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safado
07-08-2009, 03:25 PM
Why not join the fraternity of mongers and take a month vacation to go to a place like Thailand where you can have lots of booze, partying, and women? There will be more debauchery than you can handle.

jack0177057
07-08-2009, 03:28 PM
I don't know why you feel so attacked by him. He's one of the least aggressive posters here, and he's also one of the most helpful.

I also think it's cute that you thanked hockeybobby for his post and had a problem with mine when I originally posted it, and it's the one he quoted.

You mean your post where you begged Verf to re-post his initial attack ad?...


Verf I'm sorry you deleted your post...

You and Verf are allies in attack ads against me...

I have a hard time telling the difference between when you are insulting me and when you are trying to help me with "tough love" arguments... Like I said to you earlier...


I don't know if you were genuinely trying to help me or just seized on another opportunity to insult me,... but, I'll assume you were being sincere and thank you for your advice...

I've tried to make peace with you, because I like you... So, here I am trying again...

verfolgung
07-08-2009, 06:33 PM
^^^ Yes, yes of course I understand. What she posts is "advice" and "tough love" that can be forgiven.
Meanwhile, I post "attack ads." Okay. Heh. ;)

Please know that when different people some to a similar conclusion independently, it does not mean that they teamed up.
Wouldn't want someone innocent to be subject to guilt by association with me. Heh.

vmurphy252
07-08-2009, 06:34 PM
^Can't we all just get along?

vmurphy252
07-08-2009, 06:42 PM
^^^ Yes, yes of course I understand. What she posts is "advice" and "tough love" that can be forgiven.
Meanwhile, I post "attack ads." Okay. Heh. ;)

Please know that when different people some to a similar conclusion independently, it does not mean that they teamed up.
Wouldn't want someone innocent to be subject to guilt by association with me. Heh.
Yeah, verf and I are the ones plotting against others in chat. JayATee won't deign to join us.

JayATee
07-08-2009, 06:45 PM
You mean your post where you begged Verf to re-post his initial attack ad?...




You and Verf are allies in attack ads against me...


I have a hard time telling the difference between when you are insulting me and when you are trying to help me with "tough love" arguments... Like I said to you earlier...





I've tried to make peace with you, because I like you... So, here I am trying again...


You're paranoid and delusional if this is what you really believe. And if you think that was begging, then you've never actually seen anyone beg for anything.

I didn't attack you, I gave you some serious advice that you couldn't handle. That's not my fault, or Verf's. Fucking chill.

princessjas
07-08-2009, 06:56 PM
In the SC, the dancers only "want" me for my money and it is still a lot of fun...


There is someone I am seeing,... but that's too complicated to get into in this thread... Like most relationships, its got its ups and downs...

Good suggestions.

I don't believe in using drugs to fix life's dilemmas, except in extreme cases (like thoughts of suicide, etc...) Also, I'd rather spend my money on the sports car and college co-ed, than an some stodgy old psychiatrist and his drugs...

Thanks!

I'm not sure what you read into my post...I only suggested the coed might be a bad plan, because girls that young come with shitloads of drama generally, are more likely to mainly be attracted to your money, and tend to be more sexually reserved, than a woman in her late 20's early 30's....many of whom LOOK just as young as the coed's but with the above mentioned bonuses....I fully support finding a hot chick and getting your world rocked in whatever kinky fashion does it for you, just figured that one that is going to care about you as a person without being clingy/crazy/immature would be much less stressful. ;) (I have heard some crazy drama from a friend of mine who dated a 25 year old.)


^^^ Thanks, hockeybobby... Yeah, a lot of good advice from everyone... except for the attack ads by Verf...

I hear what everyone is saying... and I agree...

I have to get over my fixation on the "glory days" of college... It's like those middle-age guys that just keep talking about their glorious HS football games... I was not agreat athlete, so my "glory days" were in college...

I just need to stop looking in the rear-view mirror and find something new and promising in the horizon... Right now, I'm thinking I should retire from the practice of law in about 1 or 2 years to become a college professor...

