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Donovan28
08-19-2009, 04:15 PM
^^ You're entitled to your opinion, Goldie, and thanks for clarifying. Wish you well too.

Elvia, Elvia...What can I say? You just handed me my balls, didn't you? Does that make you feel good? We continue to disagree, I'm afraid. I didn't ask anything of you specifically, and THIS thread IS for customers, (hence I can post here) but should be helpful to dancers with open minds. (read: NOT YOU)

Etiquette? From someone who has attacked me with each of her posts, you have no leg of etiquette to stand on, and also no idea of my background in sales...(which coincidentally your job consists mostly OF). I'd appreciate it if your condescending comments and tone were directed at someone else. I've been respectful to you and nothing but good intentions were meant by my posts. I won't share my negative impressions of you with others, and I'd appreciate the same courtesy. If this thread doesn't do anything for you, kindly move on to something else. Thanks.

Cyril
08-19-2009, 09:07 PM
I dunno I'm probably the weirdest stripper in the world in that I usually do act like myself. Aside from giving away too much personal information I talk about things that actually do interest me (as opposed to reading the Sports Pages and pretending to like baseball). I am a talkative person anyway though!

There is nothing better in this world than a talkative girl.

Cyril
08-19-2009, 09:27 PM
Maybe everyone isn't dense and you're not as brilliant as you'd like to think. That's a possibility. No need for these jaded insulting comments. If it's that simple to you and you can't be constructive to try to help others...::)

Look what Bella wrote.

Verf has taken upon himself to be the vanguard of strippers. I think it is more than a clear possibility that he is not as smart as he thinks.

lopaw
08-19-2009, 10:15 PM
I've never had any trouble talking to dancers, and dancers don't seem to have any trouble chatting me up either. But since I'm a girl I can chat with them about girlie stuff, if they want to talk about such things.

If you try to go into a club and approach dancers with prepared opening lines, it can definitely come off as contrived (as goreantx said) or cheesy. The last thing you want to do is scare away dancers by appearing smarmy.

Donovan28
08-20-2009, 07:03 AM
While I am all about the mission when I'm at work, I have to admit I like it when my day is broken up by someone who can stimulate my mind with some good conversation. I have to think this is true for the ladies at the clubs too. Besides, if there isn't any good conversation, how do you know if this is the one you want to spend all of your money on?

I have already been downed for this in this thread, but I tend to vote with my dollars. If an entertainer is charming and has geisha conversation skills, my wallet comes out sooner and stays out longer. I'm not talking about faking it (easy to spot), I'm talking about a dancer really trying to connect a little. Stripping is way more of a sales job than it is a dancing job. If I 'vote' for her by buying dances, she will stick around. If I choose not to 'vote', the girl goes away.

As far as coming off 'smarmy'? That's all perception. Some dancers will appreciate a good conversation, and the ones who can't or won't have one can think whatever they want. What's the client's impression of hustling?? Especially if it's slow (and where ISN'T it slower right now?) hustling past potential money makes absolutely no sense. If it's crowded, hustle away.

I'm not looking for prepared 'opening lines'. It's not the movie "Swingers" after all. Everyone likes to talk about different things. Some of it could also depend on your state of mind as well as your drinking level for the evening. This thread is really just to foster better back and forth conversation for both the dancer and the customer. Doesn't it help to dig into these issues a little deeper?

britneyireland
08-20-2009, 09:49 AM
Geez Earl, Shy-Guy, and Cyberstripper you know that SGR is female run by yours truly! LOL!

Saph, I'm sure YOU don't have a hard time keeping conversation going, but I notice that a lot of the newbies do. Even worse, they tend to drone on and on about nothing and don't get the hint that the guy is not interested and then HE is stuck trying to get rid of her...which makes him not want to look for a club with "better girls"

Hmmm...maybe I'm changing the direction of the thread too much...back to the original question:

It all depends on the current conditions of the club. If it is busy, and I can turn dances quite easily and quickly then I will not invest much more than 2 -3 songs into the initial conversation and structure it towards a Yes. All customers have a different time period for which they feel is acceptable before opening their wallet. Some are ready to go right away, others want to get to know me a little bit better. I don't feel taken advantage of, or that someone is wasting my time if he is a what I call a "Limited Buyer" which is a customer who is not a VIP, but will buy 2-3 dances from the right girl. On a busy night, I will admittedly be to impatient for the Limited Buyer and spend more time looking for the VIP and potential regular.

