View Full Version : Do SC men = all men?
stressed
10-02-2009, 10:50 AM
There are also guys who are smart and have figured out that they will have a lot more fun if they are respectful, unlike the douchebag types.
+1
Give me 10 men that have never been to a stripclub and i can corrupt at least 7. You go in with the right attitude and it is a chitload of fun. Sad thing is that 3 or 4 of those guys would probably still turn it into something that it isnt.
I never cared about what the other customers were doing, but since entering this forum, it has started bugging me a little.
Shy_Guy
10-02-2009, 11:58 AM
So, if you're referring to Dallas, Houston, Las Vegas, or any other major city were clubs are clean, safe and "respectable" and the women are stunning, I think the guys there will be a good cross-representation of men. If you're referring to a place where the only SC around are sleazy, dangerous and disgusting, and the women look pitiful, then the guys there will not be a good cross-representation of men.
That would be an interesting distinction. How does the prevailing community attitudes effect the make up of SC attenders. It seems certain it would make a big difference. But you never know.
Right, and how would they know he goes to strip clubs if they didn't see him in the club?
For the purpose of this discussion, that is irrelevant. They were just making a statement of opinion, an indication that in their minds the SC regular is somehow a different quality of person. But it could be as simple as the guy telling her?
I still come back to my basic point. In London at least >90% of the male population seem to have no interest in visiting strip clubs.
The SIZE of the group is not relevant to this discussion. Only the make-up of that group.
laurcon
10-02-2009, 01:22 PM
It depends on many factors. I lived in NYC and Long Island until I was 21 and never went to a SC there. The only ones I knew about then (mid 1990s) were on 42nd street and this was a very sleazy and dangerous part of the city, with drug dealers, prostitutes, pimps, street thugs, con artists, bumbs, etc.
When I moved to Dallas, Texas, I discovered "Gentleman Clubs" that were very nice, clean, safe, and "respectable"... Business people and other "respectable" people visit, and men even take their GFs or wifes with them, sometimes. Most importantly, the dancers were amazingly beautiful, intelligent and drug-free.
So, if you're referring to Dallas, Houston, Las Vegas, or any other major city were clubs are clean, safe and "respectable" and the women are stunning, I think the guys there will be a good cross-representation of men. If you're referring to a place where the only SC around are sleazy, dangerous and disgusting, and the women look pitiful, then the guys there will not be a good cross-representation of men.
um wtf. i feel like you're trying to diss new york or something. like first of all, you were under 21, of course you didn't know about the nice gentlemen's clubs. like you only heard about sleezy clubs on 42nd street but hadn't actually been anywhere. so you really have no idea. and then you say in texas things were different? scores nyc was open and making a killing with incredibly gorgeous women in the 90's. please don't put down a whole city based on what you heard when you weren't even old enough to get into a club.
second, at the nice gentlemen's club you def don't get a good cross-section of men, thank god. like at my club 95% of the men are in suits. i don't think that's representational of society.
KiwiStrawberry Splenda
10-02-2009, 03:14 PM
Maybe us men in Texas are hornier... Every guy I know here, except for one, goes to the club... Some may go once a year, some may go every week, but they've all gone and enjoyed it.
What man doesn't want to see a beautiful young woman dancing naked or topless on their lap?
The business of strip clubs in Texas is a lot different than in London. In fact, the big Texas cities have dozens of clubs that are easy to access, and reasonably priced, with two-way contact. In London, far fewer clubs exist, they are quite expensive, and tend to be no-contact.
Plus, London has pub culture.
chris91
10-02-2009, 07:36 PM
So, if you're referring to Dallas, Houston, Las Vegas, or any other major city were clubs are clean, safe and "respectable" and the women are stunning, I think the guys there will be a good cross-representation of men. If you're referring to a place where the only SC around are sleazy, dangerous and disgusting, and the women look pitiful, then the guys there will not be a good cross-representation of men.
I don't understand the logic here. Why would clean clubs be a better cross-representation of men than sleazy clubs? Why does it matter if the dancers are stunning or pitiful?
