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cyberstripper
07-16-2009, 07:10 PM
I think there is a bigger lesson. Not to criticize you personally, but I've noticed with fewer customers and the same amount of girls (anywhere from 40 to 140 at my club), that the girls are talking FOREVER! It's like some of them think talking more will make him buy dances...it won't!

Talk 3 songs at most and he better spend some money in my book. If he isn't spending money on you give someone else a chance. I know were all bored, but some guys aren't spending as much money because they're entertained for free by us all sitting around talking one after the other. I had no one to sit with the other night almost all night because of girls just sitting around chatting (not even a drink in front of most of them). When I finally got one at 3:30 am, he bought a dance by 3:45 he bought champagne at 4 am. Try everyone, but don't try the same guy for an hour. Your not helping yourself or anyone else.

Sorry if I move off the thread a bit.

I can sympathize with this too. Some of these girls are clueless!!!! They talk and talk and talk, and seriously money seems to be their last concern! ONE OF MY BIGGEST PET PEEVES! if you are the next to speak to this guy, he will of course try to get all the conversation he can get. Do these girls realize TIME IS MONEY in the SC!

hawt
07-16-2009, 08:09 PM
People like that suck. I don't understand how he thinks strippers make all this money while the economy's this bad. What the fuck, if you guys aren't getting paid, then how are we getting paid?! The less money they make, the less they're willing to spend on us. Loser... >:(

rubysydney
07-16-2009, 11:45 PM
exact same thing happened to me last night. a guy interrupted me talking to his friend to tell me if he was a stripper he would make more money socializing then up on podium.

i replied 'well i've been sitting here for 15 minutes and you've given me $2'

jesus last night was bad.

Electrum
07-17-2009, 07:42 AM
I think a majority of guys still don't even realize we pay to work there. Strippers are so glamorized on TV that I think everyone thinks we are just walking Goddesses who get everything handed to us with minimal effort. Well, we are Goddesses, but we work hard damnit! I'm going in to work today with a slightly bitchy attitude and hopefully that helps me keep motivated. A little anger always helps me lol. But seriously, if it's at all like it was last time I went in I'm just going to try the grab and go approach for once. YOU, come play with me NOW!

femmefatale88
07-18-2009, 10:46 AM
I get that a lot too, how a guy would kind of "lead me on", telling me I am beautiful, act all interested, then doesn't want dances, and completely wastes my time. God I HATE it, sometimes guys really suck. At least give me like 10 bucks for my time, jeeeez... Then there are guys who want me to sit on their lap then wont buy dances or even a tip. I am never sitting on a guy's lap again, especially for free

CherryBomb954
07-18-2009, 10:50 AM
I think a majority of guys still don't even realize we pay to work there. Strippers are so glamorized on TV that I think everyone thinks we are just walking Goddesses who get everything handed to us with minimal effort.

And of course, we all know that not everyone is smart enough to realize everything on TV isn't true.

I agree alot of guys are clueless, especially about "house fees" and tipout.

A good example is when I was finished giving a dance, went to get the guy change (pathetic) out of my ankle (I had about 30 bucks give or take, all in 1's and 5's) and I get the "Whoah-ho-hoah!!!! Looks like you are making a killing tonight, huh?" I tell him no, that it's barely enough to cover my house fee and tipout, and that the money wasn't mine to keep. I get this face ::O "house fee?? I don't understand?" and "You mean you have to give the DJ some of what you make for playing the music?"

BuxomBeauty
07-18-2009, 12:08 PM
Then there are guys who want me to sit on their lap then wont buy dances or even a tip. I am never sitting on a guy's lap again, especially for freeThe guys who actually ask you to sit on their laps, then proceed to start pawing you immediately are always time-wasters. I simply get up and walk away without a word when this happens. Best to save my mental energy and avoid the frustration of dealing with this type of asshole. These guys will never be worth your time.


A good example is when I was finished giving a dance, went to get the guy change (pathetic) out of my ankle (I had about 30 bucks give or take, all in 1's and 5's) and I get the "Whoah-ho-hoah!!!! Looks like you are making a killing tonight, huh?" I tell him no, that it's barely enough to cover my house fee and tipout, and that the money wasn't mine to keep. I get this face ::O "house fee?? I don't understand?" and "You mean you have to give the DJ some of what you make for playing the music?"
LOL! I get this a lot too. WOW you're really making money tonight!! ....at the sight of a stack of mostly $1s.

