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vmurphy252
04-30-2009, 08:12 AM
I just got a Flinstones/Bam-bam image...

Jezzebelle
04-30-2009, 08:28 AM
LMAO @ Mr Hyde!!!

Raysworld
04-30-2009, 09:03 AM
Don't listen to this guy, just bonk her on the head and drag her behind a bush.

I agree...how else are you going to have sex with her if she won't let you?

Sometimes conventional methods just don't work.

Everyman
04-30-2009, 09:24 AM
Don't listen to this guy, just bonk her on the head and drag her behind a bush.

Actually I agree, people are much easier to pick up when they're unconscious. They don't fight nearly as much.

Raysworld
04-30-2009, 09:26 AM
Actually I agree, people are much easier to pick up when they're unconscious. They don't fight nearly as much.


ok dude...thats not funny...thats just creepy.

Everyman
04-30-2009, 09:49 AM
ok dude...thats not funny...thats just creepy.

So saying you can bonk them on the head and dragg them behind a bush (to rape them, implied) is funny, but saying you can pick them up (double entendre) easier when they're unconscious, isn't.

Uh........got it, I guess.

Raysworld
04-30-2009, 09:58 AM
So saying you can bonk them on the head and dragg them behind a bush (to rape them, implied) is funny, but saying you can pick them up (double entendre) easier when they're unconscious, isn't.

Uh........got it, I guess.

Double entendre usually only works if its satirical.

Besides two dudes made tasteful rape jokes before you. Why would you come back and almost explicitly say "I rape women"?



Please reevaluate your priorities everyman.

this is a site where primarily dudes pretending to be women post, and we aren't going to have that sort of thing here.

kthxbye

Paris
04-30-2009, 10:22 AM
But i already take HGH and other testosterone-boosters...is that not effort enough?

damn, you women are handful

I suspected as much. ::) Women aren't as concerned so much about how "hot" a guy looks as they are how well he notices that the floor needs to be vacuumed and then actually takes the initiative to do the vacuuming. Now THAT is SEXY!

vmurphy252
04-30-2009, 10:26 AM
^In all fairness, that is hard to demonstrate in a bar, strip club, laundromat, grocery store, or whatever pick-up place the kids are using nowadays.

Paris
04-30-2009, 10:37 AM
^In all fairness, that is hard to demonstrate in a bar, strip club, laundromat, grocery store, or whatever pick-up place the kids are using nowadays.

Not really, it's all about showing sensitivity for the comfort of others. My grandmother used to say a gentleman is easily recognized by his ability to put those around him at ease. I get the impression that both Jack and Ray enjoy making others feel inferior when in their presence.

jack0177057
04-30-2009, 10:38 AM
You're stated objective of picking up "hot" women clearly illustrates your lack of depth, so your best bet is to try to find someone as shallow and superficial as you.

Pursuing “hot” women is shallow??? I suppose you would rather pursue the unattractive sort of women with great personalities... Why do you go to SCs and why do you chat with dancers on this forum? Instead of SCs, you should be visiting charity Bingo games, no?

Dude, why do you try to sound like a girl all the time??? ... Are you a gay man who wishes he was a dancer???... Or do you think you can impress the dancers on this forum, and meet them OTF (outside the forum) by acting like a girl???

Also, your insinuation that “hot” women are shallow and superficial is insulting... All the dancers on this forum are likely to fall in that category and they are anything but shallow and superficial... They are smart and their comments are very thought-provoking and stimulating... (See, I can kiss ass, too... Just not ALL the time, like you...)


What? This sounds more like something a DA's office or a legal seminar would run, but not a Law school since most lawyers rarely see the inside of a court room let alone take the lead in a case going to trial. And since you boast you're salaried at $150,000 this would imply you're corporate counsel and you reside in one of the flyover states. Due to the anonymous nature of this forum, I'm not going to ask you for credentials but lets just say this post makes me highly skeptical of your profession. "TYPE=PICT;ALT="

(1) I went to Baylor Law School in Waco, Texas, which is very litigation-oriented... Call them up and ask them about their prestigious “Practice Court” program... But, Baylor is a very conservative Baptist university,... so don't mention that one of their attorneys is posting on stripperweb.com. Also, ask them what the average salary is for an alumnie who’s been in practice for 10 years. It's probably higher than $150k.

