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JRdancer
07-02-2009, 12:41 AM
Look, a real seducer (and I'm not talking about a great guy, but a guy whose goal it is to seduce the dancer like the title of the book) hits all the right buttons. Sexual. Financial. Emotional/conversational. "I respect you too much" may be a button, but I don't think it can hold its own against making someone feel like you really have chemistry. But like a lot of the guys who have spent a lot of money in strip clubs will attest, it rarely works. That's because we are focused on our job and we're focused on giving YOU, the customer, a good time. And also how much our feet hurt.

A guy who says "I'll tip you for your time" out on the floor is risky. I don't know how much he is going to tip me. What if he's lying? What if he thinks $20 an hour is generous? So in the back of my mind I worry a little as we talk. Compare that to a guy who says "Let's go to VIP, I'm going to keep you there all night." Or "Let's go do a bunch of dances." Okay! I can feel a little more relaxed though none of that means you're going to seduce a stripper! Hopefully you end up having a great, entertaining evening. But the point I'm trying to make is that a guy spending in a strip club is using all of the available seductive methods possible versus the one who is just trying to prove, "I'm not your average customer." (yawn)

CherryBomb954
07-02-2009, 01:42 PM
I had a situation last night that reminded me of this post.

I had just walked in, go to the DJ to check in, and he tells me he's putting me up immediately. As I pass a table a guy grabs my attention and tells me he wants a dance. I tell him after I get off stage I'd be right there.

I come back and a song had just started, so I slide myslef into his lap and say "You ready to play??" He says, no not yet, he wants to sit and talk for a minute. I agreed to sit for one song, telling myself to not let the conversation get too involved and keep it focused on the sale. He immediately delves deep....."where are you from", "what do your tattoos mean", "how old are you".....annoying but I actually did a GREAT job of keeping the conversation focused on the dance. SO next song comes, I dance one for him, try to sell another and he says he wants to talk again. I tell him in his ear say that I really wanted to dance again, I was having such a great sexy time......He obliges, but starts talking anyway as I am dancing. First, he asks if I have a boyfriend....I duck the question with a cute line. Next, he starts asking about the tattoos again, I tell him that I'd like to finish my dance and we can talk about the tattoos some other time. BAD IDEA. Immediately he comes back with "OK then, how about I take you out to dinner??" AGAIN I duck the question with a cute line. I had already decided that I wasn't gonna dance for him again, and after I finished the dance I was gonna move on.

Homeboy then FREAKS and says "WHAT the fuck??? Are you playing me or something? Get off my lap! Beat it!" Takes me by my hips and literally throws me off his lap.

Of course in my club I can't tell a bouncer cause they'd just laugh at me, so I was left to deal on my own. I basically told him that his bullshit was UNACCEPTABLE and rude. I told him that I had done nothing wrong, all I wanted to do was finish my dance and the shit he pulled was NOT cool.

He backed down immediately and apoligized. Hands me $15 and says "I'm, sorry, I just started to like you too much. I couldn't stand you dancing for me anymore"

Now I still can't decide if this guy is

A. The guy who has read one of those articles and is failing miserably at the task at hand....
B. Really did have some kind of emotional issues
C. Just being drunk and stupid (I don't think they were drinking too much though)

??

Later on I saw him getting escorted out. He must have done something really fucked up cause it takes ALOT to get asked to leave from my club. I mean you practically have to kill someone.

JayATee
07-02-2009, 01:59 PM
Cherry, Im gonna have to say he's just a clueless moron. It's possible he's trying to learn how play the game and failed miserably but mostly I think he's just an idiot.

hockeybobby
07-02-2009, 02:02 PM
You squeezed fifteen bucks out of a stone right there. You have serious stripper skillz. :-)

mediocrity
07-02-2009, 02:25 PM
Cherry, Im gonna have to say he's just a clueless moron. It's possible he's trying to learn how play the game and failed miserably but mostly I think he's just an idiot.

