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goldi
10-24-2009, 01:47 PM
oh yea, he ALSO said there was already an Olivia there. and id need a new name. so im thinking Moravea.. yea? ;]
Lola_sinn
10-24-2009, 02:11 PM
Deodorant is good for preventing razor burn, I know it sounds weird but it works.
I really don't think Moravea is a good stripper name, think about how many drunk dudes you will have to explain it to in a night! Based on your pictures I think Monique or something similar sounds good.
Oh and my club did the same thing when I started, before letting me start working on Saturdays they had me come in on a Tuesday night for "training", which was basically one of the senior girls giving us a rundown of the rules of stage rotation, VIP rooms, etc and then sending us in the back to use the pole.
Elvia
10-24-2009, 02:13 PM
I really don't think Moravea is a good stripper name, think about how many drunk dudes you will have to explain it to in a night! Based on your pictures I think Monique or something similar sounds good.
I agree. Keep it something simple that the guys can remember. Monique is a good one.
mediocrity
10-24-2009, 02:27 PM
No no no. Moravia was a slavic state back in the day.
Why not Olive? or Maura? Liv? Mara? Marissa?
laurcon
10-24-2009, 02:43 PM
i think you look like a Shay :)
goldi
10-24-2009, 05:25 PM
aww damn. lol this is gonna take some thought. i got a couple days to figure it out...
mediocrity- did u work at hustler? i cant remember if u said u did.... if so, did u have to work with sean or mike??
Miss Jessica
10-24-2009, 06:59 PM
Sorry to hear they gave you trouble, could have been a bad day for everyone don't let their attitudes discourage you. Roaring 20's and the Hungry I used to be nice little clubs at one point... it's a damn shame.
DesuvsDeath
10-24-2009, 08:08 PM
Sometimes managers just rub new girls the wrong way.
When I started at my club... I thought 2/3 managers were ASSHOLES... turns out... only one of them is. ;D
Way to go with landing the job!
goldi
10-24-2009, 11:47 PM
haha, thats how this is kinda. ^^ i was told 1 out of 3 are assholes but 2 of them seem to be so far. and one has taken me under his wing so far.
n yea, roaring 20's and hungry i are like, uh... just .... -smh- they smelled like pickle sandwiches and the girls were... eh. and theyre so tiny that i feel like im in a bad stage play...with greasy mirrors and cheesy floor to ceiling paisly print. just couldnt feel sexy there. dont remember which one...but one of those tiny ass places has the lap dance booths RIGHT AT THE ENTERANCE AND EXPOSED so right when u walk in u see two women grinding on each guy hella out in the open right where u pay. it was tacky as fuck.
workin on the name stilll... but got my deodorant for shavin! woot!
laurcon
10-25-2009, 12:33 AM
i don't really think its a big deal to have a manager want you to start on a tuesday instead of a friday with no experience! i honestly think they were looking out for you and its a good thing in the long run, its only a few days :)
mediocrity
10-25-2009, 02:30 PM
aww damn. lol this is gonna take some thought. i got a couple days to figure it out...
mediocrity- did u work at hustler? i cant remember if u said u did.... if so, did u have to work with sean or mike??
No; Gold Club, Centerfolds, Broadway Showgirls. Kit Kat in Sunnyvale.
goldi
10-26-2009, 05:22 PM
ladies!! should i shave tomorrow of tonight? i have pole class tonight and i dont wanna be all nasty n stubbly for that, but i have my first night tomorrow and i wanna be super smooth, i just dont wanna risk havin razor burn.. AGAIN. god. that was horrible. i got some dove deodorant and baby oil and bikini zone. lord i hope i dont get the same ass and jayjay rash. that shit was NOT CUTE.
DesuvsDeath
10-26-2009, 09:41 PM
^^^If you have very sensitive skin you might try shaving with the direction the hair grows in... I find I very rarely get razor burn doing it that way...
But if I shave super smooth by doing it against the grain... I nearly always do.
