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millions_of_peaches
09-01-2009, 07:29 PM
Our bodies haven't caught up yet, we are programmed to eat high calorie foods that the body can store as fat, in case of days of scarcity. Many of these foods are actually 'addictive', especially once the manufacturers add certain chemicals and sugars. Then throw in the fact that the 'food' is nutritionally empty; once consumed, the body realizes that it is nutritionally lacking, and decides we need more food. Unfortunately, marketing (and manufacturing) companies like to capitalize on that. Feed us foods that make use want more food = $$$, after all, we multiply faster than we die. Long term monetary security.

Since we no longer have to walk more than ten steps to get all that food, we get fat, and it doesn't help that most people work 8-9hours behind a desk barely moving before you go eat more crap.

xdamage
09-01-2009, 07:33 PM
Our bodies haven't caught up yet, we are programmed to eat high calorie foods that the body can store as fat, in case of days of scarcity.

OMG THANK YOU! I so wanted to read one other person write this.

xdamage
09-01-2009, 07:36 PM
The question is, why do we grow to like "crap" food so much in the first place? There's something about all that "bad" food that tastes so good. If Ice Cream tasted bad, nobody would get fat eating it.

Simple of course... mix fat (very high quantities in ice cream) which is a great carrier smearing flavors and sugars over our tongues plus simple sugars... (which triggers multi-million year old genetic triggers = quick/cheap fast calories) and the wiring in our brain says YES. EAT NOW WHILE WE CAN!

p.s. okay maybe it is not quite that simple but I suspect there is some truth to it ;)

millions_of_peaches
09-01-2009, 07:37 PM
my bad

Shy_Guy
09-01-2009, 07:38 PM
One way to fight obesity while chowing down high-calorie diets:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/booster_shots/2008/09/lessons-from-th.html

xdamage
09-01-2009, 07:38 PM
my bad

I loved everything about your post... exactly how I see it.

princessjas
09-01-2009, 07:40 PM
The question is, why do we grow to like "crap" food so much in the first place? There's something about all that "bad" food that tastes so good. If Ice Cream tasted bad, nobody would get fat eating it. It would be so much easier if we just couldn't get enough spinach and spent our time hiding the chocolate cake under the mashed potatoes.

File under "more things that taste good, too good:"
http://health.yahoo.com/experts/eatthis/36451/the-best-and-worst-pizzas-in-america/

Personally, I hate Ice Cream...and have only eaten it a few times when I was starving and at the beach where it was hot. Everyone doesn't like crap btw.

millions_of_peaches
09-01-2009, 07:44 PM
aren't you just lovely

princessjas
09-01-2009, 07:48 PM
aren't you just lovely

I'm confused? Why are you being nasty? I have never claimed I don't like all sweets.

Mentioning that everyone doesn't like all sweets should not be a reason to have nasty comments made imo.

millions_of_peaches
09-01-2009, 07:53 PM
I'm confused? Why are you being nasty? I have never claimed I don't like all sweets.

Mentioning that everyone doesn't like all sweets should not be a reason to have nasty comments made imo.


Not you, sweetheart, perhaps we posted at the same time, I should have made it clear. I was referring to Xdamage's need to be snarky. The post above you. I would not be deliberately rude to you for an opinion or post. I apologize for upsetting you.

xdamage
09-01-2009, 07:58 PM
Not you, sweetheart, perhaps we posted at the same time, I should have made it clear. I was referring to Xdamage's need to be snarky. The post above you. I would not be deliberately rude to you for an opinion or post. I apologize for upsetting you.

??? you totally misread... i wasnt being snarky in the least.. I was sincere

MarvelGirl
09-01-2009, 09:03 PM
The question is, why do we grow to like "crap" food so much in the first place? There's something about all that "bad" food that tastes so good. If Ice Cream tasted bad, nobody would get fat eating it. It would be so much easier if we just couldn't get enough spinach and spent our time hiding the chocolate cake under the mashed potatoes.


Actually if you stop eating it for awhile, it doesn't taste good anymore. I had some ice cream for the first time in over a year last week and I couldn't eat more than 2 spoonfuls of it. It was way too sweet.

