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KiwiStrawberry Splenda
10-06-2009, 11:18 PM
I've worked in a city where boob touching was standard, and not considered an extra. It was really draining. Many men don't understand how sensitive our breasts are, and will just maul and squeeze them too hard, for too long. Its not worth it to me now, but then I ran my numbers on nights where I did not allow any boob touching, and couldn't manage to break $200-300. I could double that with some boob touching. It didn't gross me out right then and there, but its not something I will allow anymore.

taylormadison
10-07-2009, 12:59 AM
I'm at the point where I don't want customers to touch me at all during a lap dance. I am there to entertain not be touched. When I let them touch even my leg I don't get tipped but that is just my experience and it's not the standard at my club.

pinkkitten
10-07-2009, 05:05 AM
where i work boob touching is not considered an extra. i dont really like being touched but i do allow it and in order to get more dances act as though i like it. it doesnt gross me out, but it does irritate me at times when they want to touch the nipples as opposed to the whole boob. if it did gross me out or make me feel dirty i would not allow it, and i wouldn't do anything i was morally opposed to or felt was degrading, nasty or unsafe. it does gross me out when they try to like or suck any body part though, it just feels nasty. or when they do that fish mouth thing when they try to reach for the nipple with their mouth.

Laurisa
10-07-2009, 06:28 AM
woah woah woah.. big concern just crossed my mind.

I'm going to be dancing in the metro detroit area and I now known it's ridden with extras girls. I'm going to go down there and work as a clean dancer, and still try to come out doing okay. My concern is that I'm going to be breastfeeding when I start dancing, I was just going to bring a pump during a long shift. I'm not really familiar with breastfeeding, since I haven't done it yet, but if someone grabs at you unexpectedly and squeezes too hard could you have some milk coming out?

Help!

J.D.
10-07-2009, 09:00 AM
That could very possibly happen. But, in club lighting, unlikely that anyone would notice.

JayATee
10-07-2009, 09:16 AM
^ Some guys are really into that too.

J.D.
10-07-2009, 09:28 AM
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JayATee
10-07-2009, 09:30 AM
Oh no.... should I ask? Damn you, now you've peaked my curiosity lol.

J.D.
10-07-2009, 09:41 AM
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JayATee
10-07-2009, 09:43 AM
^ I personally don't get it, but I know there is a HUGE fetish market for it.

Laurisa
10-07-2009, 12:05 PM
Why'd you delete your posts J.D.?

lol, I'm curious!

but if it did happen I'd be embarrassed :(

Evan86
10-07-2009, 12:30 PM
i know, doll. but i think it's safe to assume that the poll results will be skewed a bit because this site does not seem, to me, to be an accurate sample group of most dancers. or maybe i've just worked in clubs with a lot of walking trainwrecks.


ITA. I have worked with many girls who are far less articulate and together than the ladies on here.

Evan86
10-07-2009, 12:37 PM
Not to me. I find that most boob touching people are very respectful (keep in mind it's not an extra here)
Sometimes you get that person who wants to squeeze like they're sqeezing a lemon for lemonaid, or the jerk that wants to pull on your nipples, but for the most part no. To me it feels no different than giving someone a dance where they are holding on to your waist. In this case my waist is just really high up.

Yeh, it doesn't bother me either for them to touch them (not pinch or squeeze them hard though) or hold onto my waist. Just don't put your nasty mouth on me!!! I hate the guys that want to suck my nipples like they are babies.

And, speaking of N.A.S.T.Y., a lot of girls at my club will take the bill out of a dude's mouth with their mouths. GRODY!!!! I always cringe to see that.

Evan86
10-07-2009, 12:40 PM
woah woah woah.. big concern just crossed my mind.

I'm going to be dancing in the metro detroit area and I now known it's ridden with extras girls. I'm going to go down there and work as a clean dancer, and still try to come out doing okay. My concern is that I'm going to be breastfeeding when I start dancing, I was just going to bring a pump during a long shift. I'm not really familiar with breastfeeding, since I haven't done it yet, but if someone grabs at you unexpectedly and squeezes too hard could you have some milk coming out?

