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Gia2608
07-24-2009, 07:10 PM
Um, a new bf or gf, not right away. A potential husband or wife, absolutely they have a right to know!

shy1
07-24-2009, 07:31 PM
I'm not trying to argue, but other than sharing all of yourself with someone you love, is there an ethical requirement if you have tested clean and don't pose a threat to their health? I would say no, myself.

Earl_the_Pearl
07-24-2009, 09:00 PM
Um, a new bf or gf, not right away. A potential husband or wife, absolutely they have a right to know!
Know what that you are not a virgin?

You are a big girl and I'm a big boy; we have seen people do that which would make a sailor blush and they did not die. They didn't ever throw up; well there was that one girl but that was the Hennessy. ::)

mediocrity
07-25-2009, 02:56 PM
Know what that you are not a virgin?

You are a big girl and I'm a big boy; we have seen people do that which would make a sailor blush and they did not die. They didn't ever throw up; well there was that one girl but that was the Hennessy. ::)

What the hell are you talking about?

Otoki
08-06-2009, 10:57 AM
Wow, the lack of medical knowledge makes me understand why there are so many idiots who still don't use proper protection. Apparently people just latch on to whatever sounds good and run with it.

And I think it's awesome that EtP wants to round up all the HIV + people and put them in a concentration camp. I mean quarantine.

Jake39
08-12-2009, 08:43 PM
There are lots of extras girls at the club I frequent and many are careless so one wonders about their HIV status. A friend of mine who is VIP like I am got syphillis from unprotected sex with a girl he did in CR. He is not sure which one bc he was doing practically a different one every time over a period of months. He ended up infecting his wife and a young 20 yr old girl from his work. She had to cancel her planned church wedding bc the infection hit her really hard and she had to be hospitalized-something about rapidly spreading red welts or sores on her along with high temp - she almost died. Another fellow told me over coffee he unintentionally had unprotected sex with a dancer / escort when the condom came off during foreplay on an airmattress at his trailer. He did not know this then realized she was using vaginal fluid to lubricate her hands as he heard a strange sound as she reached in for lube. While it inititially scared him he decided what the hey and did her without a condom bc he wanted the thrill of coming in her. He does not think it was risky bc she told him "my clients don't do $30 whores." He started seeing her regularly but used condoms just to be safe - she told him "I prefer my clients use condoms." While there is a diffeence between prefer and require, he found her comment reassuring. Word of caution: If getting HJ from extras gal, be sure you are aware of what she is using for lube LOL.

MsLayne
08-12-2009, 09:10 PM
^^^^^^ O-M-G!!! I don't even know what to say to that.

Earl_the_Pearl
08-12-2009, 11:01 PM
There are lots of extras girls at the club I frequent and many are careless so one wonders about their HIV status. A friend of mine who is VIP like I am got syphillis from unprotected sex with a girl he did in CR. He is not sure which one bc he was doing practically a different one every time over a period of months. He ended up infecting his wife and a young 20 yr old girl from his work....

Another fellow told me over coffee he unintentionally had unprotected sex with a dancer / escort when the condom came off during foreplay on an airmattress at his trailer. He did not know this then realized she was using vaginal fluid to lubricate her hands as he heard a strange sound as she reached in for lube. While it inititially scared him he decided what the hey and did her without a condom bc he wanted the thrill of coming in her....

If getting HJ from extras gal, be sure you are aware of what she is using for lube LOL.
Exactly, regular VD is common among providers but HIV is not except for the ones that are IV drug users.

The biggest danger of not using a condom is having to pay child support for 23 years. Unwanted pregnancy is still quite common wile HIV is not.

A word of caution about vaginal fluid; it may cause one to have a blocked pore on one's chin; especially if she is ovulating and extremely wet as she sits on one's face and grinds heavily. :yummy:

Jake39
08-13-2009, 05:49 PM
I would agree HIV is not common except among IV drug users but aren't these usually street whores. How easy is it to spot them?

I have been really scared lately by seeing gals on stage while up to tip them that look like they have syphillis discolorations on their legs. Skinny gals also scare me especially if they have the look of death in their eyes.

I use condoms with gals I do in VIP, but am now concentrating on this one gal I have been seeing a year due to both safety and her superior performance. She is married, a really wonderful lady, and I think of the married ones prob being safer vs some of the single ones doing lots of guys. She insists on condom use which I have no prob with. I do wonder if there are many other guys she also does besides hubby (who just thinks she gives lap dances she says). Since we have been at 2x a week for a few months now, I don't c how there could be.

