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Laurisa
11-05-2009, 12:41 PM
^^^I've done it a handful of times. Is it a big waste of money?

Well let me answer like this.

The escort thing is a risk as it is illegal in the USA. Would suck to fuck up your whole life over it, but okay, putting that aside (there may be ways to mitigate that risk) -

Some of us just aren't going to have sex with a stranger for various reasons including we're in relationships, or just don't have sex casually for various reasons (risk, we want the connection, whatever reasons). It stops at some occasional fantasy in S.C. If that is a waste then really all of SCs are a waste and customers might as well just save their money for sex (but I'm guessing you'd agree there is actually nothing wrong with stopping short of sex).

The VIP rooms can be over priced or equivalently priced to just doing the same thing on the floor. At $20 for a 3 minute song it works out to about $400 an hour, basically the same. The main difference is if after a dance or two it's not working you can more easily walk away. Assuming they don't tack on a bunch of bogus fees, then it's basically just an hour with additional privacy.

OTOH on rare occasion I've relaxed for an hour in VIP and of those, I'd say I was treated amazing for that hour. Was it worth it? Hmm... in a way yes, it's a unique experience and like a mini vacation from self.

Would I do it often? Nope. There is just too much competition for my entertainment dollar and while it is fun, just like an expensive meal is sometimes fun, I'm not an addict or wealthy enough to just blow my money carelessly.
I can definitely appreciate going into the VIP a few times a year for a special treat, or just once to try it out. I just don't get the guys that go into the strip clubs night after night and head into the VIP. Strip clubs weren't designed for women, though, were they? I have never solicited a prostitute, and I personally don't have a need to. (I'm not a lonely, older male, though). I would much rather go to a swingers club or meet someone online for group sex with my boyfriend. Have I had sex with strangers before? Yes, but it was a one night stand and I didn't get paid. :'(

Personally, I don't condone escorting because it is illegal. I can't risk having a prostitution charge on my record, but I don't frown upon the women that do it. Brothels in Nevada are VERY successful, and many of the women only work a few months out of the year. I think that pornography and escorting are not that different. I understand the logistics of the business are different, but in both a porn star and an escort are being paid to have sex with someone. The only difference that I can see is who is cutting them a check. Pornography is legal, which is why I cannot look down upon escorts. Just my $0.02.

lopaw
11-05-2009, 08:46 PM
I can definitely appreciate going into the VIP a few times a year for a special treat, or just once to try it out. I just don't get the guys that go into the strip clubs night after night and head into the VIP.

It most certainly depends (at least to me) on what is being offered in VIP. I don't go every night, of course....but I go often enough and am fully aware of what the contact level will be before entering. It also helps that where I club the VIP prices aren't ridiculously overpriced, which helps keep my budget intact. ;D



Strip clubs weren't designed for women, though, were they?

As far as I can see they were designed for lovers of women, regardless of their gender ;)

xdamage
11-06-2009, 05:20 AM
I can definitely appreciate going into the VIP a few times a year for a special treat, or just once to try it out. I just don't get the guys that go into the strip clubs night after night and head into the VIP. Strip clubs weren't designed for women, though, were they? I have never solicited a prostitute, and I personally don't have a need to. (I'm not a lonely, older male, though). I would much rather go to a swingers club or meet someone online for group sex with my boyfriend. Have I had sex with strangers before? Yes, but it was a one night stand and I didn't get paid.

Sure, and I was thinking more like going to VIP a few times total in life. But there are people who are obsessive and spend a lot on strip clubs. If they can afford it, and want it, enjoy.

My next comment is not directed specifically at you as I've read you posts, they are well reasoned, enjoyable, just a general comment since it is a pattern that repeats itself endlessly on these boards, and that is the conflict of interests and gloat have two sides.

See it could be that one day lonely older (and younger) males all wake up and realize you know what, "I don't need or want this to be happy" and start spending their money elsewhere, putting their extra money into others pockets than into the pockets of dancers. Hey, maybe they will spend it on making themselves more attractive to women in general?

Or it could be in the future when a dancer is older, when her looks have faded, when men no longer desire her, that her husband, fathers, brothers etc., are out spending a lot of the family money on hotter younger dancers, because just as the men before them spent on dancers and accepted it as a positive form of entertainment without stigma, so will some men in the life of a dancer.

Then again it could be dancers all wake up and decide you know what? Customers suck... this is not worth it, and customers are wishing for hot, young, women to do it again.

Point? Not much other then people commonly wish or want for things, but they almost never mean the negatives that would come with getting their wishes. People often profit because of the very negatives that they complain about and/or contribute too. It is a pattern that repeats itself endlessly in life.

KiwiStrawberry Splenda
11-06-2009, 02:45 PM
I've had some rad times as a custy in the VIP. Don't knock it until you've tried it. CH2 in Vegas..RIP. :) :) :)

clubnewbie
11-25-2009, 11:01 AM
I have only done one vip room. I was a regular and our dances kept escalating to the most you can get away with in the lapdance area. She says in the vip I'll get to eat her out. One day we go back there. She says there are no cameras in this booth. I'm thinking I'll get to go down for most of the half hour. Instead, she spends most of the time talking and in between she keeps poking her head under the curtain to see if the bouncer is coming. Finally she thinks the coast is clear and tells me to go for it. I get one lick and then she pulls back and looks under the curtain again. By then our time was up.

I did feel cheated at first but kept getting dances with her. Luckily she kept giving extreme lap dances and she never mentioned the vip again. I just considered the vip money as a nice tip for what she gave me during lapdances.

Chili Palmer
11-25-2009, 11:05 AM
I've had some rad times as a custy in the VIP. Don't knock it until you've tried it. CH2 in Vegas..RIP. :) :) :)

Amen, sister. Dayshift. Older blonde with the huge boobs, the corner table was her "office." No gag reflex. Good times.

CP

Vyanka
11-29-2009, 11:14 AM
Multiple variables -

You'd have to add up the cost per dance on the floor versus buying a fixed length of time in a VIP room. Also factor in that some clubs offer increased privacy in the VIP area, if it is more or less the same cost, the privacy does have some value even if one is not doing extras.

Could be too he is a customer that believes in paying if you're going to keep her busy for a while. The VIP can be quieter and a more enjoyable setting. Is it worth $300? Well... is some pressed rice and a few bits of raw fish and soy sauce worth $100 (aka sushi)? Up to the buyer. Luxuries are worth whatever people think they are worth. Maybe not to you, but it might be worth it to him.

Not everyone is comfortable with extras for various reasons ranging from personal limits on how much sexual contact they want in a paid-for situation versus in a connected relationship; some have wives/gfs they'd rather not cheat on; there is risk of STDs; it is illegal and not everyone wants to risk an arrest; various combinations of those factors.

For those of us who have reasons not to do extras, we're really not measuring the value of VIP in terms of what extras we can get. After all, if extras and price was our key goal, we could pay an escort even less for more.




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Ding! ;D

You Know Me
11-30-2009, 03:16 PM
The club i go to is 125 per half hour with no tip out to anyone. Thats 8 songs for the price of 5. I am buying quantity so it better be a better deal than normal. I might could be coaxed into 150 per half hour but that is about it. As far as privacy goes you can just go to a secluded dark area in the corner and get that. If you have a naughty girl, she knows how to keep it hidden and doesnt need the privacy. It depends on the club, the girl, and the lighting. Atlanta has rooms with doors all nude full contact half hours for 150.00 with no interuptions. So a 300 half hour just is insane.