Agreed. What a moron. Sounds like he has no tact and is totally socially inept.

jack0177057
07-02-2009, 02:50 PM
He obliges, but starts talking anyway as I am dancing. First, he asks if I have a boyfriend....I duck the question with a cute line. Next, he starts asking about the tattoos again, I tell him that I'd like to finish my dance and we can talk about the tattoos some other time. BAD IDEA. Immediately he comes back with "OK then, how about I take you out to dinner??" AGAIN I duck the question with a cute line. I had already decided that I wasn't gonna dance for him again, and after I finished the dance I was gonna move on.

Homeboy then FREAKS and says "WHAT the fuck??? Are you playing me or something? Get off my lap! Beat it!" Takes me by my hips and literally throws me off his lap.

This is just a theory (because I don't know everything),.. he could have been a lonely guy who has never been in a SC before and was overwhelmed by the experience.

One of my best ever SC GFE experiences could have turned out like this (but, without the mean and physical part), because I was a newbie and the dancer was absolutely amazing at providing a virtual GFE... Fortunately, she told me before hand that she was married and loved her husband, and that, in the SC, she was only providing "fantasies"... This little speech kept me from falling in love with her during the most intensely sensual and "tender" (i.e., eye-gazing, soft kissing in face and lips, slow grinding, near-climaxing) lap dances I've ever had... Without the "fantasy" speech, I would have developed a crush on this dancer, and then, felt "played" because she did not reciprocate... But, her "fantasy" speech averted this disaster.

They should have an "orientation" day for SC virgins before their first visit. The dancers could explain that the flirting is part of their job and neither means they like you, nor that they are "playing" you,... but that their job consists of providing a fantasy to you, the customer...

Earl_the_Pearl
07-02-2009, 05:26 PM
They should have an "orientation" day for SC virgins before their first visit. The dancers could explain that the flirting is part of their job and neither means they like you, nor that they are "playing" you,... but that their job consists of providing a fantasy to you, the customer...
Most dancers are not that upfront and play on a PL falling in love. That is how they bank big time.

gameover
07-02-2009, 05:45 PM
You're a customer regardless. Why the fear of being a customer? This is bull and has already been disproved by dancers . You wanna shot? You better shell out some $$$. Otherwise forget it.

If I had to shell out some $$$ to date a dancer, that wouldn't be a dancer I'd want to date. And, if I WAS paying to "date" a dancer, would that be the same as getting a hooker, on some level?

JayATee
07-02-2009, 06:06 PM
^You're not paying to date the dancer. That's not dating. That's escorting. ::)

Earl_the_Pearl
07-02-2009, 06:30 PM
^You're not paying to date the dancer. That's not dating. That's escorting. ::)
It is "dating" as when a women on a corner yells, "Wann'a date".

gameover
07-02-2009, 06:41 PM
^You're not paying to date the dancer. That's not dating. That's escorting. ::)

But you had just said, "You wanna shot? Shell out some $$$$".

mediocrity
07-02-2009, 07:15 PM
But you had just said, "You wanna shot? Shell out some $$$$".

Some applicable math:

Dancer + Cute Customer + VIP = Time to get to know eachother, but she is still at work, and Cute Customer aware of this and assuring she won't go home broke.

Hell, even Dancer + Cute Customer + A handful of dances = The same equation.

Dancer + Customer (cute or not) + No Money + Too Chatty = Unhappy girl who went to work for nothing.

This negates your ability to date her because a) She will be upset that she wasted her time when she could have been working and b) She will think you are a cheap bastard, who, even if it was a proper date, would likely take her to Pizza Hut.

Fact of the matter is, I wouldn't walk up to a bartender who I thought was attractive, take up all their time with small talk, ask for free drinks, and then not tip them.

Same as I wouldn't go to my SO's office and just sit there are stare at him at his coworkers and interrupt them all day so he couldn't get his work done.

Black and white: The club is my office. When you don't buy and chat chat chat, it's like me clocking out for the hour. But if I DO like you, I like you to tip, buy VIP or like I said even a handful of dances, so I can relax and not worry about having to make that hour up. Hey, for three or four dances, I'll chill with you for 2 songs or so afterwards. Just don't make me clock out of my job to do personal time when it's business hours.

vmurphy252
07-02-2009, 07:21 PM
Some applicable math:

Dancer + Cute Customer + VIP = Time to get to know eachother, but she is still at work, and Cute Customer aware of this and assuring she won't go home broke.

