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nikkikatz
03-23-2009, 12:40 PM
I have been making pretty decent money,considering the shitty economy but I can't stand the bullshit lately.
There is soo much catty gossip, and nosiness at the club. I have been seeing one of the owners good friends for about 4 months, great guy owns 2 tanning salons, has plently of money, treats me really well. Since I have been seeing him, there has been such jealousy. Oh, why do you still work so much,? Oh, look at you wearing Juicy all the time.That type of crap. I thought I had friends there, but it turns out I don't. I have never done well with girls/women, my whole life I hung out with guys. I don't deal well with friction, I used to like to hang out alittle, have a few drinks but now I have been isolating. Anyone else going through this. I have enough friction with my judgemental sisters and family I don't need it at work too.
Thanks-Nikki

pinkkitten
03-23-2009, 03:37 PM
the only thing i can say is "youre there to make money, not friends"
and im the same way, i mostly hang out amd get along with guys. also try not to give out much personal info, so they have less to talk about.

achickonspeed
03-23-2009, 04:22 PM
Take it as a sign that you are doing well....it sucks that they are envious but there really is nothing you can do except ignore them, and find girlfriends OTC who are secure with themselves and have good self esteem....girls who are insecure tend to flock together and talk shit about the girls who are doing well...consider it a compliment :) and just ignore them the best you can. Good luck.

Crow2
03-23-2009, 06:26 PM
Insecurity. Jealousy.

Make your money, smile - stay away from the bitches and ignore it.
The more you worry about it, the more they win.

Kylea2
03-23-2009, 06:48 PM
There's a great book out called Greed Is Good - The Capitalist Pig Guide to Investing, and I always recommend it. One of the things the author talks about though is that people who are rich or want to be rich often live a lifestyle that is very moderate and people wouldn't expect them to have nearly the money that they have. They got to where they are by not being materialistic and only putting their money in things things like liquid assets that can easily be converted to cash rather than into things that lose value like name brand clothing. I'd suggest not putting a lot into all of the expensive stuff that isn't a liquid asset first, including real estate.

My second suggestion would be to ask the gentleman who you are seeing to not come around the club, and ask the club owner not to mention that you are seeing the other guy anymore. Then stop doing anything that would make them think you have money, like wearing the nice clothes, jewelry etc.

Besides, I hate to be the one to say it, but why on earth would you wear expensive clothes to a club in the first place?! I mean, club locker rooms have got to have one of the highest theft rates I've ever seen. I don't even trust leaving a $20 curling iron around... let alone nice clothes!

Just let the idea that you are in a better financial position than them drop by the wayside, and they'll probably drop the attitude. Know though that this dancers are not your friends, but it's still much better to be able to get along with them.

threlayer
03-26-2009, 07:15 PM
There is a parallel in chicken raising, free-ranging ones at least.

When the hens think one is getting preferential treatment by their feeder, or whatever, they will 'hen peck' that one to death. That's why raisers will snip the small, sharp part of their beaks off

A chicken farmer told me that one, but I don't know any hens personally.

Crow2
03-27-2009, 07:00 PM
There's a great book out called Greed Is Good - The Capitalist Pig Guide to Investing, and I always recommend it. One of the things the author talks about though is that people who are rich or want to be rich often live a lifestyle that is very moderate and people wouldn't expect them to have nearly the money that they have. They got to where they are by not being materialistic and only putting their money in things things like liquid assets that can easily be converted to cash rather than into things that lose value like name brand clothing. I'd suggest not putting a lot into all of the expensive stuff that isn't a liquid asset first, including real estate.

My second suggestion would be to ask the gentleman who you are seeing to not come around the club, and ask the club owner not to mention that you are seeing the other guy anymore. Then stop doing anything that would make them think you have money, like wearing the nice clothes, jewelry etc.

Besides, I hate to be the one to say it, but why on earth would you wear expensive clothes to a club in the first place?! I mean, club locker rooms have got to have one of the highest theft rates I've ever seen. I don't even trust leaving a $20 curling iron around... let alone nice clothes!

Just let the idea that you are in a better financial position than them drop by the wayside, and they'll probably drop the attitude. Know though that this dancers are not your friends, but it's still much better to be able to get along with them.


