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mysteryman
02-22-2009, 01:25 PM
http://forum.stripperweb.com/blog.php?b=110

Eric Stoner
02-22-2009, 02:03 PM
Not a surprise and has been rumored for months. The "Bunny" is old, anemic and has suffered greatly from years of mis-management. Look how skinny the latest issues have been - 124 pages = NO ADS. Time was the Christmas issue was over 400 pages thick.

nina888
02-22-2009, 05:37 PM
I know this is gunna sound weird cus i am a stripper and Playboy is in the same "arena" as my profession............ but I hate Playboy.

I dont like the look that they are promoting at all, nor the mindset. The women on that god- awful television show "girls next door" are the posterchild for the american bimbo. i dont ever want to look, act, or think like any of them. If you pay attention, they cant even laugh without sounding fake. To me Playboy is like a giant ad for modern stepford wives- doting little bunnies with perfect bodies (thanks to plastic surgery) and no brains.

Elvia
02-22-2009, 06:32 PM
I know this is gunna sound weird cus i am a stripper and Playboy is in the same "arena" as my profession............ but I hate Playboy.

I dont like the look that they are promoting at all, nor the mindset. The women on that god- awful television show "girls next door" are the posterchild for the american bimbo. i dont ever want to look, act, or think like any of them. If you pay attention, they cant even laugh without sounding fake. To me Playboy is like a giant ad for modern stepford wives- doting little bunnies with perfect bodies (thanks to plastic surgery) and no brains.


THANK YOU! I agree entirely. I do still have a soft spot for vintage playboy, before plastic surgery when you had real variety in bodies. Now they all pretty much look the same, and the whole thing is just so fake.

Maybe if they had held onto their roots and continued to find ways to be fresh and exciting, instead of trying to conform to the same tired porn image, they wouldn't be in such a mess.

nina888
02-22-2009, 10:56 PM
The sad thing is that the image they are promoting spills heavily over into our world. I can remember being hired to big upscale moneymaker clubs by a manager- only to be fired a week or so later because i didnt have fake boobs or i was a little thicker.

I have heard from health care professionals that plastic surgeons are the biggest money making doctors in this country right now!!!! Watching shows like The Girls next door, Real Housewives of Orange county, amongst others, are proof that its true!!!
How sad is it that its becoming normal for women to think that they HAVE to alter their bodies to be considered beautiful. This is so so sad.

I apologize to anyone who has had surgery who may feel offended by what i am saying but its a sad phenomenon to me......... :'(:-[:-\

Eric Stoner
02-23-2009, 09:04 AM
The sad thing is that the image they are promoting spills heavily over into our world. I can remember being hired to big upscale moneymaker clubs by a manager- only to be fired a week or so later because i didnt have fake boobs or i was a little thicker.

I have heard from health care professionals that plastic surgeons are the biggest money making doctors in this country right now!!!! Watching shows like The Girls next door, Real Housewives of Orange county, amongst others, are proof that its true!!!
How sad is it that its becoming normal for women to think that they HAVE to alter their bodies to be considered beautiful. This is so so sad.

I apologize to anyone who has had surgery who may feel offended by what i am saying but its a sad phenomenon to me......... :'(:-[:-\

1. Playboy does promote an "airbrushed" image of female beauty.
2. They don't seem to have much trouble finding plenty of women who fit that image. If you want to blame Playboy for all the plastic surgery I suppose you can but afaik they are not subsidizing it.
3. Plastic surgeons have seen their earnings plunge in the past year or so. Hanging on to your house is more important than a new set of boobs.
4. Afaic everyone is entitled to look their best and do anything to get that look so long as it's not harmful. Personally, I think diet, exercise and good makeup is usually the best way to go.

threlayer
02-23-2009, 01:23 PM
^^ Problem is that the women, who want to look their best, believe that the artificially perfected image is what they need to compare to. When most they can't achieve that in real life, then to some it becomes harmful.

