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SpeakngEZ
04-30-2009, 11:11 PM
Wow I finally reached the end. That took well over an hour of straight reading (and I skimmed some parts).
And all I have left to say is, I love nerds, speaking to every guy in here telling guys not to be nerds if they want to pick up girls...... If a guy of average height and average weight (who preferably didn't smell like BO or was covered in acne) started talking to me about his linux forum, I'd be like, "here's my myspace. Don't cut your hair--it's a fetish of mine."
Oh wait, that's already happened--and it wasn't just a hot girl/nerd guy situation, it was a stripper/nerd customer situation. We had sex our first night in a hotel room..... and then dated over a year into current day..... But I had to be his type, too. I made a graph of a slope formula on a bar napkin of $15 topless dances vs $20 nude dances..... y=mx+b where y is the price, x is the nudity, and b is the dancing itself..... anyway.
Maybe he didn't run away screaming because he was expecting a bill at the end of the night? I dunno.
SpeakngEZ
04-30-2009, 11:15 PM
Also a word about manly scents. And womanly ones, too!
There is a lot of research going on right now about a drive in every sexually active person to seek out certain scents that are biologically written into them. Everyone is looking for a different scent and it can make a person fall for you or turn away from you no matter how "hot" or Jedi-like you are in your pick-up skills.
Maybe I just naturally like nerd BO. Oh well. My boyfriend makes good money in web development. :-P
Raysworld
04-30-2009, 11:37 PM
Wow I finally reached the end. That took well over an hour of straight reading (and I skimmed some parts).
And all I have left to say is, I love nerds, speaking to every guy in here telling guys not to be nerds if they want to pick up girls...... If a guy of average height and average weight (who preferably didn't smell like BO or was covered in acne) started talking to me about his linux forum, I'd be like, "here's my myspace. Don't cut your hair--it's a fetish of mine."
Oh wait, that's already happened--and it wasn't just a hot girl/nerd guy situation, it was a stripper/nerd customer situation. We had sex our first night in a hotel room..... and then dated over a year into current day..... But I had to be his type, too. I made a graph of a slope formula on a bar napkin of $15 topless dances vs $20 nude dances..... y=mx+b where y is the price, x is the nudity, and b is the dancing itself..... anyway.
Maybe he didn't run away screaming because he was expecting a bill at the end of the night? I dunno.
what the hell did i just read?
so you are saying you like smelly nerds and that you fucked one after the first time you met him? Or that you are a smelly nerd? Please clarify as this is pertinent and detrimental information for all smelly nerds on this site.
also, if price is a fxn of nudity then wouldn't it be amount vs body part? and the slope being your level of intoxication? :)
-The Vanilla Gorilla
Jezzebelle
05-01-2009, 02:38 AM
Exactly.
It talks about how all actions and motivations are driven by our need as animals to reproduce. Men want women that can bear and raise healthy children, and women want men that protect provide for her children. Dawkins obviously breaks it down much more beautifuly than that.
Which brings us right back to the Madonna/Whore Complex ::)
Which probably why some men say no. And also one way where a man can feel superior over a woman who has just intimidated them.
CuriousB
05-01-2009, 02:49 AM
I'll probably have to hand in my membership card to the manly-man club but some guys are just not into one night stands and random nsa sex.
Djoser
05-01-2009, 02:53 AM
^^That sounds like a lot of work to get laid. Why not just pony up the $500 and hire a hooker?
“Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today. Teach a man to fish; and you have fed him for a lifetime"
"Give a man a hooker, he gets laid today. Teach a man how to hire a hooker, and he gets laid for a lifetime."
.. you're right, it works!
:rotfl:
ETA, still reading this thread
And maybe best of all
Hey, there's an idea for a new Pick-up seminar..."Learn how to say YES when a hot chick comes on to you!"
I think I've blown that a few times, just because it was so unusual it took me aback at first--I was a late bloomer you know.