So.. wearing nice clothes to work is reason enough for an attack? Wow.. no wonder. Now I know.

prettykitty14
03-29-2009, 02:02 PM
I'm so upset I could cry. I have noticed that the girls I work with are becoming much more viscious. What is starting to emerge as a much bigger issue is theft. Mostly money but even stupid shit like sunglasses and ipods. I was ripped off for a twenty here or there from time to time but this girl the other night, I had never seen her before, was the only one in the D/R when I was up. I finished my set and went to call my son before he went to bed and my bag had been ransacked and every dollar was gone. I am so upset I don't know what to do.

sexy_celeste
03-29-2009, 05:09 PM
I'm so upset I could cry. I have noticed that the girls I work with are becoming much more viscious. What is starting to emerge as a much bigger issue is theft. Mostly money but even stupid shit like sunglasses and ipods. I was ripped off for a twenty here or there from time to time but this girl the other night, I had never seen her before, was the only one in the D/R when I was up. I finished my set and went to call my son before he went to bed and my bag had been ransacked and every dollar was gone. I am so upset I don't know what to do.

Hang on, Doesnt your money stay with you for every second of the shift?
Mine LIVES with me constantly, as does my phone (I carry a small purse) and everything else is locked in my locker, with the keys in my purse. Our lockers are pretty good, you CAN break into them, but it takes a while and is noisy (I locked my keys in one day) so you couldnt do it without people noticing.

CKXXX
03-29-2009, 07:47 PM
^^yep..never EVER leave anything of yours unattended and unlocked.If you dont have a locker,get a luggage lock and lock your bag. Even if you know and trust everyone there...it only takes one new girl there to audition to steal all your stuff.

threlayer
03-29-2009, 09:27 PM
Likely some girls are just traveling thieves, always looking to score someone else's stuff, and then moving on. After all ther are very few requirements to working in that field and not many reputations, references are ever required. And that makes for a pretty dirty ballfield.

Fahren
03-30-2009, 01:45 PM
I'm dealing with this as well, the rolling of the eyes and whispers, girls I have known for years now becoming hateful and viscious, this gets worse the more they drink while at work. I worry about getting my stuff stolen as well by people who may have the attitude of "take from those who have." Socialism doesn't work. We got into stripping because we are capitalists, for those of you girls who are sitting on the sidelines spreading hate, verbal disease, stealing, bitching: GET OFF YOUR EFFING ASS, GO HOME AND THINK ABOUT HOW YOU CAN IMPROVE YOUR OWN GAME. YOU ARE IN A RACE WITH YOURSELF! -not with the new blonde, the hot redhead or the other brunette girl next door.

black_widow
04-18-2009, 09:46 PM
When the economy gets bad, the theives come out. In the last three months, I've had my locker in various clubs broken into twice and although I don't leave anything of real value in there, girls have stolen clothing, shoes, DEODORANT (??), and a pre-paid credit card from my purse (thank god I had cancelled it the day before). ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS lock your shit up and even when you do, don't EVER leave anything of real value in there--i.e. your money, electronics, credit cards, IDs, even prescription medication (I had a bottle of my xanax that I take for social anxiety disorder stolen out of a locker too).

As for bitchy girls--they are ALWAYS there, and you just have to develop some thick skin. Who cares what they think of you? Really! What can they possibly do to you that's going to harm you? Say bitchy things to your customers? Customers HATE it when girls rag on each other so the only thing that bitching to custys will get is bad feelings towards the girls saying it! So let them talk--and IGNORE IT. Ignore them. Nothing gets anyone more angry than being ignored, so when they approach you, pretend they don't exsist. Act like they don't exist. AND KNOW, you are at work to WORK, not to make friends. I never ever am friends with my co-workers unless I was friends with them before I started working. It's just a separation of job and personal life that I'm a firm believer in.