Hell, even Dancer + Cute Customer + A handful of dances = The same equation.

Dancer + Customer (cute or not) + No Money + Too Chatty = Unhappy girl who went to work for nothing.

This negates your ability to date her because a) She will be upset that she wasted her time when she could have been working and b) She will think you are a cheap bastard, who, even if it was a proper date, would likely take her to Pizza Hut.

Fact of the matter is, I wouldn't walk up to a bartender who I thought was attractive, take up all their time with small talk, ask for free drinks, and then not tip them.

Same as I wouldn't go to my SO's office and just sit there are stare at him at his coworkers and interrupt them all day so he couldn't get his work done.

Black and white: The club is my office. When you don't buy and chat chat chat, it's like me clocking out for the hour. But if I DO like you, I like you to tip, buy VIP or like I said even a handful of dances, so I can relax and not worry about having to make that hour up. Hey, for three or four dances, I'll chill with you for 2 songs or so afterwards. Just don't make me clock out of my job to do personal time when it's business hours.
Expanding on this point and Jay's, when you are ITC you need to pay for the time you spend with the girl. If, because of that time you spend with them that you are paying for, they become personally interested in you, and that leads to OTC dating, that is NOT the same as paying $$ for a date as you would an escort. The ITC and OTC are completely separate events. At least I think that was somewhere near what they were saying, and it's my take on it anyway.

JayATee
07-02-2009, 07:22 PM
^ What they said. ;)

Earl_the_Pearl
07-02-2009, 07:26 PM
If time is so valuable why do dancers spend hours hiding in the dressing room?

vmurphy252
07-02-2009, 07:28 PM
^Because they are bad hustlers?

mediocrity
07-02-2009, 07:28 PM
If time is so valuable why do dancers spend hours hiding in the dressing room?

Bad technique or unmotivated.

Cyril
07-02-2009, 07:39 PM
I can always tell if a girl likes me or not. It is interesting to note that with me the girls that had been interested in me were never flirty. It starts out with the very first eye contact, their face acknowledges the connection and right after that, collection of composure begins; from there on, I can always tell if she continues to like me by the way she talks to me. I have never needed an overt gesture from a girl for the purpose of knowing whether she liked me or not.

Anyhow, that is me, the simple Cyril. :)

vmurphy252
07-02-2009, 07:55 PM
I can always tell if a girl likes me or not. It is interesting to note that with me the girls that had been interested in me were never flirty. It starts out with the very first eye contact, their face acknowledges the connection and right after that, collection of composure begins; from there on, I can always tell if she continues to like me by the way she talks to me. I have never needed an overt gesture from a girl for the purpose of knowing whether she liked me or not.

Anyhow, that is me, the simple Cyril. :)
/:O.....

mediocrity
07-02-2009, 07:55 PM
Hockeybobby might get it.
http://www.hobo-bonobo.co.uk/topten/images/0812071251209.jpg

I'm not being mean. It just came to me.

gameover
07-02-2009, 07:56 PM
Some applicable math:

Dancer + Cute Customer + VIP = Time to get to know eachother, but she is still at work, and Cute Customer aware of this and assuring she won't go home broke.

Hell, even Dancer + Cute Customer + A handful of dances = The same equation.

Dancer + Customer (cute or not) + No Money + Too Chatty = Unhappy girl who went to work for nothing.

This negates your ability to date her because a) She will be upset that she wasted her time when she could have been working and b) She will think you are a cheap bastard, who, even if it was a proper date, would likely take her to Pizza Hut.

Fact of the matter is, I wouldn't walk up to a bartender who I thought was attractive, take up all their time with small talk, ask for free drinks, and then not tip them.

Same as I wouldn't go to my SO's office and just sit there are stare at him at his coworkers and interrupt them all day so he couldn't get his work done.

