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malayataylor
11-24-2009, 12:05 AM
I worry about getting busted, everyone does. Screen, screen, screen.

I usually use an incall. But motels get ... candles, febreeze (to get "sex smell" out of room), lotions, unscented soaps. I pick up travel packs of toothpaste and toothbrushes, deodorant, (99 each at target) for my clients after they shower/visit (They're paying me a lot of money, what's me giving them a couple of bucks worth of toiletries?) Bottles of water, 7UP, Cokes. I never drink while working but if a gentleman brings a bottle I like having mixers.

If I see the cleaning lady cart, I steal an armful of towels. Or go to the pool area and grab a bunch.

Always, if you see more than one man a day, make sure the room always looks like he's the first one to visit, even garbage cans. I grab condom wrappers, etc and throw in the drycleaning bag and put THAT whole "bag of garbage" in a drawer. No one wants to be "guy #2 (3,4)". Also hide the dirty towels in another drawer. Make sure you remember to put everything out of these drawers when you leave.

Very well said!

MsClaireVoyant
11-24-2009, 01:21 AM
I love reading this thread! I find all this stuff super fascinating. I feel the same as you about not picking a guy over your job... until a man is going to pay for EVERYTHING for me then I feel he has no right to have a problem with me stripping, being in porn or whatever the hell else I do to pay my bills.

malayataylor
11-24-2009, 02:01 AM
I love reading this thread! I find all this stuff super fascinating. I feel the same as you about not picking a guy over your job... until a man is going to pay for EVERYTHING for me then I feel he has no right to have a problem with me stripping, being in porn or whatever the hell else I do to pay my bills.

I'm glad i started it! Just a couple months ago i was just starting out with the agency and completely clueless about the industry now i'm doing my own thing indy and loving it!

Yup NO man will ever have a say in what i do for a living unless he puts a fat ring on it ..maybe then i'll listen. It's actually a fun job....ha! Yesterday i had a 5 hour appointment...we went to a wine bar by the lake and then to his HUGE house...i had alotta fun..usually i wouldn't accept such a long appointment short notice but i did since it wasn't that far away and was screened via Preferred 411 (I trust them). After january i'll be working one week a month, I really don't need 10k a month to live and i've seen i can pay all of my expenses and live good just working a week or two here and there.

So it's all good! Will continue to keep you all posted!

bambi here's a SCREENING TIP: When a client fills out your contact form or sends you his particulars (numbers, company info, company website) just don't assume it's legit. ..GOOGLE it always!! You don't know how many girls don't google the info. Always use the number you find on google to verify him. You can call the number he gives you but when in doubt utilize google..it'll save you a lot of unneccesary drama. has some damn good screening tips. It's free to sign up for her mailing list you dont have to pay a thing ...it's a good start if you absolutely don't now how to screen and screen well. (Think i sent you a text message with this info)

Always ask for 2-3 forms of ID. One ID just isn't good enough...it could be a fake. Some say it's "too much to ask"...bull...If the guy wants to see you he won't mind Hope this helps!

babybambi08
11-24-2009, 11:31 AM
How does everyone deal with the lonelymess? Not haven't anyone other than clients to talk to ( in person) I tour alot and I hate the lonelyness!!!!!

KhymDanyels
11-24-2009, 11:38 AM
Awesome and I am glad for you!!! Now....just keep to the rules of the agency...get your stuff straight..and go indy, like i did. (i love being indy) Or dont go indy. lol. it is a LOT of work. Everyday I'm hustling. lol

Take the good with the bad....bank what you can...always have an exit strategy. By exit strategy..i mean what are you going to do after you are done with the agency? Always, always be safe...your safety comes FIRST.

One more hint...always listen to what your gut feeling says. It can and will save your life...trust me. I know.

Personally..I love what I do. Now, to get my body tight again and get back to my roots...dancing. lol.

yogibear179
11-24-2009, 03:13 PM
thanks so much for all this information!

it really is so great!

its nice to see you growing in your business :)

yogibear179
11-24-2009, 03:15 PM
also, how does touring work?

do you have clients in mind when you travel or do you just jump in?

KhymDanyels
11-24-2009, 04:19 PM
also, how does touring work?

do you have clients in mind when you travel or do you just jump in?


Since I am new to this site...I am not sure how to answer this question...and if i say something i am not supposed to, then i suppose the post will just be removed

Touring can be tricky. I will post ads, and research the market of where I want to tour at. I adjust rates accordingly. I research the area of where i want to visit...check out the local scene..post ads on local boards..

Touring is NOT cheap and thats why i will not visit anywhere unless i have a substantial amount of bookings. I plan my visits sometimes months in advance..to see if there is interest and all that.

If anyone wants more, feel free to pm me!! The last tour i did was LA...and wow! it went great, but that is because i did all the prep work and stuff. If i dont have a substantial amount of appointments lined up, then i just dont go.

malayataylor
11-24-2009, 04:19 PM
also, how does touring work?

do you have clients in mind when you travel or do you just jump in?

"Touring" is basically working outside of your home base. My home base is in charlotte, NC ..I'll be traveling to VA beach in jan to work for a week..that's touring. What do you mean by "Do you have clients in mind when you travel or do you just jump in"... I'm kinda confused by that question.

Before a companion tours it's wise for her to advertise like hell....I mean you gotta make the trip worth it..ya know? I know a girl that made $4000 in florida during a tour(usually just a week or two) and another girl that make only 2k. Please i'm not advicing anyone to go to florida..i've heard business sucks there.

Another thing is just because one state is good for someone dosen't mean it'll be good for you. White girls do better than black girls in some states...and black girls do better than white girls in other states...

My advice to the touring companion is...If you're going to tour ..Plan ahead of time and double your advertising to see results.

