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Pretty_Penny
07-15-2009, 06:35 PM
Also, for the record and to further explain my opinion on the original post:

I personally find that "being able to hold a conversation" is one of my biggest assets in the club. I don't have that big-titted-playmate look (not that there's anything wrong with it) and I am not a high contact dancer. Every good regular I've ever had has commented on my conversation skills/brain/etc at some point (as a reason for their liking me). That being said, there have been occasions when customers (whom I'd not previously met) have told me I'm "too smart" to get dances with. Maybe this is because they equate smart with "no fun" or perhaps "less contact", fuck if I know. What I DO know is I have also been asked specifically by customers which dancer "doesn't have much going on upstairs". I, of course, won't answer that question. Maybe it's just a different type of customer than the ones who frequent this board.

vmurphy252
07-15-2009, 08:20 PM
I don't dumb myself down at work by any means, but I'm telling you right now.. if I was 100% genuine about everything all the time at work I would -never- make a dollar. That's coming from someone who is actually pretty damned honest at work.

I'm not trying to be offensive, I just think you don't want as much as "truth" as you think you do.
I didn't mean 100% truthful. But, considering the environment of the club, react like a real person in a conversation, not like a sex robot/stereotype. Does that make sense?

Earl_the_Pearl
07-15-2009, 10:47 PM
I'm not trying to be offensive, I just think you don't want as much as "truth" as you think you do.
PLs can't handle the truth. ;)

Pretty_Penny
07-16-2009, 10:27 PM
I didn't mean 100% truthful. But, considering the environment of the club, react like a real person in a conversation, not like a sex robot/stereotype. Does that make sense?

Yes it does, and I think most dancers (self included) do. Most of the girls I work with are generally "real", albeit maybe exaggerating certain parts of their personality. I only know a handful who totally "play a character".

vmurphy252
07-17-2009, 05:46 AM
^So it sounds like the handful are what would turn me off.

Cyril
07-18-2009, 08:46 PM
I would prefer a smart dancer with whom I can have some amusing conversation.

Jake39
07-19-2009, 09:44 PM
As an engineer while I do not expect dancers to discuss advanced physics, I do like intelligent, perky gals with little or no drama. To me its all about communication and postitive personality regardless of the dancer's education, etc.

Soth
06-06-2011, 10:05 PM
It's possible only the smart custies know how to use a computer, and all the other custies prefer dumb girls.

I might get a single dance from a simply good-looking girl, but if a girl engages with smart/witty sexy/intelligent conversation, that makes me want to get dances with her.

lfr
06-12-2011, 12:49 AM
I'd have to say no preference. though I guess, intelligence, to a point would be a help in determining someone's personality (which I am attracted to most, next to looks). but in a SC, if I can mesh with a girl, 'dumb' or 'smart' doesn't much matter to me how they are categorized, if I like a person, I like them, if not, then not.

bucket
06-12-2011, 01:00 PM
The number one thing that concerns me when walking into an establishment like a SC is to avoid people that have a sense of entitlement. I guess you could say drama queens or those that have anger management issues. This can apply to customers too.
I would say I don't have a preference. Smart is good but so is dumb but sweet.

lfr
06-13-2011, 05:05 PM
Now the amount that have not only called me smart but have trash talked the dumb strippers and then ended up in a room with one of them?? Countless.
I think this applies irl too. Many, many times have I witnessed this behavior with my guy friends.

I think it could be an ego/laziness thing. they want to feel like they have the control in a 'relationship' but are too scared/lazy to even try with a woman who actually has some brains or her own thoughts on something. (not to say that 'dumb' ones don't, but they are also usually less vocal about things with someone they barely know)

Seems the same reason why they can marry a girl with some of the 'smart' qualities, but when out cheating or just hanging out, will often flirt/try to hook up with the party 'ditz' of the bar/club, whatever.

BunniHops
06-13-2011, 05:14 PM
This survey is so amusing. I think the smart girls prevail...in theory. Sure, you SAY you want a smart girl. Then you get to the strip club and blow 500 bucks on the high school dropout club. There is a TINY handful of men who I have encountered in my year as a stripper who make any kind of comment on my intelligence. If they make a comment on it, oftentimes they then quickly deny me for a dance and move on to a dumb as rocks bimbo. I sometimes see the look on customers' faces when I tell them I'm graduating college this year, and it's so annoying. They look surprised, even shocked, intimidated, disbelieving, and uninterested all wrapped into one!