Help!

It sure will. Not only that, but your breasts may leak at odd times too.

mediocrity
10-07-2009, 01:36 PM
where i work boob touching is not considered an extra. i dont really like being touched but i do allow it and in order to get more dances act as though i like it. it doesnt gross me out, but it does irritate me at times when they want to touch the nipples as opposed to the whole boob. if it did gross me out or make me feel dirty i would not allow it, and i wouldn't do anything i was morally opposed to or felt was degrading, nasty or unsafe. it does gross me out when they try to like or suck any body part though, it just feels nasty. or when they do that fish mouth thing when they try to reach for the nipple with their mouth.

Yeah I was more asking about the licking/sucking thing. And almost every guy who has touched my boobs when I wasn't being vigilant enough has gone straight for my nipples. And as I have said before, now my boyfriend suffers for it because I can't stand having them touched now.

laurcon
10-07-2009, 01:50 PM
^ sorry to hear that mediocrity :( i have a friend from work who said the same thing about her boobs, can't have them touched by anyone at all anymore.
i don't mind people touching my A cups but i think if i had them done i'd be a lot more protective! also at my club if they're touching i'm getting $3-500 from it so that helps me not mind as much. that's just me personally, i know a lot of girls don't care how much its for, and i def respect that.

mediocrity
10-07-2009, 01:58 PM
^ sorry to hear that mediocrity :( i have a friend from work who said the same thing about her boobs, can't have them touched by anyone at all anymore.
i don't mind people touching my A cups but i think if i had them done i'd be a lot more protective! also at my club if they're touching i'm getting $3-500 from it so that helps me not mind as much. that's just me personally, i know a lot of girls don't care how much its for, and i def respect that.

I don't mind if he touches the whole boob. Just no nipple action. Sometimes I will grit my teeth for a few seconds and let him do it is he REALLY wants to, but it makes me feel really icky.

laurcon
10-07-2009, 02:03 PM
oh okay, i hate nipple action too! i have my whole life, it just feels creepy! but i do play with guys' nipples, apparently they like it? who knows, they like everything.
( real guys i've dated, not ITC!)

taylormadison
10-07-2009, 03:15 PM
My nipples hurt just reading about those creeps rough hands on dancers' nipples!

gemini_baby
10-07-2009, 05:19 PM
I'm really not being nasty here I am purely curious: Doesn't that feel disgusting?

Eh, when they go about it in a sloppy way it does feel a bit disgusting but other than that it doesn't really phase me. Also, 9 times out of 10 I'm so detached from the situation that I'm just focused on what I'm doing and making sure the guy stays in check.

Christyismyalias
10-07-2009, 06:25 PM
There are many girls I know at my club who let/promote every guy they have in VIP suck on their nipples. They just stick them in his mouth.
This is an EVERY night occurance and EVERY VIP. They usually get 2+ VIPS a night and don't even do the usual entertaining/trying to avoid any contact with the customer, they just automatically stick them right in their mouths... It's very gross to me to think that every night they go home having had multiple men suck on their nipples. I think it's because they are lazy. Or they feel the guys deserve it for spending a few hundred. It definitely takes more effort and WORK to entertain a guy for an hour instead of just handing him nipples and letting him have his way.
SO GROSS.

And then there's always the issue of, if I'm in group rooms with them (which happens regularly), my guy gets pissed off because I am NOT that friendly.
In turn, they get angry at me and feel "ripped off". VERY frustrating. Because my VIPs always have a good time, unless they see that kinda shit and realize the other guys getting more!

Blue_Dust_Bunny
10-07-2009, 07:13 PM
I have pierced nipples, so I just worry about some asshole pulling on them or giving me and infection. I don't mind boob touching that much. I don't really allow it, but if I guy is kinda being handy during a dance, I will politely try to correct it without really stressing out about it. In my opinion, I'm a naked girl in a stupid man's lap - shit happens

sexy_celeste
10-07-2009, 07:33 PM
Christyismyalias - EWWWW!!!
I know what you mean, and the thought of my boobs at the end of the night - ewwww!