Hope this helps

P.s try to go where the money is at. Study the states before you go... For instance i know a girl that went to NY and made less than 1k in a week but when she went to the outskirts she banked (over 3k).

KhymDanyels
11-24-2009, 04:25 PM
"Touring" is basically working outside of your home base. My home base is in charlotte, NC ..I'll be traveling to VA beach in jan to work for a week..that's touring. What do you mean by "Do you have clients in mind when you travel or do you just jump in"... I'm kinda confused by that question.

Before a companion tours it's wise for her to advertise like hell....I mean you gotta make the trip worth it..ya know? I know a girl that made $4000 in florida during a tour(usually just a week or two) and another girl that make only 2k. Please i'm not advicing anyone to go to florida..i've heard business sucks there.

Another thing is just because one state is good for someone dosen't mean it'll be good for you. White girls do better than black girls in some states...and black girls do better than white girls in other states...

My advice to the touring companion is...If you're going to tour ..Plan ahead of time and double your advertising to see results.

Hope this helps


Boston is good i hear. I am working on that tour now. lol
Also..check out local boards of where you want to go...work the chat rooms. let them know who you are, what you are about...but be careful about giving out too much info. The key is...generate interest, get the bookings before you go out there. Have a set dollar amount goal in mind. Helps me out to have a goal.

malayataylor
11-24-2009, 04:38 PM
Boston is good i hear. I am working on that tour now. lol
Also..check out local boards of where you want to go...work the chat rooms. let them know who you are, what you are about...but be careful about giving out too much info. The key is...generate interest, get the bookings before you go out there. Have a set dollar amount goal in mind. Helps me out to have a goal.


GIRLLLLLL, I hear boston is where it's at! I'll have to plan that tour after the holidays....right now credit card bills are being paid and ppl are spending like crazy for the holidays. I'll have to tour boston early next year when the holiday hype dies down...

I agree with chatting on local boards to gain rapor with hobbyists and other companions ....so people know you and know you're legit. Another thing is NOT to just advertise on the boards but also engage in conversations on your free time...and try not to come of as catty.

Another thing...PICTURES..POST sexy CLASSY pictures! (Don't have the time to go into that now)

KhymDanyels
11-24-2009, 04:46 PM
That is when i plan on going...after the holidays. right now, i am trying to stack as much as i can with my local market...hence, going back into dancing and stuff. I know business is about to die down...lol.

But yes...Boston i heard is a gold mine. I know a few ladies..black ladies...who have made a killing in three days...so, for now, i am researching local boards and stuff....seeing what is up.

Another area is Pittsburgh, PA....and i am already on a site that is region specific. pm me for details.

malayataylor
11-24-2009, 04:48 PM
That is when i plan on going...after the holidays. right now, i am trying to stack as much as i can with my local market...hence, going back into dancing and stuff. I know business is about to die down...lol.

But yes...Boston i heard is a gold mine. I know a few ladies..black ladies...who have made a killing in three days...so, for now, i am researching local boards and stuff....seeing what is up.

Another area is Pittsburgh, PA....and i am already on a site that is region specific. pm me for details.

Ummm..I'm pming you right now. lol

Kylea2
11-25-2009, 03:59 AM
Just like there are other things in my life you AREN'T aware of which is why i choose to remain quiet about what i do. Why is it any of your business what i do with my boyfriend? What authority do you have to tell me to break things off with him? I know how he would react because his ex girlfriend was a stripper and he didn't take things well when she told him. When i need help with my relationship i will tell you ok lol. Funny how anyone would tell me about the muslim religion not knowing fully about the religion themselves. Did you know in liberia there are different tribes? Each tribe is different. The culture, the way they think is different ..it's not just about being muslim ...it's everything. I know him YOU don't ok.

I'm going to stop arguing with clueless people about MY boyfriend. If you don't have anything smart to say to me than to argue with me about MY MAN...then don't say it at all. There are providers that are married and their man knows nothing about them escorting and you're telling me to break up with my man? comedy. As long as i'm heathy and doing the right things i'm good. So once again...you need to let the business with MY man go. I am NOT one of these girls on sw that let other girls tell them what to do with their relationship. I am a smart and strong woman and can CLEARLY make decisions on my own. Thanks for your input.

People aren't as clueless as you'd like to think. I'm not going to get into it with you, but I probably know a lot more about this than I care to announce on this forum.

Laurcon stated a personal question she would have for herself if she were in the industry. You answered it (even though it wasn't necessarily directed at you - more like talking aloud) by telling us all that you were lying to your boyfriend... so if you don't want people having an opinion about that then you are better off to just not post that information. Now you are trying to justify it by saying you know other girls that do it too. Just because other people do things doesn't make it right. I'm given you suggestions based off the fact that you already know he doesn't like this industry. I could tell you exactly what I think... but I'll resist the temptation.



Yup NO man will ever have a say in what i do for a living unless he puts a fat ring on it ..maybe then i'll listen.

Don't ever count on a man... ever. A modern woman should know how to stand on her own two feet. Think about all the women that get married, quit their jobs, get divorced years later (or their SO/husband loses his job or passes away) and they have nothing to put on their resume. A lot of them end up working boring dead end jobs. Even if you get married... keep your job or do volunteer work - even if it's just for a few hours a week. It will keep your skills up and make you more marketable in case anything were to ever happen.

malayataylor
11-25-2009, 07:03 AM
People aren't as clueless as you'd like to think. I'm not going to get into it with you, but I probably know a lot more about this than I care to announce on this forum.

Laurcon stated a personal question she would have for herself if she were in the industry. You answered it (even though it wasn't necessarily directed at you - more like talking aloud) by telling us all that you were lying to your boyfriend... so if you don't want people having an opinion about that then you are better off to just not post that information. Now you are trying to justify it by saying you know other girls that do it too. Just because other people do things doesn't make it right. I'm given you suggestions based off the fact that you already know he doesn't like this industry. I could tell you exactly what I think... but I'll resist the temptation.