I don't think it would matter as much if you're stubbley at your pole class as it would for work if you don't want to shave two days in a row.
goldi
10-26-2009, 09:52 PM
i ended up not shavin. my pits were HELLA STUBBY. fuck it. lol. i wanna be smooth for tomorrow but i tryna think htf imma get it so clean shaven without going against the grain
charlie61
10-27-2009, 06:37 AM
Baby oil is the devil!!! Shave with cheap conditioner. Baby oil tended to give me razor burn really easily. Plus, it's slippery and hard to get off.
mediocrity
10-27-2009, 01:02 PM
Baby oil is a serious no no. There's a girl at my club who's wearing it- I almost bust my ass onstage. I don't know who she is yet, but it's definitely with some frequency.
Fact: I fell onstage at Centerfolds due to baby oil residue on granite. Lucky I didn't smack my teeth out, because I landed on my face.
goldi
10-27-2009, 01:15 PM
holy shit. naww naw i didnt mean to lather it on before i go to work.. i mean like.. i heard that u should use it around the area u wanna shave and it helps keep it smooth.. but..... that sounds right.. about the being slick and slippery and resulting in razor burn.. i even can see it clogging the pores n causing ingrowns. damn. i thought i did my research. lol. i DID get conditioner tho. some cheap shit from the dollar store with green tea in it. and some single blade razors.. im just TERRIFIED that my shit is gonna look like chicken pocks.. lord.
n mediocrity, yea. that sounds ALLLLL bad. i wouldnt put it on while or before work. i cant see that shit being anything but dangerous..
goldi
10-27-2009, 01:45 PM
so, tonights my first night!!! yeeee!
im excited but slightly nervous.. any tips in particular for first nights? i been doin my homework in the hustle hutttttt
mediocrity
10-27-2009, 04:59 PM
so, tonights my first night!!! yeeee!
im excited but slightly nervous.. any tips in particular for first nights? i been doin my homework in the hustle hutttttt
Be yourself. For real. Don't sweat what the other chicks are doing- you're there to make money, not friends. Don't do anything that you're uncomfortable with- don't be afraid to say no and stick up for yourself. Keep your money on you at all times, bring a lock- girls are shady and steal all the time.
HAVE FUN. Don't focus on how many dances you do tonight. Focus on making every one you do just that much better.
Good luck baby. Tell us all about it tomorrow.
goldi
10-27-2009, 05:17 PM
eeeeeee thanks girl. here i go!! ;D <3
goldi
10-28-2009, 09:01 AM
so, theres about to be a lot of cussing in this paragraph. i hope u can tolerate it.
so i live about an hour away from the club and i had to be there at 7 last night, so i left at 5... i dunno if u guys heard about it, but a cable on the bay bridge broke so from 6- 9 i was in bumper to bumper traffic.. the cable fell ON three cars so there was CHAOS ..everyone on the fucking freeway thought the bridge was breaking down, so EVERYONE was trying to get off the bridge as soon as fuckin possible.. there was debri and crashes left n right.. i calle the manager n told him i was in hella bad traffic and i would be late.he said ok. then when i found out the bridge was closed INDEFINITELY i called back an hour later n said i couldnt come in. he must have thought i was bullshitting cuz he hella brushed me off AGAIN and said to just call tomorrow. even tho i asked him if i could come in today, he said to just call. so now, i feel like im gonna get fired before i even fuckin start. its so frustrating.. if anyone is in the bay area, you guys all know that the only other way to get to the city is on bart, which is gonna be equally packed. just.... FRUSTRATED. i feel like im starting off horribly at this club..i really wanned it to work out. ;[
mediocrity
10-28-2009, 01:36 PM
I would use the BART, man. What suburb are you in? You can PM me if you don't want to announce it.
goldi
10-28-2009, 02:47 PM
girl, the fuckin bart is populated with the 280,000 ppl that needa take there ass to work ! i drove past the fuckin bart station on my way home this morning in oakland and of course- NO PARKING. so id have to take a fuckin cab from _____ville. i cant even express how fuckin defeated i feel. i swear, for the last week ive tried makin this happen, and each time its.,... FAIL. oh yea, my fiance was sick last night so with him coughing in the car for the FOUR HOURS WE SAT IN TRAFFIC on the bridge, i caught whatever he had, now im coughin up loogies and i got fever chills. the manager told me to call today, but i feel like if i tell him im sick now, hes REALLy gonna think im bullshittin. plus, even if i wasnt sick, the bridge isnt set to open until later this week. hes GOTTA understand THAT cuz i know the club HAD to be slow today and last night... when u think i should call? mediocrity, me sad. ;[
goldi
10-28-2009, 02:52 PM
"
Current Status (as of 9:45 a.m., 10/28/09)
The Bay Bridge remains CLOSED in both directions until AT LEAST after the Wednesday evening commute and possibly longer. All traffic is being diverted to other bridges. Motorists are advised to expect delays, use alternate routes, and plan ahead for the morning commute. Check back for transit updates and for an updated bridge reopening schedule as more information becomes available.