On the other hand, if it's DEAD like the night I met Donovan in Vegas, then I will sit down and enjoy a long pleasant conversation with someone because it's better than sitting in the locker room listening to the whiners. What makes me stay is if the customer makes as much of an effort towards the conversation as I do. This includes all the basics: what do you do besides this (so I can wow him with my multiple streams of income) and what do you like to do for fun (travel and strip!)

And BTW, that's my favorite picture of you! Much better than your myspace avatar ;P

Golden_Rule
08-20-2009, 12:01 PM
Geez Earl, Shy-Guy, and Cyberstripper you know that SGR is female run by yours truly! LOL!

Saph, I'm sure YOU don't have a hard time keeping conversation going, but I notice that a lot of the newbies do. Even worse, they tend to drone on and on about nothing and don't get the hint that the guy is not interested and then HE is stuck trying to get rid of her...which makes him not want to look for a club with "better girls"

Hmmm...maybe I'm changing the direction of the thread too much...back to the original question:

It all depends on the current conditions of the club. If it is busy, and I can turn dances quite easily and quickly then I will not invest much more than 2 -3 songs into the initial conversation and structure it towards a Yes. All customers have a different time period for which they feel is acceptable before opening their wallet. Some are ready to go right away, others want to get to know me a little bit better. I don't feel taken advantage of, or that someone is wasting my time if he is a what I call a "Limited Buyer" which is a customer who is not a VIP, but will buy 2-3 dances from the right girl. On a busy night, I will admittedly be to impatient for the Limited Buyer and spend more time looking for the VIP and potential regular.

On the other hand, if it's DEAD like the night I met Donovan in Vegas, then I will sit down and enjoy a long pleasant conversation with someone because it's better than sitting in the locker room listening to the whiners. What makes me stay is if the customer makes as much of an effort towards the conversation as I do. This includes all the basics: what do you do besides this (so I can wow him with my multiple streams of income) and what do you like to do for fun (travel and strip!)

And BTW, that's my favorite picture of you! Much better than your myspace avatar ;P

You want to know what works with guys like me vis-a-vie dancer to customer convo. Just be natural.

I've worked in sales. I have multiple degrees, one of them in communications. I've worked in radio and television. I was a cop in one of the biggest cities of the world and a detective for most of that time. During that career I was trained in professional profiling and human dynamics. Concurrently I opened my own corporate security consulting firm using many of the same skills mentioned above in my work for many Fortune 500 companies.

I know people. I know what makes them tick. I've made a living learning about them. Knowing what they will do before they do it themselves. I can smell a con job, bunko, grift artist or someone trying to sell me swamp land 2 miles off.

All one has to be is their natural self and allow me to be mine. Never give me the impression you are trying to "work" me as unless you are 100% perfect, and who is, I'll become suspicious of your motives and decline any sales pitch. That's what works for and on me, but more than that I believe that is what works for or on anyone.

Elvia
08-20-2009, 01:10 PM
Donovan, I have to agree with others. You're being a bit over sensitive here. No one said that you are swarmy. All they said was that a contrived line like "I'd like to hear your voice to decide on what lovely lady to spend my time with this evening"or whatever will come off as swarmy. Why even bother asking what we think of it if you're just going to blow off any negative feedback or get defensive? Perhaps you need to work on your research skills. Asking your subjects (strippers, in this case) for honest opinions and then arguing about it or telling them they're doing their job incorrectly probably isn't the ideal way to gather market research. And I have no idea why you went off on Verf. I've read his post several times and I still can't imagine how you managed to take offense at it.

britneyireland
08-20-2009, 01:19 PM
I know people. I know what makes them tick. I've made a living learning about them. Knowing what they will do before they do it themselves. I can smell a con job, bunko, grift artist or someone trying to sell me swamp land 2 miles off.
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Right, but a guy walking into a strip club knows what he is there to buy. I don't think SALES is a dirty word. A good salesperson listens to what the customer wants (in some case dances, in other cases attention, in my favorite case an hour with a topless shrink) and doesn't try to sell him something that he doesn't want. I've never seen a stripper trying to sell beachfront property in AZ, so I'm not sure how your post correlates.

