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Elvia
06-27-2009, 08:15 PM
^I mean 16 yo might be considered post-adolescent. Wikipedia says girls have reached full physical maturity by age 16. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolescence (Last paragraph under heading "Puberty".)

Again, I don't approve of older men who lay all the 16 yo girls they can. In our culture, girls that age are usually not fully mature socially or psychologically. But that is to do with our culture and their upbringing. However, many 16-yo girls have boyfriends in their 20s. When I was at high school a girl that age I knew had a 26-yo boyfriend.

Generally I like girls 18 and over, since generally they have the level of maturity I prefer.


Wiki is wrong. Not all women have reached "full sexual maturity" by the time they're 16. Just because most of us are mensturating by that time, that doesn't mean our bodies are done changing, and they're certainly not at the same place mentally or emotionally at that age.
I knew plenty of girls in high school who had bf's that age too, many of whom I met. Looking back on it, I can see how fucked up those guys were. I wouldn't go near any of them as an adult woman. Which is probably why they're pursuing high school girls.

Gia2608
06-27-2009, 08:18 PM
Well when I was 14 my bf almost got into trouble (IN RHODE ISLAND OF ALL PLACES) for having sex with me and he was a minor also. Maybe this is a special case as the police tend to give him a hard time (due to his last name_ unless you are from there this probably doesn't make sense to you, but it's well known in the legal sys. LOL). If he had been 18+ he def. would have been arrested for statutory (sp?) rape. So for someone to claim 14, or even 16 is the age of consent, I just can't beleive it.

Earl_the_Pearl
06-27-2009, 08:24 PM
I hear how guys like my little boobs a lot, but then later, I see them getting dances from the girl with the biggest fake boobs in the club...lol :P

There is no doubt in my mind that you get more than your fair share of private dances.


http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/48/l_9a5d9e68bea1235776fea9cf7cad45bd.jpg

Hopper
06-27-2009, 08:33 PM
Gia - statutory rape.

Elvia -

Wiki said physical maturity and did qualify it with "usually". As I said, mental maturity depends on culture and individual upbringing and natural individual development too.

Past a certain age, maturity is relative. A 16-yo girl is less mature than an 18-yo girl, but an 18-yo girl is less mature than a 25-yo girl and so on, all things being equal. Some 8-yo girls I know are more mentally mature than some adult girl I know of all ages.

I don't know many 16-yo girls, so it's hard for me to judge from experience. But it tells you I'm alright.

Earl_the_Pearl
06-27-2009, 08:59 PM
So for someone to claim 14, or even 16 is the age of consent, I just can't beleive it.
The age of consent varies by state and country. In Rhode Island it is 16.
It ranges in the world from none to 20. The most popular number is 16.

It was 12 in the 1800's.
"A statutory age of consent to sexual intercourse for the purposes of the criminal law in the United Kingdom can be found as early as 1275. It was originally 12, was raised to 13 in 1875 and to 16 in 1885."
"In Canada, the age of consent was raised from 14 to 16 on 1 May 2008 (in 1890 it was raised from 12 to 14)."

Golden_Rule
06-28-2009, 12:58 AM
My previous post about old guys wanting to "bang" teenagers was way off topic and half kidding, and mostly drew on the fact that in my experience the younger and younger looking gals in the club don't make money off 21 yr. olds, they make their money off the 55+'ers.

But I thought this thread was about tits, no?

Yeah.

Its just what you said, then the follow up a few posts later by verfolgung.

There was a time I was assigned to a unit that specifically dealt with abused children. We put sicko's like what is being discussed here [people who physically and sexually abuse children] away for a very long time, any time we could.

Some of the worst stuff I've seen had innocents as victims. Real innocents, folks who couldn't fend for themselves being taken advantage of by people who professed to care for them. You can't see that shit and not be effected by it.

My bad. Like I said, a hot button topic. [verfolgung, if you have any class you still own me an apology]

Cyril
06-28-2009, 01:05 AM
There is no doubt in my mind that you get more then your fair share of private dances.


http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/48/l_9a5d9e68bea1235776fea9cf7cad45bd.jpg


I like her attire but she is not very pretty.