I don't expect that being back in college (as a professor) will be anything like the "glory days"... But, it'll be intellectually stimulating and rewarding to challenge young people to think "critically"...

Not looking back is a very good suggestion. Look forward, find what makes you happy today, right now! It will probably be different than what made you happy back then anyway.

xdamage
07-08-2009, 06:59 PM
hey option #3... go get drunk.. it's cheap and worst is you end up in jail, a real reminder of the wonders of being 20 something and stupid

jack0177057
07-08-2009, 07:41 PM
I didn't attack you, I gave you some serious advice that you couldn't handle. That's not my fault, or Verf's. Fucking chill.

Who said I can't handle it? I said 'thank you' twice now... and I agreed with you... What more do you want from me, JayTee?... Seriously,... just tell me what you want from me...

I respect you and I admire you... Yeah, you've been through a lot of shit and deserve that from me... You've had it a lot tougher than me and pulled through, there's no doubt about that... You're a very smart and tough human being and I'm sure you'll succeed in whatever undertakings you pursue in life...

I really don't know what else to say to you... I'm done...

hockeybobby
07-08-2009, 07:57 PM
Jeez...I hope this shit-storm of a thread didn't make your crisis worse Jack.

http://ageless-northshore.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/p_rodney_dangerfield_1-292x300.jpg

xdamage
07-08-2009, 08:06 PM
....I fully support finding a hot chick and getting your world rocked in whatever kinky fashion does it for you, just figured that one that is going to care about you as a person without being clingy/crazy/immature would be much less stressful. ;) (I have heard some crazy drama from a friend of mine who dated a 25 year old.)

!!!

Jack, take notes... this is some insightful words right here.

jack0177057
07-08-2009, 08:11 PM
Jeez...I hope this shit-storm of a thread didn't make your crisis worse Jack.

Not at all, I feel great!... Like I said, I'm seriously beginning to give thought to pursuing a college professorship career in maybe a year or two... It has all the elements that were discussed in this thread... helping others, working with young people, having time to do philanthropical things, finding personal and spiritual fulfillment...

I'm actually really psyched about this idea... If anyone else on this forum is a college professor, please PM me...

I appreciate everyone that contribued to this thread...

xdamage
07-08-2009, 08:58 PM
Not at all, I feel great!... Like I said, I'm seriously beginning to give thought to pursuing a college professorship career in maybe a year or two... It has all the elements that were discussed in this thread... helping others, working with young people, having time to do philanthropical things, finding personal and spiritual fulfillment...

FWIW, and you're gonna hate this...

And JayATee's original comments suggested...

Trying some experiences that are not limited to the artificial (I call it BS world) of academic life.

Like I said your not going to love this but go out and get your hands dirty... academics is an okay starting point but I actually am far more impressed by those who do under pressure. Which your actually kind of doing now and bitching about cause it's stressful. Yes it is... also that is how you grow your personality, by stressing it, hey.. kind of like exercise... we grow via stress, not by avoiding it. Me I'd say go take a few days off, decompress, but I believe strong in there are those who teach and those who do...

Oh ya also... I left behind my career in psych for a career in computing by "doing"... reading, and doing... there are no better programmers then me because of degrees. I've risen to the top repeatedly by actually going all in vs relying on a degree. Academics is a necessity in some careers sure, where a license is required, but that is not the ending.. just a beginning... even the career you are in now... if you really wanted too, you could break new ground, go all in, become excited, but it won't happen behind a podium. That level of involvement requires you go all in emotionally, and stop avoiding stress.

JayATee
07-08-2009, 09:07 PM
Who said I can't handle it? I said 'thank you' twice now... and I agreed with you... What more do you want from me, JayTee?... Seriously,... just tell me what you want from me...

I respect you and I admire you... Yeah, you've been through a lot of shit and deserve that from me... You've had it a lot tougher than me and pulled through, there's no doubt about that... You're a very smart and tough human being and I'm sure you'll succeed in whatever undertakings you pursue in life...

I really don't know what else to say to you... I'm done...