Gia2608
08-13-2009, 06:10 PM
Know what that you are not a virgin?

You are a big girl and I'm a big boy; we have seen people do that which would make a sailor blush and they did not die. They didn't ever throw up; well there was that one girl but that was the Hennessy. ::)


If you are going to MARRY a person I think they would have the right to know if you are a former prostitute or escort or iv drug user or if you are man that used to have sex with men or that you're a woman who used to be in a Tiajuana Donkey Show or that when you were in college you used to engage in drug-induced unprotected orgies.

If you are in the early stages of dating someone you don't have to give up this info if the fact is that you a) did these things and b) have tested clean for six months.

But I am basing this opinion that if you are in the early (getting to know you) stages of a relationship, you are using protection. I'm not naive enough to think this is the reality a lot of the time.

Jake39
08-13-2009, 06:30 PM
There is no doubt that sex is dangerous but the serological HIV status of a partner can change at any time. Joe Wonderful may indeed be safe but that can change at anytime he decides to get some strange and see a hooker or barfly. I have thought a liscensing system someone is free of Herpes, Syph, HIV would be a good idea but that would only be good at a point in time. It scares me to think of all the dangerous stuff out there one can catch. I have concerns that HPV could possibly cause prostrate cancer and probably would use concoms with a wife even. My doctor has mentioned this and says "a man should use these all the time." The truth be known women probably prefer condoms as cleanup is easier.....

I would thnk it grossly immoral for a man who has had all kinda street whores not be tested and to pretend to be like a choir boy with his wife to be. However, I am sure this happens a lot. It is one thing to take risks with oneself but to subject the one who you would take holy matrimony with to this?

WiseGuy_TX
08-13-2009, 06:40 PM
I would agree HIV is not common except among IV drug users but aren't these usually street whores. How easy is it to spot them?

I have been really scared lately by seeing gals on stage while up to tip them that look like they have syphillis discolorations on their legs. Skinny gals also scare me especially if they have the look of death in their eyes.

I use condoms with gals I do in VIP, but am now concentrating on this one gal I have been seeing a year due to both safety and her superior performance. She is married, a really wonderful lady, and I think of the married ones prob being safer vs some of the single ones doing lots of guys. She insists on condom use which I have no prob with. I do wonder if there are many other guys she also does besides hubby (who just thinks she gives lap dances she says). Since we have been at 2x a week for a few months now, I don't c how there could be.


There is no doubt that sex is dangerous but the serological HIV status of a partner can change at any time. Joe Wonderful may indeed be safe but that can change at anytime he decides to get some strange and see a hooker or barfly. I have thought a liscensing system someone is free of Herpes, Syph, HIV would be a good idea but that would only be good at a point in time. It scares me to think of all the dangerous stuff out there one can catch. I have concerns that HPV could possibly cause prostrate cancer and probably would use concoms with a wife even. My doctor has mentioned this and says "a man should use these all the time." The truth be known women probably prefer condoms as cleanup is easier........"Derek" has returned to the forum. Sorry dude, your "top gun" gave it away before you could delete it.

Jake39
08-13-2009, 08:24 PM
..."Derek" has returned to the forum. Sorry dude, your "top gun" gave it away before you could delete it.

I have read your posts WiseGuy and I LMAO at your handle - its obvious to me your not getting any....Call me a Top Gun if you like, you sound like a flight school washout.

Sorry, but to me the SC hobby is not just about getting dances.

WiseGuy_TX
08-13-2009, 08:53 PM
I have read your posts WiseGuy and I LMAO at your handle - its obvious to me your not getting any....Call me a Top Gun if you like, you sound like a flight school washout.

Sorry, but to me the SC hobby is not just about getting dances....be careful dude, if ya keep inviting those dancers to your house near Kemah they will steal your wooden nickel collection. BTW, have you been tested recently for HIV?

Otoki
08-16-2009, 06:42 PM
..."Derek" has returned to the forum. Sorry dude, your "top gun" gave it away before you could delete it.
Details.

xdamage
08-16-2009, 07:05 PM
...be careful dude, if ya keep inviting those dancers to your house near Kemah they will steal your wooden nickel collection. BTW, have you been tested recently for HIV?

