View Full Version : Tell me about opening a Strip Club
Raysworld
05-03-2009, 09:53 PM
Upscale bikini bar seems to be a bit of an oxymoron to me... do these exist anywhere?
Inheriting Daddy's business doesnt qualify you to run a strip club. As everyone else has been saying, this is a different niche. The public does not frown upon gas stations and subway like it does upon strip clubs. Maybe some people will be ticked that sonic contributes to obesity and hippies might bitch at you for the gas, but nothing real like lawmakers actively trying to get rid of a local strip club.
I dont think your physics major would really aid in running a business. The business classes might help, but i dont see your knowledge of infinite potential wells or ability to draw a kickass free body diagram as being usefull skills in running a strip club. Some math is needed, but i dont think that is the most useful subject for this business, and that is coming from a Math major. Maybe up to calculus 2 or the most basic of differential equations. Statistics could be useful, being able with numbers is great, but beyond that advanced math is probably not going to help in any way other than making you sound smart on paper.
If you are just making it like hooters, you might not need to go through as much bullshit. Would lapdances be offered? Depending on where you are, having bikini dancers with no nudity who don't offer lapdances might not even qualify as adult entertainment (who knows, the poles might do it though).
haha, i like this girl. that was well written.
you sure planks time and nash' equilibrium don't overlap? :)
I've taken stats and bus. courses. thanks.
-Lap dances would NOT be offered. The restaurant/bar im envisioning would be a contemporary sports-tavern-resturaunt-bikini-bar. Only girls would be waiting and they would do it in bikinis. For entertainment there would be games on multiple tvs and a stripper pole or 2(depending on logistics and cost-benifit) where dancers rotate during peak operations.
Raysworld
05-03-2009, 09:54 PM
oh and you are welcome to email me too if you have any good ideas!
peace SW!
you used me like a dirty condom and thrown to the dumps
love ya!
Athenathefabulous
05-03-2009, 10:02 PM
Hah im not a physics expert. I took P1 (mech) 2 (E&M) and modern physics which was time dilation and basic quantum mechanics... so if we get into a physics term dropping duel im sure you will win. math on the other hand... id have you beat ;)
Well what you are describing is not really a strip club then. You would probably have to pay the girls to work at such a place instead of hiring them as independent contractors. Also, i doubt any quality professional dancers would work there. It would probably be more neighborhood girls looking for excitement as opposed to really skilled dancers. I'm curious as to whether you vision waitresses/dancers being from the same pool of girls.
hell, if the food was good id eat there. And since it is more of a hooters model as opposed to an actual strip club, your food industry experience would probably be ample by the time you were ready to open up such a venue.
Paris
05-03-2009, 10:11 PM
Paris, im not a prick. you would love me in real life. i come on here for about an hour or so to dick around. i think my sense of humor or clearly lack thereof is lost in e-translation.
I didn't say you were, I said that other SWer owner was.
i made thread because i had a lunch at hooters the other day and then came on this site to check on my threads, and it hit me...why not make a contemporary version of hooters.
Strip clubs are a far cry from Hooters.
stories like the one of the 17 yr old and the club owner are tragic and appalling. I am no where near that schemy or sleezy. I would never open a business with that kind of work environment.
You gotta really know your shit in the SC industry to avoid those situations. Naive= Dead or in prison more often than just bankrupt.
reading some of the stuff here really does shock me, and I don't think im mentally/emotionally equipt for a career in the SC business. Some of the stuff ive read about prostitution and misconduct of the dancers makes me sick to my stomach.
that's why everyone kept telling you to go work in a club first. Why would someone buy a business that makes him sick?
probably going to stop posting.
se la vi paris!!!!
email me at
[email protected] if you are serious about opening up a business. maybe we can shoot ideas off each other.
I was serious about the coffee shop. Don't dis the bean, man. Hooters style coffee shops in Seattle are doing quite well, BTW.
LuckyOne
05-03-2009, 10:18 PM
1. Get somebody to run it that knows what they're doing. Preferably someone who's run a strip club before and doesn't have the capital to open one on their own. There will be a lot of drama to deal with. You need someone with experience.
2. Have a way to watch over the club. Either you have to be there all the time, someone you *really* trust has to be there all the time, or you have to have cameras. Employees will skim, illlegal things will happen, and you want to pay the price for none of it.
3. It can be difficult to get a liquor license and open a titty bar. The easiest way to do this probably to take over a pre-existing bar and make it more profitable. You may have to pay people off.
I haven't read this entire thread, but from what I've read Crow is pretty much right on. You have no idea the inner workings of a strip club until you work in one. I wouldn't do it for all the tea in china. Especially managing crazy dancers. I've seen it is just one big headache.