I think what most guys LOVE is the conversation that leads up to the sale itself. I haven't seen any responses from guys who say "I want a girl to walk up to me and say wanna dance"

Donovan28
08-20-2009, 01:34 PM
Donovan, I have to agree with others. You're being a bit over sensitive here. No one said that you are swarmy. All they said was that a contrived line like "I'd like to hear your voice to decide on what lovely lady to spend my time with this evening"or whatever will come off as swarmy. Why even bother asking what we think of it if you're just going to blow off any negative feedback or get defensive? Perhaps you need to work on your research skills. Asking your subjects (strippers, in this case) for honest opinions and then arguing about it or telling them they're doing their job incorrectly probably isn't the ideal way to gather market research. And I have no idea why you went off on Verf. I've read his post several times and I still can't imagine how you managed to take offense at it.

That 'line' was just to get reactions, maybe I am being sensitive, but does it seem to you that people like to use these boards to tear other people down sometimes? I think it's not even something conscious that people are thinking about doing on purpose. Strippers aren't my research subjects, they are my friends and coworkers in this industry. I haven't told anyone they are doing their job incorrectly. Everyone does what they need to do and what works for them. I think it's good to suggest out of the box things that might increase results or stimulate new ideas. (1% improvement per shift = over 100% increase in effectiveness in less than a year) If someone can't use it, they could just let it go...truce, Elvia. I've read some other things you have posted and you definitely know what you"re talking about.:)

Golden_Rule
08-20-2009, 01:37 PM
I don't think SALES is a dirty word.

A good salesperson listens to what the customer wants (in some case dances, in other cases attention, in my favorite case an hour with a topless shrink) and doesn't try to sell him something that he doesn't want. I've never seen a stripper trying to sell beachfront property in AZ, so I'm not sure how your post correlates.

Don't get the wrong impression. I don't think it is a dirty word either.

All I am suggesting is what sells most people first and foremost is that they like the salesperson. That, as anyone successful in sales will tell you, is decided within the first minute. First impressions count.

Something that comes off as manipulative creates instant negative impressions on the part of the person who thinks they are being "worked". That can't help you get into that, "I like this person.", zone you want to be in if you plan on selling them something.

Next is that you present the prospective sales target, in a way they are willing to digest it, with information that says to them you have something they want. I am suggesting that with most folks that is simply to know your product line and present it in its best light. Since in this case the product is the person themselves I am further suggesting the best way to do that is just be as naturally pleasant as possible and allow the end user to, in their own way and time, determine if they want what you are selling. In this way you sell yourself, which is your product in this case, in its best light.

In my own case even if I may not want a dance altogether or with that particular dancer at that moment, I remember who was real, natural and gracious with me and that scores high points for purchases at later dates.

Elvia
08-20-2009, 01:38 PM
I agree that a truce is in order. Let's just chock it up to a couple misunderstandings that got out of hand. It's easy to misread someone's tone on the internet.

Golden_Rule
08-20-2009, 01:46 PM
I agree that a truce is in order. Let's just chock it up to a couple misunderstandings that got out of hand. It's easy to misread someone's tone on the internet.

Amen to that.

Confident and/or exuberant people can be read as arrogant very easily in a two dimensional medium such as web site forums.

Donovan28
08-20-2009, 01:56 PM
Awww, c'mere you two, let me give you a 2 dimensional hug...

You're right, this medium is prone to misunderstandings!
This thread is getting huge now though.

BritneyIreland finally chimed in!