TopGuns dont need to bother with that. You know their mottos. Live fast! Never pass on a free Strip Club buffet! Never pay more then $100 a trick!

With a life expectancy of 5 years at best, why bother wasting perfectly good money on STD testing?

charlygirl
08-18-2009, 01:23 AM
Remember that topic where dancers on Stripperweb were saying they putting their own juices behnd their ears in the club to attracted customers? (gross) Could you catch something from coming into contact with that?

Otoki
08-18-2009, 08:29 AM
Remember that topic where dancers on Stripperweb were saying they putting their own juices behnd their ears in the club to attracted customers? (gross) Could you catch something from coming into contact with that?
I don't really see how a customer would come in contact with that, unless they're licking behind the dancer's ears. What a horrible mental image.

Golden_Rule
08-18-2009, 01:34 PM
...there are statistics on chances of infection as number of partners increase. Dancers, management, barflys and regulars know which girls give high risk extras in their club. Odds are some high risk extras girls and regulars will contract HIV just as sharing needles greatly increases the odds. Girls will still "dance" not knowing they are infected. Without insurance paying for medicine, odds are those few will not be here 2-10 years from now.

Its almost like the high risk dancers and their regular customers are silently treated as the club lepers. ...imo.

http://www.southbendtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090711/News01/907110330/1130
"18-month cap on jail time likely for dancer with HIV."

http://www.beonecity.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=539
http://www.aegis.com/news/sc/1999/SC990801.html
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/895/what-are-the-odds-of-getting-aids-from-ordinary-heterosexual-sex

Might I point out that information as old as the stuff you are presenting above is as bad as disinformation sometimes.



thats so sad.

this is why no girl should do extras, why put yourself at risk for a piece of change? its not worth it.

and i HATE how guys always pressure me to do extras, i would never even think about it. i mean what if a dancer had something, they're gonna go home and give it to their wife?

Certainly can't disagree with the above. Safest sex is abstinence but lets get real, how many people abstain all the time? The fact is some people, for whatever reasons and whether those reasons be right or wrong, are going to have sex and sometimes it commercial sex. That's just acknowledging reality. One can hope they are taking precautions. Judging them doesn't help the situation one bit.

And pressure from ANYONE is nothing more than an inconvenience unless you differ from the rest of us in the ability to control what your body does and how it does it. I am NOT suggesting that guys should pressure dancers for extras. What I am suggesting is blaming that pressuring for anyone's particular behavior is placing the responsibility in the wrong place.

The only person responsible for their specific behavior is that person themselves.


There's a guy who comes into the clubs down here and asks all the girls to sleep with him with no condom and supposedly tells them :"I'm clean and have papers to prove it.

And NOT suggesting anyone should do anything other than laugh at this guy BUT, for the purpose of keeping things real, if the papers are legit and he hasn't had new sexual contact post testing in 90 days [actually 30 is probably sufficient but 90 takes care of the small percentage that don't have antigens show up in the first 30 days] then he's telling the truth from a medical perspective.

WiseGuy_TX
08-18-2009, 06:00 PM
Might I point out that information as old as the stuff you are presenting above is as bad as disinformation sometimes....we are waiting for you to point it out with facts not opinions.

CherryBomb954
08-18-2009, 06:57 PM
I use condoms with gals I do in VIP.

I am never this mean Jake, but I can't help it this time.....

Hooray for you!!! At least your penis won't rot off! I wouldn't wish that on you. But you deserve to have your ass kicked at least.

But hey THANKS BUDDY! Thank you.....for contributing to the downfall of the industry. You and the fucking extras girls you solicit.

Yay for you. And once again THANKS!!

I hope one day you get yourself together and no longer have to pay an extras girl in a SC to get off.. I really mean that. Best wishes to you buddy.

Golden_Rule
08-18-2009, 09:23 PM
...we are waiting for you to point it out with facts not opinions.

The only thing I implied is that old information in a scientific area that is experiencing rapid change due to large investments of capital allowing for much scientific investigation is just that, OLD.

The facts are listed in the dating in the very links you provided. 1999, 1988, etc. Nothing newer than 10 years old and much older than that.

WiseGuy_TX
08-18-2009, 10:00 PM
The only thing I implied is that old information in a scientific area that is experiencing rapid change due to large investments of capital allowing for much scientific investigation is just that, OLD.