Yeah buddy, I'm soooo rich with that lil stack of $1s ::)

audrey_k
07-18-2009, 03:20 PM
Stacks of $1s are deceiving...

One of the owner's friends came into my club a couple weeks ago and saw me counting my money (I had about $250 but hadn't paid fees or tips) in the back smoking area (no customers allowed). He remarked "you did good tonight, huh?" I told him not really, I would probably leave with $150 and for a Friday that was pretty pathetic. He told me "no way you've got to have more that stack of cash is THICK!" I replied it was almost all ones and flipped through it for him.

He didn't believe me and was convinced I had more $ than him so we counted out side by side. He had about $700 on him in hundreds and twenties. I had $250.

He left without giving me or any other girl a dime. I was pissed.

I really hate these guys who are friends of the owner and come in, don't have to pay cover charge or buy drinks and just hit on the strippers while not buying dances because they are "too good" for it. They also have tons of cash and drive $200,000+ cars.. and the owner comes in once a week at the most. I know who most of then are by now but new ones come in every once and a while and totally waste 15 minutes of my time. This is a strip club, not a hangout place!

Pretty_Penny
07-18-2009, 04:53 PM
I talk to the door girl a lot. I avoid pretty much anyone who bitches about the cover, regardless of who they know. I have yet to be wrong, since they have ALWAYS been completely cheap once in the club.

BuxomBeauty
07-19-2009, 11:02 AM
Haha, I was referring to what's usually a stack of maybe $20-30 in $1s. I just can't see how a guy could possibly think a small stack like that of what is clearly $1s is anything close to a "lot" of money. Really??

Maybe I am overly cynical, but I think guys who insist any stack of small bills is a lot of money are just being assholes in one way or another. lol

CherryBomb954
07-19-2009, 03:45 PM
I just wanted to add too, now that we are on the subject, that I have had alot of guys reveal that they are under the impression we get paid hourly (kind of like a server, where it's a reduced hourly wage+tips)

I know in some states this is the case, so some guys must assume it's like that everywhere.

I also think that alot of guys simply just don't think about these things. Of course we think about them, cause we are the ones trying to make a living in this industry.

I am sure there are alot of guys who have complex thought processes while in the midst of these acts were are discussing, but ALOT just simply don't think about it. Especially when alcohol is involved.....for alot of people it completely erases their rationality.... therefore the first thing that comes to their mind is what they do, be it stupid or not.

Kind of like people who have no idea what to tip a waiter. After so many years of experience in that industry and getting pissed at people for leaving me a dollar on a high tab, I came to learn that alot of people just don't know! Sad, you would think knowing how to tip a waiter would be a basic knowledge that most people would acquire by adulthood.:shrug:

Pretty_Penny
07-19-2009, 05:20 PM
^While I do think there are some guys who don't know... I also feel that a lot of them -do- know and -pretend- that they don't. I'm sure the MAJORITY of customers understands that we work on "tips and tips alone".

hot4ablackchick
07-19-2009, 11:01 PM
^I agree. Some guys don't know we have to pay, but pretty much all of them know we live off tips/LD money. Speaking of cheap asses, I had a decent Friday, but left with $0 profit after house fee and DJ tipout. Zero dollars, because I'm so pretty that I don't need money apparently. I really hope they take prettiness at the local Wal mart.

Pretty_Penny
07-20-2009, 09:35 AM
^I agree. Some guys don't know we have to pay, but pretty much all of them know we live off tips/LD money. Speaking of cheap asses, I had a decent Friday, but left with $0 profit after house fee and DJ tipout. Zero dollars, because I'm so pretty that I don't need money apparently. I really hope they take prettiness at the local Wal mart.

LOL. Yeah, occasionally I'll have a guy say something like "you're too smart/nice/etc for me to do that to you" (and by "do that" they mean get dances). I'm always like "Oh ok, could you please call my landlord and tell her that I'm too ____ to pay my rent?"

misslizzy
07-20-2009, 07:53 PM
That's why I never approach groups until I have seen every guy in the group get at least one dance. I can't say how many times I have been the first girl too approach a group, and then have to stand there and feel like an idiot as they try to pass me off to one another "You go, no you, no you get one, no you!"