(2) Lawyer’s don’t learn witchcraft or magic to win juries. But, we do have to learn presentation and persuasion skills,... so do teachers,...salesmen,... business executives,... etc. Actually, when I started college I was a media communications major... Now, THAT is one group you really fo have to be skeptical about... Talk about looking behind the screen... It’s ALL about psychological manipulation... specially advertisement... We blew up advertising images from the 70s and 80s and found subliminal images of naked women in them... (They were too small to be noticed by the conscious mind, but were intended to be picked up at a subconscious level.)


^^^ It's hilarious because it's essentially pointless. Heheh. Good job answering your own question. If the site allowed it, I wonder if you'd "Thank" yourself too.

I wasn’t asking for my benefit... As I said before, I’m working on a potential business venture...


Originally Posted by jack0177057
Yeah,... when I go to a bar, I'll do anything and say anything to get laid... It's not that I tell lies,:D... I just play certain "roles":D... to get laid:D....
Genuinely curious, yes I'm sure he is.

Don’t the smiley faces give you a HINT that I was being facetious? What are you,... some kind of wannabe politician that takes things out of context and tries to sling mud at his opponents? You and I are not running for office on this forum and we are not competing for “Mr. SW”, so you need to get off my #$%# and go about your business. I’m not here to waste time with you...


You didn't happen to develp this program one night while you were at home, laying on your couch, perhaps watching VH1 did you? Heh.
http://www.vh1.com/shows/dyn/the_pick_up_artist/series.jhtml

That Mystery guy is just the tip of the iceburg... There is a HUGE,... and I mean fu#@ing HUGE industry of self-help seminars, books, e-books, CDs, DVDs, etc. for men on how to meet and “pickup” attractive women... Just look at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seduction_community

I know,... I find it strange and sad... but, just look at the self-help industry in general... Women have all kinds of self-help books about all kinds of personal issues... Men, on the other hand,... only care about one thing - getting laid by a “hot” girl... And they will pay up to $2000 for a weekend seminar that supposedly teaches them just how to do it... Do the math... 15 guys x $2,000... = $30,000 in one weekend!!! Now think about the overhead,... it's practically nonexistent! You can host a small seminar anywhere... even someone’s house... and the “in-the field” portion of the seminar is held at bars and dance clubs... That’s an awesome business model!!!... There are guys in their 20s and early 30s that are already self-made millionaires selling this shit. A guy by the name of Neil Strauss made about $1.4 million in 24-hours by releasing just 375 “exclusive” copies of his much hyped, top-secret "Annihilation Method" program for $3,799 each!

What I’m creating is self-help system on the franchise model,... which means that the program and materials are very user-friendly and can be used for coaching by anyone (the franchisee)... My only gimmick is that the coaches themselves will be beautiful “hot” women, instead of some young male punk with an over-inflated ego who calls himself a “pickup guru”. When we started this the first time, it generated a lot of interest, but it was hard to compete with the more established “pickup gurus”... So, it takes time...

Here is just an overview of what my self-help program and coaching system entails:
1. Comprehensive Self-Assessment (critical assessment of everything about the guy with a 50- item checklist)
2. Improving Lifestyle (creating the lifestyle of a happy and well-rounded male: participation in sports, recreational activities, hobbies, music, arts & culture)
3. Acquiring Leadership Skills and Traits (even if it means volunteering for charity organizations)
4. Acquiring Fashion Sense (visits to upper-end department store with the coach)
5. Getting Involved in Activities that Expose the Guy to Good-looking women (yoga class, fitness class, arts & culture, etc...)
6. Coping with Approach Anxiety (using same techniques used by actors and other performers)
7. Approach Strategies (Reviewing many different approach strategies and developing a sense for which ones work best for the guy, the place, the situation, and the target female. This is learned mostly through actual practice and experimentation with evaluation and feedback from the coaches.)
8. The Art of Entertaining: Teasing and Bantering (make her laugh; make her comfortable)
9. The Art of Entertaining: Learning to art of Telling Stories (Telling personal real-life stories in amusing, dramatic and suspenseful ways like a pro story teller.)
10. The Art of Entertaining: Self-Discovery Games (women love this stuff - http://community.livejournal.com/quest_or_game)
10. The Art of Entertaining: Mind-Reader (Amusing women by telling them “secret” things about themselves by listening, being perceptive, applying theories of personality-types, etc.)
11. The Art of Entertaining: Knowledge of Upcoming Events (knowing what’s happening around town, what musicians are playing where, etc... so that the guy can slip that into the conversation and turn it into a date)
12. Advanced Human Psychology (Persuasion tricks of salespeople, advertisers and trial attorneys, as applied to mating strategies)

Dancers: Any comments or suggestions are appreciated...

