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CCRiderM
10-13-2009, 04:51 AM
I HATE the girls that jump on guys!


Now let's not be too all encompassing in our hate. Girls jumping on guys can be fun in the right context. ;D

From the guys perspective, I know the girls want to get there first and have the best shot at getting that $$$, but I can tell you that I DO want to window shop first. I want to get settled in, watch a couple of stage acts, get my mind off the traffic jam that I had to fight to get to the club. THEN I'll start looking around for the "Oh, she's nice..." moment. Let's call it "Strip Club Foreplay".

princessjas
10-14-2009, 07:45 AM
Me too. Or if I didn't see them come in, and they're on their first drink, I will usually say "Oh, beer number one huh? Cool. I'll come hassle you in a little bit, ok?;D"

or sometimes, if they're lagging: "I'm just as cute when you're sober you know!" with a big grin.

I hated that at SR girls waited in droves by the door. It's like fuck man, let the dude window shop for a minute.

Oh, man I HATE that! At one of my old clubs there would be at least 2-3 girls on a guy before he made it more than 10ft inside the club. GAHH!! I always felt like a vulture doing that. Some regs I'd go hug as soon as they arrived and say something like "I'll drop by once you settle in a bit," but that was as annoying as I usually got.

KiwiStrawberry Splenda
10-15-2009, 08:21 PM
I HATE the girls that jump on guys!

Sometimes in some clubs, its dog eat dog, and you gotta do what you gotta do. Its not my MO, but its worked surprisingly well a few times...like, I found him at the door and he spent all night and all his money on me GOOD. If I worked at a place like the Rhino again, I'd probably do it if needed. Although not at the Rhino specifically, the girls there are like a pack of jackals and its sometimes best to take a slightly less aggressive stance and use a unique strategic formation (cough, cough, make good with the bouncer and tip him well ;) )

audrey_k
10-17-2009, 10:39 AM
I had the most fucking annoying customer last night. I sat with him and he kept leading me on making me think we were going to do a dance in five minutes or so. Then he changed his mind and I was having a shitty night and called him out on it, asking him to buy me a drink for my time. I told him it would be a nice thing to do, and he told me this:

"I AM a nice guy. I've told any other girl that came up to me if I didn't want a lap dance from her. I don't HAVE to do that, OK? I AM nice."

?????? what the fuck is that bullshit? If you don't want a dance fucking SAY SO, that guy over there might want one.

Anyway, I told him off a second time and heard later from another dancer I made him cry. Do not fucking waste strippers time! }:D

mediocrity
10-17-2009, 02:57 PM
I had the most fucking annoying customer last night. I sat with him and he kept leading me on making me think we were going to do a dance in five minutes or so. Then he changed his mind and I was having a shitty night and called him out on it, asking him to buy me a drink for my time. I told him it would be a nice thing to do, and he told me this:

"I AM a nice guy. I've told any other girl that came up to me if I didn't want a lap dance from her. I don't HAVE to do that, OK? I AM nice."

?????? what the fuck is that bullshit? If you don't want a dance fucking SAY SO, that guy over there might want one.

Anyway, I told him off a second time and heard later from another dancer I made him cry. Do not fucking waste strippers time! }:D

Oh lord. I've had That Guy before. I've been known to tell them to "Get the hell out of my office!!" and point towards the door. Depends on my mood though. I love referring to my club as my office.

Earl_the_Pearl
10-17-2009, 04:12 PM
Oh lord. I've had That Guy before. I've been known to tell them to "Get the hell out of my office!!" and point towards the door. Depends on my mood though. I love referring to my club as my office.

If more dancers would show their disgust for PLs it would lead to a more honest club experience.

Elvia
10-17-2009, 04:13 PM
^^^ it would be the end of SCs altogether.

guy133
10-17-2009, 05:17 PM
This PL term cracks me up.

bem401
10-17-2009, 05:28 PM
^^^ it would be the end of SCs altogether.

True. As the PLs go, so go the strip clubs.

laurcon
10-17-2009, 05:36 PM
^^ the term PL makes me laugh only because i've only come across them on this site, never in my club.

mediocrity
10-17-2009, 05:41 PM
^^ the term PL makes me laugh only because i've only come across them on this site, never in my club.

oh I know, right? And here a few people seem to think the term in synonymous with customer.

