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Hopper
05-17-2009, 05:50 PM
Actually no. It was that he was actually genuine that made the difference... and you know what? I laughed at him anyway, and then he bought 2 triples from me and proceeded to have me sit on his lap and do nothing but talk so that he could look into my eyes.
I couldn't do that. I like the way a girl's eyes go with her tits. That's a facetious way of saying I like the whole package.
You have expensive eyes.
Hopper
05-17-2009, 05:57 PM
^I'm gonna say, from a customer's point of view, that if we have the urge to compliment you (in a tasteful way, tasteful being defined by the atmosphere of the particular environment), we should just do it. You can feel it's real, fake, or otherwise (and so can we), but if it's part of the experience that makes it better for us, it seems relatively harmless.
Agreed. I made this point in the other thread Earl posted a link to above. You are dancing and stripping and walking about in lingerie. It's not nice to notice tits and ass OTC but ITC we are supposed to. On the other hand, if it's not polite to talk about your boobs or your butt until you strip for us in the private area (where I think it would be weird not to - while we are fondling them) then all that's left are your eyes, smile, hair and cloths. Voice? Perfume? Skin? I think "figure" would be allowed considering the place. You want to know how you are doing, don't you? It's a strip club - the behaviour in there is not the usual.
stressed
05-17-2009, 05:59 PM
I love the hair. If i compliment it is usually hair, eyes, or mouth. I am the guy that will wait until you get comfortable with me before i ask to touch the hair ( and it wont be during a dance). Havent been denied yet, but i am sure i will before i am done. My last dancer was just okay below the head but the hair, eyes and mouth and of course Conversation kept me for 5 hours. I might look away from the face once or twice during a dance but very seldom.
Hopper
05-17-2009, 05:59 PM
Yes, if that is the determining factor for someone.
It seemed Earl was talking about consequences. I don't get it. No it's not a determining factor. You think I live in those places?
Hopper
05-17-2009, 06:02 PM
¿Pulling? If that means "date" no. If that means date yes.
Still not helpful Earl. Pulling means getting a number or taking home. I don't know the difference in meaning of "date" and "'date'".
Hopper
05-17-2009, 06:09 PM
How do you shop for clothes if you don't know your size? Anyway size does not matter; what matters is the ratio of hips to waist and bust.
It is show business, it's called stage makeup.
Try them on. I know my sizes but I still have to - like Charlie61 says, sizes vary between countries and brands (and also different cuts, colours, patterns etc. suit different people).
LOL - now you're going to give them complexes about their WHRs.
They aren't always on stage - they work the room too.
commanderadama
05-17-2009, 07:08 PM
Every store has different sizing charts. At Abercrombie, you can be an anorexic 14-year old and still be a size 2, for example.
Anyway, I buy most of my clothes from Goodwill (you have to look hard to find the nice stuff :))
Vanity Sizing, bane of the modern world. 8)
Measurements of 34,24,35 is generally considered a size 4 with a max height of 5'7"
glambman
05-17-2009, 07:51 PM
Getting back to the eyes......I was trained in life to look a person in the eyes. It is still awkward for me to have a (or some) partially naked or fully naked women 'with' me and I'm doing my best to maintain eye contact. lol (silly me)
On another note, they say the eyes are a gateway to ones soul. I think you can 'read' the eyes and 'know about the person'. With that said, a beautiful pair of eyes (for me) is worth more than other physical features.
JayATee
05-17-2009, 08:23 PM
Vanity Sizing, bane of the modern world. 8)
Measurements of 34,24,35 is generally considered a size 4 with a max height of 5'7"
Where did you get that from? I wear girls size 12 and Im 34 23 34.
JayATee
05-17-2009, 08:25 PM
I couldn't do that. I like the way a girl's eyes go with her tits. That's a facetious way of saying I like the whole package.
You have expensive eyes.
Depends on what you're into. He's not the norm, obviously. I'm just saying complimenting me on something other than what I very much have displayed will always get my attention.
Earl_the_Pearl
05-17-2009, 09:59 PM
(you have to look hard to find the nice stuff) :)
Not in the "clubs", that is why I love them so. :yummy:
Earl_the_Pearl
05-17-2009, 10:06 PM
Still not helpful Earl. Pulling means getting a number or taking home. I don't know the difference in meaning of "date" and "'date'".
A "date" is an exchange of money for sex; a women on the street asked if me if I want a "date". As opposed to a date to the prom.
Earl_the_Pearl
05-17-2009, 10:11 PM
Getting back to the eyes......I was trained in life to look a person in the eyes.
PL stripper relationships are not real life. The sooner PLs get it the better it will be for all of us. Strippers get and they get it quick and will never let a PL forget it. :-[
Hopper
05-17-2009, 11:23 PM
Depends on what you're into. He's not the norm, obviously. I'm just saying complimenting me on something other than what I very much have displayed will always get my attention.