Smart is not preferable, sorry. Maybe the men on this board feel that way because they are more educated. But 95% of men I meet in the strip club have zero interest in my ability to hold a conversation or my knowledge about the world. I'm not pretentious, either. I just enjoy talking about a range of subjects that don't include my bra size or bodily functions. I realize I'm not in the industry where intelligence is applauded, but SHIT you'd think it would help somewhat.

lfr
06-13-2011, 05:35 PM
There is a TINY handful of men who I have encountered in my year as a stripper who make any kind of comment on my intelligence.
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I sometimes see the look on customers' faces when I tell them I'm graduating college this year, and it's so annoying. They look surprised, even shocked, intimidated, disbelieving, and uninterested all wrapped into one!.
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Smart is not preferable, sorry. Maybe the men on this board feel that way because they are more educated.
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I realize I'm not in the industry where intelligence is applauded, but SHIT you'd think it would help somewhat.

I don't think I've mentioned this here yet, but man, the first girl I fell for at this SC I fell for b/c we had the greatest, easiest convo's ever! The fact that she reminded me of one of my exes always helps though. ;)

But I talked to another girl about her since she left (temporary, maybe) because she was a smart girl, and I LOVED that about her. The other girl agreed. I was giving her all my attention and money, but then I found out she left cause she was preparing to move to a better school but the SC with pics and all would derail her chance at the school. But man, that girl was the best.

I miss her, but I'm happy for her, b/c it means she's moving up and out into the world. Hopefully she gets to do what she wants and she seems to have the desire to accomplish that.

In fact, the girl I'm crushing on now is kinda like her too now. She's a smart, young girl and has a focus on what she wants to do with her life. I hope, hope, she's using this job to move on, but who knows. I think she's a top earner and she does quite well.

I think, maybe I'd be considered a dick for saying this, and no offense to anyone here. But really, my dream is that all these girls who I've gotten to know and like at SC's, are able to have great lives, being happy doing what they do, when they hopefully more on out of the SC biz. I mean it seems like they wanted to, have the desire and knowledge to, but it may be some lie for all I know, but I would like them to have nice, easier lives, instead of dealing with all the shit that goes along with SC's. Meet someone nice to be with them, etc. I would like to enter the SC one day and maybe, either, knowing about it through social sources, like email, or whatever, I have with them, not be in the club or any club and me not be interested in any of the girls there. I would like to know that they moved on and can start their young lives with some money and the right attitude. That's really my ultimate wish/goal in seeing these young women whom I've had the priviledge to know for such a short time.

JoeUnCool
06-14-2011, 05:42 AM
Wow, old thread.

Personally, I prefer a more intelligent dancer. An intelligent dancer can keep my interest. A dumb one.........well, tits only take you so far.

BunniHops
06-14-2011, 11:26 AM
Lfr,

It's a sweet thing to say. It's hard because some girls are really very nice and smart but they get caught up in the game and instead of pursuing their dreams, they're stuck pursuing the money for a long time. What started out as a one year plan to make enough money to buy a car turns into a five year reason to quit college. It's difficult for us - we WANT to do things but sometimes feel trapped, especially if we are smart or motivated because the SC definitely crushes dreams sometimes. But I think the good ones will always come out of it with experience and improved real-world skills. It's not an obstacle if you learn how to utilize it, but it surely CAN block success if we get too wrapped up in the atmosphere. Stripping is by no means easy, but with intelligence we can learn to move on in a dignified way and look at our years of work as set-up for a good, happy life.

lfr
06-15-2011, 01:26 AM
It's hard because some girls are really very nice and smart but they get caught up in the game and instead of pursuing their dreams, they're stuck pursuing the money for a long time. What started out as a one year plan to make enough money to buy a car turns into a five year reason to quit college.

Thank you for your response, BunniHops. :)
It's nice to know that you and I are thinking the same thing, but as you said (as I quoted) this kinda scares me a bit.

I mean, I can see the pure enthusiasm in my girls' face and words when she hypes up her club and all. She's about at the one year mark, I think. But in moments when I get her really talking to me, she tells me she wants other things and I try to encourage her, but I know the money must be good (I know I contribute, but I do tell her to save it all the time) and some other things in her personal life I know, aren't really helping her with a choice that she would be able to get away from the SC money.