I can see that as harmful to men as well, when they believe that perfected ideal is what they want. If someone is so much into achieving that ideal, I can see that some might have little else in life that interests them. So is that what your want your girlfriend to be like? Really?

glambman
02-23-2009, 01:43 PM
I'll miss the articles. :O

mysteryman
02-23-2009, 04:16 PM
The magazine is dieing for several reasons:

Magazines and Newspapers have dropped in sales since 2000. with the internet picking up more and more people. As time goes by print will die.

Porn is all over the net for free, so why buy a magazine when you get it for free?

DVD sales have slid since 2004 to the point now its not worth printing them anymore for Playboy. Once again free porn on the internet.

Viewers on cable have dropped slowly globaly due to, yes you guessed it internet porn. Its free with lots of choices on demand when you want it, oh did I mention its free?

You do not need to buy a magazine anymore to view porn if your a kid, just go to your internet and there it is free and plenty of it. So no longer going to be a childhood memory of the first playboy, its going to be that first porn website you found right after you entered boobies into the search bar.

Chgojoe
02-23-2009, 06:47 PM
In its heyday it had almost no competition. Now genericily speaking you have the maxims, mens journals, etc that all have done a better job of being revelent and entertaining. Naked ladies can be found everywhere. Ill browse through a lot of magazines, but I have no interest in looking at a playboy. The last few times I looked at one it seemed dated, out of touch, and I was turned off by all the unnatural airbrushing. I think Hefs public profile and percieved influence on the mag hurt its image also. When it is gone I won't miss it.

threlayer
02-23-2009, 09:03 PM
How much can I sell my collection of old Playboy VHS tapes for?

glambman
02-23-2009, 09:13 PM
How much can I sell my collection of old Playboy VHS tapes for?


What's VHS? ;)

CFMNH44
02-23-2009, 09:23 PM
How much can I sell my collection of old Playboy VHS tapes for?

Got issue #1 - Marilyn Monroe Miss December 1953?! Yeah, a little before my time too. ;)

I haven't read one in years, but I'll be sad to see it go. He was one of the founders of the sexual revolution. All of us benefit for his work.

I still want to be a photographer for Playboy 'when I grow up'!

Honey71783
02-23-2009, 10:56 PM
Now I'll never become a Playmate!!! :weeping:

threlayer
02-24-2009, 11:48 AM
What's VHS? ;)

big version of a cassette but video instead

The set of 12 were given to me and I'm not interested in keeping them, but I don't want to just throw them all out or even re-record them.

Eric Stoner
02-24-2009, 05:22 PM
^^ Problem is that the women, who want to look their best, believe that the artificially perfected image is what they need to compare to. When most they can't achieve that in real life, then to some it becomes harmful.

I can see that as harmful to men as well, when they believe that perfected ideal is what they want. If someone is so much into achieving that ideal, I can see that some might have little else in life that interests them. So is that what your want your girlfriend to be like? Really?

Afaic, anyone, male or female who seriously expects women to look like the Playmates in Playboy needs a serious reality check. I've met a number of Playmates in real life along with a good number of published figure and glamour models. None "looked as good" as they did in their photos. They all benfitted from the lighting; make-up and re-touching. So what ?

There 's a fine line between an unrealistic ideal and an excuse for not trying to look your best. Most women I know understand the difference. Although I have to admit, I wish more of the men did.

Otoki
03-20-2009, 11:53 PM
Afaic, anyone, male or female who seriously expects women to look like the Playmates in Playboy needs a serious reality check. I've met a number of Playmates in real life along with a good number of published figure and glamour models. None "looked as good" as they did in their photos. They all benfitted from the lighting; make-up and re-touching. So what ?

There 's a fine line between an unrealistic ideal and an excuse for not trying to look your best. Most women I know understand the difference. Although I have to admit, I wish more of the men did.
I think it basically comes down to the fact that lots of people need serious reality checks;D

I think playboy served a great purpose at first, but became stagnant. I don't really see the point of most of their photos, because there's very little diversity. I like some variety in my porn;)

nina888
03-29-2009, 05:03 PM
I just think the media in general over the last 20 years has created poor image based ideals. Although i am an attractive girl i know the difference between naturally good looking and fake. I also know that any woman can make herself sexier by taking on a healthy approach. Exercise, diet and attitude make for a much better aura on oneself. The main thing that most of these magazines promote is physical perfection, and more often than not that is acheived through plastic enhancement and other procedures.