Your previous comments did. And you're still acting as though Im attacking you. Get a grip would you? All I can do is comment on your comments. All I can do is go off your attitude. No one is persecuting you. Chill out!

fast tan77
07-09-2009, 09:01 AM
Wow, I am in a mid-lifer myself and my head is spinning from this thread. Don't know if I should be working with lepers or strippers lol.

My cure so far has been fast cars, hard liquior and hot women.

Hey Jaz, soon to be ex ha? You taking app's for new boytoy's, I am available lol.

Jayatee, your new pic scares the hell out of me.

JayATee
07-09-2009, 11:39 AM
Jayatee, your new pic scares the hell out of me.

But she doesn't have fangs or anything? /:O

Cat2008
07-09-2009, 12:16 PM
It is seems like an achivement crisis. You see yourself on top, yet sounds like you don't enjoy your job and don't see where further you can go while where you at is not satisfying you. Seems like job of choice is not for you and you got where for wrong reasons. The only way is to start something new that you enjoy, and begin at bottom of it. Like a brand new profession. If you want to be young you have to accept challenges and unsecurities of future of being young too. If anything, it will give you new experiences and get you way too busy to be discontented. But for what you have to abandon your achivements (otherwise it will be just a pretend game). And no one want to do what. Well, it is your dilemma. Ever change your life drastically or start liking that you have.

fast tan77
07-09-2009, 12:33 PM
Jaytee, I have a repeated dream of a black haired vampire girl attacking me. Not in a fun, sexual way but in a bad, rip your throat out way. Your pic is the girl I see.

commanderadama
07-09-2009, 12:35 PM
My conclusion about Jack, from a multitude of of threads, is that he is having some sort of Identity crisis.

On Class:

He doesn't understand where he is and doesn't know who he should be. Why he chose being a Lawyer as his online persona is interesting. (I say online because in one post I distinctly remember him saying he's been doing it 20 years, which means he has to be at least 47 not 37.) He seems offended that I (correctly) labeled him middle class as only someone in that class would bother to list their assets. (Classes above all have nice things and classes below have nothing to brag about thus making it pointless for both.) And as I've stated my class couldn't care less, Thus I have no interest in sharing personal details about myself. I'm here for interchange of ideas, facts and opinions. Nothing more, Nothing less.

On Women:

Jack reminds me of Kevin Spacey's Character in American Beauty. He longs for the traditional relationships. I ID'd this almost immediately and recommended he travel to Ukraine or Russia and find him a nice Eastern European girl. I know several men like him and they are very happy with their Eastern European Brides. If Jack has the assets he claims he should have no problem traveling to Ukraine about six times (easiest to get into, no Visa required) to meet someone special. Russia is MUCH more expensive and harder to travel in, but the women are prettier and usually have more english skills. Most of the 20 somethings are in college or hold degrees as it's free for them. If anything it would be an adventure for him. I'm not one who thinks they (EU women) are better than western women, just VERY different. 8) (I of course don't like them as they are VERY provider role oriented.) Of course being middle class he'll be too scared to venture off on his own. So I'd suggest a Marriage Agency. ;D

But honestly, I think true happiness is in Ukraine for Jacky. ;)

Cat2008
07-09-2009, 12:57 PM
I ID'd this almost immediately and recommended he travel to Ukraine or Russia and find him a nice Eastern European girl.
... So I'd suggest a Marriage Agency. ;D

But honestly, I think true happiness is in Ukraine for Jacky. ;)

Oh.. don't advice that! Being EU girl myself I know just as many girls who got married, got green card and divorce dude. Although I know some happy ending too. However, when someone as young as 20 and attractive marrying someone much older than her she whom hardly know and from different culture as well you should always consider some motive other than love. Of course, it could just that guy being from different culture could have some honest appeal for girl but it could also ruin relationship later on as girl may suddenly find out that dislike American culture after all and rather be with someone with whom she has more things in common.

I think when problem is dissatisfaction with youself yo cannot solve it by marring someone or finding 20 years girlfriend. It is not 20-years old girlfriend/boyfriend that made you feel young when you was young, it is this dreams of youth, expectation and all that stuff.

commanderadama
07-09-2009, 01:12 PM
^^^^
Valid points but I think the experience alone would, 1) Give Jack something to pursue and 2) Best chance at finding a "traditional" girl.