KiwiStrawberry Splenda
10-17-2009, 09:32 PM
I had the most fucking annoying customer last night. I sat with him and he kept leading me on making me think we were going to do a dance in five minutes or so. Then he changed his mind and I was having a shitty night and called him out on it, asking him to buy me a drink for my time. I told him it would be a nice thing to do, and he told me this:

"I AM a nice guy. I've told any other girl that came up to me if I didn't want a lap dance from her. I don't HAVE to do that, OK? I AM nice."

?????? what the fuck is that bullshit? If you don't want a dance fucking SAY SO, that guy over there might want one.

Anyway, I told him off a second time and heard later from another dancer I made him cry. Do not fucking waste strippers time! }:D

They are the worst of the worst scum on earth. I don't think some of the guys who post on here realize how disrespectful these scum are, and how they affect our views on custies in general....

Really, I'd rather have a guy whip his dick out during a dance than waste 30 minutes with a guy who is playing me. At least I have some leverage with dick guy, he can be told to put it away and behave....

Earl_the_Pearl
10-17-2009, 10:36 PM
They are the worst of the worst scum on earth. I don't think some of the guys who post on here realize how disrespectful these scum are, and how they affect our views on custies in general....

Really, I'd rather have a guy whip his dick out during a dance than waste 30 minutes with a guy who is playing me. At least I have some leverage with dick guy, he can be told to put it away and behave....
I know how nasty some PLs can be and I know how nasty dancers can be. Nether bother me though; it is the nature of the business.

yoda57us
10-18-2009, 10:32 AM
^^ the term PL makes me laugh only because i've only come across them on this site, never in my club.

Yeah I've never heard it in a club either. It's pretty much an internet thing. There was a time when the phrase didn't encompass every guy that spends money in a strip club, only the ones who thought that the girls actually liked him...

I haven't heard RIL (regular in love) for a while...that one always cracks me up!

laurcon
10-18-2009, 10:41 AM
i don't mean the term. i mean an actual pathetic loser. they're not in my club, only on this site. and not everyone, but i think some are obvious.

audrey_k
10-18-2009, 01:56 PM
Oh lord. I've had That Guy before. I've been known to tell them to "Get the hell out of my office!!" and point towards the door. Depends on my mood though. I love referring to my club as my office.
Yeah, I just told him he was an asshole and I hoped he didn't come back anymore. :)

I know how nasty some PLs can be and I know how nasty dancers can be. Nether bother me though; it is the nature of the business.
I guess that's easy to say when it's not how you make your living or where you spend half your week.

Earl_the_Pearl
10-18-2009, 02:50 PM
I guess that's easy to say when it's not how you make your living or where you spend half your week.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tk6DPq2_c2M

Juno
10-18-2009, 03:47 PM
^^^That gave me a chuckle.

laurcon
10-18-2009, 09:08 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tk6DPq2_c2M

ya lmao, this was actually a sweet clip!}:D
so on my facebook right now :-*

JayATee
10-19-2009, 06:14 AM
Yeah I've never heard it in a club either. It's pretty much an internet thing. There was a time when the phrase didn't encompass every guy that spends money in a strip club, only the ones who thought that the girls actually liked him...

I haven't heard RIL (regular in love) for a while...that one always cracks me up!

This is only bc Earl decided (on this site anyway) that anyone who entered a SC was a PL. Not that they are, or that all dancers think every guy is like this....

Vyanka
10-19-2009, 09:10 AM
YES!

This annoys me too. Just say no. No one is gonna rip your head off.

:)

yoda57us
10-19-2009, 03:03 PM
This is only bc Earl decided (on this site anyway) that anyone who entered a SC was a PL. Not that they are, or that all dancers think every guy is like this....

I absolutely agree on all points. :)

Earl_the_Pearl
10-19-2009, 04:30 PM
I absolutely agree on all points. :)


As long as you keep your hat on no one will see your point.
:jester:

Hopper
10-20-2009, 12:54 AM
PLs have nothing but time.

I don't have time for dancers I don't fancy to return after the first time. In the time they are talking to me, other dancers I have not met yet or like from a distance could approach me.