The facts are listed in the dating in the very links you provided. 1999, 1988, etc. Nothing newer than 10 years old and much older than that....ok, its "old" but relevant and you dodged the "bad as disinformation" part. That's fine.

Golden_Rule
08-19-2009, 08:44 AM
...ok, its "old" but relevant and you dodged the "bad as disinformation" part. That's fine.

I stated it in other words and you seemed to take the "bad or disinformative" personally and I didn't mean it that way.

Like me try again to be clearer. When quoting info that old - even with the best of intentions- on a subject like HIV were so much research is being done it can have the same effect as bad or disinformation. Why? Because the info contained can be so far behind the curve as not to be relevant anymore.

WiseGuy_TX
08-19-2009, 05:46 PM
I stated it in other words and you seemed to take the "bad or disinformative" personally and I didn't mean it that way.

Like me try again to be clearer. When quoting info that old - even with the best of intentions- on a subject like HIV were so much research is being done it can have the same effect as bad or disinformation. Why? Because the info contained can be so far behind the curve as not to be relevant anymore....ok, sometimes something old is irrelevant, got it, and facts discounting my quoted post have not been presented, thats fine.

Earl_the_Pearl
08-21-2009, 11:24 AM
And NOT suggesting anyone should do anything other than laugh at this guy BUT, for the purpose of keeping things real, if the papers are legit and he hasn't had new sexual contact post testing in 90 days [actually 30 is probably sufficient but 90 takes care of the small percentage that don't have antigens show up in the first 30 days] then he's telling the truth from a medical perspective.
Having a child is so much more likely than spreading HIV. Look at the number of abortions and baby daddies compared to heterosexual HIV cases; million to one. Cover that rascal or open your wallet for 23 years. :O

Earl_the_Pearl
08-21-2009, 11:42 AM
I hope one day you get yourself together and no longer have to pay an extras girl in a SC to get off.. I really mean that. Best wishes to you buddy. Some men may not be looking for extras but in a diminished state have them forced on them. They may have them forced on them for a long time as they find themselves OTC on a false pretense.

black_widow
09-05-2009, 06:05 AM
A friend of mine who is VIP like I am got syphillis from unprotected sex with a girl he did in CR. He is not sure which one bc he was doing practically a different one every time over a period of months.

WOW. Just....wow. Unprotected sex with a different girl every visit over the course of several months?!?! IS HE ASKING TO DIE????

Seems like it to me. Honestly, he's damn lucky syphillis is all he got. Could have been much, MUCH worse!


Another fellow told me over coffee he unintentionally had unprotected sex with a dancer / escort when the condom came off during foreplay on an airmattress at his trailer.

Sorry but.....dude, HAHAHAH!!!!

The epitomie of white trash. The singular most white trash demi-paragraphy that I've ever read in my entire life. Foreplay on an airmattress in a trailer??? Where do you live??? On the outskirts of Detroit or something???

WOW.



she was using vaginal fluid to lubricate her hands as he heard a strange sound as she reached in for lube.

This whole post makes me wanna shit out a huge pile of LULZ.

HAHAHAHA.....a "strange sound as she reached in for lube". The mental images that accompany this are torturous! Where did the strange sound come from? The 10 year old "lube" aka Vaseline jar, or her 4+ kids vag queefing softly in the night?? The world will never know....

It will also never know exactly why someone would reach "in" for lube. In??? In WHAT? Into the black gaping hole of her vag. NICE.

I feel like I'm reading a poorly written horror novel!


While it inititially scared him he decided what the hey and did her without a condom bc he wanted the thrill of coming in her.

Hey, it scared me too. But being "scared" and then randomly switching to thoughts that pertained to the "thrill of coming in her", is pretty unfathomable to me. How could you be frightened then allow yourself to enter some crazy strange sounding vag lubrication piece of white trash work, as this girl is portrayed to be????

And "what the hey"...

Really. Who says this???


Word of caution: If getting HJ from extras gal, be sure you are aware of what she is using for lube LOL.

Well, what a gentleman. I'm sure that all these gross dudes are really gonna care if the girl uses her vag output as lube or not. Obviously, if they are down to pull their dick out during a dance, they are extreme maschocists and want to die a slow death by HIV infection. A little "vag juice" isn't as innocent as it makes itself out to be.

