View Full Version : Is my look too extreme? (with pics)
JoJoX
03-21-2009, 02:38 AM
You are hot and I LOVE that extreme look but honestly, you need to tone it down a bit. Men are like retarded children- anything too extreme or too foreign, they'd freak out and don't know what to do. You gotta give it to them slowly.
And also think, you are in the service industry servicing fantasy, allusion, and company to men. Customer satisfaction=money.There is a way to have your own style plus looking like something most men are attracted to. All you have to do is tone it down. And your body is hot. So is your face.
Alice Xtacy
03-23-2009, 10:55 PM
Actually I find your look very sexy!
Keep it up.
= ]
mjsmith66
03-24-2009, 06:36 PM
I think you are very attractive. My freind is quite pale. She usually wears some nice sheer suntan nylons. They go with all colors and they have a sexy retro appeal.
baby Q
03-24-2009, 07:44 PM
your look def. is not the common look in a stripclub but i think it could work for you. it makes u stand out. i think the younger guys would be more intimidated by you than the older guys. i think older guys would be more acceptable whereas younger guys would just look at you. just from my experience, older guys realize that women come in all form and fashion whereas younger guys tend to stick to what they're familiar with or what is stereotypical in a stripclub.
echomadison
03-24-2009, 09:00 PM
I think if you want to make good money it would be wise to tone your look down alot. Some chain clubs wont even hire a girl with large tattoos so of course having an extreme alt image would not fly. I have danced for 7 years and of those 7 years I have had a friend who was very alt/goth/hardcore and I can attest to her. She would occasionally make good money but it wasnt regular, she did get alot of attention but most of it was negative. Guys were "afraid" of her because she looked "freaky" or "scary" to them...that doesnt make you any money. My friend REFUSED to change her style because she thought it was "selling out" (DUH! Thats the job! Appealing to people.) so she always made shit money and complained. She is a very beautiful girl but her "image" got in the way of her potential because it alienated too many customers. Also, I seemed to notice that ALL the girls thought she was drop dead gorgeous, the most beautiful thing they had ever seen, most of them had crushes on her - she could turn a nun lesbian! But in the end, that isnt what mattered...
Wintre
03-26-2009, 02:06 AM
The other day at work I thought of this thread.
I was wearing one of my favourite outfits. I was feeling incredibly hot wearing this black lace mini dress with these goregous red thigh-highs, and was totally feeling it...except I realized that what I was wearing also affected my attitude. I was feeling more like the hot girl who just stares at you from across the room, thinking she's above you, instead of the cute bubbly stripper whose dark looks are deceiving. The whole goth look is in a way intended to be intimidating, no? So I went and changed into something girly with white lace, and it totally changed my mindset and I ended up doing really well that night.
holly07
03-27-2009, 01:52 AM
I think you have pretty face, BUT you can only sell to x amount of certain guys looking like that. You're not going to attract BIG $$$, call it selling out but, the older guys in the suits like a normal hair color, trim , and fit. ( hey back in h.s I used to be goth, but come on, I 'm still a freak inside, I don't have to prove it anymore, by shocking people)Old guys are what pay the bills and your're going to scare them or they won't take you seriously. Honey you need to think how u can market yourself universally to everyone?
Rocket!
03-27-2009, 04:29 AM
HI! Personally, I think you are super hot. I for one would spend lots of money on you!! But given that I live in Oregon and you are in Philly, that is not gonna happen. :(
I have kind of a "sharp/alternative" look as well, and I carry myself in a really strong/proud way (can't help it, just the way i am) and I have been told by many customers that my look and manner was intimidating. It is really amazing how much personality can win someone over. I've had customers tell me that they were a bit intimidated by my looks, but once I came over and introduced myself, they immediately liked me. I think the key is to be super-friendly, but still stay true to the style you like.
DanikaStar
03-29-2009, 06:04 AM
I have no idea about the intimidation, seeing as I don't dance yet, but you have beautiful skin :)
Rocket!