Christyismyalias
04-19-2009, 02:23 AM
This is one thing that gets under my skin so bad. It's a natural occurance in a club with a ton of women, but I dealt with this especially bad tonight and left the club very sad. The money was good and the energy was good throughout the club ALL night. And then in the back after last call one girl starts yelling at another and threatening her job and just being nasty. She had "seniority" and the girl was in her way.. I've been there longer and I would never talk to anyone like that. It's all EGO! Strippers (so some reason) sometimes feel like their shit doesn't stink and they have the right to be mean to others. It's ridiculous. The energy in the dressing room went to shit and it was just a shame.. It made me sad b/c I wonder what's going on inside with their own happiness or lack there of that makes them so viscious towards others. It is insecurities and jealousy. No one who is secure and happy with their own lives feels the need to be mean. That's just the truth.
WHY CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG!!!?
We are all in the same boat; we deal with the same shit. Why not have each other's backs instead of being HATERS! You can't love everybody, of course. But going out of your way to be mean is so unnecessary..

chitownchick
04-19-2009, 11:09 AM
When the economy gets bad, the theives come out. In the last three months, I've had my locker in various clubs broken into twice and although I don't leave anything of real value in there, girls have stolen clothing, shoes, DEODORANT (??), and a pre-paid credit card from my purse (thank god I had cancelled it the day before). ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS lock your shit up and even when you do, don't EVER leave anything of real value in there--i.e. your money, electronics, credit cards, IDs, even prescription medication (I had a bottle of my xanax that I take for social anxiety disorder stolen out of a locker too).

As for bitchy girls--they are ALWAYS there, and you just have to develop some thick skin. Who cares what they think of you? Really! What can they possibly do to you that's going to harm you? Say bitchy things to your customers? Customers HATE it when girls rag on each other so the only thing that bitching to custys will get is bad feelings towards the girls saying it! So let them talk--and IGNORE IT. Ignore them. Nothing gets anyone more angry than being ignored, so when they approach you, pretend they don't exsist. Act like they don't exist. AND KNOW, you are at work to WORK, not to make friends. I never ever am friends with my co-workers unless I was friends with them before I started working. It's just a separation of job and personal life that I'm a firm believer in.

you said it!!! ignoring them is the best thing you can do, kill em with kindness as some say. they can be mean but if you dont strike back you are the bigger person and are causing them less reason to attack verbally or physically) and never leave your money anywhere but on yourself. same for pills. I had some pills stolen that were an anti seizure medication (worth nothing on the street) and i also had some diuretics stolen, they were prescription (this is funny) they looked exactly like zanax footballs (the blue 1 mg pills) someone stole them and probably took them or sold them and all that happened was they peed alot hahahah. anyways, dont bring anything valuable to work that you dont have to.

Christyismyalias
04-20-2009, 01:17 AM
kill em with kindness as some say.
trueeee!

MsClaireVoyant
04-20-2009, 02:14 AM
There's always going to be haters, in the strip club or elsewhere. Just in life in general. It's a difficult thing for me to understand because I hate no one and have no interest in drama. I still get haters for no reason, sometimes people claim to hate me or talk shit about me when I don't even know who they are. I don't worry about it, other people's psychotic issues aren't my problem.

Just be polite, professional, trust no one, and watch your back (and your MONEY) at all times.

StarGardenClub
04-23-2009, 10:16 AM
This is all great advice. There are always a few people that kinda poison the group with jealousy, gossip etc.. It's just the nature of the business. Lots of competition, insecurity, alcohol...not a good mix!! Just stay focused on your business and your success. Continue to do your job and do it well.

krchab99
04-23-2009, 02:43 PM
lmao r u for real your dateing the owner and flaunting your fancy stuff in the club and want to know why the girls are mean to you hahaha and on top of that you thought you had friends in the club you NEVER have friends in a club i don't care how nice a girl is to me thats cool for in the dressing room or whatever but i never fool myself into thinking there my friend. sorry to be so harsh but this is just silly everyone knows not to date the owner/managor/bouncer/dj if you are in love with him swich clubs. This is just how clubs work hun sorry.

bettyboop09
04-24-2009, 03:12 AM
Some people are just HATERS! just lie low and do what you gotta do. be strong don't let those haters bring you down. they are not paying your bills, giving you money, or doing anything for you! put them on ignore, they are nothing. and always have a backup plan just in case the relationship with your dude goes sour. becareful

bettyboop09
04-24-2009, 03:16 AM
Insecurity. Jealousy.

Make your money, smile - stay away from the bitches and ignore it.
The more you worry about it, the more they win.

I agree!

misslizzy
04-24-2009, 11:17 AM
I noticed similar stuff at the last club I worked at. I was there for over a month this winter, getting along with pretty much everyone, from girls I've known/worked with for years, to the ones I've known for less time. I left, for two months in AZ, where I ended up making better money than I had been in NJ, and then when I came back... bitchery. Maybe it was a mistake to mention that I had done well in AZ? Who knows? I was asked for figures, and since they were not stellar enough to inspire jealousy (or so I thought) I named a number for an average night for me in AZ.