Lastly....LOL? Really?! Why "LOL"? Whats so "laugh out loud" funny about gross whores using their vaginal fluids to lubricate cheap hand jobs? In fact, it should be "CAN" aka "cry all night" because even the thought of girls doing such things makes me wanna lay in bed all day and night, bawling. WHY??? Really.....just why?! What a shitty life. Giving $20 HJs for what? For a risk of living your life with HIV?

Uh huh...no way Jose!

xdamage
09-05-2009, 07:50 AM
^^^ You don't know Jake like we do. But for those who do -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1a_ikfUico

Earl_the_Pearl
09-08-2009, 11:53 PM
^^^ You don't know Jake like we do. But for those who do -



When was the danger zone; at 2 minutes?

callista
09-10-2009, 12:41 AM
The epitomie of white trash. The singular most white trash demi-paragraphy that I've ever read in my entire life. Foreplay on an airmattress in a trailer??? Where do you live??? On the outskirts of Detroit or something???
!

:-\ I lived in Detroit most of my life, and trust me.... We don't do foreplay on an air mattress in a trailer. We do it on a set of mattresses on the floor with no bedframe, in a house.

There's too many overweight people in Detroit to handle the air mattresses.

callista
09-10-2009, 12:45 AM
Honestly, kids, let's break it down. IMO, I think the best thing that people could do is have a way to be tested every 6 months regardless of whether they are able to pay or not. Make testing low cost, and much less taboo, and more people will be tested!

Encourage people to want to get tested, and people won't be so afraid of it. Make it obtainable and get them used to it, and it will become second nature.

Granted, my theory works best in an idealistic world, but I like my lil happy place.

Earl_the_Pearl
09-10-2009, 12:49 AM
Honestly, kids, let's break it down. IMO, I think the best thing that people could do is have a way to be tested every 6 months regardless of whether they are able to pay or not. Make testing low cost, and much less taboo, and more people will be tested!

Encourage people to want to get tested, and people won't be so afraid of it. Make it obtainable and get them used to it, and it will become second nature.

Granted, my theory works best in an idealistic world, but I like my lil happy place.
It would be a waste of valuable medical resources. I'm a low life PL perv and HIV is unheard of in our community. IV drug users and homosexuals should be tested though.

mediocrity
09-10-2009, 12:53 AM
Oh lordy are some of you lucky I've been taking prednisone for hives and it's making me in a better mood as a lesser known side effect.

Earl_the_Pearl
09-10-2009, 01:02 AM
Oh lordy are some of you lucky I've been taking prednisone for hives and it's making me in a better mood as a lesser known side effect.
I take Kentucky Bourbon; it helps the dancers ITC.

Golden_Rule
09-10-2009, 02:17 AM
Oh lordy are some of you lucky I've been taking prednisone for hives and it's making me in a better mood as a lesser known side effect.

Watch out for massive weight gains though as another side effect.

They loaded me up on that stuff to reduce inflammation after a bad traffic accident and I gained 60lbs in three months.

Total bitch to take off.

mediocrity
09-10-2009, 02:41 AM
Watch out for massive weight gains though as another side effect.

They loaded me up on that stuff to reduce inflammation after a bad traffic accident and I gained 60lbs in three months.

Total bitch to take off.

It's only for five days and I am actually losing weight.

pinkkitten
09-10-2009, 05:05 AM
Honestly, kids, let's break it down. IMO, I think the best thing that people could do is have a way to be tested every 6 months regardless of whether they are able to pay or not. Make testing low cost, and much less taboo, and more people will be tested!

Encourage people to want to get tested, and people won't be so afraid of it. Make it obtainable and get them used to it, and it will become second nature.

Granted, my theory works best in an idealistic world, but I like my lil happy place.

i dont know, i would argue that the best thing people could do is use comdoms correctly each and every time and find a way to make those more affordable and available. i mean, testing's good and everything but once a person has something incurable they're stuck with it. and possibly were giving it out to multiple people in between the 6 month intervals. or could continue to give it out even after knowing, for whatever fucked up reasons they may have. so i would definately focus on prevention.