I say "no thank you". I learned the hard way - annoyed a couple of dancers.

Hopper
10-20-2009, 01:48 AM
I hate that!! "I'm good." I like your reply. I always say, "You're good? At what?" Dumbdumbs.::)

Stooping to their level is bad for your posture.

Earl_the_Pearl
10-20-2009, 09:55 AM
I don't have time for dancers I don't fancy...
I fancy the lowest bidder.

Elvia
10-20-2009, 02:45 PM
Stooping to their level is bad for your posture.


? /:O ?

It's not exactly a cruel or insulting response.

laurcon
10-21-2009, 09:48 AM
^ yeah i didn't really get that either. a customer saying "i'm good" is annoying to us, but its not mean or insulting, and neither is the response of asking what they're good at. so idk about any stooping to any levels.

Hopper
10-22-2009, 01:09 AM
^I got the impression that the dancers who posted about it were insulted. Otherwise, what about it annoys them? It is either rude or polite.

I didn't imimediately see why "I'm good" would be annoying. Maybe it depends how it is said.

laurcon
10-22-2009, 01:26 AM
^I got the impression that the dancers who posted about it were insulted. Otherwise, what about it annoys them? It is either rude or polite.

I didn't imimediately see why "I'm good" would be annoying. Maybe it depends how it is said.

lmao, and its black or its white, its wrong or its right ;)

xdamage
10-22-2009, 05:59 AM
^I got the impression that the dancers who posted about it were insulted. Otherwise, what about it annoys them? It is either rude or polite.

I didn't imimediately see why "I'm good" would be annoying. Maybe it depends how it is said.

http://www.amazon.com/Stuff-Thought-Language-Window-Nature/dp/0670063274

Recommended (though takes a while to read as his points are often subtle)


One of many key points the author makes, there are two parts to human communication.

The words we say (the data) and the social jockeying for position (the delivery).

Delivery is usually far more complex than simple politeness/rudeness. People can say something apparently simple, but the delivery have layers of meaning that some (more then others) are very tuned into.

That said, it's even possible for the speaker of "I'm good" to be more or less oblivious to their own deeper layers of meaning, and perceive it as trying to be polite (though if they are trying to be polite, it implies it masks underlying rudeness, which some people see clearly).

Hopper
10-23-2009, 03:29 AM
^Imagine worrying about that in every small day-to-day interaction.

femmefatale88
10-28-2009, 07:08 PM
^I got the impression that the dancers who posted about it were insulted. Otherwise, what about it annoys them? It is either rude or polite.

I didn't imimediately see why "I'm good" would be annoying. Maybe it depends how it is said.

"I'm good" is extremely fn annoying because it is rude and curt. How about "I am not buying dances today". How hard is that???

Hopper
10-29-2009, 12:12 AM
^Then we can't change our minds later.

Elvia
10-29-2009, 12:18 AM
^^^ Somehow, I really think it would be ok if you did.

Hopper
10-29-2009, 12:38 AM
^Then all the dancers who asked us up to then think I was lying to them to brush them off.

laurcon
10-29-2009, 12:50 AM
^ then we would realize the girl or girls who got dances must have done something different to change your mind. might have been offered extras, might have been had some better lines, maybe was just more the guys type or a thousand other things. either way, only a dumb bitch would come back to you and be like "omg you said you weren't getting dances!! now you're getting a dance with her!! WTF!"
like lol, i can't even imagine it.

Earl_the_Pearl
10-29-2009, 12:54 AM
^ then we would realize the girl or girls who got dances must have done something different to change your mind. might have been offered extras, might have been had some better lines, maybe was just more the guys type or a thousand other things. either way, only a dumb bitch would come back to you and be like "omg you said you weren't getting dances!! now you're getting a dance with her!! WTF!"
like lol, i can't even imagine it.
It happens all of the time.

Hopper
10-29-2009, 12:59 AM
^^It would still look bad.

laurcon
10-29-2009, 01:01 AM
It happens all of the time.

well i don't know. apparently my 8yrs of experience mean nothing and i'm in a bubble and know nothing about how most strip clubs really work. i mean, we're obviously not talking about crackhead and unprofessional girls here, since us posters here aren't that. they're obviously not going to play by any rules because they have none. so there's no planning for that. all you can do is try to avoid them if you don't like being treated unreasonably.

hockeybobby
10-30-2009, 11:43 AM
"No, thank you" ...with a friendly smile, is still the best response.

