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gameover
05-31-2009, 09:06 AM
This. Breasts are like pokemon: gotta catch em all!
Not everyone. If I can tell they are fake, I get no dances. I always wait until I see a dancer topless on stage, because fake ones can look good in a bikini top, but they usually look awful naked. And of course, after the "touch" test, if they feel fake, that's a showstopper for future dances.
There are some guys who fall into the bigger the better category, but I don't mind smaller ones as long as they are natural. Most of my ATF's had perfectly shaped B cups.
I think the biggest mistake most dancers make is thinking a boob job will make them more money. Maybe it does for a small minority, but for most, I think that, while it will gain you a few big boob lovers, it will lose you an equal number like me who prefer natural. And some of us natural lovers like me spend pretty well :)
moscm
05-31-2009, 07:51 PM
Definitely, definely prefer natural.
I don't like female parts whcih feel like basketballs.
JayATee
05-31-2009, 09:00 PM
^If they feel like basketballs then it's a terrible terrible job. BA's that are done well do not feel like this. I have saline and mine could not possibly feel more natural.
Golden_Rule
05-31-2009, 09:24 PM
^If they feel like basketballs then it's a terrible terrible job. BA's that are done well do not feel like this. I have saline and mine could not possibly feel more natural.
I have yet to feel a truly natural BA as I can always feel the bag, or at the very least the port for the injection of the saline. I've seen good looking BAs but they never pass the feel test as per the above.
Someday, if yours are that good, and you are of a mind I surely wouldn't mind being exposed [pardon the punny :) ] to a truly natural looking AND FEELING augmented pair as I just don't think it is possible since, as I said, I've yet to meet anyone who has had work that good.
JayATee
06-01-2009, 04:26 PM
Ok, but I still don't understand why this effects who you get dances from. You shouldn't be touching the girls anyway, so who cares how a dancers breasts feel?
bem401
06-01-2009, 04:45 PM
Ok, but I still don't understand why this effects who you get dances from. You shouldn't be touching the girls anyway, so who cares how a dancers breasts feel?
Where you dance determines how much contact a guy has with a dancer's breasts. In my area, breast to face contact happens right on stage and hand to breast contact is more common than not in private dances. As far as choosing who to do dances with, I prefer natural to bolt-ons and would have zero interest in doing a dance with any of the girls with huge implants.
slowpoke
06-01-2009, 04:47 PM
Natural
gradpsych
06-01-2009, 10:01 PM
Definitely natural. I love to have just enough to where I can cup 1 with a hand and that suits me just fine :)
Golden_Rule
06-02-2009, 04:29 PM
Ok, but I still don't understand why this effects who you get dances from. You shouldn't be touching the girls anyway, so who cares how a dancers breasts feel?
Well you can't really say that, to be honest.
What would be proper to say is that I shouldn't be touching dancers in the clubs YOU work in because you choose to work in clubs where that isn't allowed.
Since I don't think people ought to be setting limits for consenting adults other than themselves that leaves a place open for clubs with rules that where dancer and customer are on the same page and completely consenting there is room for some touching going on.
So just like people who do those sorts of things shouldn't be telling you that you ought to just get used to the fact that it goes on so live with it, others shouldn't be telling them, again in clubs where it isn't against the house rules, not to behave as they wish.
JayATee
06-02-2009, 10:15 PM
Well you can't really say that, to be honest.
What would be proper to say is that I shouldn't be touching dancers in the clubs YOU work in because you choose to work in clubs where that isn't allowed.
Since I don't think people ought to be setting limits for consenting adults other than themselves that leaves a place open for clubs with rules that where dancer and customer are on the same page and completely consenting there is room for some touching going on.
So just like people who do those sorts of things shouldn't be telling you that you ought to just get used to the fact that it goes on so live with it, others shouldn't be telling them, again in clubs where it isn't against the house rules, not to behave as they wish.
I'm not going to comment on this, it would be a huge threadjack. Suffice to say I STRONGLY disagree, but I'll leave it at that.
gameover
06-03-2009, 04:51 PM
Well you can't really say that, to be honest.