Yes, that would be a reason why I'd compliment eyes or hair. But if a dancer has her boobs inches from my face I think she'd worry if I didn't say something nice about them.
Hopper
05-17-2009, 11:32 PM
Getting back to the eyes......I was trained in life to look a person in the eyes. It is still awkward for me to have a (or some) partially naked or fully naked women 'with' me and I'm doing my best to maintain eye contact. lol (silly me).
Like Earl says - you weren't trained on how to behave around women who are eagerly displaying their bodies. In a SC you can look elsewhere some of the time - it's the reason they are dressed that way. But it's a contradictory situation. Behind the "rantasy" they are real girls, so they will naturally like you to treat them the same way they would like you to treat them OTC. However, they are also marketting the male fantasy, so n order for them to make money you have to check them out all over. They want both, but it has to be compromise.
glambman
05-18-2009, 12:20 AM
Like Earl says - you weren't trained on how to behave around women who are eagerly displaying their bodies.
lol who gets trained? It was a little tongue in cheek. Decorum does not go out the window when you are in an alternative setting. And you're right, I was not trained how to behave around women who are eagerly displaying their bodies, (that's why I have the self control to resist them <if I want>, unlike others). 8)
Earl_the_Pearl
05-18-2009, 12:21 AM
Behind the "rantasy" they are real girls, so they will naturally like you to treat them the same way they would like you to treat them OTC.
Point of order; OTC means a paid "date"/lap dance/champagne-VIP room experience out of the club with a "happy ending". If a PL is dating a stripper that is not what I call OTC; I call that a death by a thousand cuts. :-[
vmurphy252
05-18-2009, 12:26 AM
^Per other threads, I think some of the dancers are going to take issue with OTC automatically meaning a "happy ending". Haven't had an OTC experience myself, so I am purely speaking (well, typing) from what I've read elsewhere on the board.
glambman
05-18-2009, 12:26 AM
Behind the "rantasy" they are real girls, so they will naturally like you to treat them the same way they would like you to treat them OTC.
And all this time I thought they wanted to be talked lowly too, looked down upon, hit, and all that other demeaning stuff. Maybe that is why I have lots of luck 'dating' strippers, treat them like they deserve to be treated. ::)
OTC does not mean IRL (in real life), which is the term I think you are going for.
JayATee
05-18-2009, 12:27 AM
Point of order; OTC means a paid "date"/lap dance/champagne-VIP room experience out of the club with a "happy ending". If a PL is dating a stripper that is not what I call OTC; I call that a death by a thousand cuts. :-[
Wow, so anyone that is dating a stripper is torturing himself to death? Are you yet another woman hater? Why is it torture to date a dancer?
There are a lot of girls both married and in relationships on this board. Somehow I think their SO's might seriously disagree with you.
/end thread jack.
vmurphy252
05-18-2009, 12:30 AM
^I think the scenario is more a customer dating a dancer, not relationships with dancers in general. I could be wrong though... and your point may still be valid in either case.
vmurphy252
05-18-2009, 12:30 AM
^I sound like I'm a gay English teacher from the way I type.
JayATee
05-18-2009, 12:30 AM
Yes, that would be a reason why I'd compliment eyes or hair. But if a dancer has her boobs inches from my face I think she'd worry if I didn't say something nice about them.
I would only worry if you weren't paying attention to them honestly, but that's just me. Spoken compliments aren't necessary imo. I can tell if you're into just by how you look at me, and the best way to show your appreciation is by tipping me.
Again, this is just my personal opinion.
JayATee
05-18-2009, 12:32 AM
^I think the scenario is more a customer dating a dancer, not relationships with dancers in general. I could be wrong though... and your point may still be valid in either case.
If they're dating aren't they past customer and dancer? Unless we're talking sugar daddy's.
vmurphy252
05-18-2009, 12:35 AM
^I think that's what causes the death by a thousand cuts. The customer coming to terms with his previous obsession now dating him, but being the obsession of others still. And all the other stuff. Just my point of view though. Not meaning to talk for Earl or what he was trying to convey.
Hopper
05-18-2009, 12:38 AM
Point of order; OTC means a paid "date"/lap dance/champagne-VIP room experience out of the club with a "happy ending". If a PL is dating a stripper that is not what I call OTC; I call that a death by a thousand cuts. :-[
I meant the way they and all other women would like to be treated by all men, not just patrons, OTC. Perhaps I should have said IRL
Death - how so? If he gets to date a stripper, then is he a PL? He won!
Hopper
05-18-2009, 12:41 AM
And all this time I thought they wanted to be talked lowly too, looked down upon, hit, and all that other demeaning stuff. Maybe that is why I have lots of luck 'dating' strippers, treat them like they deserve to be treated. ::)
OTC does not mean IRL (in real life), which is the term I think you are going for.