If you want to rationalize your diet to yourself go right ahead, but don't expect everyone else to agree that there's some "magical" reason why shit food tastes good when you've been eating it every day for 20+ years. You're used to it so you like it, if you forced yourself to give it up and quit eating it, you'd start to like other things.

It's really not rocket science.

vmurphy252
09-01-2009, 09:11 PM
Since I've changed my diet, I've been noticing how SALTY some things are....

vmurphy252
09-01-2009, 09:13 PM
^And I don't want to hear any snarky comments about salty substances...

xdamage
09-01-2009, 09:14 PM
^^^ Eh? Are you dissing Pig Rinds now too?

Gia2608
09-01-2009, 09:15 PM
In Canada we ban tobacco ads...why are fastfood places allowed to entice us with so much advertisements? They have playgrounds INSIDE mcdees...Our children associating fun with crap food? Birthday fun and all is to be had within the GoldenArches...Obesity and overweight children? There should be extra tax for toxic food...just a thought!8)


Canada has crazy advertising laws though. you can not suggest that anything will help you lose weight. I wish you guys could see the real "Jarred" subway ads.


But back on topic, I don't think it's ok to be FAT but I do think a lot of people misconstrue what fat actually is. I think a person who is like 10 lbs overweight for their height isn't fat, but a person who is 30 is.

stressed
09-01-2009, 09:22 PM
Personally, I hate Ice Cream...and have only eaten it a few times when I was starving and at the beach where it was hot. Everyone doesn't like crap btw.

I have never liked sweets....dont know why.

I do love all things spicy though.....
the spicier the better;)

vmurphy252
09-01-2009, 09:23 PM
^^^ Eh? Are you dissing Pig Rinds now too?
Not the substance I was worried about comments on. But I am not a fan of pork rinds anyway...

xdamage
09-01-2009, 09:49 PM
But I am not a fan of pork rinds anyway...

So double diss on the pig rinds... be careful where you sleep tonight "friend"... rumor has it that the Pig Rind counsel has people in high places.

vmurphy252
09-01-2009, 09:55 PM
I'll watch my back...

princessjas
09-02-2009, 03:34 AM
I have never liked sweets....dont know why.

I do love all things spicy though.....
the spicier the better;)

With you on the spicy! hehe, Unfortunately I've also got a thing for salty snacks. Dill spears, pepper rings and Olives are my big vices. hehe }:D

vmurphy252
09-02-2009, 05:45 AM
With you on the spicy! hehe, Unfortunately I've also got a thing for salty snacks. Dill spears, pepper rings and Olives are my big vices. hehe }:D

Dill spears... <Beavis and Butthead laugh>

Melonie
09-02-2009, 09:35 AM
now that smoking has been demonized, and gov't health care costs are rising, the gov't is starting a tobacco-like battlle to tax and regulate fattie foods ...

(snip)"LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Increasingly vocal calls for taxes on sugary drinks and junk food are fueling a behind- the-scenes battle that public health officials say is reminiscent of America's war on cigarettes.

The U.S. obesity epidemic has blossomed into a public health crisis and overweight adolescents are starting to suffer problems that used to plague middle-aged adults -- early heart disease and type 2 diabetes.

While restaurant operators and food and soda makers promote personal responsibility and moderation, backers of the taxes say levies on foods that quickly add extra pounds are a necessary part of any successful anti-obesity effort.

Backers suggest taxes could help offset the estimated $147 billion cost of treating obesity-related diseases and fund programs to battle the expanding girths of Americans"(snip)

from

DorianGrey
09-02-2009, 09:54 AM
I want people to eat healthier, but that DEFINATELY isn't a good way to make that happen. Government, get ouf of my damn kitchen or I'm tossing this hot pasta on you! :p

*DG*

Djoser
09-02-2009, 10:06 AM
No offense, but I don't think this kind of tough love is helping any. Calling people pigs and fatties just puts them on the defensive. And do we really want to encourage the idea that sexual attractiveness is firmly tied to weight?

