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JayATee
06-25-2009, 07:08 PM
^I hope that as the years pass he will be remembered for the music and not the insanity of the past decade or so.

Oksana23
06-25-2009, 07:28 PM
wow I found out he died via text message earlier today, it reminded me of how i felt when I learned that NYC had been attacted by terrorist back on 9-11, just complete shock and disbelief. Shocking how fast people jumped on ebay to sell their michael memorabilia, including one item listed at $150,000! As soon as the person dies the value of such items skyrocket. I wonder whatever happened to the michael jackson doll my babysitter gave me back in the day...i wouldn't sell it though.

PleasureVictim
06-26-2009, 02:39 AM
R.I.P

From since he was little he probably had very little peace. I hope he can finally enjoy it now. You will be missed MJ.

The family lawyer was on Nancy Grace saying if the news comes out that his death was from prescription drugs, he will out the culprit. Another site said he suffered from anorexia. I didn't know that if it is true.

short skirts
06-26-2009, 03:07 AM
How many remember moonwalking at the sound of a certain beat
The white glove
The tragic Pepsi commercial
His music influenced me since 1983
What a shame of a loss to us all

JayATee
06-26-2009, 01:01 PM
R.I.P

From since he was little he probably had very little peace. I hope he can finally enjoy it now. You will be missed MJ.

The family lawyer was on Nancy Grace saying if the news comes out that his death was from prescription drugs, he will out the culprit. Another site said he suffered from anorexia. I didn't know that if it is true.

I just read that they're looking to question the dr that was with him yesterday. I get the feeling this about to get really ugly.

But at least he finally won't have to deal with any more scandal.

Earl_the_Pearl
06-26-2009, 03:39 PM
I just read that they're looking to question the dr that was with him yesterday. I get the feeling this about to get really ugly.

But at least he finally won't have to deal with any more scandal.
"A police spokesman confirmed they want to interview the singer’s personal doctor who was present when the singer stopped breathing at his home in the exclusive Holmby Hills area of the city."

The autopsy was just completed and they said they have wait for the test results.

krchab99
06-26-2009, 03:41 PM
I am sad that he has passed but I am actully very happy for him he led such a tragic life I am glad he is resting now.

Oksana23
06-26-2009, 04:44 PM
we had a moment of silence at my club last night for mj, and the dj played michael for the 1st and last songs of the night. it was so sad :-(

Kyleigh1984
06-26-2009, 06:49 PM
I'm still in shock :( RIP Michael Jackson

crazybeautiful28
06-29-2009, 08:45 PM
This is the first celebrity death that has affected me this profoundly. I was saddened by news of Heath Ledgers death because he was so talented, his death was so sudden, and he literally had just begun his career, HOWEVER, I grew up listening to Michael. He has been, and always will be my favorite artist hands down. The amount of respect I have for him as an artist, an entertainer, producer, writer, dancer, etc... is unmatched to any other performer I can think of in this day. He too was young, and although past his prime, I still remember him as the Thriller. The man was a genius, no arguing about it, and his death truly is a tremendous loss.

threlayer
06-29-2009, 09:36 PM
I know people are upset by this. His life hardly affected me at all, though I am sorry about his death. They say his dancing was incredible. I've heard some of his songs and I can hardly understand a word of it. Further it is not my type of music. But I know that many people enjoyed his performances.

That being said : the man weighed 112 lbs when he died; he was heavily into painkiller pills; for years he was obsessed with his facial features and underwent MANY surgeries to make him into what he was never able to be; how and why he turned himself white will never be understood; his actions on the amusement park/ranch with those kids (innocent it may have been) was just way out of line with any reasonableness; his narcissism and self-absorbtion was, well, a bit insane. In short the man was very very troubled and his 'associates' were, for the most part, sychophants who fed on his insanity. In my opinion they hardly cared for him; they just did what he asked probably almost without questions. It was a sick relationship to say the least.