Does this work? I usually just join in the light making-fun of that accompanies this, until someone gets a dance, or pays me to take his buddy.


I swear to god, sometimes when they start that shit about "why is it so dead?" and "where is everyone" I want to flat out say "why do you need other dudes in here in order to have fun around naked women??????????????"

fuck it, I think I will today.

LOL I am so doing this.

CherryBomb954
07-21-2009, 02:54 AM
Does this work? I usually just join in the light making-fun of that accompanies this, until someone gets a dance, or pays me to take his buddy.

It works for me because I have a very low tolerance for that kind of crap. If your can stand there and take it until someone gets a dance, then go for it. You have a thicker skin than I!

Basically,I do what works for me and approach situations as suited for my needs. Every girl is different.

misslizzy
07-21-2009, 11:54 AM
^^ I feel ya. There are definitely times when I decide they're just wasting my time, and I'm like, "Well, you guys just let me know when you figure it all out!" and walk away.

ViolaStrings
07-21-2009, 12:13 PM
I'm just rude to guys who shoo me off or don't spend money. When I ask "Would you like some company?" and they say "No, I'm good" I reply "No you're not, that's why you're here". When they agree to let me sit down, but don't want me to dance, I say "Why do you think I sat down? To have a tea party with you?". The teasing but not mean thing works for me. Kind of snaps them out of it.

bexxx
07-21-2009, 02:51 PM
I just read this whole thread and it really was so depressing lol. When will the economy ever get better :(

Pretty_Penny
07-21-2009, 06:33 PM
I just read this whole thread and it really was so depressing lol. When will the economy ever get better :(

It's not -just- the economy. The industry itself is on a decline. Unless a lot of changes are made to adapt, it will just keep getting worse. Strip clubs are becoming more of a "regular night club". Some areas are still doing ok, Vegas is always an exception, but most cities are suffering. Customers simply do not have the mindset that they "need" to spend money or are "supposed" to spend money on the dancers anymore. In fact, for many of them the objective is to try NOT to. Blame the movies, music tv shows, etc that portray what we do as a scam. Customers are far more defensive than they used to be.

"A bitch can't get a dollar out of me".

I mean come on, I'm sure most of you saw that "how NOT to spend money in a strip club" guide that was posted in customer conversation. It was deleted, but I promise you the OP is not alone in his beliefs. There are plenty of customers who think they are "winning the game" by spending as little as possible during their visit. A low opinion of dancers and an over estimated belief in what we all make is what keeps them from feeling "guilty".

The crappy economy coupled with that type of customer mind-set means this:
The nice respectful customers who simply can't afford to go out to strip clubs right now, aren't going. Why? because they don't feel comfortable walking in without money to spend. The customers who don't give a shit about spending money on the dancers are still coming in. So, we've noticed an "increase" in cheap asshole customers. I don't think it's because there are "more" of them per say... I just think it's because there are less -spending- customers, so we "notice" these guys a whole lot more.

CherryBomb954
07-21-2009, 08:48 PM
^
Oh man I SWEAR it's like you read my mind sometimes. I try to explain how I feel about the "decline" of the indusrty and the dynamics of it, and I find myself struggling with words, cause I just can't get it out. THAT is a perfect synopsis.

It's especially hard trying to explain the "decline" to friends who have never been a dancer or frequented clubs. Almost all of my friends (girls and guys) just don't understand why I stopped making money, or anyone else for that matter.
...."but you are so hot? I don't understand" Is what I always get and it's so hard to try to make them understand that it takes alot more then just being hot. As a matter of fact being physically fit and clean looking caused me alot of grief at my last club.

I don't mean this in the wrong way, but I have almost "enjoyed" this thread.....of course I mean in no way to make light of the crappy situation you had to deal with, but I feel like we have similar minds so I hope you'll get what I mean.

I thought the thread developed into an interesting discussion.

audrey_k
07-22-2009, 04:53 AM
It's not -just- the economy. The industry itself is on a decline. Unless a lot of changes are made to adapt, it will just keep getting worse. Strip clubs are becoming more of a "regular night club". Some areas are still doing ok, Vegas is always an exception, but most cities are suffering. Customers simply do not have the mindset that they "need" to spend money or are "supposed" to spend money on the dancers anymore. In fact, for many of them the objective is to try NOT to. Blame the movies, music tv shows, etc that portray what we do as a scam. Customers are far more defensive than they used to be.