Dancers ARE more salespeople than they are dancers. When the product is TIME spent with you, it's even more important to sell so well that they think it's THEIR idea. That's why I like it when girls are great at conversation. When that happens, there's no frustration from either party. Dances are a natural progression.

eviLevi
08-20-2009, 02:43 PM
^^ I just tell them that the men in the daytime are usually quality over quantity.... and that it's more about having an actual connection with someone (before doing a string of dances) than jumping from guy to guy to guy all night (who are all just getting single dances).

absolutely. the night shift starts at 8 but won't get going till as late as 11, and the men i talk to before the rush always comment on how slow it is. i always respond by pointing out how nice to share this level of personal attention before i'm so busy... i feel it makes us both more comfortable.

so for the men out there: yes, we are fully aware of how slow it is; we work here. if you missed my stage set, look me in the eyes and ask, "where have you been all night?" tip well, tip often. you all look similar from under the stage lights - esp. when half the club is wearing white oxford shirts with blue checks (i swear for some reason men dress like a polo ad en mass) - so the guy who comes to the stage more than once sticks out. if you smile and make eye contact with me after tipping, i will ALWAYS come to you

Elvia
08-20-2009, 06:19 PM
i have never understood why guys like to say things such as "its dead in here" or "how do you make money, there's no customers?" especially after i have already told them that im actually having a pretty good night. but no, they go right back with the its dead in here talk. when i've asked them why they say that they always say they're just making conversation but i know im a pretty good conversationalist and i can talk, get them to open up and keep a conversation going about pretty much anything if only they would lay off the negativity.

so i guess what im asking is: why do customers insist on wanting talk about that and generally bring the mood down?

On another note, I would like to know what the hell is up with these guys too, particularly because so many don't just mention it, they dwell on it and will not let me guide the conversation away from it. I really can't figure out what they're trying to do.

Cyril
08-20-2009, 08:54 PM
I agree that a truce is in order. Let's just chock it up to a couple misunderstandings that got out of hand. It's easy to misread someone's tone on the internet.

How come you are making truce with him and not me? For him, strippers are co-workers and friends. For me, strippers are immaculate love. /:O

Kylea2
08-21-2009, 12:31 AM
I love when customers do the "what's a girl like you doing in a place like this?" while I'm on stage... it gives me an excuse to sit down and talk to them and have an actual conversation that I can show them something positive from.

... That and any tip over $1.

Earl_the_Pearl
08-21-2009, 08:30 PM
Geez Earl, Shy-Guy, and Cyberstripper you know that SGR is female run by yours truly! LOL!
Yes I know; like Jim and Tammy Faye Baker. :P

NikkaR
08-22-2009, 01:34 PM
In response to the OP:
If a customer is interested in me, all I ask is that he smile, look me in the eyes, be respectful, and show some enthusiasm in our conversation! I cannot tell you how many times I've been talking to a customer who ends up buying numerous dances, yet his nonverbals are very difficult to read at first. Sometimes having a conversation with these customers is like pulling teeth. Terse answers and no eye contact is frustrating. Usually they warm up after a little bit... but it would make me much more comfortable for those 2-3 songs if they acted a little friendlier, even if they're shy by nature.

Conversely, if you're not interested in me also let me know. This has been repeated many times, but it's worth reiterating. I try to assess your verbal and nonverbal communication to figure out whether you're interested -- but I'm not a mind-reader! Politely tell me you don't want any company right now, that you won't be buying dances for awhile, or that you're waiting for another girl. It won't hurt my feelings. It saves time for us both, and I'll be very appreciative.

mediocrity
08-22-2009, 04:11 PM
How come you are making truce with him and not me? For him, strippers are co-workers and friends. For me, strippers are immaculate love. /:O

Because he doesn't make the same stupid mistakes over and over, and is genuine.

laurcon
08-22-2009, 04:58 PM
if a guy wants to talk to me, he can buy me a drink and then he has some time to talk while i drink it. if a guy is too cheap to buy a girl a drink, he is too cheap for me. or he is just not that into me and also not worth my effort. its really pretty simple.
what's more important than corny openers are what you talk about afterwards. i make sure to have some caddyshack quotes on hand, but the basics about where he's from, if he's been here before, what'd he do before he came in, blah blah.
i really don't see how this thread is supposed to help dancers at all though. conversation starters from a customer? where? and the guy that posted about asking girls if they like to play?!? i wish there was a "no thanks!" button for that. guys that go to the strip club looking for more than a dance and then post on this board really piss me off! :gnasher:

chris91
08-22-2009, 10:03 PM
^^This is true for me also. The guys who give me the most money usually require the least selling.