Paris
04-30-2009, 10:41 AM
^^That sounds like a lot of work to get laid. Why not just pony up the $500 and hire a hooker?

Raysworld
04-30-2009, 10:42 AM
Pursuing “hot” women is shallow??? I suppose you would rather pursue the unattractive sort of women with great personalities... Why do you go to SCs and why do you chat with dancers on this forum? Instead of SCs, you should be visiting charity Bingo games, no?

Dude, why do you try to sound like a girl all the time??? ... Are you a gay man who wishes he was a dancer???... Or do you think you can impress the dancers on this forum, and meet them OTF (outside the forum) by acting like a girl???

Also, your insinuation that “hot” women are shallow and superficial is insulting... All the dancers on this forum are likely to fall in that category and they are anything but shallow and superficial... They are smart and their comments are very thought-provoking and stimulating... (See, I can kiss ass, too... Just not ALL the time, like you...)



(1) I went to Baylor Law School in Waco, Texas, which is very litigation-oriented... Call them up and ask them about their prestigious “Practice Court” program... But, Baylor is a very conservative Baptist university,... so don't mention that one of their attorneys is posting on stripperweb.com. Also, ask them what the average salary is for an alumnie who’s been in practice for 10 years. It's probably higher than $150k.

(2) Lawyer’s don’t learn witchcraft or magic to win juries. But, we do have to learn presentation and persuasion skills,... so do teachers,...salesmen,... business executives,... etc. Actually, when I started college I was a media communications major... Now, THAT is one group you really fo have to be skeptical about... Talk about looking behind the screen... It’s ALL about psychological manipulation... specially advertisement... We blew up advertising images from the 70s and 80s and found subliminal images of naked women in them... (They were too small to be noticed by the conscious mind, but were intended to be picked up at a subconscious level.)



I wasn’t asking for my benefit... As I said before, I’m working on a potential business venture...



Don’t the smiley faces give you a HINT that I was being facetious? What are you,... some kind of wannabe politician that takes things out of context and tries to sling mud at his opponents? You and I are not running for office on this forum and we are not competing for “Mr. SW”, so you need to get off my #$%# and go about your business. I’m not here to waste time with you...



That Mystery guy is just the tip of the iceburg... There is a HUGE,... and I mean fu#@ing HUGE industry of self-help seminars, books, e-books, CDs, DVDs, etc. for men on how to meet and “pickup” attractive women... Just look at:


I know,... I find it strange and sad... but, just look at the self-help industry in general... Women have all kinds of self-help books about all kinds of personal issues... Men, on the other hand,... only care about one thing - getting laid by a “hot” girl... And they will pay up to $2000 for a weekend seminar that supposedly teaches them just how to do it... Do the math... 15 guys x $2,000... = $30,000 in one weekend!!! Now think about the overhead,... it's practically nonexistent! You can host a small seminar anywhere... even someone’s house... and the “in-the field” portion of the seminar is held at bars and dance clubs... That’s an awesome business model!!!... There are guys in their 20s and early 30s that are already self-made millionaires selling this shit. A guy by the name of Neil Strauss made about $1.4 million in 24-hours by releasing just 375 “exclusive” copies of his much hyped, top-secret "Annihilation Method" program for $3,799 each!

What I’m creating is self-help system on the franchise model,... which means that the program and materials are very user-friendly and can be used for coaching by anyone (the franchisee)... My only gimmick is that the coaches themselves will be beautiful “hot” women, instead of some young male punk with an over-inflated ego who calls himself a “pickup guru”. When we started this the first time, it generated a lot of interest, but it was hard to compete with the more established “pickup gurus”... So, it takes time...