03-29-2009, 10:47 PM
I have no idea about the intimidation, seeing as I don't dance yet, but you have beautiful skin :)
Aw, well thank you.
To clarify about being intimidating, I just mean that a lot of the men who come into the club with money to spend are of an older generation, one that is often not used to the "alternative look". Even though they they might actually like it and be curious about your style, because you are so different from the women they are used to, they may not know how to approach you. Being super friendly can counteract that and potentially make you a lot of money with that particular type of customer.
Let us know how it goes when you start dancing.
ScarletPhoenix
04-02-2009, 02:38 AM
Everything Wintre said.
If you're in Dallas, TX, don't change a thing, and go straight to the Clubhouse. You will probably not even be the most extreme-looking girl there.
This is somewhat true. We ladies of the clubhouse (been working there for some time now) DO get away with lots of weirdness. We have girls with mohawks, a stripper with one arm, girls with "metal hair" a la the 80's, a girl who wears vampire teeth, etc . . .
The place is owned by Vinnie Paul, from Pantera. Rocker chicks preside.
HOWEVER, there are two points to consider:
- our most CONSISTENT top earners are "girl next door" types.
- all of us "weirdos" (myself included) see much improved earnings when we glam/girlie it up as much as we can. I had very little success at this club, personally, until I figured that out. My earnings doubled by switching from orange hair to platinum blond. I My friend wears a 2 foot mohawk, yes, but it's blond with pink tips, and she always wears pin-up cat eye liner and red lips. I don't make nearly as much when I wear spike collars as when I wear rhinestone collars. Catch my drift?
So, even in a "gothic" strip club, the preference for mainstream remains.
Oh, and never wear stompy goth boots on stage. They look like crap. Seen it done. Stripper boots are where its at.
chitownchick
04-03-2009, 05:12 PM
I am in the south as well and I know that look wouldnt be something customers would be into, however people are much more opened in other cities. I wear my eyeliner dark and people think i look really goth, however im from chicago and there no one would even consider my look goth. so it really depends on your location. There was a girl that posted on here years ago, not sure if she is still here, she had dread extensions and they were down past her ass. They looked awesome, but she was also working in Australia, so it may be alot more opened down there. I am not sure what her name was, but maybe one of the vets her knows if she is still around?????
kissesfrombambi
04-05-2009, 08:50 PM
I don't really have much productive advice I'm 'fraid, although I think Philly would be a pretty good place to be if you're going to try for that look. I'm down in the south and I don't know it if would fly here.
Just wanted to say that you're really hot! ;D
You are hot but philly would not be the place to go to be honest a lot of guys want mostly video girls down there. NY is the place to go for that sort of look, but to be honest your going to have to shop around for a club if you want to keep that exact look (although i think it rocks) but if you tone it down a little you can be the dominatrix of every guys fantasy good luck girl!
Lola_sinn
04-06-2009, 12:04 PM
You are hot but philly would not be the place to go to be honest a lot of guys want mostly video girls down there. NY is the place to go for that sort of look, but to be honest your going to have to shop around for a club if you want to keep that exact look (although i think it rocks) but if you tone it down a little you can be the dominatrix of every guys fantasy good luck girl!
NY huh? I actually don't know hardly anything about NY even though I am only a couple hours away(I know, I'm so lame). Could you maybe recommend some clubs where I would make good money and not have to change my look too too much? I know I couldn't move to NY just to dance as i am in college in Philly and the cost of living is prohibitively high there anyway, but I definitely wouldn't mind traveling up there on a semi-regular basis to dance.
In other news, to update anyone who might still be reading this:
Still haven't actually gone out to any clubs, but I have been doing a lot of lurking on this board to learn as much as I can. A friend of mine is also thinking about dancing and said she would come out to clubs with me, so I'm thinking of going out to a club or two this weekend. I'll probably try Daydreams first, then maybe Club Risque.