Unless it's completely dead in the club, I simply refuse to do the cheapest champagne room, because typically the guys who buy it are bargain hunters who expect me to "give them their money's worth. Sometimes that means a handjob, other times they want me to dance for the whole hour straight, and I'm not doing either of those things.

Donovan28
08-23-2009, 09:09 PM
In response to the OP:
If a customer is interested in me, all I ask is that he smile, look me in the eyes, be respectful, and show some enthusiasm in our conversation! I cannot tell you how many times I've been talking to a customer who ends up buying numerous dances, yet his nonverbals are very difficult to read at first. Sometimes having a conversation with these customers is like pulling teeth. Terse answers and no eye contact is frustrating. Usually they warm up after a little bit... but it would make me much more comfortable for those 2-3 songs if they acted a little friendlier, even if they're shy by nature.

Conversely, if you're not interested in me also let me know. This has been repeated many times, but it's worth reiterating. I try to assess your verbal and nonverbal communication to figure out whether you're interested -- but I'm not a mind-reader! Politely tell me you don't want any company right now, that you won't be buying dances for awhile, or that you're waiting for another girl. It won't hurt my feelings. It saves time for us both, and I'll be very appreciative.

Good answer, Nikka. I think there's a whole other thread that's about "If you don't want a dance..."
Sounds like you have some real challenging guys sometimes with the nonverbals and pulling teeth to talk about something---anything!

I'm generalizing, but some of those guys are 'stepping out' on their wives for the first time...seeing someone else in a state of undress, while it's what they want, can be uncomfortable for a while.

Otoki
08-24-2009, 09:33 AM
After reading the entire thread, all I can say is this, Donovan:

SW is unique in that it's a site geared towards dancers, more than anyone else. Because of this, dancers can get annoyed or get their hackles up if someone who has never danced before tries to give them advice in a way that implies that they know how to do the job better than the dancer does (some of your posts definitely read like that, especially when you responded to Elvira's irritation with condescension).

And keep in mind that this site is FULL of awful threads started by guys telling strippers how to "improve their game", and that almost never ends well.

While it's partly because she's a dancer herself, I like the way britneyireland presents her advice because she phrases it in more of a "here's something that's worked for me, maybe it'll work for you!" kind of way.

I know you have some great, useful knowledge. It'll probably go over better here if you present it in a different manner next time:)

Elvia
08-24-2009, 01:41 PM
^^This is true for me also. The guys who give me the most money usually require the least selling.
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This has always been my experience as well. Which is why I like to ask a guy if he'd like to buy me a drink if he asks me to chat with him. In my experience, a customer that's not cheap or rude isn't going to refuse a dancer a drink in exchange for sitting and chatting. It's the ones that do that always turn out to be the cheapskates looking to see how much they can get out of the paltry sum they're finally willing to offer up.

goreantx
08-24-2009, 01:46 PM
Lately there hasn't been much chatting up. I just walk up to a guy, give him a huge hug, and we're dancing for the next hour... :O

stressed
08-24-2009, 09:22 PM
Usually i will watch the stages dances from the bar and pick one before i go sit at a table. I will go up and tip and ask her to come see me when she is free. Once she introduces herself and sits, if she starts asking questions...what brings you here tonight etc...then i will offer a drink and talk to her until she asks for a dance. I am easy to talk to and can run with most any conversation as long as it isnt depressing. I am here for a stress relief and want it light. If at the point she asks for a dance, i am not ready---i will tip according to the time and ask for one more drink. I do need to talk before. I see nothing wrong with wanna dance...its just not for me.