Hopper
06-28-2009, 01:50 AM
^Maybe not, but Earl's point is that a dancer doesn't need big boobs to get paid. Small boobs are okay if the girl is hot. I like big tits but small ones can be nice too. Depends on the girl. Natural is better in that case.

mediocrity
06-28-2009, 02:43 AM
I like her attire but she is not very pretty.

You do kow that is the picture of someone on this site? If so, you are a total prick.

Hopper
06-28-2009, 02:58 AM
^How are we supposed to know that unless we've read every thread on the site? Have you seen the size of the member list?

In another thread you called Cyril an idiot and excused it by saying that you are an asshole (your word), so who are you to call him a prick?

http://forum.stripperweb.com/showthread.php?t=131973&page=9
http://forum.stripperweb.com/showthread.php?t=131973&page=10

JayATee
06-28-2009, 03:03 AM
^How are we supposed to know that unless we've read every thread on the site? Have you seen the size of the member list?

In another thread you called Cyril an idiot and excused it by saying that you are an asshole (your word), so who are you to call him a prick?

http://forum.stripperweb.com/showthread.php?t=131973&page=9
http://forum.stripperweb.com/showthread.php?t=131973&page=10

He is, and anyone that reads posts consistently would know she's a member. Where do you think Earl got the pic exactly??

Besides that, she said IF he knew, THAN he was a total prick.

BTW Avery, you're hot as hell in that pic. Ignore the idiots... ;)

Hopper
06-28-2009, 04:25 AM
^How do you know Cyril does read posts consistently? He's been here for less time than me and I've never seen that picture. I don't recall ever even seeing a post by Avery. I don't know where Earl got the pic. He's been here six months longer than me and who says we read all the same threads?

Mediocrity implied that Cyril probably does know then she said if he does he's a prick, so that's virtually saying he is a prick. And you just did the same when you called him an idiot.

When I posted a pic of a nude girl in another thread Cyril asked if she was a stripper on this site, so obviously he doesn't know all the girls here. Ironically he got in trouble from mediocrity for asking that too. (That was when she trolled him.)

And - it's "then", not "than", unless you're typing with your NY accent.

Cyril
06-28-2009, 06:34 AM
Hopper,

You are absolutely correct. I was going to ask if she were a stripper and a member of this website but I did not ask because Mediocrity called me an idiot for asking that question when you posted Wendy Hemilton's picture.

So, I basically guessed she was a movie star or something like that. But alas, this time she turned out to be a member of the website and also a stripper.

- Cyril

Hopper
06-28-2009, 08:20 AM
^Ha! I would have asked again anyway, since mediocrity obviously isn't playing with a full deck. It's okay for me to say that because she and JayATee called you an idiot for no reason. Trolls!

Cyril
06-28-2009, 08:27 AM
They do lack sincerity and that is a characteristic of a troll. Indeed.

princessjas
06-28-2009, 08:31 AM
^How are we supposed to know that unless we've read every thread on the site? Have you seen the size of the member list?

In another thread you called Cyril an idiot and excused it by saying that you are an asshole (your word), so who are you to call him a prick?

http://forum.stripperweb.com/showthread.php?t=131973&page=9
http://forum.stripperweb.com/showthread.php?t=131973&page=10

How the hell could he not figure out that was a pic of Avery? I certainly hadn't seen it posted, but from Earls post figured it out. Sorry, but should she swap and call him an idiot instead of an asshole? After all he should be able to pick his prefered insult (& you should too)... does he want to admit that he was being an ass or play stupid and be called an idiot. >:(

hockeybobby
06-28-2009, 08:32 AM
I like her attire but she is not very pretty.

Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder. I think she is fucking hot.

xdamage
06-28-2009, 08:39 AM
People's bodies never stop changing. There are certain points in their life that are markers of sorts; their birthdate (though neither their bodies nor brains have completed development, they are hopefully old enough to survive outside the womb); a period of time during which men and women's bodies change such that they are able to reproduce; a period of time more so for women during which they lose the ability to reproduce; death.