I actually took the dreads out for a few weeks to try and get used to going au naturale...but I think I will still be putting them back in before I try to get work! I've talked to a lot of guys about this including bouncers at other clubs and it seems that the general consensus is that a) I'm hot enough that is doesn't really matter, and b) I rock the look well enough to pull it off. And if I can't get hired, or get hired and don't make good money, I'll just take them out again.
misslizzy
04-26-2009, 11:04 AM
This is somewhat true. We ladies of the clubhouse (been working there for some time now) DO get away with lots of weirdness. We have girls with mohawks, a stripper with one arm, girls with "metal hair" a la the 80's, a girl who wears vampire teeth, etc . . .
The place is owned by Vinnie Paul, from Pantera. Rocker chicks preside.
HOWEVER, there are two points to consider:
- our most CONSISTENT top earners are "girl next door" types.
- all of us "weirdos" (myself included) see much improved earnings when we glam/girlie it up as much as we can. I had very little success at this club, personally, until I figured that out. My earnings doubled by switching from orange hair to platinum blond. I My friend wears a 2 foot mohawk, yes, but it's blond with pink tips, and she always wears pin-up cat eye liner and red lips. I don't make nearly as much when I wear spike collars as when I wear rhinestone collars. Catch my drift?
So, even in a "gothic" strip club, the preference for mainstream remains.
Oh, and never wear stompy goth boots on stage. They look like crap. Seen it done. Stripper boots are where its at.
I hadn't thought of that. I made crap money there too, just like in the rest of Dallas, but I stayed because I liked the work environment. If I'm ever in TX again, I'll try it your way...
Allie Cat
04-27-2009, 12:06 AM
...Also, could anyone reccomend some clubs in Philly that would be likely to accept someone who looks like me? I know Delilah's is out of the question. A friend of mine reccomended Club Risque and Rick's, but I'm curious what you guys think too.
Thanks for all your help! And sorry if this post doesn't make too much sense...I just woke up:O
Hey, I didn't comment before, but how are things going for you?
I hope everything worked out to your advantage.
Toblerone
05-04-2009, 07:30 PM
I think your hair could work really well with more of a schoolgirl look if you want to broaden your audience.
High socks to cover the foot tattoos...
BelleMorte
05-12-2009, 02:31 AM
This is a bit of thread resurrection...
You're a doll.
I don't know of any clubs in Philly.
Look around for an "alternative" club maybe?
I have three tattoos, and a smattering of piercings.
I haven't started dancing yet, but when I do, I will be looking for a less-than-mainstream club.
Anyway, good luck.
BAMBY
05-12-2009, 11:07 AM
I personaallly like the dreadz
Winged Dinghy
05-12-2009, 07:53 PM
Lola_Sinn, have you auditioned yet? I'm curious to know!
xerasedx
07-21-2009, 09:28 PM
Well, personally I really like your look, and think that you should just stick to you. Just like how people like blondes, big boobs, or brown hair , or heavy set there are also ppl that go for your type of look. like me :p I'LL TIP YA BABE YOU'RE SEXY haha nah but forreal, be you.
Pretty_Penny
07-21-2009, 11:11 PM
Everything I was going to say here has been said. I tone down my look a -lot- when I work. I didn't used to, but I have to in order to make money. The only time I don't is if I know it will be PACKED with girls AND customers. In those cases, it's in my best interest to stand out. During Super Bowl week (I'm in tampa) I was "myself" and did well. I occasionally will have a regular customer whom, if I know is coming in, I will "be myself" that day because I know he likes it (when I say that I mean looks-wise.. I'm myself personality wise regardless).