I'm only replying to this because Ms. Kylea is a keypad warrior and have obviously been DREAMING about me for the last two days.

I left this alone two days ago and have moved passed it. You are NOT going to tell me what to do with my relationship. ... So please do yourself a favor and leave the subject about my boyfriend alone. You don't know me...neither do i know you...I'm done talking to YOU about this. I really hope i've made myself clear. I do NOT care about what you THINK you know about the industry and i wouldn't give a shit if you were an escort before you became a dancer...Your opinion means NOTHING to me. I repeat, Your opinion means NOTHING to me!
You are a very stupid and clueless girl ..yes i said CLUELESS... You know nothing about my life so if you're going to attack me on this board..please come correct.





Don't ever count on a man... ever. A modern woman should know how to stand on her own two feet. Think about all the women that get married, quit their jobs, get divorced years later (or their SO/husband loses his job or passes away) and they have nothing to put on their resume. A lot of them end up working boring dead end jobs. Even if you get married... keep your job or do volunteer work - even if it's just for a few hours a week. It will keep your skills up and make you more marketable in case anything were to ever happen.

You're telling me something I already know. YOu must think you're the only one with a brain. Fool.

malayataylor
11-25-2009, 09:25 AM
On a lighter note: For those of you ladie that have access to my website (No is NOT my escort website..It's my indycamsite) ..You can check out the pics from my recent photoshoot (Just added a few for now). I just added them this morning and have gotten 4 appoinment requests already. This is why i stress to add HOT SEXY but CLASSY pictures! I have also watermarked my pictures so escort malls don't steal them. I have heard in the past that this helps but dosen't fully guarantee they won't steal em'.

Hope this helps and if you would like my site link pm me..

lilmisssunshine
11-25-2009, 09:44 AM
I'm only replying to this because Ms. Kylea is a keypad warrior and have obviously been DREAMING about me for the last two days.

I left this alone two days ago and have moved passed it. You are NOT going to tell me what to do with my relationship. ... So please do yourself a favor and leave the subject about my boyfriend alone. You don't know me...neither do i know you...I'm done talking to YOU about this. I really hope i've made myself clear. I do NOT care about what you THINK you know about the industry and i wouldn't give a shit if you were an escort before you became a dancer...Your opinion means NOTHING to me. I repeat, Your opinion means NOTHING to me!
You are a very stupid and clueless girl ..yes i said CLUELESS... You know nothing about my life so if you're going to attack me on this board..please come correct.






You're telling me something I already know. YOu must think you're the only one with a brain. Fool.

Malaya your attitude sucks. I for one wish you would just stop posting on this board. You have been an escort for a whole two months and think you have the world figured out. Some of us have been around for YEARS. You, my dear, are still just crawling on your knees. This isn't the first thread where I have seen you post and act like a total bitch. You were a total bitch in the cambabes thread which derailed when I and another member were actually trying to get real information. People here are trying to help you. All you have to do is say no thanks if you don't want the help. NOT BE A TOTAL CUNT. I for one, will not offer more helpful information that I can offer after you felt the need to "correct" me in one of my post with information YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT. Ironic you feel the need to tell others they know nothing when you are in the same boat. I have been around 15 years. Your whopping 2 months in the business makes you nothing more than a clueless smartass. You need to drop the ego, the insults and the attitude. I am sick of watching you insult other people constantly. I am sure I am not the only one. >:(

malayataylor
11-25-2009, 10:13 AM
I started this thread are you forgetting? I started this thread to let people know that I was not perfect that i was doing something i never thought id do. I have been in this business 6 months...Get it right PLEASE and if you knew ANYTHING about me you'd know i researched the business for a year before I got into it. I don't care if you were in the business 100 years... my point is this....If i needed help i would ask for it. I simply told Ms. Kylea NOT to question my decision about not telling my boyfriend i was a provider and FOR YOUR INFOMATION I do not need YOU or Ms. Kylea's help. I never asked for help. I was posting my thoughts on this board to help girls in the industry. I never attack anyone unless i feel like i am being attacked and Kylea attacked me ..plain and simple. I guess you didn't read her posts..

I'm sorry you feel the way you do. It's funny how people who know nothing about ME can tell ME how to live my life or make suggestions telling ME that i NEED to break up with my boyfriend. I wish all the escorts on the board good luck. I am disappointed and lost for words.

babybambi08
11-25-2009, 12:08 PM
Who the $&@# has the right to tell Malaya what to do with her relationship? I'd never tell my man that's just stupid if you ask me,
who calls someone a bitch WHILE being a bitch?????

Kylea2
11-25-2009, 02:04 PM
^^^ Someone who knows that putting another person's life and emotions at risk is not right. What risks she decides to take with her own life is her business. However, taking his health and life into her own hands isn't right.

Dating a guy and not letting him know that you dance is bad in my opinion. It's mentally harmful... but at least then he can make the choice to stay with the girl or move on - and all he's wasted is time. That's harmful, but not as harmful as if there is potential to pass on other physical things to him. I would hope she's being safe about what she's doing, but the thing is that condoms and such are not 100% effective against STDs. They can break, or there can be holes in them. If it breaks, yeah, hopefully she would tell the SO. What if the case happens though that she doesn't know she's caught something and passes it on to the SO. If you were in his shoes wouldn't you be pissed? Even if she doesn't catch something and he just finds out... he could be pissed or he could be okay with it. Based on what's been

It really doesn't matter if it's being done professionally or if you are cheating. If you are sleeping with someone else and your SO doesn't know... that's not cool.
He has every right to either be educated about the situation or to not be involved in the situation.