Here is just an overview of what my self-help program and coaching system entails:
1. Comprehensive Self-Assessment (critical assessment of everything about the guy with a 50- item checklist)
2. Improving Lifestyle (creating the lifestyle of a happy and well-rounded male: participation in sports, recreational activities, hobbies, music, arts & culture)
3. Acquiring Leadership Skills and Traits (even if it means volunteering for charity organizations)
4. Acquiring Fashion Sense (visits to upper-end department store with the coach)
5. Getting Involved in Activities that Expose the Guy to Good-looking women (yoga class, fitness class, arts & culture, etc...)
6. Coping with Approach Anxiety (using same techniques used by actors and other performers)
7. Approach Strategies (Reviewing many different approach strategies and developing a sense for which ones work best for the guy, the place, the situation, and the target female. This is learned mostly through actual practice and experimentation with evaluation and feedback from the coaches.)
8. The Art of Entertaining: Teasing and Bantering (make her laugh; make her comfortable)
9. The Art of Entertaining: Learning to art of Telling Stories (Telling personal real-life stories in amusing, dramatic and suspenseful ways like a pro story teller.)
10. The Art of Entertaining: Self-Discovery Games (women love this stuff - )
10. The Art of Entertaining: Mind-Reader (Amusing women by telling them “secret” things about themselves by listening, being perceptive, applying theories of personality-types, etc.)
11. The Art of Entertaining: Knowledge of Upcoming Events (knowing what’s happening around town, what musicians are playing where, etc... so that the guy can slip that into the conversation and turn it into a date)
12. Advanced Human Psychology (Persuasion tricks of salespeople, advertisers and trial attorneys, as applied to mating strategies)

Dancers: Any comments or suggestions are appreciated...


LMAO!!!!

Jack that post is amazing. Well done sir...well done.

Don't forget to pick-up some Andro at the local GNC though.

Raysworld
04-30-2009, 10:43 AM
^^That sounds like a lot of work to get laid. Why not just pony up the $500 and hire a hooker?

Stigma...

its always about the stigma...

we all seek societies approval in one form or another. Get my drift?

Paris
04-30-2009, 10:46 AM
Stigma...

its always about the stigma...

we all seek societies approval in one form or another. Get my drift?

I work in the sex trade, ergo I'm not too concerned with societal approval.

jack0177057
04-30-2009, 10:47 AM
^^That sounds like a lot of work to get laid. Why not just pony up the $500 and hire a hooker?

“Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today. Teach a man to fish; and you have fed him for a lifetime"

vmurphy252
04-30-2009, 10:52 AM
First of all, thanks for excluding me. Second, I was just referring to the vacuuming... ;-) I am very proud of the fact that almost all dancers I have gotten dances from have commented on how gentlemanly I am. Although I guess that could put me in the dreaded "nice guy" category... good thing my wife likes me.


Not really, it's all about showing sensitivity for the comfort of others. My grandmother used to say a gentleman is easily recognized by his ability to put those around him at ease. I get the impression that both Jack and Ray enjoy making others feel inferior when in their presence.

Raysworld
04-30-2009, 10:53 AM
I work in the sex trade, ergo I'm not too concerned with societal approval.

understood, but not everyone works in the sex-trade...

We are talking about Jack here. He makes sense. Its just that premise of his question has been beaten to a pulp.

IMO, there really is no secret formula. Women are all different, and you have to treat everyone of them situationally. And, the only way to do that is through practice.

Its actually a very good skill to have, and it can translate over to someone's business or work-environment very well and productively. Because at the end of the day, "picking up women" is essentially a sales pitch.

And Jack is right. There is deep rooted psychology behind it.

I read your post about understanding and comprehending body-language...and I completely agree with you.

A_Guy
04-30-2009, 10:54 AM
“Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today. Teach a man to fish; and you have fed him for a lifetime"

"Give a man a hooker, he gets laid today. Teach a man how to hire a hooker, and he gets laid for a lifetime."

.. you're right, it works!

Raysworld
04-30-2009, 10:54 AM
And for that matter, Paris, its not just about getting "laid".

vmurphy252
04-30-2009, 10:55 AM
And before Ray and Jack jump on me, yes, I crave everyone's approval, and yes, I am a gay man who would like to be a dancer, or whatever other assumption you want to draw from any of my posts.

Raysworld
04-30-2009, 10:58 AM
And before Ray and Jack jump on me, yes, I crave everyone's approval, and yes, I am a gay man who would like to be a dancer, or whatever other assumption you want to draw from any of my posts.

THATS WHAT SHE SAID!

:D





i kid, i kid

Paris
04-30-2009, 11:08 AM
The crazy thing is, you guys are totally making dating way more complicated than it has to be. A lot of women want a decent booty-call, but so many men are trying uber hard to work some kind of Jedi mind control trick that they totally miss the normal cues that a girl wants a fun sexy romp between the sheets. This whole game playing method of getting laid used to frustrate me to no end. What is so wrong with meaningless sex w/o strings attached? More often than not, when I offered a one night stand to man that was hitting on me, he would run away in disbelief.

I know I'm not hideous. I made $100K a year off my looks as a stripper. I'm a straight forward individual, and I can see how intimidating that can be, but ferchristsake, if the whole goal is to get laid by an attractive woman, don't act like an offer of meaningless sex is some kind of trap. Bring condoms, if you don't trust the ones I have available.