"A bitch can't get a dollar out of me".

I mean come on, I'm sure most of you saw that "how NOT to spend money in a strip club" guide that was posted in customer conversation. It was deleted, but I promise you the OP is not alone in his beliefs. There are plenty of customers who think they are "winning the game" by spending as little as possible during their visit. A low opinion of dancers and an over estimated belief in what we all make is what keeps them from feeling "guilty".

The crappy economy coupled with that type of customer mind-set means this:
The nice respectful customers who simply can't afford to go out to strip clubs right now, aren't going. Why? because they don't feel comfortable walking in without money to spend. The customers who don't give a shit about spending money on the dancers are still coming in. So, we've noticed an "increase" in cheap asshole customers. I don't think it's because there are "more" of them per say... I just think it's because there are less -spending- customers, so we "notice" these guys a whole lot more.

I agree with this. Getting guys to pay for anything is like twisting their arms off, and when they finally agree to you're then haggling over the prices afterward. I have a guy do 2 2-4-1s and a single a few days ago. Afterwards he was trying to convince me it should be $80 for the dances (it's $120). I wanted to be like motherfucker you just saved $80 and got two free songs! Don't short me the price for dances for god's sake, there should be a tip in there! (I did not get one, needless to say).

I get guys telling me "it's 40 for a dance? well uhm... how about $30?" This pisses me off to no extent. This is not a negotiation. The numbers go UP, not down.

To a PL who asked me "40 bucks for a dance? what the hell! that's crazy expensive. what can I get for ten?" I responded "you can buy a water that I will drink in the dressing room."

Pretty_Penny
07-22-2009, 09:57 AM
^Part of the problem with dance price negotiation is that it IS common/accepted practice at some clubs. At my club you will get FIRED for changing dance prices, but at some of the other clubs in the city, dancers are allowed to set their own price. So, this means I get customers who don't believe me when I say I can't. I personally don't think any club should have started allowing it. It further leads to the perception that there's some sort of "scamming" going on. Not to mention it trains customers to seek the most-for-the-least.

All of that being said, it's been so bad lately that I HAVE made a couple deals. One time I came off stage for the 2-4-1 (it's 2 songs for 20 bucks). I walked up to a guy who seemed interested in me (kept watching me) and asked if he'd like the 2-4-1. I told him it was 20 bucks, he took out his wallet, literally counted out all the money he had left in it... which came to 17 bucks. He said "I only have 17" so I said "We have an ATM *wink*" to which he replied "My bank account is negative" to which I said "17 bucks it is" and did the dance.

Normally I'd walk away, but I was pretty desperate.

Another time I was sitting on 0 dollars and a customer (one of only 3 in the club at the time) came up to me and asked me if I could do 3 dances for 50 bucks. I did it because I knew if I said no he'd just go to another girl.. and one of them would eventually say yes. I know that I shouldnt, esp given how I feel about it, but *shrug* whatareyougonnado.

Elusive21
07-22-2009, 10:58 AM
For example, I have this conversation (in general) every single day:

Customer: When does it pick up in here?
Me: Oh, it just depends
Customer: So, like, around 11pm?
Me: Every day is different really, but we're here now! we should have some fun!
Customer: so weekends are busier?
Me: sometimes, depending on what type of events are going on in town. (Then I usually mention I love the song playing, or my clothes are too hot and I need to get out of them stat, or whatever else to try and gear the convo back to dances).
Customer: so the economy is hitting you guys hard here too huh?
Me: Eh, it effects everyone, but.......
Customer: It must be hard for you girls to make money.

etc etc etc.

I swear to god, sometimes when they start that shit about "why is it so dead?" and "where is everyone" I want to flat out say "why do you need other dudes in here in order to have fun around naked women??????????????"

fuck it, I think I will today.


Penny, dudes that say this are the kind of guys that just want to be reassured that NO ONE is spending any money so that they don't feel bad about not spending any money either. This way they can go home not having spent even $20 but having watched all the naked girls, without feeling bad. Yep - that's just how they are and that is why as soon as I hear those lines from a custy I just excuse myself and go and talk to a different guy. (It sucks though that you still had to talk to him because your manager was there).