Malaya, I offered you sound advice. It was in no way meant as an attack. A lot of the people on this board know a lot about me, and they know that I'm giving you advice from years of experience and what I've seen - which is a lot especially considering my work as a counselor in San Francisco. I'm sorry that you don't understand that. I don't disagree with your business, I just strongly encourage you to be honest with this man or end things with him. Obviously it's your choice, and you are the one who is going to feel the effects of whichever choice you choose to make. I'm a huge advocate of something called harm reduction. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harm_reduction).. which basically says that if you are going to do something do it as safe and responsibly as you possibly can. It goes beyond just physical though and includes emotional.

malayataylor
11-25-2009, 02:45 PM
Malaya, I offered you sound advice. It was in no way meant as an attack. A lot of the people on this board know a lot about me, and they know that I'm giving you advice from years of experience and what I've seen - which is a lot especially considering my work as a counselor in San Francisco. I'm sorry that you don't understand that. I don't disagree with your business, I just strongly encourage you to be honest with this man or end things with him. Obviously it's your choice, and you are the one who is going to feel the effects of whichever choice you choose to make. I'm a huge advocate of something called .. which basically says that if you are going to do something do it as safe and responsibly as you possibly can. It goes beyond just physical though and includes emotional.

I will say this once again. I will never put anyone's life at risk. I get regular checkups just like most escorts and brothel workers do and like i've said BEFORE i am not the provider that explores all the sexual acronyms. If i EVER contracted an STD I WILL tell my significant other. However I will never tell my boyfriend/husband I was an escort. I've seen this play out before and it never ends well.

I have said I DO NOT need your help in making decisions about my relationship. Am i being a bitch when i say this? No. Like i said, I started this thread to help girls getting into the industry or girls thinking about getting into the industry. I have ALOT of friends on this board. They have my personal number. i text and talk to them on a regular basis to give and take advice about the biz, we talk between appointments and confide in each other. For someone to call me a "bitch" ...or a "cunt" and tell me not to post on this board? ...WOW!

So kylea, I have told you I'm not telling my boyfriend. Why do you keep pushing the issue? Why do you feel the need to "pick" on me? I have read what you had to say. So why can't you move past this? It's MY decision and the scary part about it is ...I don't think YOU understand that.

Kylea2
11-25-2009, 03:01 PM
I'm not "picking" on you. I responded to BabyBambi, and responded to your post directed at me. Responding to you isn't "picking" on you at all.

BTW, I didn't call you any names, so you might want to re-direct your middle paragraph.

Also, if you prefer, we can both delete all of our threads so that this isn't on record. I have no problem doing that... but as I am just as much a part of this forum as you are, I'm certainly not going to just ignore your responses to me.

laurcon
11-25-2009, 04:22 PM
please don't stop posting malaya! you are very helpful and i love learning from what you share with us.
personally, i couldn't marry someone that i wasn't 100% honest with about everything in my life. not because i'm some super moral person, but only because that's what i want out of a marriage. a soulmate, a life partner, someone who knows and loves me completely. although i do also think i could eventually find a guy that accepted that i slept with men for money at one point in my life. so far i haven't explicitly done so, but if i did.

however, this is only me and how i feel for myself. if you don't want to tell your bf, i can totally understand why! i think that's totally fine, go with it and i wish you the best! everybody's different and that's what i love about the universe. we're all so different yet all made from the exact same energy/atoms.
so let's all just drop the judgments and let this lovely thread continue on its merry way! :grouphug:

malayataylor
11-25-2009, 05:17 PM
I'm not "picking" on you. I responded to BabyBambi, and responded to your post directed at me. Responding to you isn't "picking" on you at all.

BTW, I didn't call you any names, so you might want to re-direct your middle paragraph.

Also, if you prefer, we can both delete all of our threads so that this isn't on record. I have no problem doing that... but as I am just as much a part of this forum as you are, I'm certainly not going to just ignore your responses to me.

It all felt like attacking to me tbh. I don't even know why. All i did say was i wouldn't tell my boyfriend and i simply got attacked. I thought i was free to be open on this board ...but now i know i am not free to speak my mind on sw. Because of you, I will no longer post my personal info..thank you. You've taught me a lesson ...and don't think i don't understand where you were some from..because i do.


please don't stop posting malaya! you are very helpful and i love learning from what you share with us.
personally, i couldn't marry someone that i wasn't 100% honest with about everything in my life. not because i'm some super moral person, but only because that's what i want out of a marriage. a soulmate, a life partner, someone who knows and loves me completely. although i do also think i could eventually find a guy that accepted that i slept with men for money at one point in my life. so far i haven't explicitly done so, but if i did.

however, this is only me and how i feel for myself. if you don't want to tell your bf, i can totally understand why! i think that's totally fine, go with it and i wish you the best! everybody's different and that's what i love about the universe. we're all so different yet all made from the exact same energy/atoms.
so let's all just drop the judgments and let this lovely thread continue on its merry way! :grouphug:

Everytime i make a post on this board someone pm's me thanking me for posting because i answered a question they didn't want to publically ask or they didn't want to be called a "whore" for being an escort. Girls have joined sw because of this thread alone. I am helping girls who are clueless about the industry and I never said I knew everything about the industry. I simply wanted you all to take a walk with me...to follow me on this journey...

Laurcon, Thank you!! Thanks for realizing that EVERYONE is different. Thank you for understanding why i choose not to tell my boyfriend about my line of work. I cannot believe that someone can argue with me for making such decision..I'm still so very shocked at some of the comments that have been made..but it's ok ...Let's move on..