http://baybridgeinfo.org/#at
FML
mediocrity
10-28-2009, 03:02 PM
girl, the fuckin bart is populated with the 280,000 ppl that needa take there ass to work ! i drove past the fuckin bart station on my way home this morning in oakland and of course- NO PARKING. so id have to take a fuckin cab from _____ville. i cant even express how fuckin defeated i feel. i swear, for the last week ive tried makin this happen, and each time its.,... FAIL. oh yea, my fiance was sick last night so with him coughing in the car for the FOUR HOURS WE SAT IN TRAFFIC on the bridge, i caught whatever he had, now im coughin up loogies and i got fever chills. the manager told me to call today, but i feel like if i tell him im sick now, hes REALLy gonna think im bullshittin. plus, even if i wasnt sick, the bridge isnt set to open until later this week. hes GOTTA understand THAT cuz i know the club HAD to be slow today and last night... when u think i should call? mediocrity, me sad. ;[
Oh girl. I know where you live and that's a fucking HAUL.
Get a Dr's note and fax it to him.
black_widow
10-28-2009, 03:36 PM
Seriously, don't start at a really high end club! You will be completely overwhelmed! Or if you MUST, due to the nature of the clubs in your city (I hear mixed things about San Fran), start on day shift. Really.
I started at this craphole place in the mid-west called "The Shady Lady", and it is probably one of the most divey places I've ever worked at, but it was a great place to start--everyone was very friendly, accepting and the customers were really laid back and nice AND they understood I was new and the first week didn't charge me ANY tip out at all! After that, if I had a bad day, they just waived it and even after awhile the fees were still only a flat 10% of what I made--that included all tips for doorguy, bartender (it wasn't customary to tip the manager and there was no DJ--just a jukebox, that's how divey it was!). I mean, it was run by the mob and it was ROUGH--we had crack heads come in all the time and homeless people so they could get out of the cold or the heat--but at the end of the day, it really did help me get my act together, learn a stage show, learn how to do dances, learn how to interact with customers, ect without getting discouraged.
Plus--it was slow and the other girls would give me lessons on how to dance on stage and how to do lapdances. I'd practice on the bartender all time, lol.
Anyways--my point is, if you can, just go to a lower end club because I promise you their stage fees will be MUCH lower. Yeah, the club will be slower and the clientele will not have much cash, but once you get your act together and learn a decent hustle, you'll be able to more easily move up without getting psyched out or overwhelmed. And, who knows?, you may end up making bank anyways.
And as for topless vs. nude--topless clubs are a joke anymore. I hate to say it, but right now, the money is all in nude. The nude clubs have less overhead, less money that they have to spend to run them, so they are doing better, and since customers have less money to spend, they feel that when they go to a strip club, they want to get "the most for their money" and nude clubs, by showing them pussy AND tits seem to fulfill that moreso than topless. Plus, if a guy goes to a nude club, mostly he can either bring his own beer (cheaper than buying it) or he can't even spend money on alcohol cuz it isn't sold, so they think of this as "saving money" too. Also, and I hate to say it, but it's true, extras go on more in nude clubs, and guys know this, and feel that their money is more likely to get them a BJ in a nude club vs a topless club. It sucks, but that's the way it is.
Being nude isn't that bad. I've gone back and forth between nude and topless and once you get over flapping your vag in people's faces, it really becomes a non-issue. The only thing that bothers me is the health issues of being totally naked all the time--I get weirded out rubbing my naked vag on a pole or stage that other people have used, same with sitting in chairs, on benches, even customer's laps naked. I feel that dancing nude includes more of a health risk, but if you're fastidious like I am about being clean, carry around hand sanatizer and make sure that when you're naked on stage you don't put your pussy anywhere and you clean everything, you'll be fine.