No offense taken. And yes we do want to encourage the idea that sexual attractiveness is firmly tied to weight. Last time I checked we were working in a business dedicated to putting naked people onstage, and really fat naked people look terrible up there.

Sorry, I'm not here to show loving to 400 pound people under the illusion that anyone but a freakshow fan is going to find them the least bit attractive. If they find the use of the term 'pig' or 'fattie' offensive, maybe they should join a forum for grossly overweight people, instead of a forum for people who get naked onstage.

Vesper
09-02-2009, 10:33 AM
One of the most ridiculous headline (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1210665/Fat-bus-drivers-ordered-lose-weight-breaking-seats.html)s I've ever seen.:O

MarvelGirl
09-02-2009, 10:45 AM
^^^
Why is that ridiculous? They're breaking seats due to being grossly overweight. If that happens while they are driving they could kill a whole bus full of people. People shouldn't have to die because one human being refuses to control himself.

princessjas
09-02-2009, 10:55 AM
^^^
Why is that ridiculous? They're breaking seats due to being grossly overweight. If that happens while they are driving they could kill a whole bus full of people. People shouldn't have to die because one human being refuses to control himself.

Maybe she meant that it is ridiculous that they have to force people to stay thin enough to not break a bus seat. Cause, just damn, that suprises me a bit too. Plus it's hilarious that it was worthy of an article. Slow news day maybe?

MarvelGirl
09-02-2009, 11:00 AM
^^^
That's true. You would think the first time you broke a bus seat that'd be a wakeup call, right? LOL

Miss L
09-02-2009, 11:07 AM
What is sad about body image and health in America is the amount of anger and hatred we project onto people who are fat--yes, obesity IS a major problem, I don't dispute that. But the need for acceptance is also very real--not acceptance of unhealthy lifestyles, which have a LOT to do with how cities are planned, options available when you're poor, etc., but acceptance of human beings, no matter how uncomfortable they make us.
Ours is a culture that worships advertising and places a lot of emphasis on doing it yourself, pulling yourself up by the bootstraps (even if you have no boots), disciplining ourselves to look and behave in ways formed by the ever-shifting world of advertising--we're supposed to have it all, and that includes our bodies. Fat bodies, disabled bodies, "ugly" bodies, disturb us because they remind of of our own deepest fears. Those bodies are inhabited by human beings. A simple recognition of that fact would go a LONG way toward clearing the smoke of hatred, which by the way does nothing to help people make better choices, it just drives them to depression.
We are a society that has made exercise regimes and diets of all stripes seem necessary because we are not nearly as active as we used to be. Cities are sprawling suburbs where you have to drive everywhere and the nearest food option is an Arby's. Corn field after corn field throughout the midwest, where I attended college, supplies cheap feed, ethanol, and corn syrup and oil--foodstuffs that make you fat, sluggish and unhealthy, and that are hard to avoid in processed foods. We have created a huge health and lifestyle disaster and now sit in the middle of it and cry "epedemic!" Well, duh, that's what happens when you rape the earth in order to feed an endless cycle of consumption and competition.

DEE_K
09-02-2009, 12:37 PM
It is so refreshing for me to see the posts in this thread!

I am so sick of the weird double standard that has developed in order to protect the feelings of the overweight. Just a couple days ago I had a chubby waitress come over to me and tell me that I better gain some weight because I am too thin. No, I am a completely healthy weight for my height and happen to have a really fast metabolism. However, it would be rude for me to tell her to drop some weight.

I hate how it is ok for overweight women to talk about how they are "real women" and write books about how skinny women are all bitches. They basically get to call me fake and a bitch, and it is somehow ok because I am thin. I am also sick of comments like "real women have...curves, a little meat, etc."

I once walked into a store and after asking me for my size, the overweight female sales clerk gave me a casual "you're so skinny, I hate you!" and I promptly asked for another clerk (they work on commission in that store). I was so tempted to say something like "you're so fat, I hate you" but I hate drama. She seemed shocked, and I don't think she even clued in as to why I would not want her getting commission on the clothes I buy with the money I make from having this body.