Yes, thank you, IRL. I'm new. You missed my point: I was talking about the contradiction between what girls like IRL and what strippers want ITC. Their IRL wishes conflict with their ITC wishes.
vmurphy252
05-18-2009, 12:43 AM
TLC is one of my favorite channels.
Hopper
05-18-2009, 12:44 AM
I would only worry if you weren't paying attention to them honestly, but that's just me. Spoken compliments aren't necessary imo. I can tell if you're into just by how you look at me, and the best way to show your appreciation is by tipping me.
Again, this is just my personal opinion.
Good point. If you can tell I'm not looking out of poiteness, the compliment is implied. But do you like it if the patron does compliment them - during an LD when they are about in the centre of his vision anyway?
Hopper
05-18-2009, 12:45 AM
^I think that's what causes the death by a thousand cuts. The customer coming to terms with his previous obsession now dating him, but being the obsession of others still. And all the other stuff. Just my point of view though. Not meaning to talk for Earl or what he was trying to convey.
Like he goes out of his way to do that.
JayATee
05-18-2009, 12:48 AM
Good point. If you can tell I'm not looking out of poiteness, the compliment is implied. But do you like it if the patron does compliment them - during an LD when they are about in the centre of his vision anyway?
I certainly do not mind compliments lol (what girl does). I work very hard on my body, and I also spent quite a bit of money on my breasts so it's always nice when it's appreciated/admired.
vmurphy252
05-18-2009, 12:51 AM
Good point. If you can tell I'm not looking out of poiteness, the compliment is implied. But do you like it if the patron does compliment them - during an LD when they are about in the centre of his vision anyway?
Obviously not answering the question directed at JAY, but, when I am getting a dance, my eyes are constantly going back to her eyes/face. I definitely look at her body, but if I am getting nothing from her eyes/expression, there is not likely to be any additional dances. I've even been with someone for several dances, and I'll catch her doing the looking in the mirror thing, and I lose my, um, focus.
glambman
05-18-2009, 12:52 AM
Yes, thank you, IRL. I'm new. You missed my point: I was talking about the contradiction between what girls like IRL and what strippers want ITC. Their IRL wishes conflict with their ITC wishes.
I don't know about that, IRL women are always trying to hook guys so they can take their money and his house/ cars. ITC women are only trying to take the custie's money away from him, saying (and sometimes doing) anything. See, it doesn't seem that different, IRL and ITC they just want the greens. lol
I think they (IRL and ITC) have to be put into perspective: are your work wishes the same as your personal wishes? See, two different but not contradictory set of rules.
JayATee
05-18-2009, 12:55 AM
I don't know about that, IRL women are always trying to hook guys so they can take their money and his house/ cars.
You're hanging out with the wrong women...
glambman
05-18-2009, 01:12 AM
You're hanging out with the wrong women...
But I used a lol at the end of the paragraph. ;)
And even then, tis true <not all of the enemy though>. And no, I don't voluntarily hang out with them, they don't take no well <like RoboStrippers>. lol
Earl_the_Pearl
05-18-2009, 01:54 AM
^I think that's what causes the death by a thousand cuts. The customer coming to terms with his previous obsession now dating him, but being the obsession of others still. And all the other stuff. Just my point of view though. Not meaning to talk for Earl or what he was trying to convey.
Well said but it goes beyond his date being the "obsession of others"; although being the "obsession of others" is a big part of why a stripper is so desirable as a date.
Now that I think of it any man/woman relationships is a death by a thousand cuts. :boobies:
JayATee
05-18-2009, 02:19 AM
Well said but it goes beyond his date being the "obsession of others"; although being the "obsession of others" is a big part of why a stripper is so desirable as a date.
Now that I think of it any man/woman relationships is a death by a thousand cuts. :boobies:
Yeap... that's the answer I expected lol.
Hopper
05-18-2009, 05:16 AM
Obviously not answering the question directed at JAY, but, when I am getting a dance, my eyes are constantly going back to her eyes/face. I definitely look at her body, but if I am getting nothing from her eyes/expression, there is not likely to be any additional dances. I've even been with someone for several dances, and I'll catch her doing the looking in the mirror thing, and I lose my, um, focus.
Clarify that last sentence? You mean you look at her tits when she's not looking at you? That is being focused. Hey I just look at the whole girl, which you aren't allowed to do really IRL - gotta look mostly at faces. ITC I don't do the opposite, i.e. look everywhere else but her eyes, I'm just allowed to look at all of her while I'm talking to her. I like the whole girl.