For Instance, if I thought Jack was brave enough I'd tell him to go to Odessa in the summer, rent an Apartment for a Month and see who he met.

stressed
07-09-2009, 01:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fast tan77
Jayatee, your new pic scares the hell out of me.


But she doesn't have fangs or anything?

That might just be an enjoyable death.}:D


:D man i need to lay of the weed

JayATee
07-09-2009, 01:51 PM
^LoL




Jaytee, I have a repeated dream of a black haired vampire girl attacking me. Not in a fun, sexual way but in a bad, rip your throat out way. Your pic is the girl I see.

Well, I really am sorry it bothers you so much. :-\

jack0177057
07-09-2009, 02:18 PM
Oh no,... not this, again!


My conclusion about Jack, from a multitude of of threads, is that he is having some sort of Identity crisis.

On Class:

He doesn't understand where he is and doesn't know who he should be. Why he chose being a Lawyer as his online persona is interesting.

I said I'm middle-class like 80% of the people... How am I confused about this? I said I'm proud to be middle class and even shared with you Aristotle's classical writing regarding the virtue of the middle class...


(I say online because in one post I distinctly remember him saying he's been doing it 20 years, which means he has to be at least 47 not 37.)

I've been practicing law about 10 years... I said that I work for a firm that's been representing the Houston elite for 20 years.


He seems offended that I (correctly) labeled him middle class as only someone in that class would bother to list their assets.

No, I'm proud to be middle class... Aristotle said the middle-class is what holds civilization together and is the most productive in every respect... Without the middle class, there would be endless blood shed in wars between the rich and the poor; the powerful and the disenfranchised. I ridiculed you for claiming not to be middle class,... for suggesting you are upper class because you go to Europe once a year, have a "library" at home, and claim to have a passion for museums.



On Women:

Jack reminds me of Kevin Spacey's Character in American Beauty. He longs for the traditional relationships.

I wouldn't call college hook-ups "traditional"... I long for the glory days of college,... which has nothing to do with "traditional relationships"...



I ID'd this almost immediately and recommended he travel to Ukraine or Russia and find him a nice Eastern European girl.

I've date European girls when I studied in England (I can't name the university because it is very prestigious and this might offend Verf) and when I visited family in Spain... and I've dated South American girls (when I've visited family in South America) and I like them all,... but my preference has always been American girls... I've never dated an Eastern European girl,.. but, I'll keep your suggestion in mind...

fast tan77
07-09-2009, 02:19 PM
Jayatee, not really bothers, but its just those dark eyes, black lips and big black hair is just like in my dreams. Scares is the best word to describe it.

jack0177057
07-09-2009, 02:21 PM
Your previous comments did. And you're still acting as though Im attacking you. Get a grip would you? All I can do is comment on your comments. All I can do is go off your attitude. No one is persecuting you. Chill out!

So, we're "friends", then?

verfolgung
07-09-2009, 02:27 PM
... I've date European girls when I studied in England (I can't name the university because it is very prestigious and this might offend Verf) ...

LOL - Why, because you think the person you're talking to, or many of the rest of us, don't remember that you've already mentioned you studied abroad at Oxford several times, along with your under grad studies in NY, or your Law School studies at Baylor? Heh. :P Again, I'm not offended, just trying to point that you don't always need to re-state your credentials evey time you feel the need to make a point. Would your post really have been less efective to simply say something like, "I've dated foreign women before from Europe and Latin America" and leave it at that? Apparently you still feel the need to include your time at the "prestegious" university. Heh. Oh well you just don't get it. It's okay - Admittedly, I've made my point and probably said more than my fair share, so I'll stop posting about it, if you stop trying to make subtle jabs back at me. Deal?

jack0177057
07-09-2009, 02:27 PM
I think when problem is dissatisfaction with youself yo cannot solve it by marring someone or finding 20 years girlfriend. It is not 20-years old girlfriend/boyfriend that made you feel young when you was young, it is this dreams of youth, expectation and all that stuff.

