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Otoki
03-31-2009, 08:45 AM
Other things I like about working:

1. I love performance arts. I love being on stage and playing with an audience.
2. I have a sexual, sensual side of me that I rarely, if ever, call attention to IRL.
3. Manifesting my femininity (which I also rarely do in real life).

This is exactly how I feel too! I don't really put any effort into my appearance IRL (why should I? I'm not getting paid;D ) so I like being able to do those three things in a controlled environment.

jack0177057
03-31-2009, 12:31 PM
Other things I like about working:
1. I love performance arts. I love being on stage and playing with an audience.
2. I have a sexual, sensual side of me that I rarely, if ever, call attention to IRL.
3. Manifesting my femininity (which I also rarely do in real life).

Getting to mix the three of these things full-force when I work is the best! I go onstage in the makeup and costume, swinging hips and winking at guys is SO MUCH FUN if i never, ever do it in real life.
Doing it as a job also allows me to not have to worry about the long-term consequences compared to if actually act this way all the time. For the most part, I don't like attention from men when I just want to go about doing my business quietly. I don't go to parties, and I don't flirt.

But it is definitely satisfying for my self-confidence to know that I could if I wanted to, and do it well, too. I think it was Paris who said that this is the perfect job for introverts?

I love meeting dancers like you at the SC. :) What do you think about Burlesque dancing? We don't have any Burlesque clubs here in Houston, but from what I hear, it is more artistic than the average SC, involving more costumes, glitz and pageantry... But, no lap dancing. :(

threlayer
04-03-2009, 09:16 PM
You should really think before you post.

Regarding alcohol usage....I read before I posted. Many here would not work if they weren't pretty high. The meaning is very apparent to me. I bet you can find those many posts too.

Otoki
04-08-2009, 12:27 AM
Regarding alcohol usage....I read before I posted. Many here would not work if they weren't pretty high. The meaning is very apparent to me. I bet you can find those many posts too.
Are you seriously saying you don't find your post condescending?

If girls have to be high to work, I very highly doubt that they're in here posting about how much they love love love the job.::)

threlayer
04-16-2009, 05:21 PM
My post only reflects my experience over several years in clubs and listening to complaints posted here. Not everyone who posted in this thread was able to work consistently without being high or drunk. Psychologically it's a tough job, and particularly so when creeps hit on you. Most of the guys posting here really do understand that. It seems that any dancers got into it without realizing their limits and tolerance and they to stick it out. Thinking that alcohol will make it more tolerable they try that for awhile. Until it doesn't work either or they turn to the bottle consistently. Those people should not have been working in a sex-related trade.

Otoki
04-17-2009, 03:27 AM
My post only reflects my experience over several years in clubs and listening to complaints posted here. Not everyone who posted in this thread was able to work consistently without being high or drunk. Psychologically it's a tough job, and particularly so when creeps hit on you. Most of the guys posting here really do understand that. It seems that any dancers got into it without realizing their limits and tolerance and they to stick it out. Thinking that alcohol will make it more tolerable they try that for awhile. Until it doesn't work either or they turn to the bottle consistently. Those people should not have been working in a sex-related trade.
I agree with that, but you sure as hell could have worded things more tactfully. Or, you know, not posted a snide comment like that in a thread about why we love our job.

threlayer
04-20-2009, 08:01 AM
I suppose so, somehow; it was a simple and true, though generalized, statement.

Otoki
04-21-2009, 10:16 AM
I suppose so, somehow; it was a simple and true, though generalized, statement.
True doesn't make it relevant or helpful in context.

threlayer
04-22-2009, 05:14 AM
Realistic makes is useful (i.e. relevant or helpful) in light of unrealistic life directions.

Otoki
04-29-2009, 11:21 AM
Realistic makes is useful (i.e. relevant or helpful) in light of unrealistic life directions.
Well, I didn't find your snarky comment useful, relevent, or helpful. I also found it disrespectful. But hey, if you really want to keep defending your asinine comment, go right ahead.

charlie61
04-29-2009, 05:20 PM
/end argument

:)

Raysworld
04-29-2009, 05:51 PM
Love my job. It is interesting and I love that I can be efficient with time, and study.