What would be proper to say is that I shouldn't be touching dancers in the clubs YOU work in because you choose to work in clubs where that isn't allowed.
Since I don't think people ought to be setting limits for consenting adults other than themselves that leaves a place open for clubs with rules that where dancer and customer are on the same page and completely consenting there is room for some touching going on.
So just like people who do those sorts of things shouldn't be telling you that you ought to just get used to the fact that it goes on so live with it, others shouldn't be telling them, again in clubs where it isn't against the house rules, not to behave as they wish.
Suffice to say, I STRONGLY agree and I'll leave it at that :)
verfolgung
06-03-2009, 05:48 PM
Ok, but I still don't understand why this effects who you get dances from. You shouldn't be touching the girls anyway, so who cares how a dancers breasts feel?
Well you can't really say that, to be honest.
What would be proper to say is that I shouldn't be touching dancers in the clubs YOU work in because you choose to work in clubs where that isn't allowed.
Since I don't think people ought to be setting limits for consenting adults other than themselves that leaves a place open for clubs with rules that where dancer and customer are on the same page and completely consenting there is room for some touching going on. ...
Golden_Rule, Are the clubs you visit in NJ juice bars? If they serve Alcohol JayATee may be more right than you think. Heh. ;)
Of course some owner/managers may look the other way, and some dancers may be willing, but according to the NJ Liquor licensing regs. licensed establishments are not supposed to allow contact. D'oh!
http://www.nj.gov/oag/abc/downloads/abchandbook02.pdf
(Sections in the NJ ABC Handbook are alphabetical)
GO-GO DANCERS
WHAT ARE THE RESTRICTIONS ON GO-GO DANCING?
Go-Go dancing, just as other live entertainment, cannot involve persons under the age of 18 years (see “Age Limits”) and cannot involve “lewd or immoral activity.” (N.J.A.C. 13:2-23.6.) Such lewd or immoral activity generally involves the lack of attire or covering on genitals or “private parts,” as well as female breasts. See-through garments and the use of “pasties” are not considered sufficient covering. Simulation of sexual activity, even if clothed, is also prohibited. Dancers are not permitted to touch or be touched by patrons, and this includes the placing of tips in the costume of the dancer. A dancer also cannot solicit drinks from patrons.
ETA: Here's another interesting article...
http://www.nj.com/news/local/index.ssf/2009/04/troubled_history_could_force_c.html
Earl_the_Pearl
06-03-2009, 06:21 PM
Golden_Rule, Are the clubs you visit in NJ juice bars? If they serve Alcohol JayATee may be more right than you think. Heh. ;)
If NJ ABC rules were followed to the letter I would save a bunch of money. The hustle factor would be nonexistent as all PLs would know they aren't going to get anything. Not even a glimpse of a nipple.
The only dancers that could possible make it would be 18 to 24 year old 10s. All others need not apply.
As for Ray's that club is in the heavily Republican woods of NJ. In Paterson it would be boring.
verfolgung
06-03-2009, 06:27 PM
Well I wasn't commenting on the reality of the situation, as I'm sure there is plenty of activity to be found.
Just pointing out that JayATee's comment was not completely baseless.
In addition, not only would breast contact technically be a violation the NJ ABC rules, but even if it takes place in a juice bar it would fall under NJ's prositution statue: NJSA 2C:34-1.
(1) "Prostitution" is sexual activity with another person in exchange for something of economic value, or the offer or acceptance of an offer to engage in sexual activity in exchange for something of economic value.
(2) "Sexual activity" includes, but is not limited to, sexual intercourse, including genital-genital, oral-genital, anal-genital, and oral-anal contact, whether between persons of the same or opposite sex; masturbation; touching of the genitals, buttocks, or female breasts; sadistic or masochistic abuse and other deviate sexual relations.
JayATee
06-03-2009, 07:40 PM
If NJ ABC rules were followed to the letter I would save a bunch of money. The hustle factor would be nonexistent as all PLs would know they aren't going to get anything. Not even a glimpse of a nipple.