I know to some, I'm coming off like one of those psycho-douchey, 'wants to save a girl from stripping' guys. But I can't help it. I like her, as a person. She's young, sexy as hell, seems smart enough to know the good and bad choices one can make in their life and I guess I don't mind if she's sowing her wild oats, but her future worries me, and it shouldn't. I'm not her family, 'real' friend or even co-worker. I'm her just one of her many customers and she's a good girl.

At times when I get too worried, I figure, I can just spend some time with her and try to enjoy every minute I got with her. I can lose myself in the fantasy, 'cause she also reminds me (looks like) of a person very important to my life whom I don't see anymore. And pray when I get home. Hopefully I provide some comfort to her when I'm there but I know she'll be on her own the rest of her life when she or I am gone.

I like what you said about good, intelligent ones and what they can take from stripping. This is what I will pray for her from now on.

Sry 'bout the rambling BH, you can see how she weighs on my mind. ;)

Tdonuts
06-15-2011, 05:07 AM
...nice post lfr,
I think at one time we've all met a dancer who we've felt this way about, even knowing it would mean probably never seeing them again.

rickdugan
06-15-2011, 09:31 AM
I know to some, I'm coming off like one of those psycho-douchey, 'wants to save a girl from stripping' guys. But I can't help it. I like her, as a person. She's young, sexy as hell, seems smart enough to know the good and bad choices one can make in their life and I guess I don't mind if she's sowing her wild oats, but her future worries me, and it shouldn't. I'm not her family, 'real' friend or even co-worker. I'm her just one of her many customers and she's a good girl.

You can console yourself with the knowledge that she, and many others like her, often make good money off of guys suffering with White Knight Syndrome. ;)

JoeUnCool
06-15-2011, 11:12 AM
I don't think I've mentioned this here yet, but man, the first girl I fell for at this SC I fell for b/c we had the greatest, easiest convo's ever! The fact that she reminded me of one of my exes always helps though. ;)

But I talked to another girl about her since she left (temporary, maybe) because she was a smart girl, and I LOVED that about her. The other girl agreed. I was giving her all my attention and money, but then I found out she left cause she was preparing to move to a better school but the SC with pics and all would derail her chance at the school. But man, that girl was the best.

I miss her, but I'm happy for her, b/c it means she's moving up and out into the world. Hopefully she gets to do what she wants and she seems to have the desire to accomplish that.

In fact, the girl I'm crushing on now is kinda like her too now. She's a smart, young girl and has a focus on what she wants to do with her life. I hope, hope, she's using this job to move on, but who knows. I think she's a top earner and she does quite well.

I think, maybe I'd be considered a dick for saying this, and no offense to anyone here. But really, my dream is that all these girls who I've gotten to know and like at SC's, are able to have great lives, being happy doing what they do, when they hopefully more on out of the SC biz. I mean it seems like they wanted to, have the desire and knowledge to, but it may be some lie for all I know, but I would like them to have nice, easier lives, instead of dealing with all the shit that goes along with SC's. Meet someone nice to be with them, etc. I would like to enter the SC one day and maybe, either, knowing about it through social sources, like email, or whatever, I have with them, not be in the club or any club and me not be interested in any of the girls there. I would like to know that they moved on and can start their young lives with some money and the right attitude. That's really my ultimate wish/goal in seeing these young women whom I've had the priviledge to know for such a short time.

Post to this thread in a few years with pics of the children and the little white picket fence. :P

lfr
06-15-2011, 11:12 PM
I think at one time we've all met a dancer who we've felt this way about, even knowing it would mean probably never seeing them again.
thanks for the understanding Td.


You can console yourself with the knowledge that she, and many others like her, often make good money off of guys suffering with White Knight Syndrome.
ah, that's what it's called, thanks rick. Yeah, I guess you're one of the vets here with lots of SC experience. And I may say and think these things here, but I certainly don't 'act' on them at the SC, so I hope I am less douchey to her and the place, in general, than I seem here. ;)


Post to this thread in a few years with pics of the children and the little white picket fence.
that's what I'm hoping for.

sparky72
06-16-2011, 09:22 AM
I would I have that when it comes to smarts I am just average but I do read a lot and have a range of interests

I have an issue with the dumb dancers. I have a cousin that got by on just her looks, she has this blank look on her face when you talk to her. When I meet a dumb dancers I just think of my cousin and its a turn off

The dancers that are highly educated might make me feel a insecure or intimated at first in part because I don't want to look stupid in her eyes. If she is more knowledgeable about a topics I like then I see how it can be a positive thing.