Also, from what I know of houston clubs, they are not clean, safe or respectable in spite of the fact that they are well decorated and expensive.
jack0177057
10-02-2009, 07:37 PM
um wtf. i feel like you're trying to diss new york or something. like first of all, you were under 21, of course you didn't know about the nice gentlemen's clubs. like you only heard about sleezy clubs on 42nd street but hadn't actually been anywhere. so you really have no idea. and then you say in texas things were different? scores nyc was open and making a killing with incredibly gorgeous women in the 90's. please don't put down a whole city based on what you heard when you weren't even old enough to get into a club.
I said "The only ones I knew about"... I'm sure there were other clubs that I did not know about. I did not mean to "diss" NYC. To the contrary, I like NYC.
jack0177057
10-02-2009, 07:51 PM
I don't understand the logic here. Why would clean clubs be a better cross-representation of men than sleazy clubs? Why does it matter if the dancers are stunning or pitiful?
Anybody can go into a clean and safe club and feel comfortable, but few people feel safe and comfortable in an unclean and unsafe club. Therefore, the clean and safe clubs have a better cross-representation because no one is excluded or deterred by fears of violence.
Also, from what I know of houston clubs, they are not clean, safe or respectable in spite of the fact that they are well decorated and expensive.
I suppose its all relative... I go to D.B. Cooper's Mansion (which recently closed and reopened under another name), The Gentleman's Club, Treasures and The Penthouse Club (which just recently reopened after being closed for a while)... I'm not saying that these clubs are elite country clubs, nice enough to host wedding ceremonies, but they are "nice and clean" compared to other SCs.
Elvia
10-02-2009, 07:52 PM
D.B.Coopers mansion is an awesome name for a business.
jack0177057
10-02-2009, 08:11 PM
^^^ It's a great club.
http://www.dbcoopersmansion.com/Homepage.html
yoda57us
10-03-2009, 03:25 PM
For the purpose of this discussion, that is irrelevant. They were just making a statement of opinion, an indication that in their minds the SC regular is somehow a different quality of person. But it could be as simple as the guy telling her?
Dude, you put a statement out there and I posted my opinion. This is a chat board. Nothing is irrelevant if it deals with the topic. You not agreeing with it or not liking the fact that I am posting an opposing POV to your theory does not make it "irrelevant".
WiseGuy_TX
10-03-2009, 03:50 PM
...shy_guy, rephrasing questions multiple times and discounting replies that dont neatly fit your expectations creates never ending banter. I think you're OK but just saying....
Shy_Guy
10-03-2009, 08:50 PM
^It had nothing to do with "agreeing." It is irrelevant to the question. A tangent. I certainly have no problem with the statement. I was just pointing out it was not on-topic.
*****Warning, excessive explanation*****
Here's why. The question was whether the dancers felt the SC crowd is statistically representative of the general population. I used the "wouldn't date a SC regular" as an example of someone implicitly declaring that the SC regular is somehow qualitatively different than the general male population. The comment of how the dancer would know if a guy is a regular if he wasn't also her customer is not relevant to the question. Whether or not that dancer could ever know if a guy is a regular without being her specific customer in no way changes the attitude that if she could know, she would not date such a person.
So it has nothing to do with agreeing, or being opposite. It is purely a logical distinction. It may be completely true, but still not relevant.
yoda57us
10-03-2009, 09:27 PM
Try reading your own words again...
I bring it up because that kind of comment implies that there is a discernible difference between the SC regular and the "normal" guy. I'm curious what that difference is.
At this point in the thread you drew a conclusion. It is that conclusion that I responded to...
I would add that, in 25 years of clubbing I've never had a dancer tell me she won't date a guy that goes to strip clubs but I have had many tell me that they won't date a customer...
Not sure if that's relevant or not...I'm just sayin'....
Shy_Guy
10-03-2009, 09:42 PM
Try reading your own words again...
At this point in the thread you drew a conclusion. It is that conclusion that I responded to...