This is not the same as health. I have encountered it in every facet of my life and its nauseating to see where it has escalated to at this point in 2009. I see most of those "models" as the modern stepford wives, rather than sexually empowered woman - although some are the exception to what has become the norm. Everytime i hear someone tell me- "you should be a model" all i can do is wish they could see what really goes on in that world and stop deluding themselves into thinking the wholesome girl next door really has a half a shot at it in these modern times. Whats worse yet to think of is the fact that the majority of women who go for surgery (which is expensive and dangerous) where already physically "attractive" to begin with but were seeking that specific image that is so sadly hankered after due to the media's portrail of what is sexy and attractive.

mysteryman
05-14-2009, 08:15 AM
Playboy is a Global Icon. Its the mystic of the American women marketed globally. Or at least it was, now its falling a part. Hef had the Playboy Inc saling high until the company fell on bad times due to loss of gambling licenses and over extending itself with the Playboy Clubs.

As time went by the company limped along and hes never fully recovered. So now with the economy tanking its only a matter of time before the Bunny goes bust. Unless someone comes in and buys out the stockholders this company is slowly dieing.

Lurk3r
05-14-2009, 09:58 AM
I just think the media in general over the last 20 years has created poor image based ideals. Although i am an attractive girl i know the difference between naturally good looking and fake. I also know that any woman can make herself sexier by taking on a healthy approach. Exercise, diet and attitude make for a much better aura on oneself. The main thing that most of these magazines promote is physical perfection, and more often than not that is acheived through plastic enhancement and other procedures.

I think the media's influence on this is highly overrated. In particular, you mentionned something about having been fired for being 'thick'. I'm sorry to hear that, but I feel that it's simply natural for the large majority of people to prefer the look of a thin/fit looking woman over the look of a thick one.

The phenomenon you're complaining about is inevitable and peoples preferences are not going to change just because you try to tell them that it's ok to be thick, surgery is bad, etc. Those preferences don't come from the media like some people want to believe. As I said in the paragraph above, they're natural.

I do find it sad to see that some people go way overboard with surgeries, but breast augmentation is part of the game and is here to stay. Surely there are some disadvantages to it, but it's just not something worth fighting against or complaining about because there's no winning that fight. If it makes you feel inadequate, my advice is find yourself a really good surgeon and just go for it. Otherwise where's the problem... the way i see it, it just potentially negates the unfair advantage that naturally big boobed girls have over the rest :D

Mr Hyde
05-14-2009, 11:23 PM
I know this is gunna sound weird cus i am a stripper and Playboy is in the same "arena" as my profession............ but I hate Playboy.

I dont like the look that they are promoting at all, nor the mindset. The women on that god- awful television show "girls next door" are the posterchild for the american bimbo. i dont ever want to look, act, or think like any of them. If you pay attention, they cant even laugh without sounding fake. To me Playboy is like a giant ad for modern stepford wives- doting little bunnies with perfect bodies (thanks to plastic surgery) and no brains.

Agreed. Those three dumb sluts used to make me nuts...I watched that show a few times and then said to myself "Myself, these people are about as stupid as fenceposts...why are you watching this crap? It's not even good crap."

I don't mind Playboy models but the "look" you are describing bugs me too...

Mr Hyde
05-14-2009, 11:31 PM
In its heyday it had almost no competition. Now genericily speaking you have the maxims, mens journals, etc that all have done a better job of being revelent and entertaining. Naked ladies can be found everywhere. Ill browse through a lot of magazines, but I have no interest in looking at a playboy. The last few times I looked at one it seemed dated, out of touch, and I was turned off by all the unnatural airbrushing. I think Hefs public profile and percieved influence on the mag hurt its image also. When it is gone I won't miss it.