I agree, I'm not so fixated on young girls, though obviously youth is very pretty... But, I've date women older than me that made me feel young inside...

Your characterization is pretty on point, "dreams of youth, expectation and all that stuff", which includes... care-free attitude, "intellectual" debates on the beach until 2am, thinking you can changed the world, etc...

The college "debauchery" was fun too, but that's not entirely it, either...

stressed
07-09-2009, 02:34 PM
So, we're "friends", then?

Yeah all they way up to that point that she decides to rip your throat out

He pauses for another toke-----:monkeedan

JayATee
07-09-2009, 03:16 PM
Jayatee, not really bothers, but its just those dark eyes, black lips and big black hair is just like in my dreams. Scares is the best word to describe it.

Then you definitely definitely wouldn't like me IRL. :D

Actually it's all eye make up. Her lips are blood red, her eye shadow is a deep indigo blue with black scroll work down her face. You don't see her eyes (irises) at all. It's too bad it came out so small she's actually quite beautiful.


So, we're "friends", then?

I've never had a problem with you as a person. I don't know you so I can't judge you.


Yeah all they way up to that point that she decides to rip your throat out

He pauses for another toke-----:monkeedan
I like you. }:D

jack0177057
07-09-2009, 03:20 PM
LOL - Why, because you think the person you're talking to, or many of the rest of us, don't remember that you've already mentioned you studied abroad at Oxford several times, along with your under grad studies in NY, or your Law School studies at Baylor? Heh. :P Again, I'm not offended, just trying to point that you don't always need to re-state your credentials evey time you feel the need to make a point. Would your post really have been less efective to simply say something like, "I've dated foreign women before from Europe and Latin America" and leave it at that? Apparently you still feel the need to include your time at the "prestegious" university. Heh. Oh well you just don't get it. It's okay - Admittedly, I've made my point and probably said more than my fair share, so I'll stop posting about it, if you stop trying to make subtle jabs back at me. Deal?

So, I have to omit background info?... Even the fact that I have family in Spain and Latin America?... How is this offensive?... It is just background info to explain why I was over there and got to meet women... Same with the university... (Which I only recall mentioning in one thread.)

If you admit that you tried to hijack my thread and turn it into a "let's all bash Jack while he's down" thread... (hostilities spilling over from other threads)... then changed your mind about it,... then changed your mind, again... We'll call it a truce ... Be man enough to admit that...

xdamage
07-09-2009, 03:24 PM
The vampire thing is quite cool. Not something everyone could pull off and look so good doing it (though I recommend playing Everquest over the Sims - ask VMurphy about that ;))

The EU thing... sure, you can import-a-wife who has no feelings for you, but it is hard to imagine anything more lame. Better to just be alone.

I don't get the whole class argument you two keep having. Who gives a fuck what class you are in?

JayATee
07-09-2009, 03:24 PM
So, I have to omit background info?... Even the fact that I have family in Spain and Latin America?... How is this offensive?... It is just background info to explain why I was over there and got to meet women... Same with the university...

If you admit that you tried to hijack my thread and turn it into a "let's all bash Jack while he's down" thread... (hostilities spilling over from other threads)... then changed your mind about it,... then changed your mind, again... We'll call it a truce and be friends... Be man enough to admit that...

He's trying to tell you that you don't have to post your background in every single post you make. Just like commanderadama doesn't have to post that he hates women in every single post he makes. We ALL know it already.

He didn't do anything of the sort, and you'll notice there were several ppl (myself included) that agreed with his post so obviously it isn't just him attacking you. Get a grip and stop being paranoid.


The vampire thing is quite cool. Not something everyone could pull off and look so good doing it (though I recommend playing Everquest over the Sims - ask VMurphy about that )





Everquest? I've never heard of it. Truly, it's the sims and world of warcraft, and more wow then the sims.

jack0177057
07-09-2009, 03:34 PM
He's trying to tell you that you don't have to post your background in every single post you make. Just like commanderadama doesn't have to post that he hates women in every single post he makes. We ALL know it already.