The best way to pickup women as far as I can tell is to have a lot of them around you giving you attention already, but I was never really the pickup artist type so I never really use it when I have it, lol. The better physique you have the more easily you'll get attention in most situations, but it's no guarantee, either. A shrimpy guy who makes women laugh and has a lot of them around will usually get laid much more.
Being cocky and vaguely insulting works much better on the dumb ones, it seems, but will shoot you down in flames with most smart women*. And only a fool fails to see that smart, sexy women are the real hot ones.
Paris
05-01-2009, 08:21 AM
Secondly, you two have to realize that out-of-the-blue offers for sex from very attractive women who are strangers happen so rarely that it's like winning a low-level lottery. For every woman like Crow that would do this, there are probably 50 women for who such an idea would never even occur to them.
Can it happen that a guy stumbles upon a "hot chick" who just offers herself up for a night of sex? Sure, it's happened to me ONCE with a really good looking girl and a few times with 5's and 6's, but does it happen often? No, not even close.
I'm not talking about completely random approaches. I've had the situation where I met someone at a club, he asked me to dance, things got hot and heavy in the club and when I would ask if he wanted to take things to a more private location, he'd bolt.
I'm a practical person, and if I wasn't looking for a relationship I'd just say so, and skip all the stupid dating ritual stuff like dinner and a show etc.
Then there is the equally frustrating situation where I would meet someone and have a very fun time with him, understanding that it was just fun and no, I wasn't looking for a relationship. Then the next day he is blowing up my phone trying to hook up. I even had one guy bring his kids over to my job (day job, not strip club, lol) to meet me after what was understood to be a one night stand::).
Crow2
05-01-2009, 09:53 AM
I'm not talking about completely random approaches. I've had the situation where I met someone at a club, he asked me to dance, things got hot and heavy in the club and when I would ask if he wanted to take things to a more private location, he'd bolt.
I'm a practical person, and if I wasn't looking for a relationship I'd just say so, and skip all the stupid dating ritual stuff like dinner and a show etc.
Then there is the equally frustrating situation where I would meet someone and have a very fun time with him, understanding that it was just fun and no, I wasn't looking for a relationship. Then the next day he is blowing up my phone trying to hook up. I even had one guy bring his kids over to my job (day job, not strip club, lol) to meet me after what was understood to be a one night stand::).
Again, exactly - I'd never go to a bar or whatever and pick out some random guy and just say .. " Hey, wanna fuck?"
And men say that women are psyco.
If you are not into the just fun/nsa deal that's wonderful.
It would be helpful to know these things ahead of time before someone such as myself wastes time and effort trying to get men such as that into bed.
Kylea2
05-01-2009, 10:00 AM
Awww...this thread is sad. I think Jack was genuinely curious about different womens' preferences and was just looking for a cross-section. The question might've been superficial and too general for any real conclusions to be reached, but why'd it turn into a massive kill-jackfest?
7. Don't try to pick up strippers while they're working.
He wants to have other men pay him to teach them techniques that mean we will be wasting our time at work rather than making money. One of the # 1 rules of dancing is don't ever date the club customers... tipping or not.
a gentleman is easily recognized by his ability to put those around him at ease.
+1 I totally agree!
"Give a man a hooker, he gets laid today. Teach a man how to hire a hooker, and he gets laid for a lifetime."
.. you're right, it works!
;D LOL That really made me laugh. I wonder what he's charging for these training sessions? I mean with the recession going on I'm sure you could get a lot of sessions with a professional for the same price - more bang for the buck!
Relationship building? Are you a marriage minded man? I totally understand the need for a trophy wife to further one's social status. There are professional matchmakers that can fulfill that role as well.
+1 I'm a huge proponent of people using professional matchmakers. I mean they do half your research for you before you even meet the person. How much better does it get?!
If you want to teach men how to get with dancers tell them to stay out of our work environment. I can see right through the guys who come in dressed to the 9s, talk about all their money and then don't tip thinking they are going to win me over. No a-hole - you are just another cheap schmuck!