Paris
04-30-2009, 11:10 AM
And for that matter, Paris, its not just about getting "laid".

Relationship building? Are you a marriage minded man? I totally understand the need for a trophy wife to further one's social status. There are professional matchmakers that can fulfill that role as well.

verfolgung
04-30-2009, 12:37 PM
Pursuing “hot” women is shallow??? I suppose you would rather pursue the unattractive sort of women with great personalities... Why do you go to SCs and why do you chat with dancers on this forum? Instead of SCs, you should be visiting charity Bingo games, no? ...

No, I think it is implied that people look for those whom they find attractive. However, when one blatantly preqaulifies their goal to "pick up hot women", then I think it speaks more to their intentions.

When you hear someone say that they want to "pick up hot women", do you think it is more likely that they are looking for a substantive relationship or just a hook up/booty call? Perhaps it's just me, but I don't think it is such a stretch to say that what is being implied is the latter. IMO, it's a shallow goal, but there's nothing wrong with that, if that's your intended purpose. However, please don't be surprised when people call you out (I wasn't the only one) and don't get all self righteous trying to make it sound like it's more than what it really is.

(Btw - After a little sarcasim, if you noticed I did provide an honest response, which was echoed in several posts by others later on. ;))


... Dude, why do you try to sound like a girl all the time??? ... Are you a gay man who wishes he was a dancer???... Or do you think you can impress the dancers on this forum, and meet them OTF (outside the forum) by acting like a girl??? ...

Heh, flattery will get you no where. ::)



... Also, your insinuation that “hot” women are shallow and superficial is insulting... All the dancers on this forum are likely to fall in that category and they are anything but shallow and superficial... They are smart and their comments are very thought-provoking and stimulating... (See, I can kiss ass, too... Just not ALL the time, like you...) ...

I didn't say the "hot" women are shallow and superficial. I was referencing the pursuit. Someone as clearly well educated in reasoning and argumentaition should have been able to catch on to that. ;) Also, I did not deny the existance of equally shallow women for you to prey upon.


... Don’t the smiley faces give you a HINT that I was being facetious? What are you,... some kind of wannabe politician that takes things out of context and tries to sling mud at his opponents? You and I are not running for office on this forum and we are not competing for “Mr. SW”, so you need to get off my #$%# and go about your business. I’m not here to waste time with you...

Um yeah. Didn't you notice my own smilie? ---> " :D "
If you look at the quote, I didn't remove them. I simply let your words speak for themselves.

That's fine that you're not here to waste time, but you spend an aweful lot of it responding to my posts.

I've always believed if we can't laugh at ourselves we don't deserve to laugh at others. How can you be so upset with me, for posting your own words? Hypocracy is funny. If someone were to do it to me, I'm likely to simply say "touche" and go on my way. No need to get all hot and bothered. It's just an internet forum.

Crow2
04-30-2009, 01:05 PM
The crazy thing is, you guys are totally making dating way more complicated than it has to be. A lot of women want a decent booty-call, but so many men are trying uber hard to work some kind of Jedi mind control trick that they totally miss the normal cues that a girl wants a fun sexy romp between the sheets. This whole game playing method of getting laid used to frustrate me to no end. What is so wrong with meaningless sex w/o strings attached? More often than not, when I offered a one night stand to man that was hitting on me, he would run away in disbelief.

I know I'm not hideous. I made $100K a year off my looks as a stripper. I'm a straight forward individual, and I can see how intimidating that can be, but ferchristsake, if the whole goal is to get laid by an attractive woman, don't act like an offer of meaningless sex is some kind of trap. Bring condoms, if you don't trust the ones I have available.


Exactly! What is the DEAL.. Guys say all the time, " Oh you can get any guy you want." Bull fucking shit. I'd go out, and know I'm no beauty but not a dog either.. Some lovely man would start flirting. I'd say.." Pardon me, would you like to have sex with me?" Then they would get all bug eyed, stare at me for a minute and mutter some excuse about a turkey in the dryer. Yeah.. sure. WTF?

vmurphy252
04-30-2009, 01:29 PM
Well, we need a little romancin'... ;-)

Crow2
04-30-2009, 01:30 PM
Well, we need a little romancin'... ;-)


Well then, you guys need to stop bitching about not getting laid. Seriously.

dreamer1980
04-30-2009, 01:31 PM
The crazy thing is, you guys are totally making dating way more complicated than it has to be. A lot of women want a decent booty-call, but so many men are trying uber hard to work some kind of Jedi mind control trick that they totally miss the normal cues that a girl wants a fun sexy romp between the sheets. This whole game playing method of getting laid used to frustrate me to no end. What is so wrong with meaningless sex w/o strings attached? More often than not, when I offered a one night stand to man that was hitting on me, he would run away in disbelief.

