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Hopper
11-03-2009, 01:16 AM
Getting back to the thread topic:

If a guy asks you that, generally speaking, he's cheap. Yes you can drum up all different scenarios where that question might be appropriate, but if I were a betting man, I'd go with cheap. He probably has $40 to spend for the night and he already blew $20 getting in the door and buying a drink.

For those of you who act as if you're choosing a stripper as if she is a used car, you're a cheapskate who hasn't come to terms with it yet. The girls don't leave much to the imagination with what they are wearing. Justify it however you want, but honestly, you aren't dropping more than $30 or $40 that night.

A guy with money to spend will get what he wants (obviously within reason) and won't have to ask dumb questions to get it.

I would imagine for a stripper, it's just a numbers game. If they pursued every guy who asked "so when do you go on stage" 9 out of 10 times they aren't getting anything. So why bother trying for that 10%.

Moral of the story, don't ask that question unless you want a LD and you're worried she's up.

Not all customers will know the right or wrong thing to say. It's natural to ask a stripper when she is going to dance on stage, since most people think that is what she is there for. If anything, it is the dancer's mistake for making it all about business. Of course she is there to do business, but she should not expect the customer to see things in terms of her interests.

Some stripper costumes do leave a lot to the imagination. I have to imagine how thin she really is underneath the corset she is wearng, or how big her boobs are inside the padded bra she is wearing. Some stripper clothes are intended to hide as much as they reveal. Sometimes it's packaging more than display.

A guy who looks before he chooses to buy and spends on what he really wants is not a cheapskate. Even if a guy has plenty of money to spend, he is stupid to spend it on a bunch of girls he is not reasonably sure he wants. People are talking here as if a customer is a cheapskate just because he doesn't spend as much as the dancer would like him to when she wants him to.

I don't ask the question, since I know all the business baggage that follows it. But I still prefer to see a girl on stage, and not seeing a girl on stage may mean I don't get an LD with said girl.

The Third Eye
11-03-2009, 10:31 AM
I'm not sure in what Amish strip clubs you've been hanging out, (having dresses down to their ankles and their blouses buttoned up to their necks) but here is a general rule of thumb. If a strippers costume is not revealing, she's trying to hide something (this isn't always true, but generally true). And if you're being that picky (and fair enough, it's your money to be picky with) move on.

But this isn't about being picky, it's about etiquette.

Generally speaking, when customers (in any service industry) breach etiquette, it means one of two things; the don't know how things work or they are cheap.

Let's take an example that isn't stripping. Waiting tables.

If you are a server, one of the worst type of tables you can have is, what I like to call, "the track coach" table. The table will order waters(free) and sandwiches (cheap) and demand that the bread basket(free) never get empty. So you'll be running laps refilling water and bread for 15 to 20 min before their food gets there. You'll work 4 times as hard for this table and get a quarter of the tip (they almost always tip 10% if at all).

Are these guys doing anything wrong? Of course not. But if you get a few of these types of tables in a row, how hard will you be busting your ass for the last one?

So like I said, it's all a numbers game. Generally speaking, the guys that use this line are cheap or don't know how things work. So why would a stripper waist her time?

Jessie_tinydancer
11-03-2009, 11:12 AM
^^^ummm it's not called having something to hide... It's called having class. When u work at a gentlemans club u don't strut around in a g-string because you're not a cheap hooker. You dress like a lady and demand a hell of a lot for a LD.

Everyman
11-03-2009, 11:26 AM
^^^ummm it's not called having something to hide... It's called having class. When u work at a gentlemans club u don't strut around in a g-string because you're not a cheap hooker. You dress like a lady and demand a hell of a lot for a LD.

Except for one "gown" club, in the clubs in my area, if you wear clothing that conceals your stomach -- it's because you have a flabby stomach. If you conceal your boobs, it's because they're not that great. Your ass, it's because you have a big one.

This pretty much holds true across the board.

J.D.
11-03-2009, 11:53 AM
^^^ I have a huge ass and I definitely don't conceal it.

jzman528
11-03-2009, 12:08 PM
What I do is before I buy any dance i watch all thegils go trough their sets. I can do this in the club I go to because only about 8-12 dancers a shift. If I like a girl I'll accept the dance if she asks or I'll ask. If I on't lke how the gil looks I politely say no thanks. I don't say maybe later, because 1 she isn't getting better looking in an hour. 2 why waste her time, let her find a guy that does like her, so she can make money.
Listen we all know the game, Tip to be polite even if you aren't into the chick and say what you mean.
Lts face it houg you ARE there for our entertainment and that is why the place hired you, but you should be respected and the guys should not treat you like shit.
If the girl is nice with no attitude then guys will be nice. It is simple.

mediocrity
11-03-2009, 01:45 PM
Except for one "gown" club, in the clubs in my area, if you wear clothing that conceals your stomach -- it's because you have a flabby stomach. If you conceal your boobs, it's because they're not that great. Your ass, it's because you have a big one.

This pretty much holds true across the board.

Really?? So if I wore a short dress in a club in your area, it means I have a flabby stomach and my boobs aren't that great?/:O Do the girls just walk around butt naked?