I am also sick of the constant input into my life, telling me to try protein shakes or eat a little junk to gain weight. As it happens I do eat a little bit of junk, but for the most part am careful about what I put into my body. My doctor said I am completely healthy for my height / build. If anything I should be giving those people advise, but that would somehow be rude!?!

Almost Jaded
09-02-2009, 12:55 PM
Are we going to start on the double standards in society now? LOL - that goes WAY past the weight discussion!

Free speech! No censorship! First amendment! If you don't like it change the channel or don't buy it! Unless - OF COURSE - you're white, male, christian, straight or any combination of those. Then you cannot say anything that could be taken as a racial, sexist or anti-gay, and you sure as HELL can't have anything even faintly smelling of religion in public places. Free speech can't cover THAT - it's not right by our double-standard!

Or what about "My constitutional rights are violated! I can say this/do this/etc because the Constitution says I can! But you're fucking crazy if you want to own a GUN - the founding fathers didn't intend for us to carry GUNS, they're EVIL! And even if they DID, they're POV is outdated and antiquated because it's not necessary these days. What? What do you mean they couldn't have forseen the way I'm abusing the other rights either and I'm holding a double standard?"

There's a start...

DEE_K
09-02-2009, 01:41 PM
Obviously double standards exist in society. I certainly wasn't saying that the only double standards in existance were those regarding how it is acceptable to talk to thin people vs. overweight people.

This thread was about the fat acceptance movement, and the double standard is one of the ways it has gone too far in my opinion. I was not attempting to change the topic to double standards in general.

Also, since I'm not American, can't comment on that last part.

justifymylove
09-02-2009, 03:37 PM
No offense taken. And yes we do want to encourage the idea that sexual attractiveness is firmly tied to weight. Last time I checked we were working in a business dedicated to putting naked people onstage, and really fat naked people look terrible up there.

Sorry, I'm not here to show loving to 400 pound people under the illusion that anyone but a freakshow fan is going to find them the least bit attractive. If they find the use of the term 'pig' or 'fattie' offensive, maybe they should join a forum for grossly overweight people, instead of a forum for people who get naked onstage.

Well, with regard to the industry you definitely have a valid point. In broader terms though I disagree, I think weight is about a multitude of things- health, the environment, public health and resources, AND appearance- not solely appearance, and I believe there is a balance between a delusional love-in for obesity and derogatory terms for overweight people.

Almost Jaded
09-02-2009, 04:06 PM
DEE_K - I wasn't implying that you were changing the topic, nor was I really intending too; your comment touched on a long standing pet peeve of mine, an example of which the fat people/skinny people thing is but one of many.

Paris
09-02-2009, 05:07 PM
Wife and I were discussing how to instill these habits in the baby to avoid what we went/are going through. Sounds like just do it yourself and they'll follow? If you cook it, they will eat?

Buy the cookbook "Deceptively Delicious" by Jessica Seinfeld (http://www.amazon.com/Deceptively-Delicious-Simple-Secrets-Eating/dp/B001WAKOXA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1251936344&sr=8-1). It was designed for the child's pallet, but most adults these days eat like they are 6 anyway.

I have this cookbook and mostly use the dessert recipes. But it is a great resource for any parent of a fussy eater.

Paris
09-02-2009, 05:24 PM
now that smoking has been demonized, and gov't health care costs are rising, the gov't is starting a tobacco-like battlle to tax and regulate fattie foods ...

(snip)"LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Increasingly vocal calls for taxes on sugary drinks and junk food are fueling a behind- the-scenes battle that public health officials say is reminiscent of America's war on cigarettes.

The U.S. obesity epidemic has blossomed into a public health crisis and overweight adolescents are starting to suffer problems that used to plague middle-aged adults -- early heart disease and type 2 diabetes.

While restaurant operators and food and soda makers promote personal responsibility and moderation, backers of the taxes say levies on foods that quickly add extra pounds are a necessary part of any successful anti-obesity effort.