Another "agreed." I haven't picked up a Playboy in ages, but the last time I did it was basically the same Playboy I used to sneak in my friend's dad's house in the 70s...pretentious advice columns about stereo systems and how to properly wear an ascot, interviews with Vegas lounge acts, etc. It caters to a man who was born in 1940 but those guys don't give a crap anymore about Playboy and advertisers don't want to put ads for Geritol in Playboy. Plus, while most guys think Hef is living the dream, they also see him as a bit of a joke too...like, none of these women are really attracted to him, he's just the ultimate sugar daddy, and sugar daddies are kinda sad.

Some form of Playboy will survive....the logo is iconic, the cache of the Playmate is still large, and the "Playboy image" has lots of power...but it's all gonna have to be used in a much different way to make money and stay relevant.

Otoki
05-15-2009, 08:12 AM
I think the media's influence on this is highly overrated. In particular, you mentionned something about having been fired for being 'thick'. I'm sorry to hear that, but I feel that it's simply natural for the large majority of people to prefer the look of a thin/fit looking woman over the look of a thick one.

The phenomenon you're complaining about is inevitable and peoples preferences are not going to change just because you try to tell them that it's ok to be thick, surgery is bad, etc. Those preferences don't come from the media like some people want to believe. As I said in the paragraph above, they're natural.

I do find it sad to see that some people go way overboard with surgeries, but breast augmentation is part of the game and is here to stay. Surely there are some disadvantages to it, but it's just not something worth fighting against or complaining about because there's no winning that fight. If it makes you feel inadequate, my advice is find yourself a really good surgeon and just go for it. Otherwise where's the problem... the way i see it, it just potentially negates the unfair advantage that naturally big boobed girls have over the rest :D
Wow. I don't even know how to respond to your borderline personal attacks nina888, so I'll just stick with your assumption about "mainstream aesthetic".

She wasn't necessarily saying plastic surgery is bad, she was saying that the standard (in playboy) almost always INVOLVING plastic surgery sends a negative message. Playboy used to be rebellious. It used to question the taboo nature of sexuality, sexual image, etc. It also used to feature what we would now call "thick" women, like Marylin Monroe, so I don't know what the fuck you're going on about with your comment about skinniness and the mainstream ideas of "beauty". The nineties are over, buddy.

Also, I don't understand your attitude of saying "breast augmentation (or anything else) is here to stay, so complaining about it is a waste of time". BA's are not bad in and of themselves. However, I think nina888 was taking issue with the way BAs have become so mainstream (and the mainstream image of beauty is starting to involve them more and more) that it causes fewer women to be happy with their natural bodies (similar to how the anorexic looking waif models from the nineties made healthy women feel horrible about not being sticks).

Of course body image is something one should work on from the inside, but one should also question the prevalence of beauty ideals based on impossible standards, or at least impossible without extreme measures like surgery. I think it is completely valid to complain about the lack of natural (and healthy) beauty ideals in popular media. Thankfully, that's starting to change, but it's taking a damned long time.

Oh, and on this site, don't ever tell a dancer that she should get surgery to "fix" an "inadequacy" (which she never said she felt). It just makes you look like a huge PL.

Britney_B
05-15-2009, 09:14 AM
Actually in more recent years Playboy has been using more "natural" models meaning no breast augmentations. Don't get me wrong I hate the lack of diversity in the magazine.

Eric Stoner
05-27-2009, 07:41 AM
Latest word has Richard Branson of Virgin trying to buy Playboy. Hefner reportedly wants $300 Million = rotflmao ! He'll be lucky to get 1/3 of that.

CFMNH44
05-27-2009, 08:23 AM
No matter what your personal opinion, you have to admire his business savvy. Hefner has reinvented himself and the Playboy brand several times over the years. I suspect a mere $100M will last him nicely the rest of his days, and allow him to continue his lifestyle, albeit maybe without the 'carrot' of being able to offer the career launch for playmates... Gotta give him credit - how many entrepreneurs launch a company and keep it going for 50+ years? I also suspect he had a bit more fun than most CEOs... ;-)