Earl_the_Pearl
09-10-2009, 05:30 PM
AIDS from day one was and still is a political disease. When it comes to flue there is no question people are quarantined and tested on the spot, remember the bird flu checks at airports. Once a certain political group that was responsible for AIDS got involved they helped spread it with their "privacy" concerns.

tinydancer85
09-10-2009, 06:00 PM
As far as testing goes if you google/yahoo free HIV testing in your area there are clinics that will do it for free or for a donation. About two years before I met my now husband I got my first HIV test, they did a mouth swab...it took about two weeks to get the results but it was worth it the test normally costs about $40. If this test that they do comes back positive they do another test which is more extensive, that's the really expensive test. IMO people who are not monogamously in a relationship should get tested every 6 months. If your in the sex industry porn star, prostitute your tests should be more frequent and you should practice safe sex ALWAYS.

Earl_the_Pearl
09-10-2009, 06:21 PM
As far as testing goes if you google/yahoo free HIV testing in your area there are clinics that will do it for free or for a donation. About two years before I met my now husband I got my first HIV test, they did a mouth swab...it took about two weeks to get the results but it was worth it the test normally costs about $40. If this test that they do comes back positive they do another test which is more extensive, that's the really expensive test. IMO people who are not monogamously in a relationship should get tested every 6 months. If your in the sex industry porn star, prostitute your tests should be more frequent and you should practice safe sex ALWAYS.
I get a complete physical every year and my physician does not do an HIV test. Is she wrong? Every time I go to jail I am forced to get a TB test but not an HIV test. Is the county wrong?

noelle
09-10-2009, 07:25 PM
Earl, are you saying you've never gotten an HIV test? It surprises me that someone so erroneously terrified of the possibility of contracting HIV from casual contact with an HIV-positive person would not be tested regularly.

Earl_the_Pearl
09-10-2009, 07:41 PM
Earl, are you saying you've never gotten an HIV test? It surprises me that someone so erroneously terrified of the possibility of contracting HIV from casual contact with an HIV-positive person would not be tested regularly.
Who me? I don't fear HIV as I don't get ass fucked nor do I do IV drugs. In fact I don't even smoke Marijuana.

I'm too old to die young. I also don't smoke cigarettes.

According to the CDC, the adverse health effects from cigarette smoking account for nearly 1 of every 5 deaths each year in the United States. More deaths are caused each year by tobacco use than by all deaths from human immunodeficiency virus (HIV), illegal drug use, alcohol use, motor vehicle accidents, suicides and murders combined.

WiseGuy_TX
09-11-2009, 06:21 AM
Who me? I don't fear HIV as I don't get ass fucked nor do I do IV drugs. In fact I don't even smoke Marijuana.

I'm too old to die young. I also don't smoke cigarettes....EP i'm curious. For one year, if you could pick any random 20 women in the world to fuck, as much intercourse as you wanted, full on gonzo, all without condoms and without testing, ....would you do it, yes/no? Please no other qualifiers (like being virgins, etc.) or joking. I'm curious about where you draw the line between your downplaying HIV's relevance/seriousness to your personal stance on never touching an HIV girl.

princessjas
09-11-2009, 08:39 AM
Who me? I don't fear HIV as I don't get ass fucked nor do I do IV drugs. In fact I don't even smoke Marijuana.

I'm too old to die young. I also don't smoke cigarettes.

This attitude truly terrifies me.

You realize that Paterson has the highest rate of HIV infection in NJ right? (data was from 2008 I believe) Back in the early 90's AIDS was the leading cause of death of women of reproductive age in Paterson. It was one of only 9 cities in the US with HIV as the leading cause of death that year. 25% of the Latinos infected with HIV in NJ contracted it through HETEROSEXUAL contact. (trying to find info on other ethnicities.) I found a few links that were 2000ish and they quoted rates of 24-26% of HIV cases to be from heterosexual contact.

http://www.state.nj.us/health/aids/documents/latino_hiv_factsheet_123108.pdf

ETA - If you have repeated sexual intercourse with these "dancers" you really, really need an HIV test. Rates of transmission even with perfect condom usage are not 0%, more like 2% *. If you have unprotected sex, even with only a few of the girls, I'd say it's likely you are infected. Please, please for the love of god get tested!

The jail doesn't test for HIV but does for TB because they don't care if you transmit HIV to some inmate you assrape. They DO care if just by breathing you infect a guard with TB. The Dr doesn't test in your yearly physical unless you request it due to laws in most areas.

Now I'm done with this shit. Trying to make you understand what is generally basic knowledge has fucked up my life quiet enough fyvm.

*Estimates only can be provided because it is impossible to have a control group. It's obviously unethical to tell one serodiscordant couple to never use condoms so the stats aren't official.