Another thing though, you may notice (as I have) that your money is more varied than other girls. IOW, in general, I either do very very well or not-so-great. This is because when customers -do- like me, they tend to spend a lot because it's difficult for them to find girls "like me" in clubs. I imagine you will find the same is true for you.
upthesadie
07-23-2009, 09:24 PM
In my opinion you're totally hot and you'll be fine. Some people are weird about dreads though, like when I talked about how I wanted to dread my hair people would be like "Eww a stripper with dreads?!" But it may be different having synth dreads since I think most of that comes from dumb people's assumption that dreads are "dirty". Idk I pretty much had a shaved head when I satred dancing and I still appealed to a lot of different guys so don't worry about it, it's good to have a strong look.
black_widow
07-27-2009, 02:00 PM
Honestly, I would tone it down A LOT, depending on where you plan on working.
I have had a hard time getting men to think I'm not "intimidating" or too "goth/punk/rocker" to get dances from. Let me make this clear to you: MEN ARE PUSSIES. They get so freaked out over the stupidest, lamest crap. Like my nose ring. I've had soooo many guys be so weirded out by a simple, basic nose ring that they don't even want to TALK to me, let alone get a dance from me. Because I'm covered in tats, a lot of men take one look and LITERALLY walk the other way, saying that I am "scary".
Let's make this clear: I am NOT scary. Not at all. It's just that men that go to strip clubs are NOT the sort of men that usually see women that look alternative, i.e. they are NOT into the same subcultures we are and seeing a girl that looks "goth" isn't a turn on to them. They are thinking "strip club--strippers--big boobs--blonde hair--Playboy bunny". SAD AS IT IS. Men at strip clubs also have NO SENSE OF HUMOR, no origninality, no personality (usually) and really just no appreciation for any girl who has a PERSONALITY or is creative enough to express herself by dressing in a different way. They just look at all of the things we do, things we consider expressive, as just plain unneccessary, weird, things that misfits who are rejects from society do. They don't understand that it's 2009 and it's totally acceptable to be a girl with a tattoo.
I'm just being honest here. I can't tell you how many times a night I hear "I bet you regret those tattoos now!" >:( I NEVER EVER have regretted a single tattoo I've gotten but I have to play along and explain to them I was young, impulsive ect ect. Like I have to explain away my tattoos, show them that I'm "decent" enough to understand that I "shouldn't have gotten them in the first place", before a custy will dance with me. I HATE IT. I also get so much crap for a piece across my chest that reads "Black Widow" that I've taken to dancing with tons of necklaces to cover it up.
I also have *somewhat* weird hair--definately weird to the customers, but not weird compared to how I've had it before. It's just black and bright red. That's it. I've had 'hawks, dreads, bald ect, so to me, I'm NOT being flamboyant AT ALL, but again, so many customers sit with me and say "Is that RED in your hair...?" and roll their eyes, and when I say yes, they promptly say they are NOT interested.
Plus, I have to wear super conservative (by my standards) outfits to even make anything. I stick to black and red (as I always have) but they are always girly and lacey and *puke* from mainstream places like Fredericks or Victoria's secret. I also try to accessorize with more mainstream pieces like silver bangles and stuff instead of my preference for weird, off the beaten path plastic jewerly from costume stores.
Strip club men just don't *GET* it. They don't get alternative culture at all, they NEVER have fetishes (those men go to dominatrixes or they hire escorts or stuff), they don't have open minds, and they are really really conservative. Even if you get lucky and have some cool guy come in, most likely he will be a tat guy, and not into anything other that the tats--not into the whole subculture of it all.
Be prepared to do a LOT of convincing of customers that you aren't literally insane. You will have to work 2Xs as hard to make money, and you will get a lot of dirty looks, people giving you the stink eye, customers asking SUPER RUDE questions, making fun of you, ect. A lot of the GIRLS will do the same, cliqueing up against the "goth girl" or the "weird girl".