Ive 'let' custies kiss my boobs, in the way that I have my boobs in their face, am a bit distracted and next thing I know they are kissing/sucking. I step back say "thats against the rules, $50 tip or I walk away right now" and they usually pay, then get an airdance for the remaining time.

Plus my boobs HURT right now, since Im a baby factory.

taylormadison
10-07-2009, 07:43 PM
^why isn't this post in the hustle hut? I could of banked on $5 LD night at my club if I knew this line! I would of banked because I walked out with less than $50.

bigbangburrito
10-07-2009, 08:03 PM
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taylormadison
10-07-2009, 10:51 PM
bigbangburrito: Thank you for sharing especially honestly! Don't forget to vote if you haven't already!

Rayna Skye
10-08-2009, 12:07 AM
I work in South Florida and have seen it all. I'm guilty of most of the things listed. If the guy is respectful, after many dances I'll let him have some breast or ass play. I'm sorry if I took money away from you. At least I'm admitting what the rest of you won't. Down here you don't pay your rent by being a girlscout.

I have only kissed two customers in the club. I have only let one finger me. The kissing was done to keep a very big spender hooked. The fingering was a very unique situation and I wasn't thinking about money when I gave him the go ahead.

I respect your honesty. ;)

Yeah, why wasn't kissing on the list. Man, I kissed the hell out of a dude one time for 800 bucks, and he was hot so it was sooooo worth it. There was a lot of spitting when he wasn't looking, and I hit that mouth wash before the song was over good, but yeah, I think that would be an extra anywhere you go.

taylormadison
10-08-2009, 12:34 PM
^I forgot kissing.

The poll results are interesting even without it.

mediocrity
10-08-2009, 12:56 PM
I work in South Florida and have seen it all. I'm guilty of most of the things listed. If the guy is respectful, after many dances I'll let him have some breast or ass play. I'm sorry if I took money away from you. At least I'm admitting what the rest of you won't. Down here you don't pay your rent by being a girlscout.
I have only kissed two customers in the club. I have only let one finger me. The kissing was done to keep a very big spender hooked. The fingering was a very unique situation and I wasn't thinking about money when I gave him the go ahead.

The only sentences I have a problem with are these ones.

First of all, "the rest of you" insinuates every one of us has done these activities, and that is simply not true. I know myself and a few other girls really feel we just couldn't stomach it. I know I could not go to bed with myself at night if I did any of these things. Everyone has their own boundaries.

Why insult on top of it? I guess that's the part that hurt my feelings the most. I would never call you names for admitting you have done these things. Why the reverse situation?

kennedymichaels
10-08-2009, 01:29 PM
The club I've been working at recently is an extras club. It's pretty much full service.There are 2 seperate VIPs for clean girls and dirty girls and it seems to work well. The club is always packed open to close even on Sunday. Probably the only club around that still has $1500/2g nights. Also, probably the reason there are consistently 50 thoroughbreds working.

J.D.
10-08-2009, 06:17 PM
^^^^what city is this in? Just curious....

laurcon
10-08-2009, 06:37 PM
^ lol isn't everyone JD ;)

bigbangburrito
10-08-2009, 07:34 PM
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Elvia
10-08-2009, 07:49 PM
I'm sorry if I hurt anybodies feelings(my post was not directed at anyone in particular). It was a general statement. Maybe I'm just jaded? It's just that I've seen many many dancers do some extras and then I come on here we all act like we are angels, and I just can't stand the hypocrisy. Plus, there are many threads where those of us who admit to doing extras get attacked.

The sex industry has always had a way of isolating people. One of the unfortunate effects of this is that, even though strip club environments can vary so wildly between states, cities, and even individual clubs, a lot of people tend to think their experience is the universal experience. But there are a lot of very clean clubs and even very clean cities out there.