Black and white: The club is my office. When you don't buy and chat chat chat, it's like me clocking out for the hour. But if I DO like you, I like you to tip, buy VIP or like I said even a handful of dances, so I can relax and not worry about having to make that hour up. Hey, for three or four dances, I'll chill with you for 2 songs or so afterwards. Just don't make me clock out of my job to do personal time when it's business hours.

Well, jealousy issues aside, I think this is why dating a dancer holds no appeal to me. The stripper's single-minded obsession with money is without equal. I think they get so used to using their sex appeal for money, they lose the ability to enjoy spending time with someone without money changing hands.

I think the whole, "you have to have money to have a shot" line is just another hustle from those types of dancers. Don't try to con the poor schleps who would try to pick up a dancer that the "best way" is to spend lots of money on VIP's

So, I stand by my earlier statements that not spending money on the dancer if you are trying to pick one up, is the only reasonable approach, however unlikely it might be to end in success. That also has the side benefit of filtering out those who are just interested in money. And it minimizes their expenses as well.

vmurphy252
07-02-2009, 07:57 PM
^Canadian thing?

mediocrity
07-02-2009, 08:01 PM
Well, jealousy issues aside, I think this is why dating a dancer holds no appeal to me. The stripper's single-minded obsession with money is without equal. I think they get so used to using their sex appeal for money, they lose the ability to enjoy spending time with someone without money changing hands.

I think the whole, "you have to have money to have a shot" line is just another hustle from those types of dancers. Don't try to con the poor schleps who would try to pick up a dancer that the "best way" is to spend lots of money on VIP's

So, I stand by my earlier statements that not spending money on the dancer if you are trying to pick one up, is the only reasonable approach, however unlikely it might be to end in success. That also has the side benefit of filtering out those who are just interested in money. And it minimizes their expenses as well.

I don't understand. So if you wanted to date a waitress, you wouldn't tip her? Why should anyone work for free? My SO doesn't pay me now when we go out obviously. But he understood the first time, that I needed to be compensated for the WORK HOURS I was clocking. Does wanting to be paid for my work make me obsessed with money?

And vmurphy: Yeah, totally.

vmurphy252
07-02-2009, 08:05 PM
Well, jealousy issues aside, I think this is why dating a dancer holds no appeal to me. The stripper's single-minded obsession with money is without equal. I think they get so used to using their sex appeal for money, they lose the ability to enjoy spending time with someone without money changing hands.

I think the whole, "you have to have money to have a shot" line is just another hustle from those types of dancers. Don't try to con the poor schleps who would try to pick up a dancer that the "best way" is to spend lots of money on VIP's

So, I stand by my earlier statements that not spending money on the dancer if you are trying to pick one up, is the only reasonable approach, however unlikely it might be to end in success. That also has the side benefit of filtering out those who are just interested in money. And it minimizes their expenses as well.
Also, I think the scenario we're talking about is when you meet the dancer ITC and are trying to get a date with her from there. If you meet her for the first time in a grocery store, I don't think anyone's saying they expect to be tipped at that point...

JayATee
07-02-2009, 08:07 PM
I think the whole, "you have to have money to have a shot" line is just another hustle from those types of dancers.

I never said you had to have money, I said you needed to spend money ITC to spend any amount of time talking to a dancer.

gameover
07-02-2009, 08:15 PM
I don't understand. So if you wanted to date a waitress, you wouldn't tip her? Why should anyone work for free? My SO doesn't pay me now when we go out obviously. But he understood the first time, that I needed to be compensated for the WORK HOURS I was clocking. Does wanting to be paid for my work make me obsessed with money?

And vmurphy: Yeah, totally.

Because I am tipping a waitress for bringing me a cup of coffe, or a club sandwich.

The interaction with a dancer is different and more complex, because essentially, her service is to provide a sexually-charged fantasy for money. Once a customer moves into that transaction it would seem to make it difficult to transition that fake fantasy relationship into a real one.