Just do it! Life isn't lived by people too scared to jump in. :)
laurcon
10-29-2009, 01:13 AM
^ hey black-widow thanks for that. i've always danced either bikini or now topless, and was raised with a maid and no supervision so i was never really a super clean person, i know that sounds bad but hey its true. i understand many people are very clean and hygienic and that's awesome, but i was surprised reading some threads at how very serious and important and upsetting other girls somewhat poor hygiene was. i now definitely understand much more having you vagina exposed and out there touching things. even though its probably not that bad scientifically, mentally it would make a big difference to me.
i completely agree too with the starting in a lower-end club. i wrote that in an earlier thread too and i believe goldi said i discouraged her :( which was totally not what i meant. was just being honest that there's a lot more room for mistakes like missing work due to traffic and illness at a club that also has to deal with crackhead dancers doing much worse shit. i know it might sound bad, but when you're starting, i really think you need that room for error. a lot of stripping is "learning things the hard way". i mean, goldi, you're hired there which is an awesome accomplishment that should give you lots of confidence. so i'd say give a shot but working at that particular club right now isn't make or break at all in your dancing career. i know you need the money now, but i think the money would be there for a great girl like you at a smaller club too :)
goldi
10-29-2009, 10:29 AM
very tru. but all the other clubs i went to on broadway were all the same- tiny, smelled, tacky and gross. and i just couldnt feel sexy there.... if i cant feel sexy i cant see myself selling shit. and at the smaller clubs, they ALL had to do more work...like HELLA pole work and more ass clapping and just MORE just to get singles. the type of men that were in there wanned that kinda entertainment whereas my club, the girls do a lot less on stage and really have the space to hustle. im not knockin the smaller ones at all, i just cant see myself feeling good walking in and doin my think. i felt nasty even as a customer...
i was so sick yesterday, so much that i couldnt move.... but i feel 85% better right now.. even tho the bridge is still closed, they might reopen it later today.. and i might call the nice manager to see if im able to come in later. hopefully there not done with me.
glitzy
11-03-2009, 04:15 PM
Thanks for the breakdown of your audition Goldi...
I might audition at Hungry I this weekend just to get my foot in the door in North Beach and get back into the swing of things.
If it doesn't work out and it's 100% dead maybe I'll come tryout at Hustler!
I'd love if you kept updating on how your first week goes. :)
laurcon
11-03-2009, 04:18 PM
did you go back goldi? what's happening?
Caprica6
11-03-2009, 04:58 PM
Man that's some tough luck :( hope everything works out for you.
goldi
11-03-2009, 10:52 PM
yea, i got over my flu. and the bridge is back up. and i start on thursday. im so ready now.. ;] i just hope no more fucked up things happen to prevent me starting....
lizzybaby
11-03-2009, 11:54 PM
Hey everyone, I've been following this thread since I am thinking of working in SF. Congrats Goldi on getting hired, even if things started out rocky. I have danced before at a nude club in Washington DC, but in DC there are no lap dances, and no pole tricks (and no spreading, ie keep your legs together when nude). So basically I made decent money just kinda gyrating and looking sexy and I am pretty good at talking to guys (like 400-500 a night, approximately 35-50 in tip out). I'm kinda scared of working in SF bc of the competition and tip out and not knowing any pole tricks. How did everyone learn?? Is knowing some tricks a necessity before dancing? I am pretty sure I can figure out how to give lap dances!!
Anyways, I guess I would try to audition at a medium level club, since I don't know how to pole dance. Any suggestions? I read earlier in the thread someone thought all the money was in nude clubs. I've only been to Centerfolds and Showgirls in SF. I thought Showgirls was fabulous, but one of the higher-end clubs. I would think too that girls would make more money where guys can drink.
Oh, also, what time does night shift start generally? I have a day job a couple days a week and I work until like 6 pm usually. At my club in DC, night shift girls checked in at like 5:30-8, depending on what schedule they wanted.