On another note, i never realized the whole clip thing was a signal. I have used a clip all my life because it is easier for me to seperate my money. Small bills in front and large in back. I find that when i am without my clip, i tend to give the wrong note on occasion. And no one ever corrects me either. The last time i didnt have the clip i gave a 50 instead of a 20. I do seperate my money between my clip and wally. I have every intention of spending most of what i bring, why else bring it. I guess i just need to hide it better. I dunno you people confuse me./:O

goreantx
08-24-2009, 09:34 PM
I have used a clip all my life because it is easier for me to seperate my money. /:O

Most wealthy men that I run into do.

laurcon
08-25-2009, 10:06 AM
Usually i will watch the stages dances from the bar and pick one before i go sit at a table. I will go up and tip and ask her to come see me when she is free. Once she introduces herself and sits, if she starts asking questions...what brings you here tonight etc...then i will offer a drink and talk to her until she asks for a dance. I am easy to talk to and can run with most any conversation as long as it isnt depressing. I am here for a stress relief and want it light. If at the point she asks for a dance, i am not ready---i will tip according to the time and ask for one more drink. I do need to talk before. I see nothing wrong with wanna dance...its just not for me.

On another note, i never realized the whole clip thing was a signal. I have used a clip all my life because it is easier for me to seperate my money. Small bills in front and large in back. I find that when i am without my clip, i tend to give the wrong note on occasion. And no one ever corrects me either. The last time i didnt have the clip i gave a 50 instead of a 20. I do seperate my money between my clip and wally. I have every intention of spending most of what i bring, why else bring it. I guess i just need to hide it better. I dunno you people confuse me./:O

ya first part sounds good, that's how it should work usually.
second part, calm down about your money clip. its not any type of signal. the idiot before posted something about asking girls if they like his money clip. just having one doesn't mean anything.

hot4ablackchick
08-26-2009, 12:20 AM
If she is sitting with me at my table (I will tip them $3 on stage to get them there usually), after the small talk (see below) and mentioning I am VIP (assuming I find her attractive and like what she's said so far), I usually will ask how long she has been dancing at the club and if she likes to play. I might show her two or more Bens as I do this or ask her what she thinks of my money clip (a gold plated Walking LIbety Half) which usually has 10 - 12 Bens or more. If they will not will sit with me off the bat and at least talk to me and simply walk up to my table asking if I will take a dance, something I find annoying, I will say "Well tell me this honey - do you like to play?" If she says yes, then I may take her upstairs to VIP and take 2 dances then see where we go from there......

Everybody is worried about convo, but the real power in a SC is money. However when talking with a dancer I try to find out why she is dancing (without being judgemental), how she likes it, if she's going to school, and see if she will discuss future plans. I will fit the pieces of that into the things I do or have going on to see if there is a common ground. I stay away from personal questions like age, marital status, kids and instead let them bring that up. I usually dress nice going to a SC, usually sport coat and nice professional shirt and slacks. Good looking shoes can almost always make a difference and once you show them you can converse intelligently they will start to see money which we all know is the main ingredient of stripper wealth. Last year I spent $21,000 on girls (mainly strippers) and while at times I feel this would have bought a lot of other nice things it beat going to Europe and for vacation I spent about $600 spending a few days in Chicago instead plus around $800 on activities with a gal I met at a SC there. Consequently, I did not go on the lake dinner cruise without a date....or just go back to the room alone. Chicago has so many beautiful women, just seeing them on the bus during summer in their short shorts is a treat.....Girl watching was as large a part of the fun as the river Arcitectural Tour.

WTF!!!????? Are you serious? Do you like my money clip? Do you like to play?

You would appear to be a complete douche and I would RUN.

Golden_Rule
08-26-2009, 07:00 PM
second part, calm down about your money clip. its not any type of signal. the idiot before posted something about asking girls if they like his money clip. just having one doesn't mean anything.

I carry two. A Winchester logo'd one with a small pocket knife for 20's on down another one with a $20 gold piece turned into a watch attached to the clip for the big bills.

Neither sends a signal to anyone but me. :) One is to remind me that time is money, the other to protect what is mine.

Golden_Rule
08-26-2009, 07:11 PM
Last year I spent $21,000 on girls (mainly strippers)...

To a man like me that is actually funny.

I am a pragmatic, practical, man. Things have to fall into their proper place in the world order for them to register with me. I don't care how much money you have, spending that kind of coin in strip-clubs makes no sense.

Example: A really nice trip to Paris costs about $7K for a week. There is nothing I can get out of a strip-club, extras included, worth $7K to me. I'd rather take the trip to Paris.