Backers suggest taxes could help offset the estimated $147 billion cost of treating obesity-related diseases and fund programs to battle the expanding girths of Americans"(snip)

from http://www.reuters.com/article/healthNews/idUSTRE5806E520090901

That's not a bad idea. The war on cigarettes has been really quite successful, with people giving up the habit all the time. In 1960, 42% of our population were smokers, today we are down to 19%. Maybe the obesity epidemic can be tackled in the same way?

Vesper
09-02-2009, 11:15 PM
^^^
Why is that ridiculous? They're breaking seats due to being grossly overweight. If that happens while they are driving they could kill a whole bus full of people. People shouldn't have to die because one human being refuses to control himself.

I meant that it's ridiculous to even have such headlines. That we're actually in a situation where people are so fat that they break bus seats. Yeah, totally normal and acceptable...real women have broken seats! ::)

Djoser
09-02-2009, 11:36 PM
Well, with regard to the industry you definitely have a valid point. In broader terms though I disagree, I think weight is about a multitude of things- health, the environment, public health and resources, AND appearance- not solely appearance, and I believe there is a balance between a delusional love-in for obesity and derogatory terms for overweight people.

Fair enough. If I really thought a bunch of fat people were reading this thread, I might have been a bit more discrete.

To some extent, though, it could be the cold-hearted nature of the business seeping through into my posting style.

Also, I have very little patience for those few dancers who are clearly overweight (though I have yet to work with one at 400 pounds, lol!), but cannot ever seem to understand why everyone leaves the tiprail, every single time they go up onstage. Over the years I have worked with a lot of these, especially in the rougher clubs.

Sometimes they will scream at me from the stage in their anger (at not getting tipped by anyone), or worse yet even, scream at the customers, who are minding their own business trying not to look at the stage until someone cute is up there again.

It's truly amazing how delusional these seriously overweight dancers will get about how unattractive they are. The managers who go ahead and hire them for the house fees never consider how many customers they are scaring out the door by doing so.

The only thing less attractive than a big fat dancer onstage is one who is yelling at everyone. Such women might need the 'tough love' approach, I don't know. But that's not what I was trying to do earlier, I was just being honest in my manner of speaking, since I didn't expect anyone weighing 400 pounds to read it.

Just last night I was out and went to the last club I worked in, which is right down the street from my present club. They are renowned for having the 'Barbiedoll' types working there, but nonetheless hired a very large unattractive dancer that used to work in my present club, who was fired for having a shitty attitude. Halfway through her set she flung her panties at our table and they landed right next to me.

I wasn't about to touch them or go tip her (she used to stiff me all the time), and my face must have betrayed my emotions. Sure enough, she yelled at me from the stage 'There ain't nothin' wrong with ma panties!!' Which of course didn't help my feeling of revulsion for the damned things. My friend took pity on her and tossed them back. ;D

And this is supposed to be one of the 'nicer' clubs! One of the dancers there used to get pissed off every single time she went up if she didn't get tipped, and she was about 50 pounds overweight, no kidding, so that was frequently the case. But she had plenty of attitude, that's for sure. She was late for stage 3 times one night, and finally I fined her as I was required to do if they were late even once. She blamed me, of course, told me I wasn't 'enunciating' when I announced her name (which was bullshit as I was specifically hired for my clear voice), then went and told the owner a bunch of lies about me to get him mad, which partly worked. But he is an idiot anyway.

I am much happier working down the street, where management doesn't coddle the dancers so much. Though we do still have several that need to get their asses to the gym or go on a diet, they are being told that.

Djoser
09-02-2009, 11:50 PM
That's not a bad idea. The war on cigarettes has been really quite successful, with people giving up the habit all the time. In 1960, 42% of our population were smokers, today we are down to 19%. Maybe the obesity epidemic can be tackled in the same way?

Great idea but it will never happen. McDonalds and the other Fast Food giants have too much clout. Last I heard McDonalds owned more grazing beef type farmland than anyone else in the country.