Guys that like to spend time w/ gorgeous girls and spend money on them never (or hardly ever) complain about how dead it is. One of my regulars always comes in on a day when it's not busy for the first few hours that I spend with him (sometime he's the only guy in the club for an hour or more) and he never complains, he's happy that he's spending time with me, he doesn't care about what else is going on around him.

Pretty_Penny
07-22-2009, 07:26 PM
^Yeah, none of my regulars have ever given a damn if it was busy or not.

CherryBomb954
07-23-2009, 12:34 AM
^Yeah, none of my regulars have ever given a damn if it was busy or not.


Yep, mine neither.

Too bad all of them fell to the wayside either from job loss/cut hours or an overwhelming urge to switch to extras girls.

Pretty_Penny
07-23-2009, 10:03 AM
^Yeah. I've lost nearly all my regulars to one or the other. That and expensive divorces.

JoJoX
07-23-2009, 11:41 AM
I get the same shit all of the time.

audrey_k
07-23-2009, 04:01 PM
^Part of the problem with dance price negotiation is that it IS common/accepted practice at some clubs. At my club you will get FIRED for changing dance prices, but at some of the other clubs in the city, dancers are allowed to set their own price. So, this means I get customers who don't believe me when I say I can't. I personally don't think any club should have started allowing it. It further leads to the perception that there's some sort of "scamming" going on. Not to mention it trains customers to seek the most-for-the-least.

All of that being said, it's been so bad lately that I HAVE made a couple deals. One time I came off stage for the 2-4-1 (it's 2 songs for 20 bucks). I walked up to a guy who seemed interested in me (kept watching me) and asked if he'd like the 2-4-1. I told him it was 20 bucks, he took out his wallet, literally counted out all the money he had left in it... which came to 17 bucks. He said "I only have 17" so I said "We have an ATM *wink*" to which he replied "My bank account is negative" to which I said "17 bucks it is" and did the dance.

Normally I'd walk away, but I was pretty desperate.

Another time I was sitting on 0 dollars and a customer (one of only 3 in the club at the time) came up to me and asked me if I could do 3 dances for 50 bucks. I did it because I knew if I said no he'd just go to another girl.. and one of them would eventually say yes. I know that I shouldnt, esp given how I feel about it, but *shrug* whatareyougonnado.

Depending on tipping out we take 18-23 from our $40 dances.. so negotiating deals just never feels worth it to me.

I have negotiated on VIPs, which are $600 but we get fired as well so I was really nervous about it. In the end it didn't make much difference because I managed to work out decent tips, but I agree on the scamming aspect. Guys sometimes tell me the prices change, but I know they also lie to see if you'll come down for them. My CLUB changed the VIPs from $400-600 and guys still complain about prices changing and being scammed.

CKXXX
07-23-2009, 08:40 PM
It's like having a job with a company that offers killer benefits but no paycheck.


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Thats so perfectly put! Great comparison. I love the job also..in theory...but without the money it just isnt worth it. I can laugh all the way to the bank at every guy who talks down to me, tries to grab on me,or is otherwise a rude asshole PL,dancer drama, shitheel managers,etc......WHEN I'M MAKING MONEY. When I'm struggling to break $100,or leaving in the red...ALL those other things are amplified and are so much worse. Money is the salve that makes all the other things not burn as badly. But no salve = Cameron leaves the club burning every night until I start to feel homicidal.

I havent danced in months...since @ January I think. I really need the money(webcam has been SLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWW...and I'm not getting nearly enough shoots to pay the bills. Esp since its summer and thats always the slow season for shooting porn and I'm scary behind on my bills...house is in foreclosure AGAIN),but I get a lump in my throat and my guts start to twist at the thought of walking back into the club.

CherryBomb954
07-24-2009, 04:13 PM
Thats so perfectly put! Great comparison. I love the job also..in theory...but without the money it just isnt worth it. I can laugh all the way to the bank at every guy who talks down to me, tries to grab on me,or is otherwise a rude asshole PL,dancer drama, shitheel managers,etc......WHEN I'M MAKING MONEY. When I'm struggling to break $100,or leaving in the red...ALL those other things are amplified and are so much worse..

