on the speed with which Treehouse Park has distanced themselves from Elms that he was nothing more than a well paid employee or consultant.

Golden_Rule
03-12-2009, 11:03 AM
Actually Elms has not owned the site since 2004. Treehouse Park acquired the site in 2004. Of course Elms has still exerted his influence as founder of the site but it seems pretty clear based on the speed with which Treehouse Park has distanced themselves from Elms that he was nothing more than a well paid employee or consultant.

I fully admit that I could be wrong but it was my understanding that "Treehouse Park" is Elms and his family.

yoda57us
03-12-2009, 07:07 PM
LOL, and I fully admit you could be right. I don't really care to dig any deeper to find out.

valeriamessalina
04-02-2009, 11:12 PM
I am not my brother's keeper.


LOL, and I fully admit you could be right. I don't really care to dig any deeper to find out.


Eric, I do not approve of his bad behavior. But it's not my problem.

As I said, spoken like a true john. I don't need to make presumptions about your mindset; you've made it plain. It's not your problem, you're here to fuck, and you don't care about the consequences.

Treehouse Park is an offshore shell corporation wholly owned by David Elms. If anyone is interested in his whereabouts, click below:

http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site577/2009/0324/20090324__C_TN25-ELMS+PC3USYN_100.JPG