I would add that, in 25 years of clubbing I've never had a dancer tell me she won't date a guy that goes to strip clubs but I have had many tell me that they won't date a customer...
Not sure if that's relevant or not...I'm just sayin'....
I drew the conclusion that other people have stated opinions. I did not say I had drawn any conclusions. I was using that to spur discussion. Read my statement carefully. I said that the statement (again, not me) I referred to implies one conclusion. I was asking if others agreed or disagreed with that conclusion (and asked for clarification from those who shared the statement's implied conclusion). I still have not formed an opinion on the matter. The charge I am disregarding conclusions I disagree with is amusing.
I purposefully stayed away from the "dating your customer." My "dating a regular" was too close for comfort as it was.
Jack, which clubs do you frequent in Dallas?
yoda57us
10-03-2009, 10:28 PM
I said that the statement (again, not me) I referred to implies one conclusion.
Again, you drew the implication...
Dude, you are trying way too hard here. It's a message board that's all. If you wanna nit-pick I'll go along for the ride.
Shy_Guy
10-03-2009, 10:40 PM
Again, you drew the implication...
If you're accusing me of judging the intent of the statement my quote refers to, guilty as charged. That was the launching point of the whole question.
Really? It sounds like you're talking in circles. Just sayin....
Shy_Guy
10-03-2009, 10:53 PM
*sigh* You're probably right.
So, are SC regulars different in some way than non-SC regulars?
WiseGuy_TX
10-03-2009, 10:56 PM
*sigh* You're probably right.
So, are SC regulars different in some way than non-SC regulars?
...welcome back to the dysfunctional SW family.:party:
Earl_the_Pearl
10-03-2009, 11:03 PM
Here's why. The question was whether the dancers felt the SC crowd is statistically representative of the general population. I used the "wouldn't date a SC regular" as an example of someone implicitly declaring that the SC regular is somehow qualitatively different than the general male population.
Excellent a PL is a PL is a PL and no dancer wants a PL as her man as he is not really a man. A man does not have to pay for it; a man gets it; fills it full of cum and leaves and never looks back.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v17/earlcamembert/SingleMoms.jpg
Elvia
10-03-2009, 11:07 PM
^^^ vomit.
Of course, if a real man doesn't have to pay for it, we all know what that makes you. I suppose negative attention is the only kind you can get from a woman without having to pay for it.
Is it possible to report something just for being too fucking disgusting?
A real stripper gets it, takes all it's money, and never looks back. LOL.
Shy_Guy
10-03-2009, 11:18 PM
^ If you never look back, how do you get regulars?
chris91
10-04-2009, 01:06 AM
^ If you never look back, how do you get regulars?
Not every dancer wants regulars. Personally, I think they're overrated.
I had much more patience when I was new, and could handle the psychological stress and maintenance that comes with regulars. But, forget about being in a real relationship with a guy you care about, in my experience they always have issues with SC customers calling my phone.
Nowadays, my patience has worn thin, and I'd rather not expend the effort to maintain regulars. It's too much of a mind fuck and it turns me into a bitch. I don't like to feel like a customer has roped me in or is so much control over my money, like I better be flirt and be nice to "John" so that I can get my rent paid next week. I prefer the out of town traveling business men who don't even care what your name is, they just want to party and blow a ton of money then leave. I have a few regs that have (for some unknown reason) stuck with me through my bitchiness, and they still come around every once in a while, but they know not to blow up my phone or get possessive.
Unfortunately, to truly make money in Dallas, you have to build up your customer base, etc etc. which is why I have been traveling and working. It gives me the excuse to remain detached.
Golden_Rule
10-04-2009, 01:37 AM
Guys are guys wherever they are.
Truly?
Are women, women, wherever they are?
Golden_Rule
10-04-2009, 01:43 AM
OK ladies, time to play amateur anthropologist:
Do the types of guys who frequent the SC make a representative cross-section of the general male population, or are there some definite differences in the type of guy that frequents the SC, in their attitudes, behaviors, beliefs?
Thoughts?