I know I'm not hideous. I made $100K a year off my looks as a stripper. I'm a straight forward individual, and I can see how intimidating that can be, but ferchristsake, if the whole goal is to get laid by an attractive woman, don't act like an offer of meaningless sex is some kind of trap. Bring condoms, if you don't trust the ones I have available.

paris, ill give you a big :thumbsup: on this post. more women need this sort of mindset regarding casual sex. the problem is that society makes sex such a taboo that women fell the need to hide their sexual prowess or feel that they must be in a commited relationship. too much confusion. thats why some of these pick-up games exist, so that women end up feeling comfortable showing that sensual side without being labeled some negative connotation that society has developed.

now if you're looking for a full on relationship, then there's a lot of credibility to those pick-up games as they hit on primal female mating pyshocology.

casual sex shouldnt be this hard, so long as both people invovled mutually agree to avoid hurt feelings.

vmurphy252
04-30-2009, 01:35 PM
^<Insert clever reply here> Sorry, I got nuthin'. I haven't been complaining about it? I can see how it would be frustrating. Probably not helping by trying to empathize, so I'll go bury my head in the sand in shame...

VeraLynn
04-30-2009, 01:35 PM
Exactly! What is the DEAL.. Guys say all the time, " Oh you can get any guy you want." Bull fucking shit. I'd go out, and know I'm no beauty but not a dog either.. Some lovely man would start flirting. I'd say.." Pardon me, would you like to have sex with me?" Then they would get all bug eyed, stare at me for a minute and mutter some excuse about a turkey in the dryer. Yeah.. sure. WTF?

I've gotten the same thing. Granted, I'm engaged and not going to go off and cheat on him. BUT when I was single, I was game for some "fun romp between the sheets" or fuck friends or whatever you want to call it. All I asked for was respect with the fun.

There were a few guys during that time, whom after finding out I was interested on some level, made it a point to avoid me, even though I would have been satisfied with "You're not my type, sorry."

Get any guy I want? Nope. I'm not every guy's type, nor do I expect to be. Guys also tend to assume that a "woman like me" would only be interested in bouncer-type guys. My fiance is 6 feet tall and 155 pounds with some nice defined muscle. Tall and thin with some tone is how I like them. And I picked him up at a regular bar, twas love @ first sight for me. Worked hard to keep him from knowing how far I'd fallen at first, didn't want to scare him! ::)

hockeybobby
04-30-2009, 02:00 PM
I'm game for some cheap, meaningless sex. Just sayin'.

Mr Hyde
04-30-2009, 02:04 PM
“Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today. Teach a man to fish; and you have fed him for a lifetime"

Also, teach a man to trick hot chicks in to bed, and you have given a lifetime of beating off furiously in the bathroom.

Mr Hyde
04-30-2009, 02:07 PM
Exactly! What is the DEAL.. Guys say all the time, " Oh you can get any guy you want." Bull fucking shit. I'd go out, and know I'm no beauty but not a dog either.. Some lovely man would start flirting. I'd say.." Pardon me, would you like to have sex with me?" Then they would get all bug eyed, stare at me for a minute and mutter some excuse about a turkey in the dryer. Yeah.. sure. WTF?

What bars do you hang out in? I'll meet you there with my vacuum cleaner and a fresh batch of condoms.

Crow2
04-30-2009, 02:29 PM
What bars do you hang out in? I'll meet you there with my vacuum cleaner and a fresh batch of condoms.


Awww - that's sweet.

Mr Hyde
04-30-2009, 03:46 PM
I'm romantic like that

jack0177057
04-30-2009, 05:08 PM
I've always believed if we can't laugh at ourselves we don't deserve to laugh at others. How can you be so upset with me, for posting your own words? Hypocracy is funny. If someone were to do it to me, I'm likely to simply say "touche" and go on my way. No need to get all hot and bothered. It's just an internet forum.

Hey buddy,... I'm not upset... I'm just putting on a show... What's this forum without a little drama, huh???

princessjas
04-30-2009, 05:11 PM
Hey buddy,... I'm not upset... I'm just putting on a show... What's this forum without a little drama, huh???