Hopper
05-18-2009, 05:24 AM
lol who gets trained? It was a little tongue in cheek. Decorum does not go out the window when you are in an alternative setting. And you're right, I was not trained how to behave around women who are eagerly displaying their bodies, (that's why I have the self control to resist them <if I want>, unlike others). 8)
Not saying there's no decorum- just different decorum to the IRL situations you are brought up to deal with. Er, if you are not trained to be around naked women I don't think it will make them easier to resist. Wasn't implying that you need special training for that anyway. It's just that the rules are more relaxed.
Hopper
05-18-2009, 05:32 AM
I don't know about that, IRL women are always trying to hook guys so they can take their money and his house/ cars. ...
I think they (IRL and ITC) have to be put into perspective: are your work wishes the same as your personal wishes? See, two different but not contradictory set of rules.
Wasn't talking about money. I was talking about the difference between talking to a girl at a bus stop and talking to a girl who was just shaking her ass in your face on stage in a g-string and is now talking to you wearing a negligee over that g-string and heels and wants to dance on your lap naked.
Who's work wishes are the same as their personal wishes? A lucky few. Some of them strippers, but not all strippers. I was talking about how girls like to be looked at and spoken to etc. ITC their business interaction conflicts withtheir naturally preferred interaction. Because their business is to cater to male fantasies, which we all know women don't normally like to act out except on special occasions.
vmurphy252
05-18-2009, 05:50 AM
Clarify that last sentence? You mean you look at her tits when she's not looking at you? That is being focused. Hey I just look at the whole girl, which you aren't allowed to do really IRL - gotta look mostly at faces. ITC I don't do the opposite, i.e. look everywhere else but her eyes, I'm just allowed to look at all of her while I'm talking to her. I like the whole girl.
Focus = erection. Guess I need to work on euphemistic language.
I like the whole girl too, but it revolves around the eyes for me, and what they are expressing (not arguing about the REALITY of what they're expressing; acting is part of their job).
Hopper
05-18-2009, 06:26 AM
Focus = erection. Guess I need to work on euphemistic language.
I like the whole girl too, but it revolves around the eyes for me, and what they are expressing (not arguing about the REALITY of what they're expressing; acting is part of their job).
Nope, reread that post and I still don't get it. You're gonna have to draw it for me.
vmurphy252
05-18-2009, 06:59 AM
^Not drawing my erection on this forum. Not gonna happen.
vmurphy252
05-18-2009, 07:01 AM
^Besides, I'd have to scale it down for those of you with 17" monitors.
Wocka, wocka, wocka.
Hopper
05-18-2009, 07:15 AM
^I meant a diagram. Of the previous post. Your erection doesn't have to be to scale.
commanderadama
05-18-2009, 04:29 PM
Where did you get that from? I wear girls size 12 and Im 34 23 34.
Hmmm, I distinctly remember you stating you were a 0 in another thread. Do you just like disagreeing with me? /:O
I rounded bust up and hips down. So basically when I say 4 or less, I mean a woman between 5' and 5'5" who's bust is 34 or less, waist is 25 or less and hips are 35 or less. With me less is more. :D
Celebrity examples of "my types" are Ellen Page, Emmanuelle Chriqui, Audrey Tautou & ATF Audrey Hepburn.
Elvia
05-18-2009, 04:43 PM
^^^ A girl's size 12 is roughly the equivalent of a woman's 0.
When I first got into the sex industry, a mentor once told me "most guys have no idea what measurements really mean. They just think it's impressive when you start rattling off numbers". This has proven to be more true than I realized at the time.
JayATee
05-19-2009, 12:23 AM
Hmmm, I distinctly remember you stating you were a 0 in another thread. Do you just like disagreeing with me? /:O
http://www.usatourist.com/english/tips/womens-sizes.html
I rounded bust up and hips down. So basically when I say 4 or less, I mean a woman between 5' and 5'5" who's bust is 34 or less, waist is 25 or less and hips are 35 or less. With me less is more. :D
Celebrity examples of "my types" are Ellen Page, Emmanuelle Chriqui, Audrey Tautou & ATF Audrey Hepburn.
No. It's simply that you don't know what you're talking about. When I have to wear women's sizes I wear a 0 or 00. When I can find girls clothes that fit they're a sz. 12. Many women wear more than one sz since clothing is cut differently. To base a woman's attractiveness on her pants size is absurd.
Andy08
05-19-2009, 04:40 PM
Honestly, there aren't many compliments that will flatter me at work...I hear so many of them over and over...they go in one ear and out the other. Eyes, hair, back, smile, tits, stomach, ass, legs, feet, intelligence, personality, humor, dance moves...blah, blah, whatever...I'm still not going out with you, asshole.
charlie61
05-19-2009, 04:45 PM
^ Harsh, but that's what it boils down to for me, too. I've seen it all. Only man I'm going home with is Benjamin.