NOW this doesn't happen everywhere, but I've worked at a LOT of places all over the country and for the most part, they are somewhere between this and "tat friendly" meaning you don't have to try AS hard to fit in. There has only ever been one club I've worked at that really LIKED that I was tatted up but even then, even when ALL the girls were alternative, you'd still have the douchey business men who'd come in and look all disgusted and say shit like "where are the REAL strippers??" URRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mainly you'll find that younger, alternative men with (obviously) similar looking style to you will like you. UNFORTUNATELY THEY HAVE NO MONEY. EVER. So really, it sucks, because they will love you but they never buy lots of dances and never tip well because, well, they are young and have no money. The men you WANT dances from, are older, more conservative and they generally HATE tattoos and are the douches that give you dirty looks. SO it really does suck sometimes, but on occassion you'll have some super rich guy who's willing to give you a go. Just keep conversation on a "normal" level-be super friendly, nice, ect don't draw attention to your "weird" things, and just keep trying. Don't start talking about anything weird--no bondage stories, stuff like that--totally TOTALLY weirds men out.
I hate that this is all true, but it is, at least from my opinion. I HATE having to be "normal" or pretending that I don't like my tattoos, or that I'm trying to be more "mainstream". F that. But you gotta do what you gotta do, so whatever......
Oh and be prepared for Satanic questions and for men to assume that since you are "dirty" looking you are a dirty dancer. This happens to me all the time--they think because I am tatted up that I am an extras girl, because I guess tattoos make you a tramp or something. The WORST EVER--thing I hate THE MOST though is other GIRLS who are COMPLETE DICKS to alt girls because they look "weird". I fucking hate that shit!!! What is this?? Highschool?? I have this girl who works with me who hates me because I'm "weird" and she consistantly goes around telling customers that I used to be a streetwalking hooker. For real. She's a thicker blonde chick with a major attitude problem, but unfortunately she's pretty much like most other dancers I've come across--just as mainstream and close minded as the stupid custies.
Good luck!
questella
07-28-2009, 06:39 AM
Hello all, I found this forum a while ago and lurked a little bit, as even though I have never been a dancer I find strip clubs and the people who work in them to be fascinating. Right now I am considering becoming a dancer too, and I thought I should join so I can get better info. This is an awesome forum and I've already learned a lot since joining, which is awesome since you can definitely never be too prepared as a newbie dancer!
Soo, here is what I would like to ask you ladies about. I have an extremely alt look going on. I am super pale, even in the summer sun I barely tan at all. I also have a big tattoo on my left upper arm. I wear my hair in synth dreads. I have tattoos on my feet that I don't like being on display, so I intend to wear big stompy goth boots in the club.
My question is...would this help or hinder my ability to hustle? I have read several posts advising girls not too look too goth or wear too much black as it can intimidate customers. However, I feel that the goth look is very much a part of my identity. I've been dressing this way for probably 7 or 8 years now (I'll be 21 in a couple weeks) and by this point I have definitely evolved my own style that works well for me. In fact I feel awkward and unattractive if I wear too much plain or colorful clothing! I think this is again due to my paleness. I have never had a problem with lack of male attention, despite my "intimidating" sense of style. Hell, many days I can't even go outside in jeans and a grubby hoodie without getting hollered at! Not to mention, I am not at all shy about dancing onstage...I used to go to goth clubs a lot, and I would always dance on the stage rather than the dance floor. The DJ's would often put spotlights on me while I was dancing too...so I must be pretty good to look at!::)
Personally, I think I have the personal style, confidence, and body to pull it off. But then, I have never even set foot in a strip club. What doyou guys (the pros) think? Here's a few links to help you judge. The first two are the way I usually wear my hair, and the second two are just body shots(although they are 5 or 6 months old and I've lost some weight and getten more toned since then). My measurements, in case that is important, are 32F-26-40.
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee90/ssinisterminister/photo1.jpg
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee90/ssinisterminister/lulz.jpg
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee90/ssinisterminister/ghettobooty1.jpg
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee90/ssinisterminister/ghettobooty2.jpg
Also, could anyone reccomend some clubs in Philly that would be likely to accept someone who looks like me? I know Delilah's is out of the question. A friend of mine reccomended Club Risque and Rick's, but I'm curious what you guys think too.