Ok, Im honestly really curious as to why this is. I work in a club in NY that the no contact rules (as in no touching the girls) are strictly, strictly enforced. I make plenty of money, my hustle is fine and the guys all know what they will and won't be getting. Private dances are clothes so you don't see anything except on stage, so is it that it's different for you, as in, if that were the case in your clubs you wouldn't go, or is Jersey that diff?
lopaw
06-03-2009, 08:17 PM
I'm curious.
Is the contact level primarily a geographical thing (say..east coast vs. west coast vs. the south), or is it strictly a club by club thing? From what I read here the clubs back east tend to be fairly no contact, while out here in the wild west anything goes (just ask a dancer or customer from the City of Industry area of L.A. :O).
Earl_the_Pearl
06-03-2009, 08:55 PM
Ok, Im honestly really curious as to why this is. I'm saying it loud, I'm a pig and I'm proud. There are so called "gentleman's clubs" in New Jersey; the dancers bathe and don't sag. I don't frequent them as I'm jaded.
Seariously the type of clubs I frequent out number the gentleman's clubs 10 to 1. So I'm not alone in what I chose to spend my money on. I do spend money too, oh do I spend money. :-[
Earl_the_Pearl
06-03-2009, 09:01 PM
From what I read here the clubs back east tend to be fairly no contact,
If you consider Paterson or Irvington New Jersey back east you heard wrong.
Can we talk? I'm talking Harry James singing at the bar for .2 and a drink.
JayATee
06-03-2009, 09:07 PM
I'm saying it loud, I'm a pig and I'm proud. There are so called "gentleman's clubs" in New Jersey; the dancers bathe and don't sag. I don't frequent them as I'm jaded.
Seariously the type of clubs I frequent out number the gentleman's clubs 10 to 1. So I'm not alone in what I chose to spend my money on. I do spend money too, oh do I spend money. :-[
I'm not judging, I'm asking a real question because I don't understand. Are they juice bars? Bc I work in a club that sells alcohol and the sla is in all the time, meaning my club is way more concerned about keeping its liquor license than letting guys touch the girls.
Earl_the_Pearl
06-03-2009, 09:24 PM
Well I wasn't commenting on the reality of the situation, as I'm sure there is plenty of activity to be found.
There was a "go-go" bar in the town I reside. This was back when a dancer had to wear pantry hose. That site is now a park as a "go-go" bar was an affront to the moral character of the heavily Republican church going population.
Now how clean do you want it; so clean that the club is now a park where children play or randy enough to permit dancers to hustle a buck?
JayATee
06-03-2009, 09:30 PM
Now how clean do you want it; so clean that the club is now a park where children play or randy enough to permit dancers to hustle a buck?
That's my point, we hustle and make money just fine where I'm at and we don't have to deal with guys groping us. A guy tries to touch the girls he gets warned not to do it again. If he does, he gets thrown out.
Earl_the_Pearl
06-03-2009, 09:52 PM
I'm not judging, I'm asking a real question because I don't understand. Are they juice bars? Bc I work in a club that sells alcohol and the sla is in all the time, meaning my club is way more concerned about keeping its liquor license than letting guys touch the girls.
It depends on the town and weather or not it is an election year. There are some towns where a "gentlemen's club" would not be tolerated and some where open extras , full service in the shadows, are ignored as long as the proper palms are greased.
For the record; no dancer is forced to do anything in a club by a PL. In even the sleaziest clubs if a dancer protests the PL will not only be bounced he may very well sleep with the fishes. Not really he may just limp for a few years. :P
JayATee
06-03-2009, 09:55 PM
^Ah. Ok. That answers my questions than.
Earl_the_Pearl
06-03-2009, 10:52 PM
^Ah. Ok. That answers my questions than.
I am honoured.
JayATee
06-03-2009, 11:39 PM
I am honoured.
For what? The fact that we had a semi-decent exchange? Don't flatter yourself.
Golden_Rule
06-04-2009, 05:48 PM
I'm not going to comment on this, it would be a huge threadjack. Suffice to say I STRONGLY disagree, but I'll leave it at that.