Be nice and don't come into the club. Meet me somewhere like a class, networking event or through friends and then we'll talk!
CuriousB
05-01-2009, 10:45 AM
It would be helpful to know these things ahead of time before someone such as myself wastes time and effort trying to get men such as that into bed.
Welcome to what us men have had to deal with for the last million years or so...
Crow2
05-01-2009, 11:08 AM
Welcome to what us men have had to deal with for the last million years or so...
Not really - from what I've understood from reading ninety percent of women don't want sex and want nothing to do with it. Of course I am not including SW women. I'm generally speaking of Civvy or civilian woman. So, in my logical mind , if a man finds a woman who is reasonably attractive ( to him ) that actually enjoys sex he would want to keep her around for a while.
That as well seems to be a big no. Because in a man's mind ( from what I have read here ) if that happens, something bad is going to happen to him. Which frankly, I just can't wrap my head around.
What? An attractive, single - sexually safe and active woman is building her own organ donor/surrogate baby making/nefarious business?
Really guys.. get with the program. Stop watching so much TeeVee.
vmurphy252
05-01-2009, 11:15 AM
Hey, I've got a big liver. They could probably get a 3-for-the-price-of-1 out of it. You can never be too careful...
vmurphy252
05-01-2009, 11:15 AM
Holy crap! I've posted enough to become a senior member! I need to find something to do with my life...
Crow2
05-01-2009, 11:18 AM
Hey, I've got a big liver. They could probably get a 3-for-the-price-of-1 out of it. You can never be too careful...
If your liver is that big you have cirrhosis - no one would want it.
vmurphy252
05-01-2009, 11:23 AM
No, just a large man. Jokes are no fun when you over analyze...
I guess you could go with they're no fun when they're not funny too, but that would just be mean.
Earl_the_Pearl
05-01-2009, 11:31 AM
Maybe I just naturally like nerd BO. Oh well. My boyfriend makes good money in web development. :-P
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v17/earlcamembert/100nerd.jpg
Talk nerdy to me.:cloud9:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v17/earlcamembert/100computergeek.jpg
CuriousB
05-01-2009, 11:33 AM
Not really - from what I've understood from reading ninety percent of women don't want sex and want nothing to do with it. Of course I am not including SW women. I'm generally speaking of Civvy or civilian woman. So, in my logical mind , if a man finds a woman who is reasonably attractive ( to him ) that actually enjoys sex he would want to keep her around for a while.
That as well seems to be a big no. Because in a man's mind ( from what I have read here ) if that happens, something bad is going to happen to him. Which frankly, I just can't wrap my head around.
What? An attractive, single - sexually safe and active woman is building her own organ donor/surrogate baby making/nefarious business?
Really guys.. get with the program. Stop watching so much TeeVee.
I think my sense of humour is either officially incompatible with yours or you are playing the comic foil to absolute perfection. If it is the latter, I applaud you.
Earl_the_Pearl
05-01-2009, 11:56 AM
I've had the situation where I met someone at a club, he asked me to dance, things got hot and heavy in the club and when I would ask if he wanted to take things to a more private location, he'd bolt.
I would be concerned about a scam or set up. I had this totally hot ski bunnie flight attendant all over me on the slops. We went to lunch and when I came out my brand new skies were gone and soon after so was she. :'(
The Globe hired a flight attendant, I see a pattern, to seduce Frank Gifford and set up cameras in her hotel room. :O
Crow2
05-01-2009, 12:21 PM
I think my sense of humour is either officially incompatible with yours or you are playing the comic foil to absolute perfection. If it is the latter, I applaud you.
I understand your sense of humor completely - and to me, it's simply not amusing.