Thanks for all your help! And sorry if this post doesn't make too much sense...I just woke up:O
you look gorgeous. but you're scaring the crap out of dumb guys. I've had to tone down 1000% before i started making good regular money. the type of people i would normally associate I've noticed rarely if ever go into strip clubs and certainly don't have interest in going there and like spending money on strippers.
Sux for me.
But yea, just tone it A LOT and laugh when girls that don't know you see you in your street clothes and are like, "wtf?" and think they're "so not you". A lot of our job is like a presentation and act. And just like in "the real world" you can't really go to 90% of places and get a job with dreads (which I have real ones), maybe even black hair, (a problem a ran into when i was younger when my hair was black for a while, wtf huh). The people that come into the clubs especially with consistent money (not just grandmas b-day present) are the same people that want to all hire and work with the "preppy happy girls".
Unfortunately for us with the more underground look this works out badly. There are little weird things that'll still work though if you can incorporate them into a more mainstream work. Like I've noticed ever since I've had my blonde hair money has been slightly better regularly (yea I still have worse nights). My dreads were copper red, like my hair was forever, and I made no money with red dreads. I didn't really ever do too well with red hair, I dyed it dark brunette for a little and did worse though. I died it fire engine red once and that was just terrible. =/ So even though I have dreads them being bleach blonde they give me a more "beachy fun California" look. Which I lot of people think I'm from, cali, Florida, or some islands, or south America. Somewhere tropical, but they like it.
I had a fake lip ring for a few nights. My money was always terrible when I had it in. It looked real, it was a hoop. They just don't dig it. People asked if it hurt 18,000x though. I've even had fake tattoos many times and have noticed places on your body where they don't have a negative impact. Never noticed them to have a positive one though, not enough people like them but most are just okay with them and uninfected.
I have more examples but I don't want to go into anymore at the moment.
You can see pictures of me at www.blazeBlack.net or my myspace http://myspace.com/questella
If I could get the little last of my weight off and get my "sales game" down I would do sooo well.
That was another thing I noticed, I got the flu this year for the first time and dropped from 120 or so down to 105 lbs and never made more "easy good money" when I went back to work. When I started dancing I weighed up too 150 for a while. Def not "easy good money". But you personally have a gorgeous build and won't have this problem, I just kind of through it down there for other girls that may be reading this. I was told forever, "guys like curves" and actually started to believe it. I've watched it with other girls too that have had dramatic weight changes also so what I've noticed (in this region of the country anyways since it's all I could really study it over a good time) it's been pretty consistent.
MissLucy
07-28-2009, 07:35 AM
You are gorgeous!
I can relate since ive had to tone down for quite a few jobs wether it be modeling or even phone jobs. (which is ridiculous and I usually refuse unless ive been living off of peanut butter and water for two months)
To my point: some people will get off on it, some will be intimidated and read you the wrong way just like in any other business. I suppose the type of club you are in, the customers and how you carry yourself will really determine the outcome.
Only one way to find out. Hope everything works out for you!
Lola_sinn
07-29-2009, 10:39 AM
Haha wow I cannot believe the response this thread has gotten! Thank you all for your thoughtful advice and long rants. It was all very interesting and informative!
For anyone who is interested: I have actually been dancing for a couple months now. I started with the dreads in...but after a couple weeks I had to take them out for pretty much all the reasons y'all listed here. It's strange, IRL people loved them and strangers would constantly tell me how sexy they were, but ITC everyone thought they looked awkward and didn't suit me.
I might put them back in sometime in the future...there are actually a couple girls at my club who wear dreads and do very well for themselves. For now though, I like my natural hair. I started wearing synth dreads back in the day to cover it up while it was growing out, and now it's pretty long. And people love how naturally thick and textured it is. So I guess I started dancing at just the right time!
questella
07-29-2009, 11:15 AM
if you have thick hair that's awesome, my dreads have helped me because my hair was like skeleton hair, like it was so thin that if i pulled it back i looked basically bald (especially if it was blonde). Hair with body is a +++ I've noticed lots of girls rocking those "bump-it" things and lots of girls with tracks. you should post up some new pics. i'd love to see your transformation. <3s
Stripper Hacks
07-29-2009, 01:57 PM
You are super pretty and I personally think your dreads rock.