Thanks girls!!
goldi
11-04-2009, 08:41 AM
well, after tommorow ill be able to fill u in a little more on answering ur questions... but i can say that the other clubs onbroadway are kinda a waste of time right now.. and im at hustler and literally 6 of the 200 girls do pole tricks there.. its less of the tricks and more of the sensuous and sexy, everything at my club is slow n sexy,... and no ass clapping like at the other clubs.. u really do LESS FOR MORE. and my nights start at 7-4am. the day shift is 11am-7 pm. theyre pretty flexible if u get in wit the nice manager. ill be able to answer more for u on friday
glitzy
11-05-2009, 08:25 AM
Good luck today, Goldi! Let us know how it goes. ;)
goldi
11-05-2009, 09:02 AM
ty babe. im excited ;]
goldi
11-05-2009, 09:12 AM
oh yea guys, im kinda worrried about getting burnt out this week... with my new dancin job n all.. i have another job too, which is an hour 15 away fro the club, so for 2 of the nights, ill have to go from dancing ALL night to going to a 5:30 am to 1 shift.. and then a 10am - 5 shift. its gonna be hard. and i think ill be sore more than tired..overall useless at my other job, any tips on wtf to be eating, and doin to avoid the fatigue?
^^^^ When are you going to sleep? I couldn't work that much. Is it just this week, or is this going to be a regular thing for you?
lizzybaby
11-05-2009, 01:11 PM
Try to eat carbs in the morning and protein at night. And try to get some cardio in there if you have time for extra energy. I drink a lot of coffee (I have a day job and go to school) so I definitely need the caffeine. I'm worried about the same thing if I start working in SF - that I will just be useless at my day job in the office or at school. I think if I start working in SF I could only do one night shift during the week and then maybe one weekend shift. I think that's all the time I have in my schedule.
Just take things one day at a time though!! You're gonna be great :)
goldi
11-05-2009, 05:36 PM
jd, the hell if i know! lmao fake sick tomorrow at my day job n hope they dont know i stayed up all night.. sht. lol. welp. thanks guys, im going now!!!! yeeeee
!!!
goldi
11-05-2009, 07:34 PM
I'm in the dressing room, got dressed and went out there to meet with the manager... Again...( I start at 7 but I got here early.. It's 6:30.. I figured with the mix up last time with my SCC is cone eArly to avoid the bullshit... ) the manager was like "go tell the Dj ur here n ready for night" I'm like, "uh, don't u remember last time I hadn't finished the paperwork.." n he's like "oh... Uhhh... Ok well I'm too busy right now, ull have to go wait in the dressing room until after 7" and he's HELLA not fucking busy.. He was standing there when I approached him. I'm trying to not let this get me in a bad mood but why the fuck is this muthafucka PLAYIN. In so sick of feelin brushed off by him
^^^ suck it up and deal with it right now. You're about to making mad money, so just deal with this idiot for the time being. I know how you feel lady!
mediocrity
11-06-2009, 02:42 PM
So did you get to work or no?
goldi
11-06-2009, 05:23 PM
ok so here goes my first night....
after getting over the frustration that i was being shuffled off.. i had to wait an hour in the vIP just for them to figure out who was gonna do my orientation...
i was kinddddda intimidated by the girls on stage, cuz for some reason, i couldnt seem do to any basic spin on the pole without sliding down awkwardly... i think someone had oil on.. anywho, after getting on i watched to see how girls approached the guys, and most of them were REALLY agressive, and basically snatched them up and took them to a dark corner n sat on their lap until they said yes to a dance.. that part didnt scare me too much, i have no problem approaching men, i think what scared the SHIT outta me was WTF I WAS SUPPOSED TO SAY after i got there.. god THAT was akward as FUCK. im laughing about it now, but when it was happening i wanned to go in the DR and cry... i sat down with this REALLy handsome dude, and he was HELLa friendly, seemed really into me, and kept looking at me......like.. bitch ASK THE QUESTION! but i just smiled my way thru the whole awkward 3 minutes and in my head tried to figure out how to ask him without ASKING him flat out.. omg... lol.. he was staring at me like o_o and i was staring at him like O_O....... god.