Dry wit. That I believe is what I'm doing. Also it's not funny when the humor has to be explained.
jack0177057
05-01-2009, 12:56 PM
I'll probably have to hand in my membership card to the manly-man club but some guys are just not into one night stands
I agree, if the sex is good, why limit it to just one night? /:O Better to turn it into a fuck-buddy situation...:)
If a random gorgeous woman was to walk up to me in a club and ask for a night of random nsa sex my first thought would be of waking up in an ice bath with no kidneys.
I partly agree with that,... unless the girl is drunk or is clearly a wild party girl. I think it goes back to what we are taught as kids: (1) don't trust strangers, (2) don't be tricked by someone offering you a free puppy or a pussycat and (3) if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is not true...
You sexual predators need to learn to be a little more subtle...
Whatever happened to inviting a guy over for a cup of coffee.../:O
verfolgung
05-01-2009, 01:02 PM
Hey, there's an idea for a new Pick-up seminar..."Learn how to say YES when a hot chick comes on to you!"
... I plead the 5th. :-X
jack0177057
05-01-2009, 01:20 PM
Secondly, you two have to realize that out-of-the-blue offers for sex from very attractive women who are strangers happen so rarely that it's like winning a low-level lottery.
One time I was driving and two girls in a car drove up to me and propositioned me for sex... They were escorts, though...
Another time, a girl outside a bar offered me a blowjob and kept insisting on it after I said no thanks... She was an escort too, though...
Another time an attractive well-dressed woman in an upscale bar propositioned me for sex. I excused myself because I had a suspicion that she was a high-class escort (or an undercover vice officer posing as an escort)... But, I could've been wrong /:O...
I have nothing against escorts (or paying for sex), but I was city prosecutor at the time of these incidents and could not take any chances of getting involved in a "criminal activity" and scandal...
Earl_the_Pearl
05-01-2009, 01:23 PM
One could wind up in a cult. :O
And then there is the pseudo-Christian cult, David Berg's "Children of God", which actively encourages its female members to practice "Flirty Fishing" and to work as "Happy Hookers for Jesus", using sex to bring both money and new male members into the church. They operate near many large American military bases overseas, and take advantage of lonely servicemen with their come-ons. David Berg (a.k.a. Moses David) even went so far as to tell the husbands to pimp their wives on the streets
jack0177057
05-01-2009, 01:29 PM
Not really - from what I've understood from reading ninety percent of women don't want sex and want nothing to do with it. Of course I am not including SW women. I'm generally speaking of Civvy or civilian woman. So, in my logical mind , if a man finds a woman who is reasonably attractive ( to him ) that actually enjoys sex he would want to keep her around for a while.
That as well seems to be a big no. Because in a man's mind ( from what I have read here ) if that happens, something bad is going to happen to him. Which frankly, I just can't wrap my head around.
What? An attractive, single - sexually safe and active woman is building her own organ donor/surrogate baby making/nefarious business?
Really guys.. get with the program. Stop watching so much TeeVee.
Yes, maam... I'm going to completely give myself to the next female stranger that propositions me for NSA sex... if she's hot like you...
commanderadama
05-01-2009, 04:19 PM
I'll probably have to hand in my membership card to the manly-man club but some guys are just not into one night stands and random nsa sex.
I am one of those guys. Plus I have very strict standards which eliminates about 99% of any given female population in a given area from sexual consideration. LOL
Kylea2
05-02-2009, 08:30 AM
I am one of those guys. Plus I have very strict standards which eliminates about 99% of any given female population in a given area from sexual consideration. LOL
Wow, why did you even post that? You do realize that a good portion of people think they are picker than everyone else, right? If things were based on looks alone there's a good percentage of the population that would never have sex again because their standards are too high and most people aren't THAT attracted to them based off looks alone.
commanderadama
05-02-2009, 11:40 AM
Wow, why did you even post that? You do realize that a good portion of people think they are picker than everyone else, right? If things were based on looks alone there's a good percentage of the population that would never have sex again because their standards are too high and most people aren't THAT attracted to them based off looks alone.