Don't tan. It's bad for you. Your skin and body are fine.
Anyhow. You are going to attract a niche crowd so that means you are going to have to perfect a hustle and really baby your regulars.
No offense the more played down you are the more customers (the masses) you will attract. In your case you may attract a smaller amount of regulars but they will take care of you.
Work them over and keep delivering your extreme nature. ;)
CherryBomb954
07-31-2009, 09:27 AM
you look gorgeous. but you're scaring the crap out of dumb guys!!
And just like in "the real world" you can't really go to 90% of places and get a job with dreads (which I have real ones), maybe even black hair, (a problem a ran into when i was younger when my hair was black for a while, wtf huh). The people that come into the clubs especially with consistent money (not just grandmas b-day present) are the same people that want to all hire and work with the "preppy happy girls".
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Exactly....dumb guys. Or just not cultured let's say. I don't want to call someone dumb for their preferences, but I really feel like in the smaller towns people are less open minded, as they have been less exposed to a variety of styles and people in general, so have adopted seemingly "cookie cutter" tastes
I always felt more challenged as a dancer with my "rockabilly" look as they call it, here in Tucson. I always did better in Phoenix and didn't have such a difficult time finding fans. Guys seemed to like rock and metal more up there, and would shower me and other "gothic", or "rocker" looking chicks with stage tips. The "gangster wannabe" following was alot less up there at the clubs I worked at.
It always seemed I had to work and hustle twice as hard down here as the natural normal looking girls....either girls with natural looking blonde or light/medium brown hair with highlights, with skin on the tanner side and bigger boobs that danced to hip hop or pop R&B always seemed to have the $$ come easier...if not thrown at them. I would have to go around the room, chair to chair until I found someone who liked my "look" and then pretty much stuck with that person for the rest of the night..
Lola_sinn
07-31-2009, 01:30 PM
if you have thick hair that's awesome, my dreads have helped me because my hair was like skeleton hair, like it was so thin that if i pulled it back i looked basically bald (especially if it was blonde). Hair with body is a +++ I've noticed lots of girls rocking those "bump-it" things and lots of girls with tracks. you should post up some new pics. i'd love to see your transformation. <3s
Sure, tomorrow night when I am at work I will take some pictures and post them on here later! It's definitely a big change.
StitchesH
08-01-2009, 06:17 PM
i saw a girl similar to this in a nice club here, and she did well. She wore corsets. It was hot. Nothing too gothic or punk, but some feminine corsets. It was HER thing and every girl there knew it. She had a great following and also made great money
Pretty_Penny
08-02-2009, 12:45 PM
I figured you'd have to take the dreads out. Sucks, but I'm glad you're doing alright aside from that.
Don't worry too much about the difference between ITC and OTC. The reason so many people tell you it's hot OTC is because the % of "types" of people is different. The strip club environment in general (esp in some areas) tends to be a lot more mainstream. A vast majority of strip club regulars are into the standard "hot look" of the moment. Anything different confuses their closed minded brains. As stated before: I'm pretty bitter.
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Also, you'll notice there's an "acceptable" rock-look... thanks to the current media. It's that very safe "toned-down" but still "playboy" looking version of alternative. I do that look a lot just to try and achieve some middle ground.
It's funny, I remember the first time I came to a work-meeting with all my piercings in, and my "other" going-out clothes on. lol Some girls were actually like "omg that's such a good look on you".... and I'm thinking "uuhh... this IS me".
Also: if you like an older pin-up style look, you should really try that. I do it sometimes and it always goes over well with the older customers. I get the classic-movie-starlet or pin-up comments often. It tends to be more acceptable than the straight up gothic look. The Betty Paige thing never fails. Ever.