Maturity is not a black and white moment or an age. Only because the law is not capable of describing this complexity are we relegated to laws that define "ages" where it is legal to have sex, marry, vote, etc. But even then, there are often secondary laws to deal with the more common mitigating circumstances, but not all.

I'm comfortable in saying that when it comes to how people feel about sex during the years when our bodies are going through puberty and the nearest years beyond, you'll NEVER reach world-wide agreement for all cultures for all time. So most of that comes down to a lot of personal beliefs, and the culture you grow up in. All good though... and valid that we try to protect those in our society as they move from childhood to adults.

That said, GR really didn't say "children" and putting those words in house mouth is really no different then screaming "witch!" in the face of an unexplained phenomenon. The reality is if men over and over, across culture after culture, remain attracted to women of reproductive age, there is something to it, 99.9% sure a genetic factor at play. We can either try to understand what is behind it objectively or live in darkness (the same kind of darkness that has cultures exercising demons from people who had mental illness, because they'd rather believe the emotional rhetoric than learn science behind it).

I think the hardest thing is people believe if we face ourselves, we might learn our nature is not always good. That there are aspects to our nature that is, well, simply survival driven, not particularly good (or bad) just instinctual. I think we worry that if we face that head-on that we people will go mad in anarchy and use it as an excuse to be irresponsible.

FWIW it was precisely that same fear that had people terrified of the possibility of acknowledging that women enjoy sex, that it is in their nature to enjoy it, and not because there is something fundamentally wrong with them, or because they are "taught" it by society. And guess what? The whole world didn't fall apart. It doesn't become an excuse to act irresponsibly. We can face human nature head on and really nothing changes. We can do it and still expect people to use their intellect to override their impulses, without pretending they don't have those impulses.

Cyril
06-28-2009, 08:53 AM
Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder. I think she is fucking hot.

I went back and looked at her avtar picture. She looks hot in that.

I think the pic I commented on does not do her a justice. Nevertheless, she really is a good looking girl in her avtar.

Cyril
06-28-2009, 08:57 AM
How the hell could he not figure out that was a pic of Avery? I certainly hadn't seen it posted, but from Earls post figured it out. Sorry, but should she swap and call him an idiot instead of an asshole? After all he should be able to pick his prefered insult (& you should too)... does he want to admit that he was being an ass or play stupid and be called an idiot. >:(

I went back and read Earl's post again. You are correct, I could have put two and two together if I had done the calculation. But I am guilty of not doing the calculation. You are absolutely correct in pointing that out.

At any rate, I would certainly have asked the question if I were not too worried about being call names. So, the blame lies on both sides.

Now, let us move on.

Cyril
06-28-2009, 09:01 AM
Avery,

We all have one picture that does not do us justice. I think that picture of yours perhaps falls into that category.

In your avtar, you look very beautiful; perhaps one of the most beautiful ones on this site. I guess that could have been the reason why I could not link you to that picture in my mind.

Please accept my sincere apology.

Kind Regards,
- Cyril

Hopper
06-28-2009, 09:50 AM
How the hell could he not figure out that was a pic of Avery? I certainly hadn't seen it posted, but from Earls post figured it out. Sorry, but should she swap and call him an idiot instead of an asshole? After all he should be able to pick his prefered insult (& you should too)... does he want to admit that he was being an ass or play stupid and be called an idiot. >:(

I'll tell you how not: her name wasn't on the photo and I've never seen her before. You must think I live here. Mediocrity (and JayATee) already called Cyril an idiot - she called herself an asshole when she explained why. We don't deserve either insult.

It didn't occur to me that the girl was the one whose post Earl quoted and that he was actually talking about her. I just thought that he was using an example of a pictire of any hot girl with small tits to make his point. Doesn't make me an idiot.

mediocrity
06-28-2009, 10:06 AM
I'll tell you how not: her name wasn't on the photo and I've never seen her before. You must think I live here. Mediocrity (and JayATee) already called Cyril an idiot - she called herself an asshole when she explained why. We don't deserve either insult.

You know what? I am a total asshole. Nine times out of ten, I am too intellgient for the debate ( as well as Kylea, and JayATee and Crow2, Gia, respectively etc) and resort to hostility over the argument at hand due to passion. And you know what? Cyril IS a goddamn idiot. Read his posts. Seriously. Then deduce your own conclusions. And if you don't come to the conclusion that he is AT LEAST a troll; well, you've got compehension issues.