Here are some tips for those that care:

1.) If you are providing an outcall at a home, Make sure his ID forms match the address you are at and tell him they have to match or you cannot see him. A utility bill with their name and address helps. If a client's address does not match the address on his driver's license ask him why, If it's not because of a recent move, Do not see him.

2.)Never ride in the car with a client unless it's a regular.

3.)To protect your discretion, It is best to never work from your home. Never give a client any personal infomation .... some clients become obsessive and WILL blackmail you. Remember this is YOUR JOB, YOUR BUSINESS ...never mix business and pleasure.

3.) If you have an incall, Have pepperspray in several parts of your incall. Under the bed, In the drawers, under the couch...where you think you can get to it if something were to happen...And no i'm not trying to scare anyone but better safe than sorry ...huh?

4.) Make sure you clients put away Cell phones, pens, watches and electonics of any kind when you are together in the privacy of your incall. You never know if they have built in cameras in them...May sound ridiculous but VERY true you could buy something like this for $100-$400.

Once again, You guys i'm only trying to help. Like i said i don't know everything but I am learning. As i learn i will share with you...that's what this thread is about.

babybambi08
11-26-2009, 06:08 PM
Well my bf thinks I dance and he says I know you are doing it for your kids, I honestly think he would eventully be ok with it. But it's her choice to do what she wants!!!!!!!!
If he really cares for her and loves her he will have to look past it but there isn't any harm in not tell him if he never finds out!!!!!!!
STD s seriously everyone wears condoms and you could get an STD from your bf or if he or you cheated!! I think she has the right to live her life the way she wants YOU might not agree with it but it's NOT your life so go get one! Damn I swear some people think they are so much better than everyone, I'm more spirital than christain cause I don't believe everything in the bible but in Romans it says no one is christ like and no one should judge, mean no ones perfect but it's none of your businassss!




^^^ Someone who knows that putting another person's life and emotions at risk is not right. What risks she decides to take with her own life is her business. However, taking his health and life into her own hands isn't right.

Dating a guy and not letting him know that you dance is bad in my opinion. It's mentally harmful... but at least then he can make the choice to stay with the girl or move on - and all he's wasted is time. That's harmful, but not as harmful as if there is potential to pass on other physical things to him. I would hope she's being safe about what she's doing, but the thing is that condoms and such are not 100% effective against STDs. They can break, or there can be holes in them. If it breaks, yeah, hopefully she would tell the SO. What if the case happens though that she d

esn't know she's caught something and passes it on to the SO. If you were in his shoes wouldn't you be pissed? Even if she doesn't catch something and he just finds out... he could be pissed or he could be okay with it. Based on what's been

It really doesn't matter if it's being done professionally or if you are cheating. If you are sleeping with someone else and your SO doesn't know... that's not cool.
He has every right to either be educated about the situation or to not be involved in the situation.


Malaya, I offered you sound advice. It was in no way meant as an attack. A lot of the people on this board know a lot about me, and they know that I'm giving you advice from years of experience and what I've seen - which is a lot especially considering my work as a counselor in San Francisco. I'm sorry that you don't understand that. I don't disagree with your business, I just strongly encourage you to be honest with this man or end things with him. Obviously it's your choice, and you are the one who is going to feel the effects of whichever choice you choose to make. I'm a huge advocate of something called harm reduction. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harm_reduction).. which basically says that if you are going to do something do it as safe and responsibly as you possibly can. It goes beyond just physical though and includes emotional.

Kylea2
11-26-2009, 10:21 PM
All the points I mentioned still stand Bambi... sorry that you disagree. They are however facts. I do agree though that if he does really love her he's going to have to let her do her own thing and make her own decisions.

lilmisssunshine
11-26-2009, 11:18 PM
Just because you started this thread, Malaya, does not give you the right to tell Kylea that,"YOu must think you're the only one with a brain. Fool."

Those words sound like an attack to me. The only one I see attacking is you. I am sick of it.

Malaya, I never had a word to say about your relationship. I offered advice on a legal standpoint after babybambi stated that she was worried about the law. I then realized I went too far by offering my advice and quickly took my posts down. I realize now that you girls already have the world figured out and need no help, opinions or input from anyone for any reason. In your mind, this is solely your thread on Stripperweb. You think you own it and everyone's elses input here means nothing to you.

Babybambi I never told Malaya anything about her relationships. READ THE POSTS BEFORE YOU POST. I am sick of her insulting people. It it walks like a duck, I call it a duck. Someone who insults people seems like a bitch to me. You can call me bitch if you want. From you, that it is a badge of honor and I wear it proudly. I take no insult from those who are simply confused and didn't bother to read prior information.

I merely posted legal advice. I took it down. Then called out Malaya for insulting another member.

Y'all can have your escort thread and do and say whatever you want in it. You are running other members off. So be proud Malaya if you think members are joining SW just because of you, because you are equally offending just as many.

lilmisssunshine
11-26-2009, 11:26 PM
"Once again, You guys i'm only trying to help. Like i said i don't know everything but I am learning. As i learn i will share with you...that's what this thread is about."

Yes Malaya is only trying to help, because this thread is all about learning...::)


"FOR YOUR INFOMATION I do not need YOU or Ms. Kylea's help. I never asked for help. I was posting my thoughts on this board to help girls in the industry. "

Malaya doesn't need anyone else's help. This board is for the girls in the industry.

What am I?/:O

Clare
11-27-2009, 12:03 PM
Just wanted to chime in here and this is not a personal attack on anyone. This is just my point of view.