Hopefully I am wrong! They are already clearly aware of the issue as they have low-calorie items on the menu and they advertise it plainly as that. Also look at the political muscle the tobacco companies had, and yet they were forced to stop advertising how cool it was to kill yourself with cigarettes.

zenrain83
10-13-2009, 06:47 PM
Man, this thread really got me motivated to lose that last 30lbs!!! I've been overweight since age 15 or so.. and this is just what i needed. Thanks everyone!

Almost Jaded
10-13-2009, 06:51 PM
I dunno - MM has gained 30 lbs in the last 8 months an has never looked better, lol!

Than again, I've gained 20 in that same time and - well, not the same results, lol. :(

princessjas
10-13-2009, 07:47 PM
I dunno - MM has gained 30 lbs in the last 8 months an has never looked better, lol!

Than again, I've gained 20 in that same time and - well, not the same results, lol. :(

Don't worry AJ, I'm sure you look great. Personally, I prefer men that are a bit more substantial anyway.

vmurphy252
10-13-2009, 09:50 PM
^I'm very substantial... intellectually too...

Corey
10-14-2009, 12:02 AM
Sad, but true. I consider it a preventative health measure, and I'm thankful I can afford it. As for junk food - you eat like crap, you look/feel like crap. It sucks that many cannot afford to eat well when they really want to and that our government/people in high places would rather profit off off the whole vicious fucken cycle than do something about it.

I saw this documentary where a couple who earned minimum wage could only spend $5 on dinner for themselves & their two children. First, they went to the grocery to see what they could afford for that amount. Their daughter picked 2 pears, but when they did the math, those 2 pears would cost $4! They put them back & ended up getting 2 burgers for $2 at some fast food joint. :(

Just the other day I bought bananas, yogurt and cut -up watermelon and it came to just over $6. You could modify that and come up w/ something healthy for $5.


Btw, that was my breakfast for 4 days. Who says you can't eat healthy on a budget.

Earl_the_Pearl
10-14-2009, 12:05 AM
I saw this documentary where a couple who earned minimum wage could only spend $5 on dinner for themselves & their two children. First, they went to the grocery to see what they could afford for that amount.
Brown rice and beans one can live forever on that.

mediocrity
10-14-2009, 03:16 PM
It is so refreshing for me to see the posts in this thread!

I am so sick of the weird double standard that has developed in order to protect the feelings of the overweight. Just a couple days ago I had a chubby waitress come over to me and tell me that I better gain some weight because I am too thin. No, I am a completely healthy weight for my height and happen to have a really fast metabolism. However, it would be rude for me to tell her to drop some weight.

I hate how it is ok for overweight women to talk about how they are "real women" and write books about how skinny women are all bitches. They basically get to call me fake and a bitch, and it is somehow ok because I am thin. I am also sick of comments like "real women have...curves, a little meat, etc."
I once walked into a store and after asking me for my size, the overweight female sales clerk gave me a casual "you're so skinny, I hate you!" and I promptly asked for another clerk (they work on commission in that store). I was so tempted to say something like "you're so fat, I hate you" but I hate drama. She seemed shocked, and I don't think she even clued in as to why I would not want her getting commission on the clothes I buy with the money I make from having this body.

I am also sick of the constant input into my life, telling me to try protein shakes or eat a little junk to gain weight. As it happens I do eat a little bit of junk, but for the most part am careful about what I put into my body. My doctor said I am completely healthy for my height / build. If anything I should be giving those people advise, but that would somehow be rude!?!

That irks the shit out of me. I have also gotten that from posting a picture on this website.

Don't tell me you want to feed me. And if anyone ever called me "thick" or "meaty" I think I would die.

Some people are naturally thin from metabolism, some people (like myself) were brought up with no soda, junk food etc so we never developed a taste for it. I mean I like salt and vinegar chips, but I will buy a bag once a month. I hate chocolate. I actually can't remember the last time I ate a dessert.

If you have a slow metabolism, compensate. Figure out your caloric needs. It doesn't make you any more of a woman to be fatter than me.

Fact: It irritates the hell out of me when fat women say they are curvy. I mean I suppose they are, but in a lumpy way, not a Marilyn Monroe way.