JayATee, you've mentioned that you're a law student just as many times as I've mentioned my "bio" ...Why hasn't he given you the same "helpful" advice he gave me?...


He didn't do anything of the sort, and you'll notice there were several ppl (myself included) that agreed with his post so obviously it isn't just him attacking you. Get a grip and stop being paranoid.

Let's look at his post... Which he deleted,... then posted, again...


Jack, hopefully you won't be too offended; however, since it's coming for me you may not take this well, but honestly I feel beaten over the head by your bio. :beat: Maybe I'm alone on this, but I get the feeling that some others feel this way too...
... Hopefully some others will provide some helpful feedback.

I think that last sentence was a clear invitation to you and others to join in some "helpful" Jack-bashing...

Anyway, he's a big boy and he can defend himself...

JayATee
07-09-2009, 03:37 PM
JayATee, you've mentioned that you're a law student just as many times as I've mentioned my "bio" ...Why hasn't he given you the same "helpful" advice he gave me?...



Let's look at his post... Which, he deleted,... then posted, again...



I think that last sentence was a clear invitation to you and others to join in some "helpful" Jack-bashing...

Anyway, I think he's a big boy and he can defend himself...

Ugh, done now.

I hope you're more effective to your clients...::)

commanderadama
07-09-2009, 05:45 PM
I said I'm middle-class like 80% of the people... How am I confused about this? I said I'm proud to be middle class and even shared with you Aristotle's classical writing regarding the virtue of the middle class...

Well 80% think they are and Aristotle's thoughts on the "middle class" are irrelevant to the modern world as there were slaves in his world who were the majority and lets not forget Women were basically chattel. Your grasp of historical context is lacking. LOL


I've been practicing law about 10 years... I said that I work for a firm that's been representing the Houston elite for 20 years.

Oh OK.



No, I'm proud to be middle class... Aristotle said the middle-class is what holds civilization together and is the most productive in every respect... Without the middle class, there would be endless blood shed in wars between the rich and the poor; the powerful and the disenfranchised. I ridiculed you for claiming not to be middle class,... for suggesting you are upper class because you go to Europe once a year, have a "library" at home, and claim to have a passion for museums.


Again, see above, his thoughts on this are irrelevant. The books I've quoted before are relevant. If you don't want to read them fine, but you've lost the argument.



I wouldn't call college hook-ups "traditional"... I long for the glory days of college,... which has nothing to do with "traditional relationships"...

Not trying to beat up on you but I doubt any of this is true. The numbers don't match up for a 37 year old that was married 10 years. Waco TX is not a party destination and Southern Baptist Women aren't known for their promiscuity. (I have colleagues that went to Baylor for their undergrad and I'm told it's not a party school. In fact they say the whole area was pretty boring.) Thus I think you dated your ex wife from your Senior year on and got married after you passed the bar because that's how SBW's role. ;D


I've date European girls when I studied in England (I can't name the university because it is very prestigious and this might offend Verf) and when I visited family in Spain... and I've dated South American girls (when I've visited family in South America) and I like them all,... but my preference has always been American girls... I've never dated an Eastern European girl,.. but, I'll keep your suggestion in mind...

This would only be credible if you were like me and refused from an early age to do LTRs. But you've already been in a 10 year marriage, thus you want a traditional wife. Best chance at finding one is in EU. But don't think of it as a mail order wife. Treat her like you would an American prospect and you'll be golden. If you're brave enough, head over now, weather is gorgeous in Odesa this time of year.

commanderadama
07-09-2009, 05:56 PM
The EU thing... sure, you can import-a-wife who has no feelings for you, but it is hard to imagine anything more lame. Better to just be alone.

Please elaborate why this is lame? Although I do agree it's better to be single.

But too be honest if I ever fell in love again (done it three times) it would be with a Canadian.

holly07
07-09-2009, 06:00 PM
Sounds like you are.
First thing is to accept you're not 21 anymore, but 37 is not old and you're not DEAD.

Second before you do anything drastic like quit your job or start selling everything, take a vacation immediately to reflect on all this. Obviously your friends and family are more important to you then all your possessions. So perhaps, you ought to think about a different firm, cutting back on hours, or an entirely different career, perhaps one of your hobbies or passions could pay the bills?