I wanted the forum to know that Curious wasn't alone in not being interested in a one night stand. I have and would never have sex with someone I just met. (Some of my friends feel the same, some don't)
Kylea2
05-02-2009, 11:46 AM
^^^ That doesn't come off at all as being about one night stands. FYI
Raysworld
05-02-2009, 11:47 AM
I wanted the forum to know that Curious wasn't alone in not being interested in a one night stand. I have and would never have sex with someone I just met. (Some of my friends feel the same, some don't)
depends on the girl and the situation.
ive had girls offer me sex, moreso in college than now, but I never flat out said "NO". Either ignored the situation or just joked it off. You have to be clever.
kylea, i agree mostly with your post, but iniatial attraction is physical, and it can be on many different levels of physical attraction. For someone that is "not-attractive" there is an admirer. Thats why alot of people do have sex.
Kylea2
05-02-2009, 11:54 AM
kylea, i agree mostly with your post, but iniatial attraction is physical, and it can be on many different levels of physical attraction. For someone that is "not-attractive" there is an admirer. Thats why alot of people do have sex.
LOL Well, I wouldn't have been with any of my Ex's if things were only based on physical. Sorry, but they just weren't that great. As a matter of fact I don't know that I've ever seen a guy in person that I would swoon for right away and say "Hey, you are hot - let's go hit the sack".
If it happened that often people wouldn't complain so much about finding people they even want to date.
Raysworld
05-02-2009, 12:02 PM
LOL Well, I wouldn't have been with any of my Ex's if things were only based on physical. Sorry, but they just weren't that great. As a matter of fact I don't know that I've ever seen a guy in person that I would swoon for right away and say "Hey, you are hot - let's go hit the sack".
If it happened that often people wouldn't complain so much about finding people they even want to date.
you are comparing female perspective of attraction to a male's perspective?
we are genetically predisposed to certain physical traits. Men like curves because it shows strong child-bearing attributes, and that is sexually attractive to men. A soft face shows femininity etc. Similarly, women are generally attracted to broad shoulders because it depicts power and alpha-male.
furthermore, your none-physical attraction to previous partners is probably an indication of why they are "ex" bfs now.
however, the world is so convoluted now that its hard to really over-symplify sex and attraction.
Kylea2
05-02-2009, 01:47 PM
^^^ Here's my opinion on this from being in this industry for awhile.
Men like different things, just as women do. I have never seen a group of men agree that a woman is a perfect 10 in their books. As a matter of fact if a woman or dancer walked up to any random group of men and offered a NSA one night stand or a full relationship I would be that answers would run the gamit from "Yes, let's do this" to "No way, you're not my type".
I think there was another thread on here recently about what percentage of customers from the club would dancers date and the answers given were anywhere from 0.05% to 20%, with the majority being closer to less than 1%. In that thread were also all the comments about how picky the dancers thought they were compared to other people. It seems to me that everyone thinks they are pickier than other people, and they do tear each other apart often... but when you get down to it personality seems to be more important and that's why so many of us end up with people who aren't exactly a perfect 10 on our own radar.
commanderadama
05-02-2009, 05:00 PM
depends on the girl and the situation.
ive had girls offer me sex, moreso in college than now, but I never flat out said "NO". Either ignored the situation or just joked it off. You have to be clever.
kylea, i agree mostly with your post, but iniatial attraction is physical, and it can be on many different levels of physical attraction. For someone that is "not-attractive" there is an admirer. Thats why alot of people do have sex.
As far as I'm concerned, if I'm not into a woman physically then I'm not interested in her at all. But I've got friends and relatives who are straight up dogs and will have sex with any woman who has a pulse. My one cousin has kids with a yeti. :O
Hopper
05-02-2009, 10:28 PM
Dancers... Let's say,... hypothetically, you were writing a book for men about picking up "hot" women in the dance clubs, bars, street, bookstores, etc. What would you suggest?