A peaceful, relaxing, pleasant place for strippers to come for camraderie and to share pertinent information? ::)

jack0177057
04-30-2009, 05:57 PM
I get the impression that both Jack and Ray enjoy making others feel inferior when in their presence.

Not at all, but,... on the other hand,... I can't come across as inferior, either... So, sometimes, its a balancing act...

For example, my ex-wife was stunningly beautiful, classy and from a wealthy family (my family was working class)... She was, to say the least... WAY over my league... Everytime I saw her, she was surrounded by guys trying to flirt with her... I befriended her best friend who was a lawyer... On the occasion when I was introduced to her... I ignored her pretty much and focused 99% of my attention on her friend and talked about legal things that were WAY over her head... Obviously, as far as looks and class, I was her inferior,... so the only way to balance the scale was to downplay her looks and emphasize my intelligence and professional accomplishments... A few days later, I casually invited her to a social function, and she did not hesitate to say yes... From then on, we were "equal",... I never tried to make her feel inferior to me... So, obviously, this strategy worked... We had a great marriage for about 9 years...

But, if I had been like every other guy following her around and kissing her ass, she would had realized from the getgo just how inferior I was to her and summarily dimissed me... like she did with every other guy.

jack0177057
04-30-2009, 06:13 PM
More often than not, when I offered a one night stand to man that was hitting on me, he would run away in disbelief.
I know I'm not hideous. I made $100K a year off my looks as a stripper. I'm a straight forward individual, and I can see how intimidating that can be, but ferchristsake, if the whole goal is to get laid by an attractive woman, don't act like an offer of meaningless sex is some kind of trap. Bring condoms, if you don't trust the ones I have available.

I read about this in an article somewhere... It said that the sexually aggressive behavior of college women was actually making college guys impotent... It's interesting... Maybe confusion about traditional gender roles killed their hard-on,... like the guys started feeling like "girls" getting "gamed" in bars... You know, like - I'm the conqueror, not the conqueree... I'm the player, not the playee... or maybe they felt too much pressure about providing satisfactory services to sexually voracious women... IDK... Maybe you just have to let the guys have a few drinks first before being forward with them... I'll make myself available to you, VeraLynn and Crow so that you guys can practice your gaming skills on me,... seriously,... you three can be the sexual predators and I'll be your prey,... you know,... just to help you guys out... With practice, we'll get it right...;)

Paris
04-30-2009, 06:28 PM
I read about this in an article somewhere... It said that the sexually aggressive behavior of college women was actually making college guys impotent... It's interesting... Maybe confusion about traditional gender roles killed their hard-on,... like the guys started feeling like "girls" getting "gamed" in bars... You know, like - I'm the conqueror, not the conqueree... I'm the player, not the playee... or maybe they felt too much pressure about providing satisfactory services to sexually voracious women... IDK... Maybe you just have to let the guys have a few drinks first before being forward with them... I'll make myself available to you, VeraLynn and Crow so that you guys can practice your gaming skills on me,... seriously,... you three can be the sexual predators and I'll be your prey,... you know,... just to help you guys out... With practice, we'll get it right...;)

Hey, there's an idea for a new Pick-up seminar..."Learn how to say YES when a hot chick comes on to you!"

Crow2
04-30-2009, 07:11 PM
Hey, there's an idea for a new Pick-up seminar..."Learn how to say YES when a hot chick comes on to you!"

Truly.. Hate to say it but when guys use to turn me down the first things that crossed my mind was that they were gay, married with a ball and chain wife or they found me so revolting they ran away.

Women ( grown women ) like men that ACT like men.

vmurphy252
04-30-2009, 07:42 PM
I'm assuming it's me, but I've not had a woman say anything approaching that to me in a casual situation. I can't imagine running away from you.

Raysworld
04-30-2009, 08:57 PM
Hey, there's an idea for a new Pick-up seminar..."Learn how to say YES when a hot chick comes on to you!"

Paris, i like you, and I think you are a smart person, and thats why im responding to you. BUT, you are over-simplifying things way too much.

As per Jack's response, it isn't common for women to flat-out say things like "Hey you wanna fuck" or something to that effect. We automatically assume there is something wrong with you. And its much more than that, because there are deep-rooted social conditions and innate male/female dynamics that come in to play.

And you already know that.

Mr Hyde
04-30-2009, 09:21 PM
OK I'll be serious for a second here as well, in response to Crow and Paris' frustration with being turned down by men when they offered them sex.