By the very nature of strip-clubs there is a segment of our society that would not be represented within them. If you need me to go into what type that would be than you won't understand it when I state that: The fact of that is so obvious as to make the whole question invalid on its face.
Secondly, unless you believe that the majority of men frequent strip-clubs, and I put it to you that there is no reason to presume that is the case, to ask about strip-clubs in terms of the "general male population" is a pretty silly premise.
Golden_Rule
10-04-2009, 01:50 AM
Are these guys who frequent the SC on a regular basis, or just any man in an SC? I don't think its wholly representative, as I know many many men who will not even go to an SC due to religious beliefs, or because they don't have the money/don't want to spend the money.
Or they, for any number of reasons, can't or won't except the notion that sex, or sexual objectification, can be commodity.
That doesn't mean they won't sexually objectify. It just means you won't find them purchasing it in any form they will openly acknowledge, and in a strip-club it is so in your face that you have no choice but to acknowledge it once you enter.
You won't find this type of men in strip-clubs, bordellos, or any place else were the sexuality, or the sexual objectification, of women is for sale.
This is not a majority of men in this country, but its not a small slice either. There are many women who would never set foot in a male review under the same reasoning. Either of these type though will readily view a movie specifically because they find a particular actress, or actor, sexy.
Its precisely the kind of social ambiguity I find fascinating stuff.
Phil-W
10-04-2009, 02:05 AM
...The question was whether the dancers felt the SC crowd is statistically representative of the general population. I used the "wouldn't date a SC regular" as an example of someone implicitly declaring that the SC regular is somehow qualitatively different than the general male population. The comment of how the dancer would know if a guy is a regular if he wasn't also her customer is not relevant to the question. Whether or not that dancer could ever know if a guy is a regular without being her specific customer in no way changes the attitude that if she could know, she would not date such a person.
It's a basic human need to feel that people like us for who we are. Similarly, no one likes to feel someone else is using them for their own purposes - for example making money out of them.
These two objectives collide big time in a strip club - because most customers know (in their heart of hearts) that ultimately it comes down to money and the dancer earning a living. So most customers develop a strategy for dealing with it.
IMHO there are three basic methods:
(a) Persuade themselves that they are different from other customers and that a specific dancer has developed a genuine liking for them while treating all other people she dances for as customers. They then attempt to validate that feeling by trying to learn the dancer's name, get her phone number, etc - anything that will show that they are interacting with the 'real person' and not the 'dancer'.
(b) Reach an understanding with the dancer that it is all about money - but they can both have a fun ITC relationship. The dancer knows she'll be treated courteously and have a reasonable expectation of regular earnings - the customer that he'll get better treatment (maybe the odd free dance thrown in, etc). Something for both sides in that form of relationship....
(c) Continually try to push the dancer's boundaries. The mindset here is "that bitch is after my money - I'll grope her as much as possible to get my own back". This leads to the 'customer from hell' scenario, because the customer in question knows he's only a source of income, and tries to get his own back by using the dancer in his own way.
I think all of these three attitudes are self reinforcing:
- If the dancer senses there is potential repeat business from a customer after an OTC relationship, she'll play up that aspect of the interaction. So the customer will pursue the lure of a phone number, etc - which will validate (in his own mind at least) that he's on the right track.
- The 'business like approach' works well if both sides are pragmatic. They both have a more enjoyable hour or two. The dancer has a pleasant customer, less stress, etc; the customer gets better treatment from the dancer. And after a number of visits that's going to be self-reinforcing - there's something in it for both sides.
- The "I'll get my own back" approach is also self reinforcing - because the customer will radiate 'nasty customer' vibes. The more clued up dancers will extract the maximum money from him in the shortest time before the grope-fest gets too bad. So every time this customer goes into a SC, he'll leave with the thought of "money grabbing dancers".
As to dancers, they have their own coping strategies as well. One of the most basic is to put the men she knows into two categories:
(a) Friends - who she interacts with outside the SC
(b) Customers - who she dances for inside the SC
There is then a mental shift of gears as she turns up for work - she gets ready to dance for - show off her body to - strange men, whom she keeps firmly in the 'customer' pigeon hole. (Or indeed in the three sub-categories of customer I have set out above)
When he leaves work, the dancer goes back to her male friends, who - other than perhaps a bf or husband - she would never think of dancing for.