And by the way Cyril, you make me absolutely sick.

Hopper
06-28-2009, 10:13 AM
^Passion's not the word I'd use. Intelligent either. What was so intelligent about calling Cyril an idiot for the reasons you did? I do read Cyril's posts and none of the ones I've read indicated idiocy. You, on the other hand, I'd say nine times out of ten in the last week. At least a troll, with comprehension problems.

What is it with you about Cyril? Are you really just an asshole?

Cyril
06-28-2009, 10:16 AM
I'll tell you how not: her name wasn't on the photo and I've never seen her before. You must think I live here. Mediocrity (and JayATee) already called Cyril an idiot - she called herself an asshole when she explained why. We don't deserve either insult.

It didn't occur to me that the girl was the one whose post Earl quoted and that he was actually talking about her. I just thought that he was using an example of a pictire of any hot girl with small tits to make his point. Doesn't make me an idiot.

It did not occur to me either that the picture was actual picture of someone on the forum. This kind of mistake can happen.

I think the fault lies on Mediocrity to put an undue pressure on me in the first place. If she had not gotten on my case regarding Wendy Hamilton, I would have certainly asked the question and that would have avoided this drama.

Hopper
06-28-2009, 10:25 AM
^It gets better. Either of those mistakes were just that - mistakes. The only reason not to post a comment is if you think there's something wrong with it, not if someone else does.

Cyril
06-28-2009, 10:27 AM
^Passion's not the word I'd use. Intelligent either. What was so intelligent about calling Cyril an idiot for the reasons you did? I do read Cyril's posts and none of the ones I've read indicated idiocy. You, on the other hand, I'd say nine times out of ten in the last week. At least a troll, with comprehension problems.

What is it with you about Cyril? Are you really just an asshole?

I think it is best to just ignore her. She is not worth the response. Save your energy for worthy posters. :)

Cyril
06-28-2009, 10:31 AM
^It gets better. Either of those mistakes were just that - mistakes. The only reason not to post a comment is if you think there's something wrong with it, not if someone else does.

I agree. That is how a logical person would have approached this issue. But you cannot expect that kind of clarity from her. I have given up on her a while back.

vmurphy252
06-28-2009, 10:31 AM
Nine times out of ten, I am too intellgient for the debate ( as well as Kylea, and JayATee and Crow2, Gia, respectively etc)

Dancer or not, I resent not being included in this list...}:D

Cyril
06-28-2009, 10:33 AM
Dancer or not, I resent not being included in this list...}:D

You are just a side kick. 8)

vmurphy252
06-28-2009, 10:37 AM
^Cyril makes a legitimate funny!

Cyril
06-28-2009, 10:45 AM
^Cyril makes a legitimate funny!

..... and I was not even trying to be. It is your reality my friend that is funny. :D

vmurphy252
06-28-2009, 12:05 PM
It either laugh or cry...

JayATee
06-28-2009, 12:13 PM
^How do you know Cyril does read posts consistently? He's been here for less time than me and I've never seen that picture. I don't recall ever even seeing a post by Avery. I don't know where Earl got the pic. He's been here six months longer than me and who says we read all the same threads?

Mediocrity implied that Cyril probably does know then she said if he does he's a prick, so that's virtually saying he is a prick. And you just did the same when you called him an idiot.

When I posted a pic of a nude girl in another thread Cyril asked if she was a stripper on this site, so obviously he doesn't know all the girls here. Ironically he got in trouble from mediocrity for asking that too. (That was when she trolled him.)

And - it's "then", not "than", unless you're typing with your NY accent.

You apparently have serious reading comprehension issues as well so I don't think you're in a position to start commenting on my grammar.

princessjas
06-28-2009, 12:15 PM
You apparently have serious reading comprehension issues as well so I don't think you're in a position to start commenting on my grammar.

Agreed!! If he was unable to determine from reading Earl's post that there was at least a chance that the pic was of Avery, then he really does need a reading comprehension class. Even Cyril admitted that on the re-read he realized that the post made it obvious that the pic was of her.