Eric Stoner
05-27-2009, 11:32 AM
No matter what your personal opinion, you have to admire his business savvy. Hefner has reinvented himself and the Playboy brand several times over the years. I suspect a mere $100M will last him nicely the rest of his days, and allow him to continue his lifestyle, albeit maybe without the 'carrot' of being able to offer the career launch for playmates... Gotta give him credit - how many entrepreneurs launch a company and keep it going for 50+ years? I also suspect he had a bit more fun than most CEOs... ;-)

For decades, Hugh Hefner has NOT been running Playboy. His daughter Christie has. Up until a couple of years ago, she did a pretty good job. However, the magazine started sliding downhill long before the recession started. Ad pages and ad revenues have been going steadily down for quite some time. Sales of Playboy DVD's are way off from the 90's. Licensing and cross-promotion is way off.

In short, after Hugh Hefner re-energized the brand following his separation from Kimberly in the late 90's and first few years of this decade, PLAYBOY has resumed its downhill slide.

mysteryman
06-06-2009, 10:17 PM
Buy out, delisting, and taking the company private is whats needed.

anacol
06-19-2009, 09:41 AM
Wow. I don't even know how to respond to your borderline personal attacks nina888, so I'll just stick with your assumption about "mainstream aesthetic".

She wasn't necessarily saying plastic surgery is bad, she was saying that the standard (in playboy) almost always INVOLVING plastic surgery sends a negative message. Playboy used to be rebellious. It used to question the taboo nature of sexuality, sexual image, etc. It also used to feature what we would now call "thick" women, like Marylin Monroe, so I don't know what the fuck you're going on about with your comment about skinniness and the mainstream ideas of "beauty". The nineties are over, buddy.

Also, I don't understand your attitude of saying "breast augmentation (or anything else) is here to stay, so complaining about it is a waste of time". BA's are not bad in and of themselves. However, I think nina888 was taking issue with the way BAs have become so mainstream (and the mainstream image of beauty is starting to involve them more and more) that it causes fewer women to be happy with their natural bodies (similar to how the anorexic looking waif models from the nineties made healthy women feel horrible about not being sticks).

Of course body image is something one should work on from the inside, but one should also question the prevalence of beauty ideals based on impossible standards, or at least impossible without extreme measures like surgery. I think it is completely valid to complain about the lack of natural (and healthy) beauty ideals in popular media. Thankfully, that's starting to change, but it's taking a damned long time.

Oh, and on this site, don't ever tell a dancer that she should get surgery to "fix" an "inadequacy" (which she never said she felt). It just makes you look like a huge PL.


I think personally, that all companies and people should stop discriminating on alot of people like race, sex, and body type. Eventually maybe the world will wakeup and see that we are all people and we all deserve the same respect and that we all pride ourselves in who we are. I hate it too when someone discriminates on body size and race, that's just wrong. I've been in the modeling business and it's hard for a black woman in that business and definitely for thicker women they do the same thing to them as they do to black girls. They try to have as few as possible or if they can, not any at all. I just say, if you can speak up about it to get someone's attention, never keep it quiet always say something about those type of situations and just keep your head up and love yourself and do what makes you happy for you and noone else. :)

Melonie
06-19-2009, 01:19 PM
^^^ all wishful thinking and socio-economic speculation aside, in the final analysis Playboy magazine boils down to being a 'for profit' business ... specifically a business which relies on advertising revenues from companies that produce non-essential consumer goods targeted towards the 'upper middle class'.

As the economy has declined, and specifically as the 'upper middle class' has been hit with Wall St. / Detroit etc. layoffs as well as state and local tax increases, these days a lot more 'upper middle class' people are looking to sell their sports car or performance motorcycle or speedboat etc. than buy them ( Playboy typically carried glossy full page ads for all of these ) !

I would also point out that this week's passage of the new Tobacco regulation bill dealt yet another blow to Playboy magazine, since the new bill effectively bans all future cigarette advertising.