No point in workin' if you aint having fun.

Hopper
05-01-2009, 11:59 PM
Amen, sister. That's why I don't get too riled up about my slow nights. The minute I think "OMFGWHARGARBLE! I only made a hundred bucks!" I stop myself and remember when I used to be happy to make that much when I was a waitress. And would I rather be dancing or waitressing? Easy question.

Dancing is not only fun, it's physically engaging in a way that's positive, instead of drudgery. I love physical jobs, but hate thankless backbreaking labor. When I dance, my every movement is something to be cherished!

Sometimes the customers are really fun. Usually they aren't, but sometimes they are. The good ones always end up in the CR or VIP with me, and no, I don't just like them because of the cash expenditure. The guys that like me enough to spend that much time with me are attracted to my conversation and personality, so naturally I'm going to click with them as well.

Humans have a tendency to focus on the negative. Especially around this forum . . . sometimes it's almost like a game of who can top who with the sucky night stories. I've noticed this on "Club Chat" too. People hardly say anything positive, it seems. Though maybe that's just me focusing on the negative!

Nice point.

Hopper
05-02-2009, 08:38 AM
^^ Being a reg makes so much sense to me. I don't get why a clubber wouldn't want to be one.

Maybe I should make a new post asking opinions on that topic.

FBR

It would make a good thread.

I can't get around the idea that if I'm paying to touch this same girl each week for a few months or years, it must be because I really like her; and if it goes on for that long without ever going OTC, it must also be because she doesn't fancy me at all. That would just be frustrating and a bit tragic. Better to find a girl OTC I really like who likes me back. But I can't imagine a girl I would like enough to be a regular for that long a time anyway. It's the variety and the unknown that interests me. I'd only go back to most girls Ive picked for LDs a second or third time if that. A really gorgeous one more times, but not every week for a year.

vmurphy252
05-02-2009, 10:15 AM
^^^my $.02. The closest I've come to being a regular is for a girl in a town that I visit on business maybe once a month. Great chemistry (manufactured or not) and provides that ego boost like the start of a new relationship, and it's pretty consistent when I see her because there's enough of a gap. Probably the best situation for both of us.

And, of course, I am special and she does really like me. Another dancer told me so. ;-)

Crow2
05-02-2009, 12:26 PM
I enjoy entertaining - the interaction. I do stupid boob tricks, stick my tongue out at guys when I'm on stage. Give them wedgies and a host of other things to get them to interact with me.

It's really dull to be on a stage and just get stared at like I'm a rock or something. I'm working! Give me something to work with!!!

I also enjoy getting paid. There's nothing more satisfying than to come home, take a bath and do my books. It's like.. " YEAH! I rock, I did good."

babybambi08
05-03-2009, 01:06 PM
I do have nights where I do have respectful customers, and make good money.. I like to learn about people.. I guess Im nosie lol.. but Im bi-polar so there are nights where I just get so angry for no reason really.. its sucks.. but If I wasnt bi-polar I would say that most of my time Im having a good time..

Hopper
05-03-2009, 07:49 PM
^^^my $.02. The closest I've come to being a regular is for a girl in a town that I visit on business maybe once a month. Great chemistry (manufactured or not) and provides that ego boost like the start of a new relationship, and it's pretty consistent when I see her because there's enough of a gap. Probably the best situation for both of us.

And, of course, I am special and she does really like me. Another dancer told me so. ;-)

Aren't women evil?

vmurphy252
05-03-2009, 08:10 PM
Oh, I get it. You're referring to what I said in the other thread! Clever...;D

Hopper
05-03-2009, 08:15 PM
Oh, I get it. You're referring to what I said in the other thread! Clever...;D

Do you really think she likes you? At first I assumed you were joking.

What does that ;-) mean anyway? I keep seeing that. Is there an emoticon for it too?

Athenathefabulous
05-03-2009, 08:26 PM
Depends on the club. My first club was a dive with the coolest bartenders and management but the worst of cleveland as the customers. In the beginning i was in love with, but towards the end i had to much bullshit from customers and i started turning into a bitch. That club had a high percentage of perverts and a lot of cheap people. It got to the point where I would often just yell at people when on stage. After this and getting involved in dancer drama, i was miserable and peaced out.
Second club had management that was really mean, so i hated that from the beginning and didnt stay long.