I'm not asking for silly stuff like, "just be yourself" or "be confident"... I'm asking for more meaningful stuff, like what kinds of shirts and colognes girls like, body language, direct approach v. indirect approach, pickup lines, good ways to start a conversation,... whether acting cocky, conceited or a tiny bit obnoxious is ever a good idea, bragging v. modesty, etc...
I've actually read a couple of "pickup" books and they were worthless, except for a few psychological tools to make women feel more comfortable with you and want to talk to you... Maybe you could do better, since your job is to "pickup" men and make them spend a lot of money on you... Any trade secrets that may also work for men?
They talk about that in the Hustle Hut forum. Though I think girls hustling men for lapdances is a lot different to guys trying to pick up girls. There would be some things in common, but pretty basic things we all know.
Why specifically ask strippers for suggestions about this? Better to start forums of your own devoted to the topic and invite everyone's opinions there. It's obviously a big subject concerning which individual people will have different viewpoints and preferences.
Kylea2
05-02-2009, 11:00 PM
As far as I'm concerned, if I'm not into a woman physically then I'm not interested in her at all. But I've got friends and relatives who are straight up dogs and will have sex with any woman who has a pulse. My one cousin has kids with a yeti. :O
LOL - see it's not always about the looks. Oh, and with men I often here that when it comes to sex if they've gone through a dry period they are willing to lower their standards in the "looks department" by a few points. I.e. that 5 may not seem so bad after months or years of nothing.
CuriousB
05-03-2009, 04:52 AM
Oh, and Crow2, if you want guys to start accepting your advances you are going to have to start laughing at their jokes. )^;
vmurphy252
05-03-2009, 07:47 AM
^She may not actually laugh, but she tends to volley a comment or two back...
Crow2
05-03-2009, 09:42 AM
Oh, and Crow2, if you want guys to start accepting your advances you are going to have to start laughing at their jokes. )^;
I will get right on that... really.
When I find them funny I will. Laughing at someones humor just to be polite is tacky ...
vmurphy252
05-03-2009, 10:40 AM
^Uh oh. No laughter = I haven't been funny AT ALL. Gotta start working on a new self image.
Crow2
05-03-2009, 12:11 PM
^Uh oh. No laughter = I haven't been funny AT ALL. Gotta start working on a new self image.
You and your big liver ;D
jack0177057
05-05-2009, 06:57 PM
In conclusion to this thread:
The idea that your going to get advice from ppl or books on how to pick up "hot" women is so absurd to me.
Your point is well taken, a book will not give you jedi mind control powers nor solve the riddle to unlock a girl’s heart... (nor other parts of her body)... Yet, books can give a guy a starting point to better understand women and understand the most profound aspects of the male-female dynamic... For example, Men Are from Mars, Women Are from Venus was a best-seller and was very instructive in articulating general psychological differences between men and women. Other books that I have found very insightful are: His Needs, Her Needs: Building an Affair-Proof Marriage and The Female Brain. These are not “pickup” books, but I can apply what I learned in these books to my interactions with women: friendships, pickup, dating, marriage... etc. Forums like this one are also very informative.
There are also books about persuasion, body language, theories of personalities types, neuro-linguistic programming and human psychology... This knowledge can be applied for good or evil... Teachers use personality type profiling and neuro-linguistic programming to find alternative methods to teach children with learning challenges and disabilities. But, politicians, advertisers and salespeople may apply the same knowledge to manipulate people.
Finally, there are books that can make you more entertaining...for example, “Kokology: The Game of Self-Discovery”, “If...(Questions for the Game of Life)”, “4,000 Questions for Getting to Know Anyone and Everyone”, and “Intellectual Foreplay: A Book of Questions for Lovers and Lovers-to-Be”. If I run out of things to talk about with a girl, I can always say, “I’ve got an interesting psychological game that will reveal a lot about your personality...” Women love those things.