Secondly, I think you have to realize that while this thread may have created a safe space for girls to talk openly about extras, it's also fair to realize that if you are engaging in extras in a club where that's not the standard for everyone, then you are compromising a lot of people's ability to do their job without resorting to breaking the law, so it's understandable that that is going to upset people.

NREXM
10-12-2009, 03:02 PM
Extras is fairly subjective in my club because we have a huge amount of typically clean dancers. As I've heard from other dances, my dances are considered "very dirty" by their social norms because I allow guys to kiss my breasts--for a much higher price. Sure it's borderline prostitution, but I'm not about to leave with under $300/night. Seattle house fees are phenomenally high and it's near impossible to be completely clean and sustain a decent living. I'm completely comfortable with guys kissing my body, grinding, and general high contact. I don't allow people to touch my pussy though.

I feel that if the club was more lenient on extras, I wouldn't be morally opposed to hand jobs. I'd never have intercourse or give blow jobs. Blow jobs MAYBE, if the price was right. Usually when I look for clubs, I see which ones are the "dirtiest" without offering things like sex. Higher contact generally means more money for me.

I don't understand why my actions upset people. I've never cared how another dancer conducted business even knowing that many girls let guys finger bang them. I think it's better to mind your own business when it comes to stripping.

taylormadison
10-12-2009, 03:11 PM
NREXM: WoW, I want to thank you for sharing honestly!
I hope you voted in the poll

JayATee
10-12-2009, 03:16 PM
I don't understand why my actions upset people. I've never cared how another dancer conducted business even knowing that many girls let guys finger bang them. I think it's better to mind your own business when it comes to stripping.

We care bc it hurts our money if we're clean dancers. Guys aren't gonna come to me for just a lap dance if they can get a hand job from someone else. That means you're taking money out of my pocket bc you won't play by the rules.

That said, if you're working in what you call a "dirty" club to begin with, you're right no one should care bc they're probably all doing the same thing anyway which is why you're referring to it as a "dirty club" in the first place.

PS. Im not judging or flaming you. Im just answering your question.

NREXM
10-14-2009, 04:17 PM
We care bc it hurts our money if we're clean dancers. Guys aren't gonna come to me for just a lap dance if they can get a hand job from someone else. That means you're taking money out of my pocket bc you won't play by the rules.

That said, if you're working in what you call a "dirty" club to begin with, you're right no one should care bc they're probably all doing the same thing anyway which is why you're referring to it as a "dirty club" in the first place.

PS. Im not judging or flaming you. Im just answering your question.
I don't know about that. There are girls at my home club that offer a lot more extras than I do yet I still make out with enough to keep my satisfied; hell there are girls that are willing to go outside and bang customers for $250. If extras were the norm then I could see clean dancers hurting for money but if they are less than half then I don't really see the problem.

Maybe clean dancers have a bad rep with me because the clean dancers at my club sit in the back and complain about the rapid prostitution in the city while the extras girls are out there getting the customers.

taylormadison
10-14-2009, 06:06 PM
NREXM: Would I be a nosy Rosy if I asked if you worked in a nude or topless club? You can pm me if it's private or not answer if it's personal.

Yep, this is a good thread with a better poll!

Elvia
10-14-2009, 07:59 PM
I don't know about that. There are girls at my home club that offer a lot more extras than I do yet I still make out with enough to keep my satisfied; hell there are girls that are willing to go outside and bang customers for $250. If extras were the norm then I could see clean dancers hurting for money but if they are less than half then I don't really see the problem.

Maybe clean dancers have a bad rep with me because the clean dancers at my club sit in the back and complain about the rapid prostitution in the city while the extras girls are out there getting the customers.

There's a good chance it won't stay that way. When girls start doing more and more, it can quickly become a race to the bottom for everyone. You're giving the customers certain expectations. What happens when they guy you gave extras to takes another girl to VIP and freaks out because she won't do what you did?

laurcon
10-15-2009, 12:05 AM
I don't know about that. There are girls at my home club that offer a lot more extras than I do yet I still make out with enough to keep my satisfied; hell there are girls that are willing to go outside and bang customers for $250. If extras were the norm then I could see clean dancers hurting for money but if they are less than half then I don't really see the problem.