Earl_the_Pearl
10-30-2009, 01:16 PM
well i don't know. apparently my 8yrs of experience mean nothing and i'm in a bubble and know nothing about how most strip clubs really work. i mean, we're obviously not talking about crackhead and unprofessional girls here, since us posters here aren't that. they're obviously not going to play by any rules because they have none. so there's no planning for that. all you can do is try to avoid them if you don't like being treated unreasonably.

I made the mistake of telling a dancer what I was driving. I didn't tip her as much as other dancers. ; I had a flat tire when I left the club.

xdamage
11-02-2009, 09:46 AM
^Imagine worrying about that in every small day-to-day interaction.

Personally I let a lot roll off my back and tune a lot out, though I perceive a lot in people's faces, I don't really expect them to be particularly nice to me.

People mostly appear to ignore each other, and are not particularly polite unless they perceive someone else has something they want. So for example, people who want sex from each other, or money, or help, or whatever may turn on the charms, but mostly people just ignore each other as long as they are not a threat.

Even most politeness is obviously pretty shallow ritual and so yea, I don't really notice much anymore. Doesn't bother me because I long ago accepted that is just people.

Some people are more aware of the message behind the words. Some people do a poorer job then others hiding their deeper feelings. A big smile doesn't necessarily mean someone feels that way deep inside.

Some of it could just be the SC, an overload of hotties means customers can end up re-adjusting the volume in their head until again, like everyday life, they are mostly turned out except for the few who really exceptionally turn them on.

"No, Thank You" still seems to be about the least offensive, polite way of saying no.

Shy_Guy
11-02-2009, 11:11 AM
^ either way, only a dumb bitch would come back to you and be like "omg you said you weren't getting dances!! now you're getting a dance with her!! WTF!"
like lol, i can't even imagine it.

Yes, this does happen all the time. Which is why I stick with "no thank you" no matter how many times she asks, and keeps asking. No thank you no thank you no thank you, that's my answer and I'm sticking to it!

Blue_Dust_Bunny
11-02-2009, 11:20 AM
The reason "I'm good" is so annoying (worse than no, thank you) imo is because it implies that you are satisfied ("good") with the experience you are currently getting - the "just sitting here sipping a beer staring at the stage and not buying dances" experience.

sloppymonkey
11-08-2009, 10:52 AM
"No, thank you" ...with a friendly smile, is still the best response.

This has been my standard answer. (That I learned from lurking here) But the last few times I've gotten "why?" from some of the dancers, which leads to an awkward situation...

laurcon
11-08-2009, 02:02 PM
This has been my standard answer. (That I learned from lurking here) But the last few times I've gotten "why?" from some of the dancers, which leads to an awkward situation...

man you guys are wimps. i'd laugh so hard if a girl asked why. i'd just laugh and not say anything like she's joking. if she asks why again i'd say "i'm just not that into you". they need to learn how to be a better salesperson.

Earl_the_Pearl
11-08-2009, 03:53 PM
This has been my standard answer. (That I learned from lurking here) But the last few times I've gotten "why?" from some of the dancers, which leads to an awkward situation...
If a dancer asks "wanna dance" and rubs up agents me I'll give her two dollars and say no thank you. If she asks why I tell her my big head stops thinking and I empty my wallet; that is also the truth. :-[

Earl_the_Pearl
11-08-2009, 03:57 PM
man you guys are wimps. i'd laugh so hard if a girl asked why. i'd just laugh and not say anything like she's joking. if she asks why again i'd say "i'm just not that into you". If that happened to you you would be the first to run to a bouncer and say that PL touched me, throw him out. Fortunately in these hard times of no PLs we are not likely to be asked to leave.

laurcon
11-08-2009, 04:06 PM
If that happened to you you would be the first to run to a bouncer and say that PL touched me, throw him out. Fortunately in these hard times of no PLs we are not likely to be asked to leave.

do you not read my posts at all ever? my guests are not pathetic losers! stop trying to bring everyone else down to your level.