Personally, I prefer a man to be more gentlemanly. An over-sexualized approach ("DAMN! YOU LOOK HOT!") Was flattering when I was in high school. At this point, I'm REALLY tired of that and am much more impressed when a man shows restraint and manners. I get the feeling most exceptionally good looking women feel this way too. They get tired of being treated like little more than sex in heels. They know they're hot and the novelty of being told it by strangers has long since worn off by the twenties.
It's better to just approach her and start a conversation. We'll know you're interested from that alone and we'll be relieved to be with a man that seems to have some tact and good breeding.
I'm not going to get into things like clothing and the like because it varies so much. For instance- men's cologne always makes me gag. I would much rather you just smell clean. Some women feel the same way, other's love it.
So, basically,... I just start a simple conversation with you about something mundane and I carefully observe your body signals to gauge whether you are comfortable with me and enjoy my company... I agree, that’s the best approach...
Truthfully, I see through all "pick up" and dislike being hit on. I just pick out the men I like myself. I'd truly prefer they leave me alone and let me do the choosing.
That’s hard for guys to understand because we have always been told that women like confident and assertive men. But, I think your right... It’s usually women who do the choosing. Us guys just need to be more perceptive about who is checking us out and sending out signals.
However my Three Noble Truths:
1. Alcohol will not make me like you.
2. Be interesting and civilised. I had a guy come up to my best friend (a civilian girl) and I on Sunday night. He bought us a drink and then I had to try and drag the conversation along. So, see 1. Alcohol did not make me like him. And he was not interesting.
3. Telling me how theoretically huge your cock is, or about your prowess in bed, will not impress me, just annoy me.
Sounds basic, but I meet many, many men who break the Noble Truths. Hence why I prefer to do the choosing myself. Much less hassle.
I’ll keep these Three Noble Truths in mind, but it's really hard not to talk about my cock.
Learn how to read and project body language cues. This is a rather sophisticated science, and probably not one that can be learned by the socially inept through the purchase of a book, but you may sell quite a few copies based on that topic, if you know anything about the reading of body language.
Reading and projecting body language is the art of the con man. Ever watched a tv show where the actor had that right tone of voice and inflection, but it still seemed fake? That's because he/she didn't know how to project body language.
One can literally appear to read minds if he/she is skilled in body language reading. This is how psychics ply their trade.
Tracey Cox’s Superflirt is a great book about body language in the pickup and dating arena.
Sincerity goes a long way. Most women can see through "pick up lines" and have no patience for it. If you are sincere we will pick up on it and go from there, if we are interested we will reciprocate.
I agree,... but if I was COMPLETELY sincere every time I approached a women, I would get slapped or have drink spilled on my face every single time. The sincere truth a lot of woman I approach is this: I want to have sex with you tonight... If the sex is good, I want you to be my new fuck-buddy... If you really impress me in bed,... I may consider you for a long-term fuck-buddy situation... However, you’re probably not my type for a romantic relationship because... [fill in the blank with any one of a hundred reasons - e.g., I met you in a bar or nightclub, you’re not my type, you drink too much, you laugh too much, your hand is shaped funny, etc...]
Actually, there are a few things men can do to attract most women...however, these are much much easier said than done.
1. Most important, be interesting. (Admittedly, this can mean different things for different women...some find polished professionals interesting, some find stupid rappers and rockers interesting.)
2. Don't be scared. You don't have to be cocky/confident necessarily, but you can't be meek/scared.
3. Put some pride and effort into how you dress. Be "fashionable" for whatever girl you're trying to attract.
4. Same for your hair.
5. Same for your shoes.
6. Try to work out enough to be height/weight appropriate.
7. Don't try to pick up strippers while they're working.
If you can do all that, you might not get everyone you want (things like age, timing, money, etc can still factor in), but you'll probably get more than you can handle.
I agree...
Women aren't as concerned so much about how "hot" a guy looks as they are how well he notices that the floor needs to be vacuumed and then actually takes the initiative to do the vacuuming. Now THAT is SEXY!