Maybe clean dancers have a bad rep with me because the clean dancers at my club sit in the back and complain about the rapid prostitution in the city while the extras girls are out there getting the customers.

i def agree with this last part, although i never thought of it myself. but once i read it, it makes sense. i'd say many times the girls don't end up really doing the extras, i know many girls at my club believe in leading a guy into thinking that extras will happen in the CR and then drawing it out and end up not doing it. i've seen girls that i know are "extras girls" still do rooms with me and not do extras, but be masters of leading them on... for HOURSSS. while i'm great at landing rooms cleanly, holding onto them for hours without help is quite difficult, that's why i work with another girl 85% of the time, thank god. and its not like i have one set partner, i work well with lots of girls, if they do extras or not.


also, NREXM mentioned girls going OTC to bang for $250 and i was SHOCKED to hear tonight from a customer with me in a CR that a girl offered to leave with him for $300! i was making the same for hanging out topless with him in the CR for 1/2hr. surprisingly he said he liked how i actually danced on stage (cause the DJ played Britney's newest song for me) and took me to a room just so he could smoke ciggs (he was from London). makes me think of this quote...


I wish girls would see they can made money without being sexual with a complete stranger likely in a VIP with an unwashed couch.

It totally breaks my heart.

thanks medio ;)

JayATee
10-15-2009, 02:54 PM
I don't know about that. There are girls at my home club that offer a lot more extras than I do yet I still make out with enough to keep my satisfied; hell there are girls that are willing to go outside and bang customers for $250. If extras were the norm then I could see clean dancers hurting for money but if they are less than half then I don't really see the problem.

Maybe clean dancers have a bad rep with me because the clean dancers at my club sit in the back and complain about the rapid prostitution in the city while the extras girls are out there getting the customers.

Like I said, if you're working in a club where literally EVERYONE is doing extras you're right, you're not hurting anyone's money. However, the few extras girl at my club do hurt my money bc for the most part I work in a pretty clean club. Just bc your past experience tells you otherwise doesn't mean its right. Nor is assuming that we're all sitting upstairs bitching about the lack of money. I work my ass off. And Im a clean dancer.

laurcon
10-16-2009, 12:03 AM
Like I said, if you're working in a club where literally EVERYONE is doing extras you're right, you're not hurting anyone's money. However, the few extras girl at my club do hurt my money bc for the most part I work in a pretty clean club. Just bc your past experience tells you otherwise doesn't mean its right. Nor is assuming that we're all sitting upstairs bitching about the lack of money. I work my ass off. And Im a clean dancer.


totally. unfortunately you're not the norm, or else i'd feel like i was working at dream girls 8)

laurcon
10-16-2009, 12:11 AM
okay... i'm drunk and using the iphone calc... but the poll adds up to 172.61% :whistlebl

taylormadison
10-17-2009, 12:45 AM
Laurcon: I am guessing because you can choose more than one option/ as many that apply. Why are you doing math drunk, lol!

Elvia
10-17-2009, 01:16 AM
I was told there would be no math in stripping.

Juno
10-17-2009, 04:11 AM
This thread makes me really happy to be (soon, hopefully) working in a low-contact club. Unfortunately from what I've heard, the rules seem to change depending on the shift manager, which means while other girls are giving the guys everything and I'm following the rules my customer is pissed off and belligerent because I won't give him what everyone else is giving. For me it's not the case of less money. I've figured out a long time ago that if you play things safe, you will most likely get the smaller reward than the other people who take a chance. That's fine. What scares me is the customer who feels entitled to extras because other girls have made it the norm. Now, this is more the belligerent customer's fault than any girl who does extras, but I can't help feeling like it's an enabling mentality from other girls and I have to reap the horrible consequences because of it.

Don't mean to step on toes; just something that scares me a little. :-[