Cyril
06-28-2009, 12:39 PM
You apparently have serious reading comprehension issues as well so I don't think you're in a position to start commenting on my grammar.

Hopper was correct. You should have spelled it "then" not "than" given the context.

Cyril
06-28-2009, 12:51 PM
Agreed!! If he was unable to determine from reading Earl's post that there was at least a chance that the pic was of Avery, then he really does need a reading comprehension class. Even Cyril admitted that on the re-read he realized that the post made it obvious that the pic was of her.

Hopper is absolutely correct. There was no apparent relation between that picture and Earl's post. However, I could have taken some guess, which I did not. The reason I did not take a guess was because I was called names in past for taking a guess. Please read the links provided by Hopper.

Upon rereading the post, I did realize that I could have taken some guesses that the picture was of Avery. But, hindsight is twenty-twenty, they say.

The important thing to remember is, it was a mistake and Hopper and I acknowledged it as such. The cruel remarks directed towards me were unwarranted.

princessjas
06-28-2009, 12:57 PM
Hopper is absolutely correct. There was no apparent relation between that picture and Earl's post. However, I could have taken some guess, which I did not. The reason I did not take a guess was because I was called names in past for taking a guess. Please read the links provided by Hopper.

Upon rereading the post, I did realize that I could have taken some guesses that the picture was of Avery. But, hindsight is twenty-twenty, they say.

The important thing to remember is, it was a mistake and Hopper and I acknowledged it as such. The cruel remarks directed towards me were unwarranted.

Possibly, since if it was a mistake. However, your comment was undeniably cruel. You may not have realized that the girl in the picture was going to read your post, but as they say..."You reap what you sow" Drop cruel if thoughtless comments and you will recieve cruelty back. It is the way of the universe. ;)

BTW - This post isn't meant to be chiding or sarcastic. This is truly what I believe. Those who are kind, always seem to find kindness in return, and the opposite is often true as well. This has been my experience in life.

vmurphy252
06-28-2009, 01:00 PM
Anyone else ready for this thread to go bye-bye?

JayATee
06-28-2009, 01:00 PM
Hopper was correct. You should have spelled it "then" not "than" given the context.

An irrelevant point made about another irrelevant point, none of which excuses any of the behavior that the original posts were talking about. Neither of you are in a position to comment on my spelling or grammar so STFU. You both have basic reading comprehension issues so worry about your own selves. If you went back and re-read the post and understood her to be a dancer and poster here it stands to reason that if you'd bothered to take the time to read and understand (this is where reading comprehension comes into play) the post the first time none of this conversation would be happening and Avery would've been spared an insult. Which by the way, is the fucking point in case anyone missed it again.

Besides that, mediocrity said IF, IF you knew she was a poster THEN you were a prick. If you didn't you didn't. Learn to read and further confusion like this will be avoided.

+1 for shutting this trainwreck down.

Cyril
06-28-2009, 01:03 PM
Possibly, since if it was a mistake. However, your comment was undeniably cruel. You may not have realized that the girl in the picture was going to read your post, but as they say..."You reap what you sow" Drop cruel if thoughless comments and you will recieve cruelty back. It is the way of the universe. ;)

BTW - This post isn't meant to be chiding or sarcastic. This is truly what I believe. Those who are kind, always seem to find kindness in return, and the opposite is often true as well. This has been my experience in life.

Fair enough. You are absolutely right. I usually use the phrase like "She is not my type". I do not know why I ended up using that phrase.

Excuse: I had a case of insomnia so I decided to get on the stripper web and start reading and responding.

Cyril
06-28-2009, 01:08 PM
An irrelevant point made about another irrelevant point, none of which excuses any of the behavior that the original posts were talking about. Neither of you are in a position to comment on my spelling or grammar so STFU. You both have basic reading comprehension issues so worry about your own selves. If you went back and re-read the post and understood her to be a dancer and poster here it stands to reason that if you'd bothered to take the time to read and understand (this is where reading comprehension comes into play) the post the first time none of this conversation would be happening and Avery would've been spared an insult. Which by the way, is the fucking point in case anyone missed it again.