So what you are suggesting is that you know best and ought be allowed to set the rules for everyone, in all clubs, despite what other grown people with their own minds think about it?
Golden_Rule
06-04-2009, 05:56 PM
Golden_Rule, Are the clubs you visit in NJ juice bars? If they serve Alcohol JayATee may be more right than you think. Heh. ;)
I visit all sorts of S-Cs. From my main hang out which is quite minimalist [basically "Cheers", all regulars - bikini dancers included and good food to the parties I help run which are nothing like anything I've seen in the region.
There is room for all of it IF everyone involved is of legal age, operating under fully informed consent, and on the same page.
Apparently I am not anywhere near as judgmental as Jay. :)
Of course some owner/managers may look the other way, and some dancers may be willing, but according to the NJ Liquor licensing regs. licensed establishments are not supposed to allow contact. D'oh!
I love it. He's quoting NJ State law to the retired NJ police detective who use to enforce those laws.
Gotta love it. :)
I'm retired now so I don't have to hold the company line anymore. This stuff ought to be legalized, zoned, licensed and have taxes collected on it so that like minded adults can do as they please without the intrusion of the state in a way where others who don't want to be bothered don't have to be, and where the money paid out to clean up any mess made comes from those involved and not the general tax fund.
Golden_Rule
06-04-2009, 06:23 PM
Ok, Im honestly really curious as to why this is. I work in a club in NY that the no contact rules (as in no touching the girls) are strictly, strictly enforced. I make plenty of money, my hustle is fine and the guys all know what they will and won't be getting. Private dances are clothes so you don't see anything except on stage, so is it that it's different for you, as in, if that were the case in your clubs you wouldn't go, or is Jersey that diff?
Depends how you define "different" as the clubs of NY and NJ actually aren't all that different at all when you get down to it.
To be very candid with you there are no clubs in NYC where FoM's with enough money can't get past restrictions. There isn't a club in Manhattan or Queens [I'm not big on the clubs of Brooklyn, SI or the Bronx] where I haven't gotten SFT in the VIP. That includes PEC, Hustler, Millennium, all the Flash Dance clubs, Ricks, Dolls, Tens, PE, etc, etc, etc. So I am talking not only from info I know from 30 years banging around the clubs of the greater NYC area but from first hand experience.
The hard truth follows: I will go on record saying that THERE IS NOT A SINGLE HIGH END CLUB IN NYC THAT CAN SAY THAT IT NEVER HAD AN ACT OF PROSTITUTION GO DOWN INSIDE OF IT.
There is always some movie star, pro athlete, whale, good tipping regular, Friend of Management, etc and so forth, who has been given Special F*'ing Treatment in the VIP.
If you know people and/or you have money the sky is the limit. It has ALWAYS been that way and nothing is different now. In fact the ONLY club I haven't had SFT in is Scores and that is because I chose not to go that route there because management was just too scuzzy for words and I wouldn't give them the satisfaction of allowing them to think I owed them a favor.
So, and I mean this with honest respect, when you suggest "no one is doing anything in my club" it just makes you seem a tad naive, and I truly think you are smarter than that.
Golden_Rule
06-04-2009, 06:32 PM
From what I read here the clubs back east tend to be fairly no contact, while out here in the wild west anything goes (just ask a dancer or customer from the City of Industry area of L.A. :O).
ALERT: Candid, grown up talk to follow. If you'd rather not read the truth please skip this post.
That isn't true at all, Lopaw. The clubs in Fla, especially in the Palms/Pompano area are just short of brothels. The clubs in Rhode Island, especially in Providence ARE brothels. Pockets of clubs in various cities of NY, NJ, CT and PA provide extras ranging from hand jobs all the way up to full service on site [the clubs of Long Island City in Queens, NY, for example]. Many more offer dancers who will see customers off site for what amounts to full fledged escorting.
It simply is as it is. I am NOT suggesting it is as it ought to be, though I do believe that ADULTS should be legally allowed to practice their sexuality, whether that be as a commodity or not, as they see fit so long as everyone involved is operating under fully informed consent.