I'm sorry his life went this way and died, but looking back on all this, it was fairly predictable to me. Maybe we can learn somethinig useful from his life. Be yourself; be realistic; know who your friends really are; find a way to get grounded regularly; consider advice from those who have different opinions about aspects of your life.

scr333x
06-30-2009, 08:21 AM
It's heartbreaking that he's a joke to so many people...I'm usually not one to empathize with celebrities or anything. Putting his personal life aside, I'm going to remember Michael for his talent. He'll definatley be up in the likes of Marilyn Monroe and Elvis. If you listen to his song "Childhood" it explains a lot about why he was the way he was. Human behavior is so complex, I'm no doctor, but if you look at Michael's upbringing, it explains a lot. Vitiligo is a horrible disease and it's sad that he was ostracized because of ignorance..But bad plastic surgery is what it is. Like I said I'm usually not one to really empathize with celebrities, but no one deserves all that hate. There's no going around how troubled he was, but I really wish he could see how loved he was, all over the news. It's a straight out sad situation, and his death was, predictable. It wasn't a matter of how but when. When I heard he went into cardiac arrest that was my first thought was about his perscription addiction and the news now is only confirming it..

jennahoff
06-30-2009, 10:02 AM
its crazy now about the dr and all the speculation about what exactly happened before MJ was taken to the hospital. Not sure whats true and whats fabricated but Ive been reading that his dr. tried to perform CPR on MJ before the paramedics were even called.
And when the paramedics got there MJ was still on his bed. Well...wouldnt the dr. have put him on the floor to do CPR and not a bed??? And why did he wait so long to call the paramedics?
Just alot of speculation going around right now.
Its crazy.

Gia2608
06-30-2009, 11:10 AM
Is Vitiligo that disease where you lose pigmentation?? I do beleive he had that disease for sure because I doubt any of those creams that are meant to lighten (bleach the skin) would make someone turn WHITE like that. Plus, I saw the cover of one of his albums (Bad maybe) and even the palm of his hand was whiter than mine! Most black people I know that are darker skinned have more of a pinkish color to the palms of their hands and bottoms of their feet. Do you think he bleached those too?

scr333x
06-30-2009, 07:54 PM
Yea, he was diagnosed in 86, so for the whole "Bad" era, later at least, i'm pretty sure that was all makeup. With vitiligo, I only know one person who has it, but the skin is blotchy. So I'm pretty sure he just bleached everything after a while, which i can't fault him for, I couldn't go through putting on all that makeup everyday.

The doctor is just shady..As far as I know Michael was on Demerol, which is 10x stronger than morphine and illegal in most places because it is HIGHLY advised against. He had an addiction for the last 25 years of his life - it wasn't a matter of how he was going to die, only when. With all that public ridicule I can't say I'd stay sober. This is just my personal theory, but Dr Murray probably injected him with too much demerol, realized he fucked up, and then tried to jack him with adrenaline. Panicked, loaded more drugs into him, and waited to call the police because he was in denial. After arriving the paramedics said Michael was dead but the doctor wanted him to go to the hospital, that's fact. There wasn't any hope of saving Michael even by the time the paramedics were there - he would've been brain dead after maybe 10 minutes or so even if they could start his heart back up. Had he not waited to call the police, Michael could've been saved. The 911 call was so vague, but the paramedics have to prepare for every situation before they arrive, drug overdoses being one of them. I don't quite understand the second autopsy, but all I can hope for is that Neverland be turned into a museum or something along the lines of that.

Gia2608
07-01-2009, 08:38 PM
There is alot of stuff coming out the last few days, I can't bear to watch it anymore. I feel a little pissed about the situation with his kids. For all of the insance and possibly immoral things he did, one thing about him was that he was always generous to the public and the MEDIA. He would always stop to take photos and say hello to fans and always let to POOParazzi take photos of him. The only thing he asked in return was privacy for his kids. He's not even in the ground yet and there's photos of the kids EVERYWHERE.

Djoser
07-04-2009, 07:38 AM
Thank god I never, ever watch TV, or I'd have thrown it out the window by now. I hear the hysteria is unbelievable. As for me I mourned his loss many, many years ago. I was a fan at one time, and he did have talent.

xdamage
07-05-2009, 10:30 PM
MJ - mixed feelings.

Talent wise ... he left a special mark on the world and I'll never forget it.