LuckyOne
05-03-2009, 10:24 PM
Speremint Rhino in LV MIGHT be 15 million.
I doubt you could buy that club for 15 million. LOL! Didn't Sapphire sell for 60 million last year? Or was it only 50% ownership for 60 million. Regardless, a club that's already profitable is going to sell in the million dollar range. If you buy something for less you're probably going to have to build it from the ground up, and clearly you don't have the experience to do that.
babybambi08
05-04-2009, 12:57 AM
1. Why not?
2. There is a section in the user profile that allows you to pick "Club Owner/Promoter" so I naturally assumed there would be some here.
3. My dad owns a management company that owns various businesses. I am a partner in that company. I have degree in physics from cal poly, and it took care of pre-med courses. I've take business classes, and math classes and other class. Thank you. I want to see where i can get in to medschool; if i get in anywhere decent ill take that route because I love sports-med...ive worked in the UCSF ortho dept. as well. Please don't judge me before knowing anything about me.
4. Irrelevant
5. I want to be the franchisOR
6. Im thinking of a more riskay/contemporary version of a hooters. Girls in bikins, dance-pole area and plasma TVs for sports and events.
Your # 4. has completely made you look like an idoit.. as well did your number 3. please, you are a partner- only in your sad wet dream.
and now your changing your thought from SC to hooter.. please.. 9 months pregnant women work at hooters, yes some dancers are pregnant- but most of america doesnt want to see a big pregnant women dancing around a pole.
I honestly think the best part is that you say you are a business partner with your father.. if you were a real BP you wouldnt be asking for anyones advice on here....
you have seriously made the biggest fool are here that I have seen. you are a wanna-be. honestly I hope you dont return to SW.
mysteryman
05-04-2009, 08:21 PM
WOW! This thread is the best entertainment on this site in years!!!!!!!!!!!
LMAO you guys are really unleashing on this guy. :D
mediocrity
05-04-2009, 09:06 PM
the bizben example was just to show you the listings that were available.
Speremint Rhino in LV MIGHT be 15 million.
Hmm. Considering Crazy Horse Too is/was $29mill in debt, and the city expected the sale of it to cover those debts, I'd say this is a gross underestimate.
Hell. The city would thank you to death if someone bought the CH2.
I have degree in physics from cal poly, and it took care of pre-med courses. I've take business classes, and math classes and other class. Thank you. I want to see where i can get in to medschool; if i get in anywhere decent ill take that route because I love sports-med...ive worked in the UCSF ortho dept. as well.
i'm no physics major, but I am hard pressed to think a Physics degree takes care of all the premed required course. Did you take Organic Chemistry? Cell Biology? Genetics? Biochemistry? Molecular Biology? Could you be a PA? Maybe. M.D or D.O? Unlikely.
Smells like a whale's vagina to me.
PS. Quit butchering my language: Risque, and C'est La Vie.
Golden_Rule
05-04-2009, 09:23 PM
ASKING PRICE - $360,000
LOL
That price is for the business and the liqour license and, no doubt, does not include the property the business is established in via, also no doubt, a lease.
Though the discription sounds good I'd want two years worth of books for my accountant to go over. As if it is such a great business why is the owner selling?
BTW, I hang out at Satin Dolls in Lodi, NJ, where the Sopranos shot the Bada Bing scenes, and even it ain't "Bada Bings". {LOL} That place could only exist in a TV show.
vmurphy252
05-04-2009, 09:46 PM
Smells like a whale's vagina to me.
^That is an awesome line.
Athenathefabulous
05-04-2009, 09:48 PM
yea i hope its not like the bada bing. I started watching the sopranos and im on season 3... i wouldnt want to work at a place like that! The VIP bouncer says "50$ to get into the back, and a blowjob for me later." Not my type of place!
babybambi08
05-05-2009, 06:53 PM
oh and you are welcome to email me too if you have any good ideas!
peace SW!
you used me like a dirty condom and thrown to the dumps
love ya!
what kind of guys says "love ya!" ??
Johnny_Rexx
05-06-2009, 02:38 AM
Unless you know the industry, I think you are destined to fail. I've seen it happen.
A couple of years ago, someone had the great idea to set up an exclusive venue of business men coming into the city. Cigars, dancers and great food. They had the thought that it would be a place women could turn up to and not feel intimidated.
They were gone within six months. They were in the wrong part of town, didn't understand the market. Most of the guys that go to strip clubs here are working class. Also they priced themselves too high (20-25 entry fee).
You can have all the business knowledge under the sun but if you don't have the industry knowledge NOT A GOOD IDEA!!!
Johnny Rexx
wrapdress
05-06-2009, 04:53 AM
Ray-there is a bar/restaurant with this concept in Charlotte...It is called, fittingly enough, Bikini's.