Ultimately Playboy faces the same dilemma that the US economy does in general. Even if 'uber-rich' people still have millions of dollars to spend on non-essential luxury items, there simply aren't enough of them to support 'upscale non-essential' businesses. That also requires the buying demand of 'upper middle class' customers to provide enough overall sales volume to make the business model profitable. This same principle is responsible for the 'forced' sale of Porsche and Eddie Bauer right along with Playboy.

sugartaste
06-19-2009, 02:02 PM
I think personally, that all companies and people should stop discriminating on alot of people like race, sex, and body type. Eventually maybe the world will wakeup and see that we are all people and we all deserve the same respect and that we all pride ourselves in who we are. I hate it too when someone discriminates on body size and race, that's just wrong. I've been in the modeling business and it's hard for a black woman in that business and definitely for thicker women they do the same thing to them as they do to black girls. They try to have as few as possible or if they can, not any at all. I just say, if you can speak up about it to get someone's attention, never keep it quiet always say something about those type of situations and just keep your head up and love yourself and do what makes you happy for you and noone else. :)

Just for the record, this year's Playmate of the Year is a WOC (and she is very, very stunningly beautiful). It may have taken them 20 years since the last woc PMOY, but don't give up all hope just yet :)

Melonie
06-20-2009, 12:19 AM
^^^ I hesitate to post this because it will probably be taken wrong ... but ...

Going back to Playboy's business model, choosing Ida Ljungqvist as the 2009 PMOY has not gone over very well from a commercial standpoint. Unfortunately, this only adds to Playboy's immediate financial problems.

WiseGuy_TX
06-20-2009, 05:31 AM
...maybe Super Trump will swoop in and rescue another beauty institution in distress.

Eric Stoner
06-22-2009, 07:58 AM
Another sign of the times : Playboy is publishing a "Double Summer Issue" i.e. July and August rolled into one in an obvious effort to save on publishing costs.

mysteryman
06-22-2009, 07:26 PM
Yes the publishing industry is on a major backslide. Many magazines will start to go back to 6 publications a year, and even quarterly issues.

Technology is moving at such a rate to deliver news and information that magazines and newspapers are going to be obsolete.

Melonie
06-23-2009, 03:09 PM
^^^ but Playboy has a very active segment involving a pay website ... also pay per view cable TV ... also DVD video sales. If this were strictly a 'buggy whip' technology question, these other segments would remain highly profitable while print media would be 'suffering' alone. However, this is not the case with Playboy, where ALL of these other segments are also suffering. Arguably the problem is with Playboy's basic 'business model' i.e. attempting to sell the image of extremely attractive women in the absence of sex acts. Coincidentally, this is the same problem facing many 'old school' exotic dancers these days !

NaughtyBebe
06-23-2009, 03:22 PM
Ida looks very nice as PMOY. I like her breasts which are of course enhanced, but look pretty nice. She looks mixed race to me. She's prettier than last years PMOY to me, but most of the girls are pretty in my opinion.


Hef is 83 now! Damn, he is way old and his empire is dying I guess,but what a long run.

whirlerz
03-25-2016, 06:31 PM
Bumping this. :)

Mare
04-21-2016, 11:44 AM
I raise the bump and I'm going to add that a friend of mine told me the arabs have a big portion of the control now and they're trying to change the culture of America from within. I got that after I said his daughter took control and all of a sudden no nudes. But who knows. I looked and couldn't find any info on that.

audritwo
05-01-2016, 07:19 PM
I raise the bump and I'm going to add that a friend of mine told me the arabs have a big portion of the control now and they're trying to change the culture of America from within. I got that after I said his daughter took control and all of a sudden no nudes. But who knows. I looked and couldn't find any info on that.

What? That sounds like a conspiracy theory. Do you have any proof to back these accusations? Actual proof, not hear say.

whirlerz
05-01-2016, 10:45 PM
I raise the bump and I'm going to add that a friend of mine told me the arabs have a big portion of the control now and they're trying to change the culture of America from within. I got that after I said his daughter took control and all of a sudden no nudes. But who knows. I looked and couldn't find any info on that.

According to what I understand, his daughter's been retired for 7 yrs now. I forgot the name of the CEO now.

Mare
05-06-2016, 10:53 AM
[QUOTE=Mare;2873224 But who knows. I looked and couldn't find any info on that.[/QUOTE]
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