It's by keeping the two classes of men separate in her mind, the dancer can behave in one way at work and in another back in the real world.
So, once you go into a SC and end up in the 'customer' category in a dancers mind, you are unlikely to move the relationship outside of it and end up in the friend category.
So, going back to the "Do SC men = all men?" question, the answer is no - because both dancers and customers will behave differently inside a strip club. And moreover, the mental mindsets they develop will minimize the chance of an OTC interaction/relationship developing.
Phil.
Elvia
10-04-2009, 02:14 AM
^^^excellent post.
hockeybobby
10-04-2009, 05:22 AM
I had much more patience when I was new, and could handle the psychological stress and maintenance that comes with regulars. But, forget about being in a real relationship with a guy you care about, in my experience they always have issues with SC customers calling my phone.
Nowadays, my patience has worn thin, and I'd rather not expend the effort to maintain regulars. It's too much of a mind fuck and it turns me into a bitch. I don't like to feel like a customer has roped me in or is so much control over my money, like I better be flirt and be nice to "John" so that I can get my rent paid next week. I prefer the out of town traveling business men who don't even care what your name is, they just want to party and blow a ton of money then leave. I have a few regs that have (for some unknown reason) stuck with me through my bitchiness, and they still come around every once in a while, but they know not to blow up my phone or get possessive.
Unfortunately, to truly make money in Dallas, you have to build up your customer base, etc etc. which is why I have been traveling and working. It gives me the excuse to remain detached.
It might be worth it to try out having a seperate email account just to give out to customers (if you don't have one already), rather than give out your cell number. Easier to compartmentalize it all that way, it's easy to get a new email account, and you can check it or not check it as you please.
SteveSmith
10-04-2009, 08:47 AM
I think that ON AVERAGE, SC customers AND dancers have more emotional problems, more likely to have addictive personalities, are more neurotic, have fucked up childhoods, etc., than the general population. I'm not saying anyone on this forum is that way, I'm just saying: on average for all SC customers and dancers.
Maybe that's why SC customers and dancers get along in many cases. Birds of a feather flock together.
On the subject of asking a dancer her real name:
Looking back, I've never asked a dancer her real name, not once. I figure it's none of my business and she may give me a phony name so I don't bother. If the dancers have danced for me for awhile, about half will volunteer their "real names." Sometimes, the dancer may tell me her "real name" after a few visits. I'm not sure if it's real or not but I don't concern myself with it.
yoda57us
10-04-2009, 09:01 AM
If you're accusing me of judging the intent of the statement my quote refers to, guilty as charged. That was the launching point of the whole question.
That is, in fact, exactly what I am accusing you of...I just waited until you made it blatantly obvious to call you on it. I'm old, and patient...
Really? It sounds like you're talking in circles. Just sayin....
Bingo, the pretty girls always understand....
yoda57us
10-04-2009, 09:11 AM
Excellent a PL is a PL is a PL and no dancer wants a PL as her man as he is not really a man. A man does not have to pay for it; a man gets it; fills it full of cum and leaves and never looks back.
Um yeah, whatever...
Paying for strippers is no different than paying for escorts. The vast number of guys who do it are married and looking for a little fun without rocking the boat at home. The assumption that a guy who goes to a strip club does it only because it's the only way he can get a piece of ass is short-sighted. It doesn't really describe the typical strip club customer.
Your obsession with PL'dom is entertaining Earl but it's not reality much of the time.
Shy_Guy
10-04-2009, 10:11 AM
That is, in fact, exactly what I am accusing you of...I just waited until you made it blatantly obvious to call you on it. I'm old, and patient....
I just don't get why that's important. I would have admitted to that accusation readily.