I can only assume this was my mistake, because of how hard it is to make money around here, compared to a couple of years ago or even last year. All of a sudden, girls I had been fine with for years were getting really needlessly bitchy with me, to the point of real bullying in one case.

I was lucky, in that I was making low enough money there that this was the kick in the ass I needed to switch clubs, at least for the moment. I'm now making more money, and steadier money, with less contact. I guess if switching clubs, even for a short time, isn't an option, just do your job, keep your stuff locked down, and ignore haters. Can you get any help from management? Money is better than friends, in a stripclub.

Christyismyalias
04-25-2009, 02:27 PM
Lots of competition, insecurity, alcohol...not a good mix!!

Exactly..
Focus on you and you will go far... To focus on others is a WASTE OF TIME!

To quote Kanye :)
"And if they hate then let 'em hate and watch the money pile up"

nikkikatz
05-02-2009, 09:32 PM
lmao r u for real your dateing the owner and flaunting your fancy stuff in the club and want to know why the girls are mean to you hahaha and on top of that you thought you had friends in the club you NEVER have friends in a club i don't care how nice a girl is to me thats cool for in the dressing room or whatever but i never fool myself into thinking there my friend. sorry to be so harsh but this is just silly everyone knows not to date the owner/managor/bouncer/dj if you are in love with him swich clubs. This is just how clubs work hun sorry.

I wrote I am dating one of the owners good friends!!! He has NOTHING to do with the business. He dropped in from time to time that is how we met. You really do sound harsh- am I for real? Everyone else on here has been really supportive and helpful. Have a drink hun!

amalya
05-11-2009, 06:34 PM
Just like you can never please every single custie, you can never please every single person you work with.

Other than the obvious contributing factors someone mentioned (alcohol, money, etc.), you can throw in the fact that there's a bunch of women showing their assets for a goal (money). And all of us ladies have hormones that make us lovely creatures, and the same hormones that can turn us into evil bitches.

And it doesn't stop with humans...I remember watching a movie in an Anthropology class about female gorillas and chimpanzees. All the females have a goal (keeping the species going), and compete for the attention of the alpha male. If one female gets preferential treatment from the alpha male, the other females treat her like shit, and don't include her in their social group. Sometimes, if the youngest and/or most attractive female doesn't contribute to the group (like watching the babies) to go off with the male she will most likely have the shit kicked out of her by the other females.

All in all...it's DNA, baby.

Oh, and for keeping $$ safe, use a money garter. I wrap mine around my ankle and shoe, and secure the bills with a rubber band.

goldengrl69
05-14-2009, 04:57 AM
lmao r u for real your dateing the owner and flaunting your fancy stuff in the club and want to know why the girls are mean to you hahaha and on top of that you thought you had friends in the club you NEVER have friends in a club i don't care how nice a girl is to me thats cool for in the dressing room or whatever but i never fool myself into thinking there my friend. sorry to be so harsh but this is just silly everyone knows not to date the owner/managor/bouncer/dj if you are in love with him swich clubs. This is just how clubs work hun sorry.

Ita with all said.

NREXM
05-15-2009, 02:16 PM
Of course other girls are going to be harsh towards you if you are dating someone in management. It gives them the illusion that you are given higher treatment due to your relationship status. If you're going to see someone that works at the club, whether it is an owner, manager, or something close to them, keep it under the table. I get kind of offended at the girls that flaunt their relationships with owners/managers. Even if you aren't dating them directly, dating someone affiliated with them can cause some bouts of jealousy especially if they are loaded.

Otherwise just ignore them. I get along find with the girls at my club simply because I don't talk shit about them, I don't associate myself with them, and I'm kind and respectful. Girls simply stay away from me because I give them the same courtesy. I wouldn't worry about the jealously issues. You're there to make money, not to appease the standards of other girls.

Also, don't flaunt what you have, that would make anyone jealous not just other girls.


And honestly, how do you get your money stolen (for the other girl that posted here). You should keep it with you at all times. I carry a bag around that contains all my earnings. It NEVER leaves my sight.