Asian Sensation
06-18-2011, 10:37 AM
I don't actively prefer the smart ones for a dancer (after all she's a stripper not a girlfriend) but I only buy dances from the smarter ones. The reason for this is it's more difficult to say no to someone you've been conversing with compared to someone whose vocabulary is limited to "Wanna buy a dance?"

Happy2BSpoiled
10-23-2011, 05:34 PM
I'm really shocked by the results, what with a large percentage of the girls on the pink side complaining about how customers only like the really dumb chicks.

Sometimes we are surprised by things that are really not that shocking. Men and women have been trying to figure each other out for years. Only very few of us ever do. I just wish I was one that could figure it out! ;)

Happy2BSpoiled
10-23-2011, 06:07 PM
Doesn't really surprise me. I don't feel that most of the guys who post here are representative of the average strip club customer. Also, the key word you used was complain. Most ladies come to the board to commiserate and complain about the customers that bug them, not heap praise on the ones that don't.

Sometimes I wonder how much true information is being said as well. I'm not talking about this thread in general. Just sometimes when giving an opinion people will try to be p.c. For example, when you look at the pink side how many times have you seen "I never do extras in VIP" compared to the number of men on the board that have said they have gotten them? The numbers don't add up. I'm not saying people are lying, just how many are afraid to speak the truth.

Sometimes it is perception. I know have been spoken about as a "dirty girl" by some girls when I am new to a club and then I find out they do way more than I do. (Don't get me wrong, I'm not pulling dick out or getting fingered, but I like to have fun and do full contact dances.) For example, one girl talked about me behind my back a lot. Then one day I had a customer ask me to meet him outside of the club. I told him I don't really like to do that. He told me he was safe and that he did it with the certain girl that had been talking crap about me. He told me that they have sex once a week and he pays her rent and some of her bills. He said he would like to do the same for me. I told him thanks but that I wasn't interested.

Then in the dressing room she started talking shit about me, not in general, but I knew what she was implying. I said, "Oh, (fill in her name here) I met (customer's name here). He is very nice. Her reply, "Yes, he IS VERY nice." Then I told her about our conversation in front of everyone. She was speechless and walked off. I found this to be true about many girls.

As in life, take everything you hear with a grain of salt.

KeithDoxen
10-23-2011, 06:30 PM
Smart girls are waaaaay hotter than dumb girls. This poll proves that most guys think this way. I think that the girls who seem to suspect that guys prefer dumb girls are just using that as an excuse to make themselves feel better. Thinking that he doesn't like you because you're too smart for him is more therapeutic than being honest about the real reason that the guy is selecting another girl over you.

Happy2BSpoiled
10-23-2011, 06:48 PM
This survey is so amusing. I think the smart girls prevail...in theory. Sure, you SAY you want a smart girl. Then you get to the strip club and blow 500 bucks on the high school dropout club. There is a TINY handful of men who I have encountered in my year as a stripper who make any kind of comment on my intelligence. If they make a comment on it, oftentimes they then quickly deny me for a dance and move on to a dumb as rocks bimbo. I sometimes see the look on customers' faces when I tell them I'm graduating college this year, and it's so annoying. They look surprised, even shocked, intimidated, disbelieving, and uninterested all wrapped into one!

Smart is not preferable, sorry. Maybe the men on this board feel that way because they are more educated. But 95% of men I meet in the strip club have zero interest in my ability to hold a conversation or my knowledge about the world. I'm not pretentious, either. I just enjoy talking about a range of subjects that don't include my bra size or bodily functions. I realize I'm not in the industry where intelligence is applauded, but SHIT you'd think it would help somewhat.

Haha, so I guess when I hear "wow, you are smarter than you look." I should be glad. Dumb as a rock Bimbo look-with brains. :0)))

wall
11-24-2011, 05:40 PM
Ok guys, there have been a bunch of threads lately on the pink side about this. I realize it's a very black & white statement I'm asking you to make. If you really can't "pick one" just don't vote. I also want to clarify that I'm asking purely based on how the dancer SEEMS to be. If she's "acting dumb" or not, doesn't matter. Also, for the sake of the poll, lets say that the dancers are equally physically attractive. Let's also not assume "dumb" means "giggly" or "fun". When I say dumb.. I mean she appears to not have much going on up there. Obviously a poll will always be flawed as there are far too many factors to include, so please don't take this too seriously.

Totally, absolutely, positively, don't care about how intelligent a dancer is. If there's any conversation to be had, it doesn't have to be deep to be interesting enough at the time.