Condoms ARE NOT 100%. They malfunction. They slip off. They can break. Clients have removed them during services for woman (don't believe me? Go to any blacklist website and you will see horror stories)

Herpes can be transmitted via skin to skin contact EVEN WHEN NO SYMPTOMS ARE PRESENT and even when a condom is used. http://www.cdc.gov/std/herpes/STDFact-herpes.htm That means even though you're making every guy wear a condom, you can still catch herpes. In the sex industry, a very large percentage of people have herpes. People who use prostitutes have a larger percentage of infection than the general population. Chances are very good that you will catch herpes. I currently do not have herpes but I'll be honest here, I will not be surprised if I caught it. I have discussed this with my husband and we are both aware of this risk.

Herpes is nasty, it makes you have to have a C-section if you have a child in the future (if you have herpes you can transmit it to your child during the trip down the birth canal, including their eyes, yuck), it never goes away, it merely goes into remission, and you can infect anyone you have sex with for the rest of your life.

There has been one case of HIV being transmitted during open mouth kissing http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/qa/qa17.htm You can get HIV if an infected man goes down on you and you have a cut or sore http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/qa/qa19.htm you can get HIV if you go down on a man without a condom, even if he does not cum in your mouth.

We are having sex with men who PAY TO HAVE SEX WITH HOOKERS. Hello?!?! That puts US and THEM in high risk group. I assume every man I have sex with to have an STD. I don't give a fuck how nice their house is, how much they're paying me or what career they have - they're using a prostitute. Sugar coat it all you want, we are high risk.

When we have sex with someone who does not know that we are hookers, we are putting them at risk. They have a right to know the risk. I'm sorry but they do. It takes up to 3 months (some say 6) for HIV to show up in a blood test. You can transmit herpes with no symptoms.

Look at it this way. If you were not a prostitute and were dating a man and he was having sex with gay men in secret, using protection with them but not with you, and you caught something, how would you feel?

My husband and I have weighted the risks. I know that my chances of catching something are there. I do not live in fantasy land. The men I see may have seen 50 hookers in the past year. The men I see may be the type of men who get their kicks out of going to Craigslist to advertise for other men to have sex with in the "casual encounters". The men I see may have shot up drugs or shared needles. The men I see may once a year go to Thailand for bareback sex with trannies. The point is I don't know who or what they do in their time. I do use protection all the time but I would never let someone I love share my risk without knowing their own risk.

I also do not donate blood or let my kids share my toothbrushes (HIV), razors (HIV), towels (herpes) or drink after me (herpes). This may sound extreme but damn, I sleep well at night.

malayataylor
11-27-2009, 12:33 PM
Well my bf thinks I dance and he says I know you are doing it for your kids, I honestly think he would eventully be ok with it. But it's her choice to do what she wants!!!!!!!!
If he really cares for her and loves her he will have to look past it but there isn't any harm in not tell him if he never finds out!!!!!!!
STD s seriously everyone wears condoms and you could get an STD from your bf or if he or you cheated!! I think she has the right to live her life the way she wants YOU might not agree with it but it's NOT your life so go get one! Damn I swear some people think they are so much better than everyone, I'm more spirital than christain cause I don't believe everything in the bible but in Romans it says no one is christ like and no one should judge, mean no ones perfect but it's none of your businassss!

I sooo love you! Sent you a text message btw!



Just because you started this thread, Malaya, does not give you the right to tell Kylea that,"YOu must think you're the only one with a brain. Fool."

Those words sound like an attack to me. The only one I see attacking is you. I am sick of it.

Malaya, I never had a word to say about your relationship. I offered advice on a legal standpoint after babybambi stated that she was worried about the law. I then realized I went too far by offering my advice and quickly took my posts down. I realize now that you girls already have the world figured out and need no help, opinions or input from anyone for any reason. In your mind, this is solely your thread on Stripperweb. You think you own it and everyone's elses input here means nothing to you.

Babybambi I never told Malaya anything about her relationships. READ THE POSTS BEFORE YOU POST. I am sick of her insulting people. It it walks like a duck, I call it a duck. Someone who insults people seems like a bitch to me. You can call me bitch if you want. From you, that it is a badge of honor and I wear it proudly. I take no insult from those who are simply confused and didn't bother to read prior information.

I merely posted legal advice. I took it down. Then called out Malaya for insulting another member.

Y'all can have your escort thread and do and say whatever you want in it. You are running other members off. So be proud Malaya if you think members are joining SW just because of you, because you are equally offending just as many.

.... LMFAO...

Sorry I'm actually vacationing right now... I see you posted this yesterday .... I had better things to do.

Did you read the cambabes thread thoroughly? I did apologize yes that was my bad i was having a really bad day and you know what? I'm not afraid to admit when i am wrong. I am also not afraid to say "I'm sorry". I hope you're happy now.. YOu've been talking about the cambabes thread ...so there you go...I never said i was perfect Lilmisssunshine :)
kylea: If you are reading this ..I'm sorry ..I never meant to disrespect you. I understand where you were coming from. I really hope we can move past this and learn from each other in the future.

Lilmisssunshine: You got some serious issues LOL ... and guess what? I think it's HILARIOUS! I left this alone...why are you so angry? Honey, I get tons of pms from girls thanking me for starting this thread. I just wanted to tell YOU ALL that i was working as an escort...and share what I had learned and still learning. What are you arguing with me about? Don't hate ok ... and you really are a "BITCH"!

Lol at me owning this thread on sw...I never said i owned it ...Gosh you're so lame..I'm over you and all this. It's comedy to me now. You're obviously very angry for no reason.

From the pms i got yesterday, I have no regrets starting this thread. I am happy with the information that i have shared though I will no longer be posting advice on this thread.. if any of you have any questions, advice or comments ..Please feel free to pm me.


Just wanted to chime in here and this is not a personal attack on anyone. This is just my point of view.