Besides that, mediocrity said IF, IF you knew she was a poster THEN you were a prick. If you didn't you didn't. Learn to read and further confusion like this will be avoided.

+1 for shutting this trainwreck down.

I never comment on others grammar and spelling. I was just merely pointing out that Hopper was correct. He is correct and you are wrong.

JayATee
06-28-2009, 01:11 PM
^Missed the rest of the post entirely did you? Good for you. Got right on fixing that reading comprehension problem.

Someone close this down please.

Cyril
06-28-2009, 01:16 PM
^Missed the rest of the post entirely did you? Good for you. Got right on fixing that reading comprehension problem.

Someone close this down please.

Girl,

I already acknowledged that it was a mistake on my part. What part of that do you not understand?

Mistake and comprehension are not the same issues. OK?

It was an honest mistake. I have already asked Avery for her forgiveness. That is all a man can do.

Elvia
06-28-2009, 01:20 PM
WTF is Cyril still here?

vmurphy252
06-28-2009, 01:22 PM
My last post in this thread: anyone that wants it closed down just stop posting regardless of what anyone else posts...

Gia2608
06-28-2009, 01:49 PM
The age of consent varies by state and country. In Rhode Island it is 16.
It ranges in the world from none to 20. The most popular number is 16.

It was 12 in the 1800's.
"A statutory age of consent to sexual intercourse for the purposes of the criminal law in the United Kingdom can be found as early as 1275. It was originally 12, was raised to 13 in 1875 and to 16 in 1885."
"In Canada, the age of consent was raised from 14 to 16 on 1 May 2008 (in 1890 it was raised from 12 to 14)."
http://www.ageofconsent.com/ageofconsent.htm

Yes 16 not 14. There is a very big difference between 14 and 16.

Maybe it's Ok for an 18 yr. old to date a 16 yr. old but if some 30 yr. old tried to go out with my younger sister.... I'd castrate him.

In case you didn't know you live in the United States and it is 2007. So any laws from the 1800's ARE IRRELEVANT

In the 1800's heroin and cocaine were also legal.

And so then, it's Ok to have sex with a six year old in some other country because it is leagl there?

Elvia
06-28-2009, 01:52 PM
^^^ This conversation has seriously left me more disgusted by the men in this forum than anything else. Men who try to defend grown men's desire to fuck high school girls are seriously shady and fucking disgusting.

Who the hell cares what the laws were in the 1800's? How is that relevant? Because the Victorians were oh so enlightened?

xdamage
06-28-2009, 03:09 PM
^^^ This conversation has seriously left me more disgusted by the men in this forum than anything else. Men who try to defend grown men's desire to fuck high school girls are seriously shady and fucking disgusting.

It is disturbing for sure, though I don't recall if you were on the boards when there were some lengthy discussions about the popularity of the schoolgirl SC-garb. If it was up to me one that I wouldn't approve of if I owned the club as I find it disturbing to encourage, and as the owner of the club, I'd think it wrong of me to profit from what I don't believe in. However not everyone agrees, and both men and women said they thought it was harmless as long as it remained fantasy only.

It's extremely doubtful another round of it will result in a different outcome. Some are extremely disturbed by it. Some are but not so much they wouldn't willing profit from it. Others think it is entirely harmless.

The same can be said of many other common fantasy matters like S&M which for some people raises incredibly strong negative emotions.

I try to just understand people as they are, and have long ago accepted that people do have all kinds of twisted things going on, sometimes deeply hidden, sometimes uncontrolled, but chances are everyone has something going on in their heads that someone else would find deeply disgusting.

Earl_the_Pearl
06-28-2009, 03:31 PM
^^^ This conversation has seriously left me more disgusted by the men in this forum than anything else. Men who try to defend grown men's desire to fuck high school girls are seriously shady and fucking disgusting.

Who the hell cares what the laws were in the 1800's? How is that relevant? Because the Victorians were oh so enlightened?
I am not expressing an opinion I am stating facts and history. I find it more disturbing that some would want to deny the facts and revise history. That is a truly dangerous thing.