I'm the same way. Back in the winter when I was doing extremely well, I had a level head about shit. I was the one consoling/calming down other dancers who had a shitty night and a customer fucked with them.

Then it all just ended. Suddenly. There was no tapering-off.....it literally just stopped one day. The last night I had worked before it I'd made about $400 (which is good for my town in June)...the next night I came in I made $20 and the entire month of July I made about $200 total.

Customers seemed to get worse.....but did they? Or was it just my tolerance and feeling suicidal cause I couldn't break a buck to save my life??

Otoki
07-24-2009, 08:38 PM
Thats so perfectly put! Great comparison. I love the job also..in theory...but without the money it just isnt worth it. I can laugh all the way to the bank at every guy who talks down to me, tries to grab on me,or is otherwise a rude asshole PL,dancer drama, shitheel managers,etc......WHEN I'M MAKING MONEY. When I'm struggling to break $100,or leaving in the red...ALL those other things are amplified and are so much worse. Money is the salve that makes all the other things not burn as badly. But no salve = Cameron leaves the club burning every night until I start to feel homicidal.

I havent danced in months...since @ January I think. I really need the money(webcam has been SLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWW...and I'm not getting nearly enough shoots to pay the bills. Esp since its summer and thats always the slow season for shooting porn and I'm scary behind on my bills...house is in foreclosure AGAIN),but I get a lump in my throat and my guts start to twist at the thought of walking back into the club.
Can you travel? If you can travel to a nearby state/city and not deal with the stupid shit as much, it could be worthwhile. Even if you only go for three days a month, if it's a decent club you should be walking with at least 300 a shift.

CKXXX
07-25-2009, 01:45 PM
Can you travel? If you can travel to a nearby state/city and not deal with the stupid shit as much, it could be worthwhile. Even if you only go for three days a month, if it's a decent club you should be walking with at least 300 a shift.

I've traveled all over the country. Isnt worth it after expenses to leave home. Rarely worth it anyway.

BuxomBeauty
07-26-2009, 04:07 AM
Some areas are still doing ok, Vegas is always an exception, but most cities are suffering.
No Vegas is NOT an exception. It sucks balls in Vegas now, just as bad as anywhere else, if not worse.

I wonder when people will get it through their heads: Vegas is no exception. It is a tourist town with an economy almost entirely based on tourism and leisure spending. When the economy goes to hell, the FIRST thing to suffer is......TOURISM AND LEISURE SPENDING.

The city of Las Vegas is reporting one of the highest unemployment rates in the country. Local LV strippers are working practically every night of the week and having several nights in a row of ZERO profit.

I am sorry if I come off bitchy here, but it annoys me endlessly when girls keep saying Vegas is an exception or there's always money in Vegas, etc. Please, stop.

Otoki
07-26-2009, 02:03 PM
Nevermind

Pretty_Penny
07-26-2009, 03:12 PM
No Vegas is NOT an exception. It sucks balls in Vegas now, just as bad as anywhere else, if not worse.

I wonder when people will get it through their heads: Vegas is no exception. It is a tourist town with an economy almost entirely based on tourism and leisure spending. When the economy goes to hell, the FIRST thing to suffer is......TOURISM AND LEISURE SPENDING.

The city of Las Vegas is reporting one of the highest unemployment rates in the country. Local LV strippers are working practically every night of the week and having several nights in a row of ZERO profit.

I am sorry if I come off bitchy here, but it annoys me endlessly when girls keep saying Vegas is an exception or there's always money in Vegas, etc. Please, stop.

You could have set it with a little less oomph.. but I get the point.

Also, my assumption of that is because of girls on here who STILL talk about banking in vegas. *shrug*

CherryBomb954
07-26-2009, 08:59 PM
Also, my assumption of that is because of girls on here who STILL talk about banking in vegas. *shrug*


Most of them probably have a solid base of regulars, that they have had for years, OR , they are also escorting/prostututing (whatever)

I don't think anyone who is a run-of-the-mill dancer (meaning not a super experienced, living Barbie Doll hustler with a harem of regulars or is also a prostitute and offers those services in additon to dancing) is doing well in Vegas. Especially newbies. I feel sorry for new girls who flock to Vegas in droves looking to "live the dream" only to get shut down pretty hard and leave with 0 profit and a newly acquired self esteem issues.