Third you've already realized one of life's vital lessons "money isn't everything,especially when you have no time to enjoy it

Hope this helps and let us know what you do

Gia2608
07-09-2009, 06:01 PM
Recently learned that professionals (esp. dentists) have a high suicide rate so you are not alone in your dissatisfaction and I do think you're having a mid-life crisis. Maybe a change is in order. Would you consider teaching as an adjunct professor? Or taking a class at a learning annex for cooking, photography or some other thing that interestes you? Is it possible to scale back a bit at work?

Stress is an inevitable part of adulthood but is none the less very unhealthy.

holly07
07-09-2009, 06:01 PM
Sounds like you are.
First thing is to accept you're not 21 anymore, but 37 is not old and you're not DEAD.

Second, before you do anything drastic like quit your job or start selling everything, take a vacation immediately to reflect on all this. Obviously your friends and family are more important to you then all your possessions. So perhaps, you ought to think about a different firm, cutting back on hours, or an entirely different career, perhaps one of your hobbies or passions could pay the bills?

Third, you've already realized one of life's vital lessons "money isn't everything,especially when you have no time to enjoy it

Hope this helps and let us know what you do

jack0177057
07-09-2009, 06:23 PM
Well 80% think they are and Aristotle's thoughts on the "middle class" are irrelevant to the modern world as there were slaves in his world who were the majority and lets not forget Women were basically chattel. Your grasp of historical context is lacking.

There were slaves and female oppression when the U.S. Constitution was written, too... Should we toss that away, also?

Go back and re-read the excerpt I posted from Aristotle's Politics and tell me why that reasoning does not apply today...

Just look at the world today... Countries with the largest middle class are the most stable and civilized... Countries with a small or non-existent middle class are the most unstable... The middle class keeps the other two classes in check... Without the middle class... the rich will oppress the poor unchecked, until the poor get tired of it and start a bloody revolution...

More proof? Just look at Enron, Wordcom, AIG, Madoff... etc. It's middle class prosecutors at the Dept. of Justice that prosecute the upper class egomaniacs... It's also middle class prosecutors in the DA's office that prosecute low class criminals... Take away the middle class and you have complete chaos and turmoil... Just like Aristotle predicted... Without the help of the middle class, the poor cannot protect themselves from the oppression of the rich, except through the most brutal violence...

jack0177057
07-09-2009, 06:35 PM
Thanks Gia and Holly,... Yeah, I've done a lot of reflecting over the past couple of days and I think I want to become a college professor in about a year or two (I need time to finish the projects I am working on right now)... I think this will make me happy on many levels...

I wasn't sure if was a good idea to "expose" myself on this forum and open myself up to personal attacks... But, actually, the support has been very positive...

Cyril
07-09-2009, 07:28 PM
Recently learned that professionals (esp. dentists) have a high suicide rate so you are not alone in your dissatisfaction and I do think you're having a mid-life crisis. Maybe a change is in order. Would you consider teaching as an adjunct professor? Or taking a class at a learning annex for cooking, photography or some other thing that interestes you? Is it possible to scale back a bit at work?

Stress is an inevitable part of adulthood but is none the less very unhealthy.

This was an excellent advise. Kudos!

Cyril
07-09-2009, 07:30 PM
I wasn't going to, but this is too fucking stupid that I can't help it (I know V, I know)... so tell me, you were talking about holding a female dog down on the bed and fucking it?

I suppose everyone has their fetish, but I probably wouldn't announce that you're into bestiality on a public forum...



/end threadjack.

I neither meant a human female nor a dog female. It was just a metaphor to illustrate a point. Lord, just calm down. OK?

vmurphy252
07-09-2009, 07:32 PM
^LoL





Well, I really am sorry it bothers you so much. :-\
Black haired vampire girl can feel free to attack me.

xdamage
07-09-2009, 07:52 PM
Everquest? I've never heard of it. Truly, it's the sims and world of warcraft, and more wow then the sims.