Phil-W
10-04-2009, 03:14 PM
I think that ON AVERAGE, SC customers AND dancers have more emotional problems, more likely to have addictive personalities, are more neurotic, have fucked up childhoods, etc., than the general population. I'm not saying anyone on this forum is that way, I'm just saying: on average for all SC customers and dancers.
Why on earth would you say that?
Sure, there are dancers and customers with emotional problems - but you can find people with emotional problems in all walks of life.
A dominatrix I know slightly once told me much of her clientele is men who hold considerable personal power in their professional lives (senior bankers, business executives, etc), and who like a bit of humiliation in their personal lives.
I don't generalize that to say that senior executives of fortune 500 companies "have addictive personalities, are more neurotic, have fucked up childhoods, etc."
The specific characteristic of a strip venue is nudity - and women who are prepared to provide it, together with men who are prepared to pay to experience it.
The women who provide it are in the main (from my experience) quite normal outside of work. Similarly, the sub-class of men who go to watch (allowing for cognitive dissonance to rationalize why they are spending money in a SC) equally fit social norms outside of the SC environment.
It is that SC environment that is unusual - allowing both dancers and customers to behave temporarily outside of societal norms.
The dancers would not (in 99% of cases) contemplate stripping for strangers outside of the safe haven of a strip club. Nor would the great majority of men (outside of that environment) feel free to stare so blatantly at a woman's breasts and genitalia.
Put us into any alternative environment - with different norms of behavior - and we will behave differently from our usual behavior. But we will still behave normally when we are back in that real world.
Phil.
yoda57us
10-04-2009, 03:40 PM
I just don't get why that's important. I would have admitted to that accusation readily.
LMAO! Readily? You tip-toed around it for three posts!
It's important because, quite frankly, I find my experiences with dancers to be quite a bit different than what you are saying here. As I said in another post I've never heard a dancer say that she wouldn't date a guy who goes to strip clubs, only that she would not date a customer. I'm an old fart and when I say never we are talking about 25 years of sitting in strip clubs talking to dancers...
I seriously doubt that when a dancer meets a guy in civilian life and they are attracted to each other and may consider dating that the lady is going to ask the guy if he goes to strip clubs and then send him on his way if he says that he does. Honestly I think the last topic that would ever come up in the civvie realm would be strip clubs. I just can't wrap my brain around the logic that a woman who happens to be a dancer even thinks about this unless she is approached by a guy when she is actually at work.
I would seriously live to hear from some girls who ask guys in civvie life if they go to strip clubs before they decide if the guy is dating material or not.
Guy: "hey Susie, would you like to go to the movies with me on Saturday night?"
Susie Cream Cheese: "Sure, but I have to ask first, do you ever go to strip clubs?"
Guy: "No, never. I find them disgusting and degrading to women, even though I respect any woman's right to work in one"
Susie Cream Cheese: "Cool, but can we go to the matinee? I have to work at my waitressing job on Saturday night. Have you seen Showgirls yet?"
callah44
10-04-2009, 08:27 PM
It depends on where the SC is. In Vegas, for example, the majority of men in the clubs I've worked at are not SC types, they are there for bachelor parties, vacation, conventions, etc.
In smaller "neighborhood" clubs, there is a variety, but typically you have a lot of SC frequenters at these.
I don't think one is linked to another. Often, SC types are preferable due in part to knowing and respecting club etiquette and the dancers. I can honestly say that my least favorite group is bachelor parties.
I will say that I often feel like we see men at their absolute worst in strip clubs. For some, that isn't too bad, and for others it's pretty undesirable.
callah44
10-04-2009, 08:31 PM
k, obviously I didnt read the last few posts (sorry, Im a dork)...
No, I would never ask a guy if he goes to strip clubs as a sort of qualifying prerequisite for dating. However, I have told a guy what I do only to later realize that he became preoccupied with how hot it was, and eventually had to cut things off.
And no, please don't ask us while we are at work to go out no matter how much chemistry we have or "seem to have".