I posted in "Overheard in the dressing room" a while ago about two clueless, high/drunk, not very attractive girls talking about how they were gonna high tail it out of Arizona and head to Vegas a.s.a.p to make "$10,000 in one week!!" Sad. Just....sad.

MarvelGirl
07-26-2009, 09:14 PM
^^^
ROFL, I saw that about Vegas. Everyone is an expert on Vegas, especially if they came here once for a weekend and never left their casino.

firemaiden04
07-26-2009, 11:34 PM
Am I the only stripper who has never been to Vegas?

Pretty_Penny
07-27-2009, 09:23 AM
Am I the only stripper who has never been to Vegas?

Hardly. It's a very small percentage.

BuxomBeauty
07-27-2009, 12:09 PM
There are girls on here still talking about banking in Vegas? Really? I haven't seen that, but I have seen a lot of local Vegas girls talking about how hard it is to make money...

misslizzy
07-28-2009, 11:48 AM
Am I the only stripper who has never been to Vegas?

Nope. Never been, no interest. I think most strippers probably never dance outside of the city they started in, and most of the ones who have gone elsewhere can count two cities in the list of places they've danced.

sorsi
07-28-2009, 11:54 AM
Am I the only stripper who has never been to Vegas?

I've never been to Vegas, and TBH I have no interest in ever going, as a dancer or a tourist. :shrug:

Otoki
07-28-2009, 02:13 PM
Am I the only stripper who has never been to Vegas?
Not at all. I've never been, as a visitor or a stripper. I'd like to visit sometime, but I'm not comfortable going on paper as an "entertainer" with a license. I don't know if that would bite me in the ass later on.

Winged Dinghy
07-28-2009, 08:36 PM
Money is the salve that makes all the other things not burn as badly.

That is beautifully put as well. And my experience has been the same as just about everyone else who posted in this thread. That's why I haven't worked in the clubs in three months. I've been doing a bunch of random work: a few bachelor parties, topless housecleaning, fetish nights. Anything to stay out of the clubs, because making crap money isn't just stressful and frustrating, it's corrosive to the psyche. It makes me feel, literally, worthless.

Prisoner201181
07-29-2009, 03:31 AM
Oh I know. The shitty part is, the jobs I can probably most easily get are tech support/call center jobs.. and all of them want you to have a completely open schedule. Which, is impossible for me because of school. The thing is even those "menial" places have TONS of applicants to choose from and unfortunately they tend to choose out-of-high-school kids with no other commitments. A lot of people (self included) are in a tough spot right now because they're desperate, but overqualified, for most "trivial" jobs. They are also underqualified for a job in the field they are pursuing long-term because they're still in, or right out of, college. It's a frustrating in between phase that unfortunately leaves a lot of people unemployed... or stuck doing something they hate.

I went back to a "regular job" and have been doing so for 7 months, I work as a pharmacy technician. Unfortunately it barely pays my bills and leaves little to nothing left for school, meaning loans, which I don't want to go there again or grants. Also, it gets old, don't get me wrong I am happy as heck to have the job, but sometimes I miss dancing. That's why I'm going to put on my 7 in. heels again for 2 days in Myrtle Beach before my vacation ;D!

It helps to know someone that has similar interests as the job you want, or if your in school ask about intern oppurtunities related to your major. You may not get paid, but you'll be more satisfied and dread your job a bit less.

At my "regular" job though they've done away with breaks completely except for the 30 min lunch break. Other than that it's 8 straight hours of people trying to get their drugs and insurance companies trying to not cover them! It's more exhausting than you'd think. It's Florida, it's the fourth most populous state and there are a lot of old people. There is always at least two things to do when you only have time for one!

Prisoner201181
07-29-2009, 03:40 AM
Am I the only stripper who has never been to Vegas?
Nope I've never been, I was in the airport once, but wasn't even 21 LOL. I got invited to go, but I was 20 at the time and by the time I turned 21 my friends that went had taken a dancing hiatus.

Apparently it was all sand and money and alcohol there though, but who konws now, that was a few years back. Now it could be like a city full of "Leaving Las Vegas" stereotypes. Which would be depressing.