THENNN i get this ANCIENT ass dude who looks like a professor.. and i tell him its my first night and he should be my first dance since he looks like a professor, and he could be my teacher.. lol.. he kinda liked that so he was my first dance.. and that shit was gross. i had to just block out his fuckin face and that nose........
then theres the snaggletooth dude who i think i sold 3 dances too before i was DYING with laughter in my mind about his teeth protruding... he was fun. "wade" lmao.
THEN there was the horny ass punjab with the mushroom curly fro, who wanted to play like we were in love, and he was my lover. lmao. god.. these men..... and i maybe sold 4 dances to him... not all at one time.. cuz i had to go to the bathroom ( which i will never do again) and told him id be back,... and when i came back, of course the fool was with someone else. ;/
hmmm.. tTHENNNN there was this fat hispanic Buddah lookin guy, hella drunk who said he brought his lesbian friend to show her a good time.. and agreed to do a 3 for 100 dance with me for her but he never got around to that, and i kept having to hustle his ass for 20 $ dances,..,, which i danced one or two for him and one for his lez friend who WOULDNT stop trying to finger me. GOD. weirddd.... that one i did with another girl, and she almost jipped me.
OMIGAH there was this dude who was soooooooooooOOOOO fuckin shitfaced that he was buyin everyone at the bar drinks on a open tab and leaving n coming back, ppl were buying all kindsa shit on his tab.. lmao.. and when i tried to hustle him into a dance, he said "YAAAAA WHATEVER U WANNA DO BABY GIRLLLLL" so im like, ok, lets go into the VIP, its 3 for $100 .. he sits down and hes so fuckin drunk that hes slurring n shit, '"100???? fuckkkk YOOOOUU!!! this is BULLSHITTT!" -slur- im like.. lmaoooo wtf??? ur paying 1000 for a tab and u cant even spend 100n for entertainment? fawk U!
so in all, i made $221 which i dont think is that bad, considering i was gonna have a breakdown around 10 oclock.. i just have to figure out... wtf to say to keep the momentum going while im sitting with the guy.. and how to get it to the dance part without flat out asking for it...
im goin to work now, just getting off my day job... so wish me good luck girls... again. thanks so much!! ;D
mediocrity
11-06-2009, 06:20 PM
^^ Good job! $221 isnt bad for a start at all; and in fact in some cities, even experienced girls arent making that!
lizzybaby
11-06-2009, 09:41 PM
haha well at least you can find humor in the situation. that wasn't bad money, but i am sure you will do better once you get more confidence. how much did the house take?
as far as keeping the momentum going... guys just love to talk about themselves. just keep asking them questions. i mean, you have to feel out what type of guy they are, but i can prattled on sexily about just about anything. i would be annoyed with myself, but they don't seem to be! ha.
laurcon
11-07-2009, 04:00 PM
the girls at my club get free house fee the first night. what did you have to pay out goldi?
your night sounds rough to me. not terrible or anything, esp for a first night. you made it through the hard stuff w/nasty customers. it should get better with time and experience. once you get really good at talking to guys and hustling, you can leave the nasty guys for the new girls and wait for the rich businessmen }:D
and idk if you've read on here, but lots of us dancers can't stand female customers ;)
goldi
11-07-2009, 10:34 PM
I made 921 before tip out n shit.. They took 180 and with tip out n that, I took home 700.. The stage fee is 120-280 depending on what time ur here and being in good standing. But the first night they took 60.. Tonight I set my goal at 400 take home.. I think I'll make it. It's weird how this whole game works, u got lucky just now n sat with a guy for a few songs who just wanted to be close n talk., but he gave me 60 in tips just to sit cuz he's going thru a divorce n he just needed a ear.. It was nice cuz I got him comfortable enough to do two dance. And it's only 930. Yay!
So u guys have been saying go for the business men, which hell yea, makes sense but u
so intimidated by the guys in suits cuz they soft seem interested in me..Or I just don't seem to know how to approach them :(
Wish me good luck!
glitzy
11-09-2009, 01:41 AM
700?! Damn, girl! I'm glad it's working out for you after the rough start...
Fuck Hungry I, I'm coming over to Hustler this week!
goldi
11-09-2009, 01:47 AM
Come girl!! I'm the new hated bitch but fuck it!!