A fool and his money are soon parted. My Momma didn't raise any fools. I made mine the old fashioned way and while I am far from cheap, I get value for every dollar I part with.

I suggest dancers ought to be the same way. Take this fools money and than make it work for you and when you spend it, spend it wisely. ;)

Golden_Rule
08-26-2009, 07:16 PM
Having money doesn't make you powerful in a SC. Spending it, however, does. Keep doing that.


Lets be very honest. Spending money on politics may get you power, but in a SC???

I'm all for paying a fair price for my entertainment; working people ought to get paid, but spending BIG money in a strip-club makes one out to be nothing but a fool. I've heard enough dancers say so from their own mouths to know that's right. :)

chris91
08-26-2009, 08:51 PM
Lets be very honest. Spending money on politics may get you power, but in a SC???

I'm all for paying a fair price for my entertainment; working people ought to get paid, but spending BIG money in a strip-club makes one out to be nothing but a fool. I've heard enough dancers say so from their own mouths to know that's right. :)

I can't speak for all dancers, but I've certainly never looked at a big spender and thought he was a fool for spending so much. For someone who has a lot of money, spending a grand or two at the strip club isn't that big a deal. There's nothing foolish about it, as long as he's aware of what's going on. You may prefer a trip to paris, but that doesn't mean everyone should.

chris91
08-26-2009, 09:16 PM
"Well tell me this honey - do you like to play?"

I get this all the time and I absolutely hate it. In fact, I can't think of anything customers say that pisses me off more. It's such a spineless douchebag-ish way to ask for extras. It puts me in a position where I have to say no, because saying yes would mean agreeing to do anything from playing drinking games to full on ass fucking.

I mean, get real dude. If you can't even say it out loud, then I'm certainly not going to do it. Ugh, this shit makes me want to punch an old man in the throat.

hot4ablackchick
08-26-2009, 10:54 PM
I get this all the time and I absolutely hate it. In fact, I can't think of anything customers say that pisses me off more. It's such a spineless douchebag-ish way to ask for extras. It puts me in a position where I have to say no, because saying yes would mean agreeing to do anything from playing drinking games to full on ass fucking.

I mean, get real dude. If you can't even say it out loud, then I'm certainly not going to do it. Ugh, this shit makes me want to punch an old man in the throat.


:mad: Yup me too. I HATE being asked for extras, but if you are gonna ask then just fucking ask. The innuendos drive me nuts.

Earl_the_Pearl
08-27-2009, 02:45 AM
OK how much for a BBBJ and FS? I can see that going over big. A PL must be very careful in a SC; one time he will get what he asks for and another he will be asked to leave. This from the same dancer.

laurcon
08-27-2009, 02:11 PM
OK how much for a BBBJ and FS? I can see that going over big. A PL must be very careful in a SC; one time he will get what he asks for and another he will be asked to leave. This from the same dancer.
earl, please stop using your "extras" acronyms in the pink section. i know it really makes my skin crawl every time i read it. If some one makes a thread about asking strippers for sex acts then maybe, but otherwise i just don't think it belongs.
if for nothing else, i don't think most girls here even know what you're talking about and don't want to! :-X

Cyril
08-27-2009, 06:34 PM
OK how much for a BBBJ and FS? I can see that going over big. A PL must be very careful in a SC; one time he will get what he asks for and another he will be asked to leave. This from the same dancer.

What is a FS? I can guess that BBBJ has something to do with blow job but what is the full form?

mediocrity
08-28-2009, 12:14 PM
I get this all the time and I absolutely hate it. In fact, I can't think of anything customers say that pisses me off more. It's such a spineless douchebag-ish way to ask for extras. It puts me in a position where I have to say no, because saying yes would mean agreeing to do anything from playing drinking games to full on ass fucking.

I mean, get real dude. If you can't even say it out loud, then I'm certainly not going to do it. Ugh, this shit makes me want to punch an old man in the throat.

I hate it too, it's so disgusting and usually the ugliest guys ever ask for it this way. I also hate being called "honey" or "baby" from customers. It's so skeezy. I usually counter with "Play? Well I've played piano for 20 years, and I love that! What exactly do you mean? Can you be more specific?" as pleasantly as possible. I smile really innocently and try to get them to say exactly what they mean. It makes them super uncomfortable.