Trem
10-14-2009, 03:29 PM
A big part of the problem is that not even fat people like fat people. Specially guys, i know plenty of fat asses who would never consider dating a fat chick. They honestly rather be alone than date someone who is as fat as them.

Almost Jaded
10-14-2009, 03:53 PM
^LMAO at that - it's so very true!

Can I also state that I HATE IT when a heavy girl hits on me, and get's ten different kinds of offended when Im not interested. And I don't mean up in my face "it's because I'm fat, isn't it" - I don't mind that, I can simply be just as straight up and say "I'm skinny, and I don't date girls that weigh more than me That's a lot of leeway, I don't mind some meat - but you can't weigh more than I do". No - I mean the passive-aggressive shit, working around the subject and trying to make me say I don't like you because you're fat. Which isn't even I don't like you, it's I am in no way attracted to you physically. Anyway - [/rant]

Med - I am SOOOO with you there. I wish I had your natural eating habits, but I'm the other way around - I've had a weasel's metabolism my whole life and ate whatever the fuck I wnted whenever I wanted too in whatever quantity I cared to - and never gained an ounce, literally. Now it's catching up to me, 'cuz I have shitty eating habits and the faithful burn-it-all-no-matter-what metabolism is slowing, lol. Anyway - my whole life, all I heard was "we need o feed you!" "look at you, you need to eat!" and crap like that. Bitch I eat enough for everyone at this table, 4 times a damned day, lol. At one point when I was playing sports I was on a 12,000 calorie PER DAY diet to try and fatten me up. It was like crack for my system - I couldn't sleep, ran a fever, and was hyperactive as hell for a week. Didn't gain a pound. Dr took some blood and ran some tests and was like "you're burning more calories sitting there than most people do power walking, and that's not good for you. Stop the protein shakes." LOL :rolleyes:

PJ - I appreciate the sentiment, but the fact is I have added a nice 5 lbs spread around to fill out my features, and 15 straight to my gut. I'm not fat, 173 on a 6'1" frame still counts me as healthy or even a little underweight - but I have never had a shred of fat on my body and it's driving me insane, lol. I can't see my belt buckle. That's weird.

As opposed to MM - she isn't dancing much now and went on the pill, and gained 30 lbs very quickly. BUT - I keep telling her her body has a "fat distribution artistic director" in there. She has a tiny gay man in her body somewhere saying "okay, the first 3 lbs will go to the breasts (small A to small C in 60 days), then a few to the already amazing ass and we'll fill out the thighs and hips to match it, okay now just a smidge to the tummy, yeah - right there, a nice girlie pooch but keep it flat and firm! Okay, good - now just a little in the face and arms to keep it balanced - PERFECT! STOP!" and she hasn't gained another ounce since, lol. She went from super thin and awkward but hot European model body to straight off the nose of a WWII P-51 Mustang '40's pinup girl. HAWT AS HELL! Even died her hair and cut her bangs to go with the look - dead ringer for Betty Paige now, no exaggeration. [/bragging about my hot as hell fiance]

BUT - she also is cognizant of the fact that she's walking a fine line now, and says several times a week - "I need to watch these new curves, if they start to get lumpy Im heading straight to the gym for a week straight with no rest", lol.

THAT'S "curvy", THAT'S "healthy" THAT'S "a real woman". ;)

Kellydancer
10-14-2009, 09:57 PM
Fact: It irritates the hell out of me when fat women say they are curvy. I mean I suppose they are, but in a lumpy way, not a Marilyn Monroe way.

My pet peeve is this. I am a "true" curvy woman, that is to say I have large breasts. However, I am not fat in any way shape or form (the heaviest I've ever been is 10, but 6-8 dancing). Yet when I'd interview dancers and they'd say they were "curvy" they were usually fat. Curvy is not the same as fat. Marilyn Monroe was curvy, so are modern day women like Selma Hayek and Jennifer Lopez. Not the same thing as say Rosie O'Donnell. eah, and I really love when fat women have said both of were "thick". No I am not, fatso probably is.

I won't get started on how angry I was when a few clubs I worked at started hiring fat asses to dance just so they can make more in house. The thing is it scared off many other dancers.