His later physical changes in life, and facial expressions, made it clear he was a tortured soul and of course I can't help but feel some pity for him for that.

The stories that he was a pedophile, greatly disturbing and disgusting.

To some degree when anyone who lives a big life dies, I have some tendency to internalize it and make it about me, a reminder of my own mortality.

So... yea... just a huge jumble of mixed feelings about the news.

gypsy_girlchild
07-05-2009, 10:44 PM
ummm.. I don't think it's worth THIS much.. wow


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threlayer
07-06-2009, 01:09 PM
Media coverage is worse than during the OJ trial. (soo tired of it)

WiseGuy_TX
07-07-2009, 04:49 AM
...soon enough, the family will be scrambling to restore Neverland to its former glory in order to create a memorial cash cow similar to Graceland.

vmurphy252
07-07-2009, 08:35 AM
Not trying to be a dick, but WHY IS CNN COVERING THIS ALL DAY?!?!?!?!?!?

bem401
07-07-2009, 09:41 AM
Watching this nonsense online right now. With the helicopter coverage of the motorcade, its like OJ all over again. Black supersatar becomes too white ( not necessarily in the literal sense ), is shunned by the African American community, then commits (or is suspected of commiting) an atrocity, thus becoming a pariah in the eyes of white people, if not all people. In the end, black leaders, like the not very reverends Sharpton and Jackson, lionize him as a great black person.

While there is no disputing his talent and impact on the world, let's face it. There is good reason to believe he was a drug-addicted pedophile whose career died two decades ago. Personally I don't think he was ever better than he was as a member of the Jackson 5.

vmurphy252
07-07-2009, 09:51 AM
Well, that's the really bad part. I'm complaining about it being broadcast ALL DAY, but guess what's on my TV?

JayATee
07-07-2009, 05:43 PM
^ I think it's beyond ridiculous at this point. The president didn't die. I doubt they would even be making THIS big a deal over it. It's time to move on.

vmurphy252
07-07-2009, 05:44 PM
And they keep repeating the clip of his daughter. Why did they even let her speak up there? They should have left her alone...

JayATee
07-07-2009, 05:46 PM
Sometimes it is good for the grieving process. At the same time, to be exposed to all this after never having been exposed before is a bit harsh. He was so careful to keep his kids away from the media that I think they're going to be scarred from this circus.

vmurphy252
07-07-2009, 05:47 PM
I'm not talking about her speaking to family/friends. I'm talking about her being put in a spotlight to speak to 20,000 people in the immediate vicinity and countless millions total. Not a decision I would make for a niece or nephew.

JayATee
07-07-2009, 05:48 PM
^thats what I was talking about too...

xdamage
07-07-2009, 05:50 PM
^ I think it's beyond ridiculous at this point. The president didn't die. I doubt they would even be making THIS big a deal over it. It's time to move on.

Seriously. I guess this is us people. We are ?idiots? that like to be entertained and have no sense of what is important... yea ... it is indeed beyond ridiculous.

vmurphy252
07-07-2009, 05:51 PM
Yeah, as always, saying the same thing different ways.

Bob_Loblaw
07-07-2009, 05:52 PM
Paris herself likely felt compelled to do so. If it's something she wanted to do, I don't know how her family could tell her no.

vmurphy252
07-07-2009, 05:56 PM
That did occur to me. I guess I also can't put myself in the mindframe of the child of a mega superstar. I guess, at the very least, the media does not need to constantly replay the clip. Just my opinion though.

Bob_Loblaw
07-07-2009, 06:15 PM
^^^ I do worry about the kids and all the exposure they've received. Especially Paris now after her tearful goodbye. From the media's and consuming public's standpoint, I understand why they've chosen to highlight her. Her choking back tears while speaking was leaps and bounds the most emotional and memorable moment of the entire memorial.