[If such were the case perhaps all the prostitution could find other venues besides S-Cs and then S-Cs could be allowed to go back to what they once were]
Golden_Rule
06-04-2009, 06:42 PM
^Ah. Ok. That answers my questions than.
Now I don't understand?
What was it about the phrase "fully informed mutual consent" that I was using to describe the activities in these clubs that you didn't understand early? :)
verfolgung
06-04-2009, 06:45 PM
... I love it. He's quoting NJ State law to the retired NJ police detective who use to enforce those laws.
Gotta love it. :) ...
Yup, I know. I'm pretty sure you've mentioned it once or twice (more like several times) in previous posts. The irony was just too good to pass up. Heh.
Golden_Rule
06-04-2009, 08:01 PM
Yup, I know. I'm pretty sure you've mentioned it once or twice (more like several times) in previous posts. The irony was just too good to pass up. Heh.
It was almost half my life time, so it looms large I suppose. As I get further and further away from it I suppose it will seem less so...
But on this site, when people keep bringing up situations where my former employment has direct application... like your post above, and the one where a woman needs a temporary restraining order [actually several of those], etc, etc, how can I not mention it as I keeps coming up as the basis of why I am qualified to answer the question. [and around here if you don't qualify upfront why you are responding someone is bound to say, "Who the blank are you and why don't you keep your opinion to yourself." :) ]
This being such a friendly place and all sometimes... :)
[now, now, don't everyone get all up in my grill... I've been round here long enough that all should know by now I love all my fellow SW'ers... even Yoda }:D ]
JayATee
06-05-2009, 05:41 PM
So what you are suggesting is that you know best and ought be allowed to set the rules for everyone, in all clubs, despite what other grown people with their own minds think about it?
No, I said I wasn't going to comment and I'm not bc Im not interested in debating it with you. Baiting me into answering isn't going to work either.
Now I don't understand?
What was it about the phrase "fully informed mutual consent" that I was using to describe the activities in these clubs that you didn't understand early?
I don't understand what you don't understand. That response was to something Earl had said, nothing to do with you at all.
Golden_Rule
06-06-2009, 08:25 AM
No, I said I wasn't going to comment and I'm not bc Im not interested in debating it with you. Baiting me into answering isn't going to work either.
I'm not baiting you because, 1) I have no interest to do that. 2) I don't think I could even if I wanted to, you are too strong willed for a tactic like that and I am not a stupid man who wouldn't recognize that.
I just asked it because I had a legitimate curiosity to know what your response would be, but if you don't care to answer it its not going to ruin my day [nor yours either I would suppose. :) ]
I don't understand what you don't understand. That response was to something Earl had said, nothing to do with you at all.
Open forums work that way. What you say to one you say to all, who are free to comment. In my opinion that is one of the good things about open forums [when ideas get exchanged and people can learn a bit from each other... rare enough I suppose but when it happens its never a bad thing]
silk55
06-06-2009, 09:29 AM
i prefer implants but that's just me.
JayATee
06-06-2009, 12:01 PM
Open forums work that way. What you say to one you say to all, who are free to comment. In my opinion that is one of the good things about open forums [when ideas get exchanged and people can learn a bit from each other... rare enough I suppose but when it happens its never a bad thing]
Yes, I am aware how open forums work. So, what is it you do not understand?
rockie
06-06-2009, 01:11 PM
I prefer natural! I agree that a well done saline implant makes it hard to tell the difference. Even in "no contact" MA the customer usually gets his face rubbed by the entertainer's breast. Even a foolish customer (me) realizes there are different augmentations and develop a preference.
Golden_Rule
06-09-2009, 05:13 PM
Yes, I am aware how open forums work. So, what is it you do not understand?
{sigh}
:)
JayATee
06-10-2009, 12:18 AM
^I'm not a mind reader. I'll assume if it was worth talking about you would've explained yourself. ::)
Golden_Rule
06-10-2009, 04:07 PM
^I'm not a mind reader. I'll assume if it was worth talking about you would've explained yourself. ::)
I have. You either can't or refuse to hear so we are relegated to the "Department of Redundancy Department" and I acknowledge defeat on the alter of diminishing returns for my efforts to get you to understand what I am driving at.