Lola_sinn
08-02-2009, 01:32 PM
i saw a girl similar to this in a nice club here, and she did well. She wore corsets. It was hot. Nothing too gothic or punk, but some feminine corsets. It was HER thing and every girl there knew it. She had a great following and also made great money
There is another girl at my club who does the exact same thing, and it works really well for her.
Pretty Penny: I actually already do a pin up girl look! It seems to be working for me too. I wear lots of red and black lace. People have been telling me I look like Betty Page since I was about 15 so it looks really natural on me.
tikismall
08-02-2009, 03:53 PM
Thanks for all the advice ladies! (And the compliments::)) This is very helpful to hear as I was considering going for a more cybery-sex slave look but I guess I will have to scrap that idea. I think I'll try to go super-feminine instead. I wasn't really planning on wearing too much makeup anyway as anything beyond basic eyeliner and maybe some pastel eyeshadow or nude lipstick makes me look washed out and trashy. Wasn't really planning on wearing leather either, but it's still good to know that that's a no-no.
I'm figuring I'll just wear mostly black with the occasional neon or pastel accent...Hell most of my underwear collection looks like that already! I'm also figuring I'll have to act very personable, sweet, and girly so I don't intimidate customers. I was planning on that beforehand but now I know I'll have to double my efforts to be charming.
I actually don't think the dreads will be a huge problem...my friend who has worked in other Philly strip clubs got hired with synth dreads, and I've heard of other dancers in the area who have them actually making very good money.
Thank you! Actually they are 100% real! Just lucky I guess...I remember when I was a 15 year old goth girl and my friends were all jealous because I didn't have to draw them on:D
Just keep in mind who you are and wear what you really like.
Yes, some guys are intimidated for all kinds of reasons but it takes all kinds to make a world.
You're a total fox!
There are plenty of places to work that will accept your style or let you be "the only one". 8) Charm really helps, along with tipping bartenders and cocktailers.
Best advice i've ever been given: Find your niche and work it, what you can't fix you feature, tip and be polite, show up on time and just enjoy yourself.
Don't let anyones negativity get you down and remember that you're the sexiest in your own skin (and your own pvc mini dress) ;)
questella
08-02-2009, 10:24 PM
something that i did that i like and works recently is after i "learned a look that def makes some paper" i've changed little things back towards what i liked before and really study the changes in peoples reactions, money, stage tips, dances, vips, etc. when you get more learned as a entertainer/salesperson you'll be able to make adjustments to really pop out your personality but still stay with what strip club clientele will dig.
Plus I've noticed a huge difference in what will work on day shift, night shift, weekends, weekdays, mondays, sundays, and dayshift night/day also. the different shifts offer different clientele and trying some different shifts you might find people that like your tastes more and you'll be able to collect more regulars. You'll also be able to work better on weeks where you'll have to pick up extra shifts for one thing or another.
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I've also noticed I get better reactions when I have color on my eyes, pinks and reds and browns are best, then greens and purples, never more than one color. with a dark think eyeliner that's blended well into the color. it could be my blonde hair or my eyes. Plus a pinkish pink to a purple blush and dark purple-red lips done with liner then toped with a nude long-last lipstick and a neutral-pink/lt purple gloss. And always fake-lashes but they have to be done VERY WELL and the right shape to where it flows with my eyeliner.
I'm interested in what make up styles people have noticed to have the best reactions with.
rubberstarlet
08-02-2009, 10:30 PM
well I'm from LA and I have seen a good amount of goth/cyber dancers! But thats in my area O_O I'm more of the cyber goth haha and i attract a lot of guys just being at a mall. I was at a club with my friend to just check it out, and customers came up to me @
[email protected] for dances...weird. It feels more like a scene thing. if your areas not into that style you'll prob have to tone your look down :( but I cant realy help you to much on the subject. I'm just going with my experinces and on what I've seen.