I'm hoping Myrtle Beach is decent. It's not season, but I've noticed many Floridians who travel to the mountains of NC over summer feel obligated to stop there, it's like a tourist trap you just have to stop and see even if you dont care that much. So hopefully someone with bank will stop and see while I'm there! Fingers crossed!

CKXXX
07-29-2009, 02:42 PM
That is beautifully put as well. And my experience has been the same as just about everyone else who posted in this thread. That's why I haven't worked in the clubs in three months. I've been doing a bunch of random work: a few bachelor parties, topless housecleaning, fetish nights. Anything to stay out of the clubs, because making crap money isn't just stressful and frustrating, it's corrosive to the psyche. It makes me feel, literally, worthless.
Me too. I havent been to the clubs since Jan. Mentally (and physically since my health has been declining a bit lately), I just cant deal with it for no real profit. I've been shooting (and yes..I'd rather fly out to LA for weeks to shoot then be in the club),doing webcam..stuff like that.

In Strip City theres a great line where she says (I dont have it in front of me so I'm paraphrasing here) that a bad night stripping is a million times worse then a bad day/night in any other job. Because you get that feeling like "If I cant do THIS...what chance do I have". She's so right.

I can DO the job. I can handle it...I did it for 8 years...and I'm good at it. So when I have night after night after night of abuse and no money...it kills me.
It's different if the job itself just isnt for you...not everyone is made for this work. But I WAS. I did it well. And i think (even though I know it isnt true,but I cant help it) that so many people look at the adult industry as a last resort. Like...well if I cant do anything else..at least I can do THIS and make a bunch of money.

Without the bunches of money...it isnt worth it to me.

CherryBomb954
07-29-2009, 04:32 PM
Anything to stay out of the clubs, because making crap money isn't just stressful and frustrating, it's corrosive to the psyche. It makes me feel, literally, worthless.

"Corrosive to the psyche" is exactly how I feel. Also worthless. A friend was asking me the other day why I am not going back to the club. There are alot of reasons but most of all I am sick of the bipolar-ness of it. Meaning if I have a bad week, where I work 3-4 days and make no money, and have people fuck with me, I am a mental wreck, crying, stressed out...and if I have a good week (like I'd been having for months straight before July) I'm on top of the world. Being so broke I can't afford little things like new shoe laces.....makes me want to fucking die. Being tight on money is ome thing....most people are nowadays.....but being so broke you're down to taking change to the Coinstar to eat....fuck that. I cannot TAKE living that way. If I stayed at that club, we'd be living that way for sure.

I hate when people say that's "The nature of the business!! If you can't deal with it get out!" True....to a point. Cause when it was good for me, it was good ALL the time. I'd have one bad night in the middle of 100. Totally easy to deal with. It's different when you have mostly bad nights and 1 good night in the middle. That's pretty much how it was for me for a month straight and it ruined me. Then when the raid at my club happened....final nail on the coffin.



I can DO the job. I can handle it...I did it for 8 years...and I'm good at it. So when I have night after night after night of abuse and no money...it kills me.


Yeah.....I really don't think it's about having the ability to DO the job. I have it, too. What I (we) don't have the ability to do is take abuse and leaving with no $$ night, after night, after night. I give props (well kinda) to people who have a "thick skin" so to speak, and keep coming back night after night and are still smiling, whatever....but I don't GET it. Why do it? Why not go somewhere else if you have the ability to do so? I saw girls like that at my last club. Leaving night after night with less then $20 or owing house fee and they are always just like "Oh well, tomorrow's another day?" with a smile, while I'd be in shambles planning to DO SOMETHING about it. WHY???? I know that most of those girls weren't banned from other clubs like myself and could easily go to them. Do they not want something better? Or is it just a matter of being too high/drunk to care....or just not care in general? Ugh.

I have a new job and make $7.50 an hour. I am happier than a pig in shit right now, and am making more then most people at that club. Sad.

audrey_k
07-29-2009, 07:34 PM
^Because there is no magic club to run to to make money... girls working in the best clubs in the best cities are still not making money.

I have had strings of bad nights and still gone in with a smile through the end of my shift and just burst into tears the moment I was sure the bouncer was far enough away from my car. If you're not going to be able to go into work pretending everything peachy don't go into work at all, you aren't going to make any money.