First, I have to say, any man that would turn down an offer of free sex with either of you is either gay or very happily married, or mentally ill.

Secondly, you two have to realize that out-of-the-blue offers for sex from very attractive women who are strangers happen so rarely that it's like winning a low-level lottery. For every woman like Crow that would do this, there are probably 50 women for who such an idea would never even occur to them.

Can it happen that a guy stumbles upon a "hot chick" who just offers herself up for a night of sex? Sure, it's happened to me ONCE with a really good looking girl and a few times with 5's and 6's, but does it happen often? No, not even close.

Crow2
04-30-2009, 09:36 PM
OK I'll be serious for a second here as well, in response to Crow and Paris' frustration with being turned down by men when they offered them sex.

First, I have to say, any man that would turn down an offer of free sex with either of you is either gay or very happily married, or mentally ill.

Secondly, you two have to realize that out-of-the-blue offers for sex from very attractive women who are strangers happen so rarely that it's like winning a low-level lottery. For every woman like Crow that would do this, there are probably 50 women for who such an idea would never even occur to them.

Can it happen that a guy stumbles upon a "hot chick" who just offers herself up for a night of sex? Sure, it's happened to me ONCE with a really good looking girl and a few times with 5's and 6's, but does it happen often? No, not even close.


All the more reason to say HELL YEAH ..

Raysworld
04-30-2009, 09:38 PM
OK I'll be serious for a second here as well, in response to Crow and Paris' frustration with being turned down by men when they offered them sex.

First, I have to say, any man that would turn down an offer of free sex with either of you is either gay or very happily married, or mentally ill.

Secondly, you two have to realize that out-of-the-blue offers for sex from very attractive women who are strangers happen so rarely that it's like winning a low-level lottery. For every woman like Crow that would do this, there are probably 50 women for who such an idea would never even occur to them.

Can it happen that a guy stumbles upon a "hot chick" who just offers herself up for a night of sex? Sure, it's happened to me ONCE with a really good looking girl and a few times with 5's and 6's, but does it happen often? No, not even close.


Exactly.


Although, I don't know that they have to be gay or married to say no. There are plenty of other reasons, but the bolded seems to make the most sense.


Sex is still so taboo and fundamentally innate in animals that it can't be over-simplified to "Why won't he fuck me? I am hot."

If you guys haven't already, read the book called "Selfish-Gene" by richard dawkins. He is an award winning evolutionist/biologist.

It talks about how all actions and motivations are driven by our need as animals to reproduce. Men want women that can bear and raise healthy children, and women want men that protect provide for her children. Dawkins obviously breaks it down much more beautifuly than that.

Good stuff Mr. Hyde.

SpeakngEZ
04-30-2009, 09:45 PM
Ooh ooh I know I know!

I dunno about every other "hot girl" but here's what totally works for me:

Step One ("pre-game"): Spike your hair. Tan too much. Whiten your teeth until they look unnaturally white. Dress in head-to-toe Ed Hardy and don a fedora.

Step Two("action!"): Go into the Spearmint Rhino in Las Vegas, preferably during the daytime. The girls aren't as hot as night shift but it's slow so you'll be sure to stand out and get extra attention. Talk to each girl who approaches you for as long as possible, and make sure to mention several times a) your suite at the Encore; b) the bottle service you have lined up at Tryst for that evening; c) your 3 luxury cars; d) the trip to Miami you're going on as soon as you recover from the insanity of Vegas.

Step Three ("reel 'em in"): When the dancer, clearly enthralled by your stories of money-soaked glory, which she has never heard before, can resist you no more, she will suggest that you two go somewhere more private so she can rub against you. It is VERY IMPORTANT that, despite how much you've talked about money and acted interested in her, you do NOT in fact either buy dances from her NOR tip her for her time.

Step Four ("party time"): This is the part where you ask her if she wants to accompany you to Tryst or meet up in your suite for the "after-party."

Let me tell you....this approach works every time. :smellie_p

This story makes me sad. Because it's like a nightly reoccurring memory.

CuriousB
04-30-2009, 09:53 PM
If a random gorgeous woman was to walk up to me in a club and ask for a night of random nsa sex my first thought would be of waking up in an ice bath with no kidneys.

Crow2
04-30-2009, 11:05 PM
If a random gorgeous woman was to walk up to me in a club and ask for a night of random nsa sex my first thought would be of waking up in an ice bath with no kidneys.

That's your self esteem issue and harsh to say the least.