And BBBJ is bare back blow job (barf) and FS is full service, aka full on sex.

Donovan28
08-28-2009, 01:30 PM
I get this all the time and I absolutely hate it. In fact, I can't think of anything customers say that pisses me off more. It's such a spineless douchebag-ish way to ask for extras. It puts me in a position where I have to say no, because saying yes would mean agreeing to do anything from playing drinking games to full on ass fucking.

I mean, get real dude. If you can't even say it out loud, then I'm certainly not going to do it. Ugh, this shit makes me want to punch an old man in the throat.

:D:D:D That made me laugh, Chris. Make sure you put your middle knuckle out so he chokes when you hit him in the neck. (accidentally, of course)

This thread is NOT for helping customers who ask for extras, folks! Although it's probably a good thing to know how they do it so entertainers can recognize the phrases so they can RUN when they hear them.:)

goreantx
08-28-2009, 02:41 PM
Although it's probably a good thing to know how they do it so entertainers can recognize the phrases so they can RUN when they hear them.:)

(Starts running, trips in 7 inch heels, falls into another customer who is looking for extras) WHY GOD, WHHHYYY????? :help2:

chris91
08-28-2009, 11:39 PM
OK how much for a BBBJ and FS? I can see that going over big. A PL must be very careful in a SC; one time he will get what he asks for and another he will be asked to leave. This from the same dancer.

Guys ask me straight up for specific extras all the time. I say no, of course, and sometimes even manage to sell him a dance or two anyway. As long as he doesn't get pushy, it doesn't make me uncomfortable at all. If I stick around, then I end up being more relaxed knowing that dude isn't expecting more than I'm willing to give.

I have a hard time believing that most girls would have a guy thrown out just for asking. As if any club manager would actually do it anyway.

Also, bare back blow jobs? Barf indeed. No wonder so many people in this country have herpes.

laurcon
08-29-2009, 12:47 PM
^^ lmao gore!

Elvia
08-29-2009, 03:03 PM
OK how much for a BBBJ and FS? I can see that going over big. A PL must be very careful in a SC; one time he will get what he asks for and another he will be asked to leave. This from the same dancer.

Or you could just avoid the issue all together by leaving the club and just HIRING A DAMN ESCORT.

Jesus christ. How many times must it be said?

goreantx
08-29-2009, 11:16 PM
Or you could just avoid the issue all together by leaving the club and just HIRING A DAMN ESCORT.

Jesus christ. How many times must it be said?

The big "bouncer" manager at our club told me (when I complained about this) "Next time they ask for a blow job, tell them you'll send up someone that does that and go get me"

}:D

Donovan28
08-30-2009, 10:03 PM
The big "bouncer" manager at our club told me (when I complained about this) "Next time they ask for a blow job, tell them you'll send up someone that does that and go get me"

}:D

I know which club you're at, GoreanTX, does this mean there's a gay manager or that he's going to kick the guy out!!?::);) If it's the manager I think it is, the guy is getting a thrashing.

goreantx
08-30-2009, 10:47 PM
I know which club you're at, GoreanTX, does this mean there's a gay manager or that he's going to kick the guy out!!?::);) If it's the manager I think it is, the guy is getting a thrashing.

Yep, that's him!

Golden_Rule
08-30-2009, 11:41 PM
It makes them super uncomfortable.

That wouldn't work on a guy like me as hardly anything makes me uncomfortable... well, nothing anyone could say anyway. Then again, I would never ask about extras in such a bozo fashion.

On the rare occasion I am feeling in an "extras" mood I know where and how to scope them out without causing any offense to those around me who might not want to be bothered with inquires. I have very good radar and in most clubs within a 100 mile radius of my home port I have my moles that I tip for good info and point me in the right directions. When I ask, I do it in a polite fashion that leaves no misunderstandings about what is being discussed.

In other words I handle it the same way I handle anything else. Efficiently, effectively, to the point with square dealing as a priority.

Its the only way to fly. :)