Arguably the original MMORPG... I've played WoW. Everquest is much larger and deeper, but arguably because of the older graphics and UI not very friendly. And also really not very good for solo players; much of it requires a group and trusted friends.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EverQuest

verfolgung
07-09-2009, 07:53 PM
Okay, so no deal then? Heh.


So, I have to omit background info?... Even the fact that I have family in Spain and Latin America?... How is this offensive?... It is just background info to explain why I was over there and got to meet women... Same with the university... (Which I only recall mentioning in one thread.)...

You really don't get it do you? Background info is okay. It's when it gets repeated over and over, and for reasons which appear to add little substance and seem more about chest pounding. Yes, you posted it in one thread ... no less than FOUR times! (Please as much as I'm sure you're annoyed by my posts in this thread, I have actually tried not to be vindictive and link all of your past posts. I have thus far resisted the temptation.) And btw, you can't just allude to the fact you went to study there, it has to pointed out that it was a "prestegious" institution. *thump thump* ::) It's not just the "what", it's the "how".

In all honestly, I figured I'd make a post in the hope that you might see why some people have started to look upon you in an less than favorable light. The hope was that you might be smart enough to realize that some honest constructive critcism might help you to be viewed in a better light going forward. My mistake was to think that, unlike some other personalities, it might be worth a shot to try to help you salvage your image. Apparently you have no interest but to keep satisfying your urge to self promote yourself. C'est la vie.


... If you admit that you tried to hijack my thread and turn it into a "let's all bash Jack while he's down" thread... (hostilities spilling over from other threads)... then changed your mind about it,... then changed your mind, again... We'll call it a truce ... Be man enough to admit that...

No, that is not the case. If you read my post I certainly left myself open for criticism, and admitted that I might be off with my observation. Unfortunately (yes, I say unfortunate), it turned out that more people agreed with me than disagreed with me. A point you continue to ignore, because in your eyes it's just me being an ass. Oh well. Like I said, the intent was to provide constructive criticism. I tried, I failed.

Btw - I removed my post when I realized your thoughts about reliving the good ole days, might generate some negative feedback, and then figured I should get out of the way before you go and blame me as the first poster for the direction your thread took. Well guess what, my post was gone, and you got some critical feedback. At least you can't blame that on me.

I already told you why I put it back - to show it wasn't some reckless, off handed insult.


JayATee, you've mentioned that you're a law student just as many times as I've mentioned my "bio" ...Why hasn't he given you the same "helpful" advice he gave me?...

Well gee, let's see. Perhaps there's no negative perception of her. And if there is, it's really only from people which the majority of the site doesn't really care about anyway. Heck, look at all the smack she talks with you, and you're still trying to be friends with her.


...Let's look at his post... Which he deleted,... then posted, again...

I think that last sentence was a clear invitation to you and others to join in some "helpful" Jack-bashing...

Hrm, or just perhaps it was an honest admission that my post was not really on topic. Perhaps it really was a hopefull wish that someone else might help you. Perhaps there is no malice in the statement at all. Perhaps? Geez ::)

Cyril
07-09-2009, 08:07 PM
Dude Verf,

There are new people joining all the time. So, there is no harm in anyone repeating their bio whenever they deem it prudent.

Quite frankly I wish there were more people who felt comfortable enough to share their bio on here.

JayATee
07-09-2009, 10:27 PM
Black haired vampire girl can feel free to attack me.

Mmm.... tease! Since your wife is pregnant now I can't even get you here this fall! You don't play fair!


I neither meant a human female nor a dog female. It was just a metaphor to illustrate a point. Lord, just calm down. OK?

Stop being an idiot and I will.


Dude Verf,



There are new people joining all the time. So, there is no harm in anyone repeating their bio whenever they deem it prudent.



Quite frankly I wish there were more people who felt comfortable enough to share their bio on here.


Shut up.

vmurphy252
07-10-2009, 06:12 AM
Mmm.... tease! Since your wife is pregnant now I can't even get you here this fall! You don't play fair!


Tease x 2. I'm not female, so don't even feign anything beyond making money off me... }:D