Plus the impact of my tip on a cup of coffee is a pretty small portion of the waitress' income. Whereas, a $500 dollar (or whatever) VIP session per week can be significant to a dancer.

lopaw
07-02-2009, 08:17 PM
I can always tell if a girl likes me or not. It is interesting to note that with me the girls that had been interested in me were never flirty. It starts out with the very first eye contact, their face acknowledges the connection and right after that, collection of composure begins; from there on, I can always tell if she continues to like me by the way she talks to me. I have never needed an overt gesture from a girl for the purpose of knowing whether she liked me or not.

Anyhow, that is me, the simple Cyril. :)



"Simple" doesn't even BEGIN to describe it.....

I sometimes need an overt gesture to know that the girl liked our time together - like her having to ask me for the money, rather than me surrendering it up voluntarily. ::)

gameover
07-02-2009, 08:20 PM
I never said you had to have money, I said you needed to spend money ITC to spend any amount of time talking to a dancer.

Well, with some you do, and some you don't. YOU might not spend time talking to a customer if they aren't spending money on you, but believe me, alot of dancers will.

Is that smart of them? Probably not, but just because you might not do this, doesn't mean others won't. There are many dancers who don't put alot of thought into dancing as a job, and aren't very careful with their time.

I've know I've seen that, and personally experienced that as a customer. And, I am sure you can think of many examples of dancers who waste too much time talking to customers who aren't spending.

verfolgung
07-02-2009, 08:28 PM
I can always tell if a girl likes me or not. It is interesting to note that with me the girls that had been interested in me were never flirty. It starts out with the very first eye contact, their face acknowledges the connection and right after that, collection of composure begins; from there on, I can always tell if she continues to like me by the way she talks to me. I have never needed an overt gesture from a girl for the purpose of knowing whether she liked me or not.

Anyhow, that is me, the simple Cyril. :)


Yes, but you are referring to a women you've met out side of a SC, right?
Not talking about ladies who's profession is to flirt, thus when they actually do have a genuine interest will tend to be very overt and clear about their intentions.

JayATee
07-02-2009, 08:28 PM
And just bc a dancer will spend time talking to you without getting paid doesn't mean you're any less of a mark to her or that in the end she still isn't going to try and sell you that dance. You're still a customer to her. That's the point.

Cyril
07-02-2009, 08:32 PM
Yes, but you are referring to a women you've met out side of a SC, right?
Not talking about ladies who's profession is to flirt, thus when they actually do have a genuine interest will tend to be very overt and clear about their intentions.

That is correct. I was talking about women whose paths have crossed with mine. No, I was not talking about strippers because I do not have significant experience with strippers.

I was simply responding to a line of thinking presented by some men that they were confused by flirty women (in this case they were strippers).

gameover
07-02-2009, 08:42 PM
And just bc a dancer will spend time talking to you without getting paid doesn't mean you're any less of a mark to her or that in the end she still isn't going to try and sell you that dance. You're still a customer to her. That's the point.

I know that, and as I said, I don't want or try to pick up dancers. I enjoy the fantasy that is the strip club experience.

But all I am saying is that if a customer is intent on hooking up with a stripper, that he would be better off avoiding any reinforcement of the fantasy relationship. People are people, and when chemistry strikes between two people, it strikes, whether any money has been spent. And by avoiding the VIP's, the customer would be saving money, on what is admittedly, a long shot anyhow. Why throw good money after bad?

mediocrity
07-02-2009, 08:51 PM
Because I am tipping a waitress for bringing me a cup of coffe, or a club sandwich.

The interaction with a dancer is different and more complex, because essentially, her service is to provide a sexually-charged fantasy for money. Once a customer moves into that transaction it would seem to make it difficult to transition that fake fantasy relationship into a real one.

Plus the impact of my tip on a cup of coffee is a pretty small portion of the waitress' income. Whereas, a $500 dollar (or whatever) VIP session per week can be significant to a dancer.

I didn't say, nor did anyone else, that it HAD to be a $500 VIP. I even said myself, a couple of dances would suffice. And I may not be bringing you a cup of coffee or a club sandwich, but I am bringing you dances, seduction and female interaction, which is the point of going to a club to begin with.

It is also usually only once, too. People know when they have chemistry. It's not like if she seriously genuinely liked you that you'd have log X amount of sessions before you could have a date.