Sometimes I think that isn't all that unusual for us though [other times I am certain you know damn well what I am getting at but are waging a war of attrition, in which case congrats... you won :) ]
Still know I wish you nothing but well...
Hopper
06-11-2009, 12:27 AM
^She might debate with you if most of your posts weren't so unnecessarily lengthy.
JayATee
06-11-2009, 12:30 AM
I have. You either can't or refuse to hear so we are relegated to the "Department of Redundancy Department" and I acknowledge defeat on the alter of diminishing returns for my efforts to get you to understand what I am driving at.
Sometimes I think that isn't all that unusual for us though [other times I am certain you know damn well what I am getting at but are waging a war of attrition, in which case congrats... you won :) ]
Still know I wish you nothing but well...
/sigh
Wow. Just wow.
the truth
06-11-2009, 02:41 AM
When Golden Rule said he did not understand, it was because you accepted Earl's explanation, but not his and they were basically the same thing.
That is part of the reason for the statement that follows:
by GoldenRule
What was it about the phrase "fully informed mutual consent" that I was using to describe the activities in these clubs that you didn't understand earlier*?
*correction to this word for ease of understanding
NaughtyBebe
06-20-2009, 07:26 PM
Mainly older men are replying about liking natural better. so it depends on whether you want to attract guys 35 and under or old guys 45-65 yr olds. Younger guys don't mind or even like implants from seeing so many in porn. up to you babe, do what makes you happy.
Cyril
06-20-2009, 09:51 PM
I am definitely not that old (45-65). Yet, I like natural boobs.
Hopper
06-20-2009, 10:45 PM
^Same here.
Cyril
06-21-2009, 08:32 AM
^Same here.
We seem to have similar taste. By the way, thanks for the vote of confidence in the other thread!
princessjas
06-21-2009, 03:14 PM
I just want to mention one thing. Nearly all of my regulars insisted they would quit getting dances after my BA. Most BEGGED me not to have it done. In reality, I think only one guy quit coming to the club to see me.
I have a good, natural looking BA with no scarring and nearly everyone was pleasantly suprised and loved the results. So many guys told me that they were so shocked because they NEVER like implants, but thought mine looked great. I DO have quiet a bit of natural breast tissue which causes a much softer feeling result and enables you to keep that natural jiggle that real breasts have as that tissue sits on top of the implant, this also makes it impossible to feel the actual implant. (Although I smack the crap out of custies for trying to feel up my tits.) I really think guys just don't like BAD implants.
katalinda
06-21-2009, 08:15 PM
I just want to mention one thing. Nearly all of my regulars insisted they would quit getting dances after my BA. Most BEGGED me not to have it done. In reality, I think only one guy quit coming to the club to see me.
I have a good, natural looking BA with no scarring and nearly everyone was pleasantly suprised and loved the results. So many guys told me that they were so shocked because they NEVER like implants, but thought mine looked great. I DO have quiet a bit of natural breast tissue which causes a much softer feeling result and enables you to keep that natural jiggle that real breasts have as that tissue sits on top of the implant, this also makes it impossible to feel the actual implant. (Although I smack the crap out of custies for trying to feel up my tits.) I really think guys just don't like BAD implants.
This is a really good point, not all implants have that fake 'bolt on' look that we are so used to seeing in the media and porn. I personally find that look unnattractive, but each to their own..
BA can look great (and surprisingly natural) when it's used to simply add just that little bit of extra volume and exentuate the natural shape of the breast.
When it comes to boobs, fake or not, I'm looking for: Nice shape, nice nipples, perky and in proportion to your body.
Hopper
06-22-2009, 12:37 AM
We seem to have similar taste. By the way, thanks for the vote of confidence in the other thread!
You're welcome, though I didn't get the reason for the other person's comment.
I just had a horrible thought:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQejXCXsnow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRfmgzTAcdE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFo2DC7KhXg&feature=related