Earl_the_Pearl
05-06-2009, 09:07 PM
Im going to invest arguably 4-500K ....?
I have the perfect place for you; Ray's Inn. This is no joke Ray is asking 500K for the business he doesn't own the building but you can continue the lease.
Owner of Andover bar injured in fight
ANDOVER TOWNSHIP — Four men were arrested following a fight in the parking lot of Ray’s Inn early Saturday morning.
According to Andover Township police, the owner of the inn and an employee were injured in the fight, which broke out at 12:48 a.m.
The fight comes just two months after a police raid at the go-go bar, where four exotic dancers and a patron were arrested on drug, prostitution and gun charges.
Golden_Rule
05-06-2009, 10:41 PM
I have the perfect place for you; Ray's Inn. This is no joke Ray is asking 500K for the business he doesn't own the building but you can continue the lease.
http://www.njherald.com/story/news/ray-s-inn
That or the Pavilion over in Budd Lake. Bigger layout, multiple pool tables, local crowd. Very pretty setting siting right on the lake front with big parking lot. Stages for live band but no real house sound system to speak of.
I went out to look at it myself as a possible location for a NJ private party.
charlie61
05-06-2009, 11:39 PM
This thread stressed me out.
It does make me sick how often I hear (usually intelligent) businessmen say "OH MY GAWD! I should open up a strip club!!!!!!" As if they're the only people who have ever thought of this.
Granted, some of these people succeed (or so I'd assume). But considering everyone and their dog wants to do this, and very (very very) few people actually end up owning (much less profiting off of) such businesses....well...that's why you got jumped on, Ray. Similar to a stripper going "Oh my god! I should start making $3000 every night! Why didn't I think of that before??"
Earl_the_Pearl
05-07-2009, 04:25 PM
That or the Pavilion over in Budd Lake.
That "club" is a perfect example of an owner not having a clue. That place used to be five deep at the bar. I will give the owner credit for getting the bar the way she did.
I still say he should buy Ray's the name could remain the same. I know a dancer that would love to manage it for him.
CKXXX
05-08-2009, 05:08 PM
Ray-there is a bar/restaurant with this concept in Charlotte...It is called, fittingly enough, Bikini's.
I know the owner of that one! He's a semi-reg on webcam! Cool guy
hl1986
05-15-2009, 01:48 AM
look, im not going to open one up on the basis of what I read here, obviously. Im just trying to get a guage of numbers from people on this site that might have that kind of info.
We own resteraunts, gas stations, and other franchise businesses. I know fully well how businesses work. And I completely agree that it is foolish to get into a business without having been in it.
the recession has hit us all. But people that understand the game know how to tweak business to profit. Offering different services or catering to a niche market. When, and if, I ever open a SC it will be after lots market and bus. analysis.
Back to the question. Anyone that is a manager or owner of a club, your respnse is appreciated.
Since you know how businesses work.. THIS IS A CULTURE, you can't just "come in" and run a business in the sex industry - successfully. IMO, I recommend sticking to your gas stations. ::)
hl1986
05-15-2009, 01:50 AM
this is absolutely ridiculous, and quite absurd as far as im concerned.
Im going to invest arguably 4-500K to fucking date you?
you are either retarded or delusional.
$400k?! Ummm, is that really what you think it would cost to open up a club?! :banghead: :O
hl1986
05-15-2009, 02:02 AM
the bizben example was just to show you the listings that were available.
Speremint Rhino in LV MIGHT be 15 million.
but my estimate of around 2 mill for contemporary 5000 sq. ft bikini bar/sports-tavern is correct. And that would be with land.
And please don't slight me without knowing anything about me. Coffee shop? really?
We own 4 sonics 5 subways 2 chevrons and 1 76 gas station. I run a managment team for my dad and 2 other partners.
Total assets around 20mill
Paris, i don't know what i said to "e-anger" you, but I assure you...im not trying to "troll" anyone.
All i wanted to know was what kind of numbers i can expect, and some of the hurdles that would come in the way. i've gotten some good responses, but mostly ad homenim attacks. i dont get it.
PS: If you were a club owner and the dancers on this board were your employees, you'd be f*cked. Obviously you aren't being well received well by the demographic you MUST employ, in order to keep your doors open.
If we were all in the locker room, disliking you and LAUGHING at you (as we are here on SW, right now) how exactly would you keep us from going to the club down the block?
You clearly don't understand this business because you're pissing everyone that IS in the biz ,off. Dude, you are soooo a dime a dozen ::)::)::)::) ...
Earl_the_Pearl
05-15-2009, 06:40 PM
Raysworld has left the building.