My current club-- I am back to loving my job. Management is awesome and for the most part, the customers who come in are good. I am pretty good at attracting customers who are decent human beings and if anyone sketches me out I wont do any private dances with them, just floor dances in front of the bouncers. I love dancing, i get in shape, and ive met some kickass people. My job is not usually boring! The only times ive really gotten angry were when customers came in and barked at the dancers (i hate that more than anything.)

Im someone who finds humor easily in things, and I largely think strip clubs are hilarious. If you think about it, its a pretty ridiculous concept that men come in and pay me 20$ to dance around in my g string for 3 minutes in my 8 inch heels and pretend to like them. Sometimes i will people watch in the strip club. Its always funny to watch the guys in front of the tip bar drooling over some naked girl. Ive come home with so many good stories of experiences that would not have happened anywhere else, and i love that part of the job. Seeing the other side of people that most people dont get to see is usually interesting, often amusing, and occasionally scary/depressing. So yea, im going to say 70% of the nights i like my job, 20% i loooove my job, and 10% i am cursing the day i became a stripper.

vmurphy252
05-03-2009, 09:31 PM
Do you really think she likes you? At first I assumed you were joking.

What does that ;-) mean anyway? I keep seeing that. Is there an emoticon for it too?

Yeah, I think the smilie on here would be ;). Wink and a smile. The joke was referring to the fact that all of the "does she like me posts" come down to "but I'm special" (I even have my own out there).

Anyway, I'm not looking to date this girl or anything, but there's a little electric thing between us, so she's either a great actress or there's some legit chemistry. I did talk to one of her fellow dancers on a night when she wasn't there, and that dancer said she did not see her act like she was with me with anyone else. So, who knows? It provides the "first rush of infatuation" feeling that I thrive on, so I'm good (girls, you may want to try and cultivate that if you don't already; fine line, cause it could turn stalkerish).

vmurphy252
05-03-2009, 09:36 PM
^Sorry, didn't mean to threadjack and/or talk about me that much. Back to your regularly scheduled programming...

vmurphy252
05-03-2009, 09:40 PM
^Athena, love that last paragraph. It is kind of a theater of the absurd feel a lot of the time. What's scary is that my intellect knows that but, um, other intellect overrides that. I have actually been in a club and spaced out thinking about the spirit/flesh dichotomy (with no altering substances ingested). Where else could I meditate on the fact that I hate my animal self while indulging it completely?

vmurphy252
05-03-2009, 09:47 PM
^^^Sorry, didn't intend to sound like a douchy college philosophy major. Unfortunately I sometime act like a douchy college philosophy major. I'm also apparently bored enough to comment on my own posts if other people don't. Maybe I can just open Word and type to myself...

Christyismyalias
05-03-2009, 11:55 PM
Im someone who finds humor easily in things, and I largely think strip clubs are hilarious. If you think about it, its a pretty ridiculous concept that men come in and pay me 20$ to dance around in my g string for 3 minutes in my 8 inch heels and pretend to like them. Sometimes i will people watch in the strip club. Its always funny to watch the guys in front of the tip bar drooling over some naked girl. Ive come home with so many good stories of experiences that would not have happened anywhere else, and i love that part of the job. Seeing the other side of people that most people dont get to see is usually interesting, often amusing, and occasionally scary/depressing. So yea, im going to say 70% of the nights i like my job, 20% i loooove my job, and 10% i am cursing the day i became a stripper.
I agree with this pretty right on with how I feel about the business.. Well said. It's such a unique and interesting place... I love it :)

Hopper
05-04-2009, 03:48 AM
Yeah, I think the smilie on here would be ;). Wink and a smile. The joke was referring to the fact that all of the "does she like me posts" come down to "but I'm special" (I even have my own out there).

Anyway, I'm not looking to date this girl or anything, but there's a little electric thing between us, so she's either a great actress or there's some legit chemistry. I did talk to one of her fellow dancers on a night when she wasn't there, and that dancer said she did not see her act like she was with me with anyone else. So, who knows? It provides the "first rush of infatuation" feeling that I thrive on, so I'm good (girls, you may want to try and cultivate that if you don't already; fine line, cause it could turn stalkerish).