I do agree that the media has gone over the top with the wall to wall coverage since June 25. As much as some have complained about how much play this has gotten, there's no denying the tremendous interest as news outlets have seen surges in their ratings. Is the media catering to the demands of the public? Or is the media helping to create the demand? Chicken or egg? It's hard to say.

krchab99
07-07-2009, 06:24 PM
I mite be alone in this but i have to say i thought paris speeking was beutiful and approiate. it did not seemed forced to me it came from her heart if anything it appeared that her family did not want her to speek they seemed nervous and huddled around her with support. she is 11 not 5 all she wanted to do was tell the world she loved her dad i am sure he is very proud of her.

vmurphy252
07-07-2009, 06:28 PM
^To be clear, I was not talking about what she said or how she feels at all. It is the situation in which she said it, and what will be the aftermath with the media.

Bob_Loblaw
07-07-2009, 06:31 PM
No krchab. I do think it was wonderful that Paris did speak. Years later, if I have one memory of this day, it'll be of Paris. Dammit, I'm not afraid to say I shed a tear on three separate occasions today as a result of seeing her anguish.

All we're talking about is how the media is intensely spotlighting her may not be in the best interests of a child. The paparazzi are like vultures and are unforgiving.

bem401
07-08-2009, 10:28 AM
Didn't they announce janet was going to speak and instead the kid took the mike? Or was I hearing things?

Regardless, all the parasites were there: Sharpton, Jesse Jackass, and Sheila Jackson-Lee.

Djoser
07-09-2009, 04:54 PM
Jesus Christ himself didn't get anywhere near this much attention. It's beyond absurd at this point.

Plus everyone is falling all over themselves to say he wasn't weird at all, and couldn't possibly have done anything wrong by sleeping with little boys (even though anyone else in the world would have been crucified for it).

Sorry, he was one weird dude, and I wouldn't let him anywhere near my kids, whatever did or didn't happen in his bed with all those little boys.

I might already have lost one friend by saying so, which is about the dumbest reason to lose a friend ever--over a goddamned celebrity...

Gia2608
07-09-2009, 05:05 PM
Regardless, all the parasites were there: Sharpton, Jesse Jackass, and Sheila Jackson-Lee.


I love you.

eagle2
07-09-2009, 08:59 PM
I'm happy to see the daughter in public without a mask or veil over her head. I always felt bad for his children for having to wear masks or veils whenever they went out in public.

vmurphy252
07-09-2009, 09:18 PM
I love you.
You ARE passing the love bucket around, aren't you? }:D

Cyril
07-09-2009, 09:21 PM
Jesus Christ himself didn't get anywhere near this much attention. It's beyond absurd at this point.



That is why you have to come to Cyril' world once in a while, a world where there is no TV or as I call it an idiot box. :)

vmurphy252
07-09-2009, 09:25 PM
^Where did you get the term "idiot box"? One of my favorite authors refers to TV that way in several novels.

hot4ablackchick
07-09-2009, 10:16 PM
I'm glad all the coverage is dying down. It definetely did not surprise me about all the media though. I love MJ, and I hope his children are ok. I think that it was great that Paris spoke out, because it reminded everyone that whether or not you thought he was a nutcase weirdo, that he was a father and that he was loved. That was her Daddy and now he is gone.

Anywho, it was a shame that a man with all the talent in the world died the way he did. At the young age of 50. Vey few artists have, or will ever acheive the success that MJ did. Love him or hate him, he was an innovator. His dance moves alone, can be replicated but NOBODY will dance like he did. He broke racial barriers, won a ton of awards, and was hounded by the media. He let it drive him to insanity. Too bad he died a drug addicted, seemingly crazy, wrecked man who had way too many plastic surgery procedures.

Djoser
07-09-2009, 11:06 PM
Oh I didn't see a bit of the MJ hysteria on TV, it was more than enough just hearing about it from everyone all the time, endlessly, on and on. If I'd had a TV on, I would have thrown it out the window a week ago I'm sure. I never watch it, except very rarely a movie or history channel show. TV is evil...

JayATee
07-09-2009, 11:25 PM
Oh I didn't see a bit of the MJ hysteria on TV, it was more than enough just hearing about it from everyone all the time, endlessly, on and on. If I'd had a TV on, I would have thrown it out the window a week ago I'm sure. I never watch it, except very rarely a movie or history channel show. TV is evil...

+1!!!