Fact of the matter is, it's easier to let the girl pursue you than to pursue her. Just be a gentlman, and make her time with you enjoyable. That truly is the only things that will increase your odds. At least with the best ones.

gameover
07-02-2009, 09:21 PM
I didn't say, nor did anyone else, that it HAD to be a $500 VIP. I even said myself, a couple of dances would suffice. And I may not be bringing you a cup of coffee or a club sandwich, but I am bringing you dances, seduction and female interaction, which is the point of going to a club to begin with.

It is also usually only once, too. People know when they have chemistry. It's not like if she seriously genuinely liked you that you'd have log X amount of sessions before you could have a date.

Fact of the matter is, it's easier to let the girl pursue you than to pursue her. Just be a gentlman, and make her time with you enjoyable. That truly is the only things that will increase your odds. At least with the best ones.

Well, remember, the question is not, how to pick up Mediocrity. The question is how to pick up "a stripper". I'm not saying this approach would work with more intelligent or savvy dancers. Just that it has the best chance if the goal is to pick up a stripper, any stripper. And even at that, I don't think it has a high success rate. But I don't think that a guy who is just trying to pick up a stripper is necessarily trying to find an intelligent or quality girl for a long term relationship. He's probably just looking for sex because he assumes that a stripper would be good at it, or maybe just the thrill of a conquest.

Dirty Ernie
07-02-2009, 09:24 PM
I know that, and as I said, I don't want or try to pick up dancers. I enjoy the fantasy that is the strip club experience.

But all I am saying is that if a customer is intent on hooking up with a stripper, that he would be better off avoiding any reinforcement of the fantasy relationship. People are people, and when chemistry strikes between two people, it strikes, whether any money has been spent. And by avoiding the VIP's, the customer would be saving admittedly, a long shot anyhow. Why throw good money after badmoney, on what is ?

But if he's not spending money, can you call him a customer?



One of the car dealerships in town has a smoking hot saleswoman. Should I drop by every week and take a 30 minute test drive with her so I can get to know her. Sure, her job is to sell cars, but I don't plan on buying one. Who cares if she's at work or misses a customer coming in who actually does want to buy a car. Until she figures it out (and I'm not going to tell her) she has to invest time with me on the chance she might earn something in the future. By then I'll have used all my mad PUA skillz on her and she will fall in lust with me. What a great way to find a GF!::)

mediocrity
07-02-2009, 10:33 PM
^^This gave me many LOLZ. :)

CherryBomb954
07-03-2009, 12:20 AM
Most dancers are not that upfront and play on a PL falling in love. That is how they bank big time.


Mmmmm....not me. I see it happening with alot of other girls but I can't pull it off. The slightest hint of attachment from a customer and I get really uncomfortable....to the point where my hustle dissapears cause I am too weary of the consequences. I don't keep regulars for long. I usually run for the hills when they start to pressure me for dates OTC start hinting at having feelings for me. I have managed to keep one regualr for over a year (which is a long time for me) and he amazingly never asked about my marital status, asked me to go out, or tried to infiltrate my personal life at all.

I have seen the ugly outcome of leading a guy on that genuinely has feelings for a dancer...I never want to be a part of that. No amount of money to me is worth that shit. FUCK that.

Plus, I have a heart. I know what it is like to be lead on then fucked over and PL or not, I just can't do it.

Earl_the_Pearl
07-03-2009, 12:34 AM
Plus, I have a heart. I know what it is like to be lead on then fucked over and PL or not, I just can't do it.
I think I love you. :drool:

Trem
07-03-2009, 01:07 PM
The reason why you have to spend money on a dancer to have a chance is because if you are coming to a strip club with the express purpose of not spending money that just makes you a fucking asshole, its a very simple concept. If some stupid bitch came to my job to waste my fucking time and not pay me i wouldn't give her the time of day either.

mediocrity
07-03-2009, 01:16 PM
The reason why you have to spend money on a dancer to have a chance is because if you are coming to a strip club with the express purpose of not spending money that just makes you a fucking asshole, its a very simple concept. If some stupid bitch came to my job to waste my fucking time and not pay me i wouldn't give her the time of day either.