Yes, it isn't the sort of tactic a dancer would be wise to use to get cash. Any patron she tried it on would be justified in taking her up on it. She is being dishonest and going outside the bounds of performance. She is asking to be propositionned if she is manipulating the patron into believing she is interested in him. Of course a smart patron would realise that it might be a ploy. Even if she gave him her number (or a number) she wouldn't have to go out with him later. But - then there are the "stalkers" who will persist in believing what she said the first time.

Reminds me of an incident. During a lapdance I asked the girl if her boyfriends know she strips. Her answer was only if they met in the club. That was unexpected, because she is telling me indirectly "yes, I let guys pick me up while I'm stripping". Not the sort of thing a girl is likely to say to just anyone - actually one of the things she'd be careful not to say. Especially while she is naked on his lap. So I wondered whether she was flirting and giving me an openning, just not afraid of being open with me or trying to lure me into spending more on her in the vain hope. Wish I'd found out by asking for her number and following up. She did seem to be comfortable with me, a kind of natural rapport, and she looked at me rather intently and a little meaningfully as she said it. Then again, it was a slow night.

Oh well, women will play their games. That's why we need to hold onto our money with both hands.

CuriousB
05-04-2009, 04:47 AM
Yes, it isn't the sort of tactic a dancer would be wise to use to get cash. Any patron she tried it on would be justified in taking her up on it. She is being dishonest and going outside the bounds of performance. She is asking to be propositionned if she is manipulating the patron into believing she is interested in him. Of course a smart patron would realise that it might be a ploy. Even if she gave him her number (or a number) she wouldn't have to go out with him later. But - then there are the "stalkers" who will persist in believing what she said the first time.

Reminds me of an incident. During a lapdance I asked the girl if her boyfriends know she strips. Her answer was only if they met in the club. That was unexpected, because she is telling me indirectly "yes, I let guys pick me up while I'm stripping". Not the sort of thing a girl is likely to say to just anyone - actually one of the things she'd be careful not to say. Especially while she is naked on his lap. So I wondered whether she was flirting and giving me an openning, just not afraid of being open with me or trying to lure me into spending more on her in the vain hope. Wish I'd found out by asking for her number and following up. She did seem to be comfortable with me, a kind of natural rapport, and she looked at me rather intently and a little meaningfully as she said it. Then again, it was a slow night.

Oh well, women will play their games. That's why we need to hold onto our money with both hands.

Guys, no. Stop. You are ruining it for everyone. If you are wondering whether that dancer is interested in you or whether she is just really good at her job it is the latter. At best, maybe she likes you and treats you well because you are a pleasant gentleman who is easy to deal with and she enjoys doing business with you. It's not worth contemplating otherwise.I've discovered myself that some dancers read you well and give you exactly what you want before you even know yourself. It's not a game, it's bloody brilliant customer service. Enjoy it.Just read my first post.

Hopper
05-04-2009, 05:27 AM
Guys, no. Stop. You are ruining it for everyone. If you are wondering whether that dancer is interested in you or whether she is just really good at her job it is the latter. At best, maybe she likes you and treats you well because you are a pleasant gentleman who is easy to deal with and she enjoys doing business with you. It's not worth contemplating otherwise.I've discovered myself that some dancers read you well and give you exactly what you want before you even know yourself. It's not a game, it's bloody brilliant customer service. Enjoy it.Just read my first post.

That's what I normally do think. I don't lose sleep wondering if it's otherwise. I don't go to SCs to pick up at all. There is a world outside you know. Yes they are nice just from appreciation that she doesn't have to deal with another dweeb, jerk, sleaze, player or cheapskate. I was just considering the possibility that they resort to this as a ploy, and some less scrupulous ones actually might. Or you might consider pretending to flirt this way a legitimate part of the performance. Maybe so. Doesn't bother me. Makes it interesting if anything.

What first post? Isn't this it?

BTW - in "Lounge" theres a thread started by a dancer who wants a realationship with one of the patrons. Obviously happens.