If you dress up as a dominatrix for me, I'll do all the cleaning and washing in the house... Seriously...
it's all about showing sensitivity for the comfort of others. My grandmother used to say a gentleman is easily recognized by his ability to put those around him at ease.
I agree.
The crazy thing is, you guys are totally making dating way more complicated than it has to be. A lot of women want a decent booty-call, but so many men are trying uber hard to work some kind of Jedi mind control trick that they totally miss the normal cues that a girl wants a fun sexy romp between the sheets.
It took me a long time to discover this... It wasn’t until I was in college that I discovered that women are as horny and promiscuous as men... actually, you're worst...
What is so wrong with meaningless sex w/o strings attached?
I disagree. If the sex is good, it is meaningful to me, and I want you as my fuck-buddy.
More often than not, when I offered a one night stand to man that was hitting on me, he would run away in disbelief.
I know I'm not hideous. I made $100K a year off my looks as a stripper. I'm a straight forward individual, and I can see how intimidating that can be, but ferchristsake, if the whole goal is to get laid by an attractive woman, don't act like an offer of meaningless sex is some kind of trap. Bring condoms, if you don't trust the ones I have available.
On behalf of the entire male population of this planet... We're sorry and ashamed to have turned down such an offer... And I will personally make it up to you, if you tell me where to find you...
If all else fails or you’re just too lazy to improve yourself, take this advice from Paris:
^^That sounds like a lot of work to get laid. Why not just pony up the $500 and hire a hooker?
A_Guy
05-06-2009, 05:29 AM
I'm sorry jack, but this thread was way too complicated.. Forget the books, forget the seminars, and forget your self-help classes - you're basically reinforcing everyone's self-esteem issues. "Hey, this is what you doing wrong weirdo!".
Bottomline, everyone is unique. There is no magic potion. These classes are get rich quick schemes by taking advantage of those that lack self-confidence and the quintessential "good looks", IMHO.
If all else fails or you’re just too lazy to improve yourself, take this advice from Paris:
And I wouldn't call this lazy. I call this impatience ;)
If your sole goal is to pick up a hot chick, then talk to her. She rejects you, then talk to the next one. Wash, rinse, repeat. Throw in a hooker or two in there and you're golden!
Your welcome. Now you all owe me $500.
:P
Mr Hyde
05-06-2009, 06:20 AM
Is this ridiculous thread still alive?
Hopper
05-06-2009, 07:00 AM
This subject has been done over and over for decades. Why do we need any more books or seminars on this?
Hopper
05-06-2009, 07:05 AM
If your sole goal is to pick up a hot chick, then talk to her. She rejects you, then talk to the next one. Wash, rinse, repeat.
You'll get a lot of nos, but you only need one yes.
Earl_the_Pearl
05-06-2009, 05:12 PM
You'll get a lot of nos, but you only need one yes.
In baseball if one gets a hit one out of three times he will be in the hall of fame.
If one wants to pick up hot women one should be rich.
verfolgung
05-06-2009, 05:17 PM
...If your sole goal is to pick up a hot chick, then talk to her. ...
The sole goal for the op was not to pick up a "hot chick." It's to make money. ;)
mediocrity
05-06-2009, 05:34 PM
I’ll keep these Three Noble Truths in mind, but it's really hard not to talk about my cock.
Can you tell me why? Because when guys bust this info out on me on the first meeting or first date, I normally either a) laugh and walk away b) roll my eyes and walk away or c) If they are graphic, throw my drink on them and walk away.
A_Guy
05-06-2009, 06:05 PM
The sole goal for the op was not to pick up a "hot chick." It's to make money. ;)
and I understood that. I was just trying to save some time for everyone else. Rather than spend hours in seminars and days reading books, I thought I would get straight to the point.
Like I said, that'll be $500. I'll take cash, check, or the equivalent in lap dances :P
Hopper
05-07-2009, 01:17 AM
My strategy: Make a suggestion, get slapped. Make an innuendo, get slapped. Make a move, get slapped. (Swiped from "Garfield" strip.)