You are made of win.

MarvelGirl
07-03-2009, 01:23 PM
One of the car dealerships in town has a smoking hot saleswoman. Should I drop by every week and take a 30 minute test drive with her so I can get to know her. Sure, her job is to sell cars, but I don't plan on buying one. Who cares if she's at work or misses a customer coming in who actually does want to buy a car. Until she figures it out (and I'm not going to tell her) she has to invest time with me on the chance she might earn something in the future. By then I'll have used all my mad PUA skillz on her and she will fall in lust with me. What a great way to find a GF!::)

This is perfect. "Hey, I really like you, so fuck you, fuck your job, fuck your bills. I'm going to come to your work and waste your time and prevent you from making a decent income all because I LIKE and RESPECT you so much. I respect you so much I want you to work for free all night so you can see just how much I like you while I'm shitting all over your job."

If anybody reads Ernie's post and still doesn't get it, then they are a fucking moron.

gameover
07-03-2009, 03:03 PM
But if he's not spending money, can you call him a customer?



One of the car dealerships in town has a smoking hot saleswoman. Should I drop by every week and take a 30 minute test drive with her so I can get to know her. Sure, her job is to sell cars, but I don't plan on buying one. Who cares if she's at work or misses a customer coming in who actually does want to buy a car. Until she figures it out (and I'm not going to tell her) she has to invest time with me on the chance she might earn something in the future. By then I'll have used all my mad PUA skillz on her and she will fall in lust with me. What a great way to find a GF!::)


Ok, so your plan, is you buy the car, and then she falls in love with you. Uh, good luck with that :O

Elvia
07-03-2009, 03:32 PM
After reading this thread...I still don't see how anyone can think it's a good idea to come into a strip club and not spend ANYTHING on a dancer. Dancers at my club are ALWAYS bitching about the guy who doesn't tip or spend anything. Nothing sets off a bitch fest in the dressing room faster. The only girls I know who will continually sit with a guy without any money are newbies. And that's just because they don't know how to get money out of him, not because they're impressed, because they still bitch about it after he leaves.

Trem
07-03-2009, 04:14 PM
Ok, so your plan, is you buy the car, and then she falls in love with you. Uh, good luck with that :O

No the plan is to not go to peoples fucking jobs to try to get laid asshole.

JayATee
07-03-2009, 04:29 PM
No the plan is to not go to peoples fucking jobs to try to get laid asshole.

OMG, there isn't a big enough thank you button! Where's the streamers and party hats thank you? ;)

Take comfort gameover, you're not interested in dating a stripper and no stripper will ever be interested in dating your cheap ass either. See? Shit works out.

Elvia
07-03-2009, 04:38 PM
^^^ LOL.


I really don't get this whole attitude of

"But if you spend money, then you're a customer!"

If you don't work there, then in our eyes, that only leaves one role for you- customer. Know your damn role!

vmurphy252
07-03-2009, 04:39 PM
^But if I don't spend money, there hasn't been a transaction, so how can I possibly be a customer?}:D

vmurphy252
07-03-2009, 04:40 PM
^I can get the Generally Accepted Accounting Practices policy that demonstrates this for you if you'd like. ;)

Elvia
07-03-2009, 04:43 PM
^But if I don't spend money, there hasn't been a transaction, so how can I possibly be a customer?}:D

You're right. You are not a customer. You are someone who has failed in their role of being a customer, i.e., a cheap bastard. Also not appealing.

(Obviously, I don't literally mean you, Vmurphy).

JayATee
07-03-2009, 05:04 PM
^But if I don't spend money, there hasn't been a transaction, so how can I possibly be a customer?}:D

You're ITC. You don't work there, that makes you a customer. Whether or not you spend money is obviously up to you. How a dancer views you (good, bad, decent w/e) is also up to you. If you're not spending you're still a customer, but now you're a loser customer.

BTW, I've also been known to make sure that every dancer ITC knows when a certain custie isn't tipping, so honestly, not spending any money only hurts you. We're not asking for much here. All we want is to be paid for our work, and we deserve that payment.