Earl_the_Pearl
09-11-2009, 07:17 PM
...EP i'm curious. For one year, if you could pick any random 20 women in the world to fuck, as much intercourse as you wanted, full on gonzo, all without condoms and without testing, ....would you do it, yes/no? Please no other qualifiers (like being virgins, etc.) or joking. I'm curious about where you draw the line between your downplaying HIV's relevance/seriousness to your personal stance on never touching an HIV girl.
I would use a condom as I don't want to pay child support.

Earl_the_Pearl
09-11-2009, 08:02 PM
This attitude truly terrifies me.

You realize that Paterson has the highest rate of HIV infection in NJ right?
HIV is not easy to catch as proven by STD infection. The number of New Jersey women who have EVER had AIDS is 20,436, that is the all time number not the number alive today. Today 5,499 New Jersey women are living with AIDS.


40% of women who reported having sex have had an STD.


According to a new report, the HIV rate in Washington DC is the highest in the country. With nearly 3 percent of residents of the nation's capital living with HIV/AIDS, the rate is higher than in some West African countries.

I have a higher chance of getting shot or beaten and becoming brain damage than getting AIDS by visiting SC.

princessjas
09-11-2009, 08:19 PM
HIV is not easy to catch as proven by STD infection. The number of New Jersey women who have EVER had AIDS is 20,436, that is the all time number not the number alive today. Today 5,499 New Jersey women are living with AIDS.
http://www.aidsaction.org/communications/publications/statefactsheets/pdfs/2005/newjersey_2005L.pdf

40% of women who reported having sex have had an STD.
http://www.healthnews.com/family-health/womens-health/stds-affect-26-percent-female-teens-671.html
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2009/mar2009/aids-m23.shtml

I have a higher chance of getting shot or beaten and becoming brain damage than getting AIDS by visiting SC.

I wasn't saying visiting a SC is dangerous...but fucking the "strippers" most certainly is.

You can believe what you want to... I've dealt with the virus, studied it. Know how it is transmitted and how it is not.

BTW - I'm the one that was honest with you before and gave you the rates of infection per incidence when you were scared to even be near a seropositive individual. Wish I would have skipped the "it isn't that damn contagious" lecture...cause it IS contagious...with sexual exposure. (Yes the virus is present in ALL bodily fluids, like saliva, mucous, etc, but it is in such tiny assed quantaties that sexual contact-infected fluid meets mucous membrane- is basically the only thing to worry about, barring the rare case in which the universe seems to smite someone down.)

ETA - Wrote this while sick and left out blood to blood infection is the absolute most effective method of transmission. Blood in your eyes, or directly on any major mucous membranes is also risky. The more infected blood that is introduced into your system the higher the possiblility of infection. In other words a health care worker that sticks themself with an infected needle is much less likely to become infected than an IV drug user that sticks an infected needle directly into a vein or artery, which is much less likely to become infected than someone who has infected blood introduced into an open wound. Hope this makes sense, my brain is starting to come back online I think. (I think my first post in this thread gave this info and some rates of infection.)

Earl_the_Pearl
09-11-2009, 09:18 PM
sexual contact-infected fluid meets mucous membrane- is basically the only thing to worry about,
That is why I don't ass fuck. So the spit of an infected person contains the virus and my nose has mucous membranes but it is OK to have an infected person sneeze in my general direction. /:O

princessjas
09-12-2009, 06:40 AM
That is why I don't ass fuck. So the spit of an infected person contains the virus and my nose has mucous membranes but it is OK to have an infected person sneeze in my general direction. /:O

Saliva has incredibly low viral counts (nearly non-existant) making airborn transmission impossible. Seminal/vaginal fluids and blood are the only viable methods of transmission.

Vaginal sex is only slightly less risky than anal. Anal is a bit more so since the backdoor isn't really meant for that sort of action and there is normally some seminal fluid introduced into the bloodstream and well the intestines are made to absorb things well. If say the girl has had a lot of sex and has tiny tears inside her vagina (like a whore likely would) you are looking at a similar risk though....actually much higher than that of anal with a set partner, because of the whores elevated likelyhood of being infected.

Let me put it this way. I've studied the virus..spent literally YEARS doing so...and I don't eschew anal, but I certainly avoid sex for pay or anyone that has been with a paid sex worker would have to be tested. Pretty simple.