Condoms ARE NOT 100%. They malfunction. They slip off. They can break. Clients have removed them during services for woman (don't believe me? Go to any blacklist website and you will see horror stories)

Herpes can be transmitted via skin to skin contact EVEN WHEN NO SYMPTOMS ARE PRESENT and even when a condom is used. That means even though you're making every guy wear a condom, you can still catch herpes. In the sex industry, a very large percentage of people have herpes. People who use prostitutes have a larger percentage of infection than the general population. Chances are very good that you will catch herpes. I currently do not have herpes but I'll be honest here, I will not be surprised if I caught it. I have discussed this with my husband and we are both aware of this risk.

Herpes is nasty, it makes you have to have a C-section if you have a child in the future (if you have herpes you can transmit it to your child during the trip down the birth canal, including their eyes, yuck), it never goes away, it merely goes into remission, and you can infect anyone you have sex with for the rest of your life.

There has been one case of HIV being transmitted during open mouth kissing You can get HIV if an infected man goes down on you and you have a cut or sore you can get HIV if you go down on a man without a condom, even if he does not cum in your mouth.

We are having sex with men who PAY TO HAVE SEX WITH HOOKERS. Hello?!?! That puts US and THEM in high risk group. I assume every man I have sex with to have an STD. I don't give a fuck how nice their house is, how much they're paying me or what career they have - they're using a prostitute. Sugar coat it all you want, we are high risk.

When we have sex with someone who does not know that we are hookers, we are putting them at risk. They have a right to know the risk. I'm sorry but they do. It takes up to 3 months (some say 6) for HIV to show up in a blood test. You can transmit herpes with no symptoms.

Look at it this way. If you were not a prostitute and were dating a man and he was having sex with gay men in secret, using protection with them but not with you, and you caught something, how would you feel?

My husband and I have weighted the risks. I know that my chances of catching something are there. I do not live in fantasy land. The men I see may have seen 50 hookers in the past year. The men I see may be the type of men who get their kicks out of going to Craigslist to advertise for other men to have sex with in the "casual encounters". The men I see may have shot up drugs or shared needles. The men I see may once a year go to Thailand for bareback sex with trannies. The point is I don't know who or what they do in their time. I do use protection all the time but I would never let someone I love share my risk without knowing their own risk.

I also do not donate blood or let my kids share my toothbrushes (HIV), razors (HIV), towels (herpes) or drink after me (herpes). This may sound extreme but damn, I sleep well at night.

I really do appreciate your input but I still stand by my decision and it is a personal decision. My relationship with him is not serious...he's an on and off boyfriend ...though it does NOT justify anything. if i were married then yes i would tell my husband i HAD BEEN an escort. Why had been? I wouldn't be an escort if i was married...why? because my husband would have to have more than enough to support me and my family....but then im thinking about it... I mean really How can anyone hide that they're escorting from their husband? I can imagine business phone ringing off the hook and him thinking "who's that?" for example especially if yall live together...... I'm not even going to elaborate on this anymore than i have. Thanks clare.

lilmisssunshine
11-27-2009, 06:18 PM
I am a bitch in every sense of the word and proud. I call bullshit when I see it. I too have multiple PM's from people who are laughing at you Malaya and thanking me for calling you out. If you don't want people talking about your personal info, don't post it on a public board. Duh!


You are lame, too, Malaya. Back at ya!. Or maybe to quote the great escorting legend herself, Miss Malaya Taylor, "You're telling me something I already know. YOu must think you're the only one with a brain. Fool."

malayataylor
11-27-2009, 07:06 PM
I am a bitch in every sense of the word and proud. I call bullshit when I see it. I too have multiple PM's from people who are laughing at you Malaya and thanking me for calling you out. If you don't want people talking about your personal info, don't post it on a public board. Duh!


You are lame, too, Malaya. Back at ya!. Or maybe to quote the great escorting legend herself, Miss Malaya Taylor, "You're telling me something I already know. YOu must think you're the only one with a brain. Fool."

You are one angry soul LOL!! You keep going on and on. Yes you are a bitch..I'm glad you admitted it! BRAVO! OOh wow LILMISSSUNSHINE have pms from ppl laughing at me because i posted my thoughts on stripperweb...Lemme go hang myself... because of some dumb HASBEEN on the internet...HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!!! Lilmisssunshine YOu make my day! I mean with Kylea i was getting mad because I could actually see where she was coming from but I honestly don't know what your problem is...lol!

Ok I'll be lame..LOL! That made you happy didn't it? Admit it sure it did..of course! HA!!! Idiot! ROTFL @ "Maybe to quote the great escorting legend herself, Miss Malaya taylor" because honestly i really do THINK that's how YOU feel about me! I do agree with me being SO GREAT THOUGH... a legend? Nahh I'm getting my nursing degree in june ...after that i don't think i can continue escorting long enough to one day be called a "legend" HAHAHAHAHA! Like i said ..this shit is really fucking FUNNY now.. You're making a complete fool of yourself. Keep sippin on that haterade while i stack my DOLLAR$! What a wonderful evening!

btw Malaya taylor is not my escorting name..you really did sound so fucking stupid as usual! LOL!

Elvia
11-27-2009, 07:12 PM
I think it's so sad that some of you have so little respect for your partners. Fucking disgusting.

malayataylor
11-27-2009, 07:22 PM
I think it's so sad that some of you have so little respect for your partners. Fucking disgusting.
::) Over this issue..NEXT! Not respecting ones decision is VERY FUCKING disgusting!

Elvia
11-27-2009, 07:23 PM
I don't have to respect you mistreating your man. You're not worthy of respect.

malayataylor
11-27-2009, 07:47 PM
I don't have to respect you mistreating your man. You're not worthy of respect.

And now i'm going to start crying because Elvia on sw dosen't respect me. Hmm I could careless about how you feel about my decision... I mean REeally! Maybe i'm the only person in the escorting world that decided not to tell her boyfriend::).