Elvia
10-04-2009, 09:31 PM
I think that ON AVERAGE, SC customers AND dancers have more emotional problems, more likely to have addictive personalities, are more neurotic, have fucked up childhoods, etc., than the general population. I'm not saying anyone on this forum is that way, I'm just saying: on average for all SC customers and dancers.
I've always wondered how people feel comfortable coming to this conclusion. Unless you've worked in an SC, how does one get to know enough dancers and regulars on a personal level to feel that they know so intimately what the "average" is like? I doubt people are talking so freely about issues like addictions and child abuse with other patrons.
I've always wondered how people feel comfortable coming to this conclusion. Unless you've worked in an SC, how does one get to know enough dancers and regulars on a personal level to feel that they know so intimately what the "average" is like? I doubt people are talking so freely about issues like addictions and child abuse to freely with other patrons.
Customers (PL's) who brag about knowing the ins and outs of strip club and go making broad generalizations like this strictly because they frequent them and they are branded regulars need to get off their high horse.
Ok, you're the smartest guy in the strip club, you've got it all figured out, that's like being the smartest kid with Down Syndrome.
callah44
10-05-2009, 12:45 AM
Customers (PL's) who brag about knowing the ins and outs of strip club and go making broad generalizations like this strictly because they frequent them and they are branded regulars need to get off their high horse.
Ok, you're the smartest guy in the strip club, you've got it all figured out, that's like being the smartest kid with Down Syndrome.
LMAO! Well put. ;D
JayATee
10-05-2009, 08:10 AM
Truly?
Are women, women, wherever they are?
Yes truly. Put a pretty girl with a short skirt on in a bar and guys will fall all over themselves for her. Have a pretty girl walk down the street in a pair of shorts and watch her stop traffic. I've seen it happen a hundred times. I've had it happen to me a hundred times. Men readily admit to being dogs. I've never heard a woman admit such a thing.
I think that ON AVERAGE, SC customers AND dancers have more emotional problems, more likely to have addictive personalities, are more neurotic, have fucked up childhoods, etc., than the general population. I'm not saying anyone on this forum is that way, I'm just saying: on average for all SC customers and dancers.
I find it exceptionally hard to believe that you feel you know enough about dancers and SC's to make a statement like this.
Shy_Guy
10-05-2009, 10:22 AM
No, I would never ask a guy if he goes to strip clubs as a sort of qualifying prerequisite for dating. However, I have told a guy what I do only to later realize that he became preoccupied with how hot it was, and eventually had to cut things off.
The question isn't about dating. That was a very poorly chosen example on my part.
The question could be reworded something like this:
If you (asked to the dancers) were to be put into a regular bar and and then your strip club, would you be able to tell the difference based upon the guys you meet?
JayATee
10-05-2009, 10:24 AM
The question isn't about dating. That was a very poorly chosen example on my part.
The question could be reworded something like this:
If you (asked to the dancers) were to be put into a regular bar and and then your strip club, would you be able to tell the difference based upon the guys you meet?
Tell what difference? I still don't understand what you're asking or what the point of this entire thread is.
vmurphy252
10-05-2009, 10:25 AM
I think it's "Is the quality of guy you meet in a strip club higher/lower/equal to the quality of guy you meet in a regular bar?".
JayATee
10-05-2009, 10:27 AM
^Ok... so are guys that go to SC's lesser in some way than guys who go to regular bars? Why would guys in reg bars or SC's be any different from one another? This is silly.
Shy_Guy
10-05-2009, 10:30 AM
Tell what difference? I still don't understand what you're asking or what the point of this entire thread is.
Hmmm, It just could be that since you don't think there are any differences, it seems weird that someone is asking if there are any. Maybe there aren't. Maybe there are.
To put it in words responding to your other posts, if I remember correctly, you've said something like you wouldn't normally associate with 99.5% of your customers (please correct me if that's incorrect).
So, if you find that in general, you wouldn't associate with 99.5% of guys anywhere, then you see no differences.
If, on the other hand, that percentage is different IRL/OTC, then there are some differences.
vmurphy252
10-05-2009, 10:31 AM
^You are not taking into account that SHE'S different at work than when she's at a bar for fun...