To all the "i hate Malaya taylor" crew: I'm starting to think you all have nothing to do. Lol...I find it fascinating that you all really care about my sex life. I'm also starting to think that some of you go to bed dreaming about me ("I dream of Malaya Taylor" LOL!). I think it's very flattering..thank you however I really choose not to talk about this issue anymore. You all can post how much you hate me, How you think i think i am the escorting legend (lol), How disgusting i am for not telling my boyfriend i'm an escort, How i'm this and how i am that..but it's not going to sway my decision at all. If you like create a "I hate Malaya Taylor" Group or a "Malaya Taylor Escort Legend" group or a "six month escort Malaya Taylor" group ..fact of the matter is..I'm still gonna be ME. Your little DISGUSTING comments are just words and I do not know you all personally (thank god) but a select few that i love dearly.

I'm done with arguing with closed minded people. I'm done explaining myself to the little sw "clicks". I'm over this issue...NEXT!::) Ahh Comedy!

Elvia
11-27-2009, 07:51 PM
however I really choose not to talk about this issue anymore

You keep saying that...and yet the bullshit just continues to spew out of you.

malayataylor
11-27-2009, 07:55 PM
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Elvia
11-27-2009, 07:57 PM
Honey, I don't give a fuck about you throwing a little fit. It's you who keeps saying "I'm done!" but doesn't have the self control to back it up.

No one invited me. I don't have to be invited because it's a public message board, you idiot. If you don't like what you're hearing, you're welcome to fuck off.

malayataylor
11-27-2009, 07:59 PM
Honey, I don't give a fuck about you throwing a little fit. It's you who keeps saying "I'm done!" but doesn't have the self control to back it up.

No one invited me. I don't have to be invited because it's a public message board, you idiot. If you don't like what you're hearing, you're welcome to fuck off.

...sure of course you want to take sides and be a closed minded bitch! why are you trying to start something? Just go fuck yourself and go to sleep. I never said anything to disrespect you so please just let me be ..ok. Yes i know it's a public forum douche.

AND yes if someone posts something directed to me like YOU did..I will reply..simple.

Elvia
11-27-2009, 11:12 PM
So sorry I can't be more supportive of your selfish desire to mistreat and mislead someone you're pretending to care about. Yeah, that would be so open minded of me, wouldn't it? It's not open minded to have no standards as to how you treat others.

If you're going to keep replying, fine. But when you throw the same fit over and over again saying " Say whatever you want, I'm not talking about this anymore!" and then repeatedly prove that you can't, you reveal yourself for what you are- a little girl with no impulse control.

Here's hoping your man dumps your ass and finds someone worthy.

malayataylor
11-27-2009, 11:36 PM
So sorry I can't be more supportive of your selfish desire to mistreat and mislead someone you're pretending to care about. Yeah, that would be so open minded of me, wouldn't it? It's not open minded to have no standards as to how you treat others.

If you're going to keep replying, fine. But when you throw the same fit over and over again saying " Say whatever you want, I'm not talking about this anymore!" and then repeatedly prove that you can't, you reveal yourself for what you are- a little girl with no impulse control.

Here's hoping your man dumps your ass and finds someone worthy.

::) ok

skoolgirl
11-28-2009, 07:27 AM
My husband and I have weighted the risks. I know that my chances of catching something are there. I do not live in fantasy land. The men I see may have seen 50 hookers in the past year. The men I see may be the type of men who get their kicks out of going to Craigslist to advertise for other men to have sex with in the "casual encounters". The men I see may have shot up drugs or shared needles. The men I see may once a year go to Thailand for bareback sex with trannies. The point is I don't know who or what they do in their time. I do use protection all the time but I would never let someone I love share my risk without knowing their own risk.


Awesome post, Clare. This should be a must-read for anyone considering the escorting business. I think some ladies see the romanticized version of escorting from TV and movies. It's lucrative, but you're definitely taking a risk with your health.

I personally think it's sexually irresponsible for a woman who's in a committed relationship to escort without their partner knowing. It's not as simple as "what he doesn't know won't hurt him" or "it's not really cheating if I'm accepting money." It's wrong to mislead someone into thinking you're monogamous when you're not.

Elusive21
11-28-2009, 10:47 AM
Who the $&@# has the right to tell Malaya what to do with her relationship? I'd never tell my man that's just stupid if you ask me,
who calls someone a bitch WHILE being a bitch?????

you're just as ghetto as malaya taylor is (just sayin what everybody else is thinking)

malayataylor
11-28-2009, 10:58 AM
you're just as ghetto as malaya taylor is (just sayin what everybody else is thinking)

Lol @ me being ghetto(You clearly don't know me)!I'm done trading insults ... too much HATE on this board...I thought stripperweb was a "support" forum! Thanks for all the support guys!::)

Elvia
11-28-2009, 01:15 PM
This is begining to sound like the Maury show. "whateva! You don't know me! I do what I want!"

No one's going to support your mistreatment and endangerment of others. Sorry.

Elvia
11-28-2009, 01:17 PM
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malayataylor
11-28-2009, 02:48 PM
I just wanted to let you all know that i am SO happy! My life has changed tremendously since becoming an Independent provider. I've been a camgirl, I've danced (HATED IT) and this is definetely a fulfilling career..though it has its cons. All these disgusting comments only make me want to be an even better person. I didn't know people could be soo horrible and judgemental in 09. Some of you are just so miserable in your personal lives and want to take it out on me and that's just sad.

Elvia
11-28-2009, 02:52 PM
All these disgusting comments only make me want to be an even better person.

Well thank God for that. Better late than never. Hopefully you will get there before your man gets herpes.


I didn't know people could be soo horrible in 09.

I've been thinking the same thing as I've read your posts.

malayataylor
11-28-2009, 03:01 PM
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