I never wear corsets or padded bras or the like. But I do prefer one piece dresses that come down to mid thigh or so.

dtxgirl
11-03-2009, 02:31 PM
If a strippers costume is not revealing, she's trying to hide something (this isn't always true, but generally true).


seriously..... it's 1/2 and 1/2. I've seen girls that SRSLYGODIWISH they would wear something that covered them more. I ALWAYS am very covered up, and I have nothing to hide. It makes me more money. Guys always want to know what's underneath. I happen to be in an industry where they are more than willing to pay to see it.

I did a stage set where I did nothing but collect tips and flash my boobs from under my sexy secretary jacket. I sold 5 dances and a champagne room from it.

It makes me roll my eyes that the girls who run around naked giving it away for free don't understand. And then sit in the dressing room bitching about not making money.

Some people understand how to attract the clientele they want.

The Third Eye
11-03-2009, 02:41 PM
I should clarify.

When I say revealing, I don't mean naked. A girl could be completely covered and I would have a good guess as to what she looked like underneath.

The point was, I usually don't have to wait for a girl to get up on stage to know if I'm interested or not.

KiwiStrawberry Splenda
11-03-2009, 02:48 PM
Who in their right mind hides a big ass? Men LOVE a big ass!

Maybe instead of big, substitute with flabby, saggy, unattractive, etc...but big is GOOD when its nice and round.

And I've done very well in a gown, when everyone else is wearing a bikini, its different. Of course, stripper gowns tend to be skin tight, not much you can hide.

Hopper
11-04-2009, 01:36 AM
I'm not sure in what Amish strip clubs you've been hanging out, (having dresses down to their ankles and their blouses buttoned up to their necks) but here is a general rule of thumb. If a strippers costume is not revealing, she's trying to hide something (this isn't always true, but generally true). And if you're being that picky (and fair enough, it's your money to be picky with) move on.

But this isn't about being picky, it's about etiquette.

Generally speaking, when customers (in any service industry) breach etiquette, it means one of two things; the don't know how things work or they are cheap.

Let's take an example that isn't stripping. Waiting tables.

If you are a server, one of the worst type of tables you can have is, what I like to call, "the track coach" table. The table will order waters(free) and sandwiches (cheap) and demand that the bread basket(free) never get empty. So you'll be running laps refilling water and bread for 15 to 20 min before their food gets there. You'll work 4 times as hard for this table and get a quarter of the tip (they almost always tip 10% if at all).

Are these guys doing anything wrong? Of course not. But if you get a few of these types of tables in a row, how hard will you be busting your ass for the last one?

So like I said, it's all a numbers game. Generally speaking, the guys that use this line are cheap or don't know how things work. So why would a stripper waist her time?

In many of the clubs near me the girls wear gowns/cocktal dresses. Are they all trying to hide something? Dancers don't need floor-length dresses to conceal their boobs or asses, wise-ass. If you don't think any dancer would conceal unnattractive features to get you into the LD room, can I interest you in purchasing a swish apartment in downtown Baghdad?

Wanting a girl I like isn't being picky, except in the sense that I pick one I like and leave the ones I don't. Rather, the man who doesn't distinguish is easily pleased - he just wants to see any naked girl. Not all dancers are up to any given customers standards. They definitely wouldn't be if all customers didn't only pay the ones they liked.

I know the ettiquette and I observe it. But all guys can't be expected to know ettiquette in SCs as we would expect in restaurants. Most people have visitted restaurants from age two, but most people do not frequent SCs. Therefore a dancer is not wasting her time talking to any guy who askes it. If she walks off on every guy who does, the new customers won't come again.

Asking when a girl goes on stage is not necessarily a big break with ettiquette. Nor does it necessarily mean the customer wants to see the dancer onstage to consider for a LD.

Hopper
11-04-2009, 01:46 AM
^^^ummm it's not called having something to hide... It's called having class. When u work at a gentlemans club u don't strut around in a g-string because you're not a cheap hooker. You dress like a lady and demand a hell of a lot for a LD.

Not for all dancers, but for some. I don't mean necessarily that dancers deliberately conceal, just that some stripper clothes do conceal.

In some of the clubs I've been to, dancers do walk the floor in g-strings. However, I was not implying that any dancer who wears more than a g-string is concealing her shortcomings.

You could demand more from me if I could see what it is I am paying for.

Bob_Loblaw
11-04-2009, 05:43 PM
I ask that question on occasion and it's always because I've decided I want to get 'x' number of dances and want to make sure there's enough time to do them.

I do enjoy stages for the entertainment value. We get spoiled in our area as 80% of the girls are like Cirque du Soleil performers. Like Lestat, I'd never ask the question because I wanted a preview before buying. However, sometimes stages do help me decide on dancers I'm unfamiliar with. It isn't so much how she looks. For me it's her stage presence, body language, fluidity of motion, etc. Those are things I use as hints on how her dances may be. Sometimes they don't work in a dancer's favor (e.g., she's new and awkward) while other times I've purchased dances from a girl I would not have otherwise considered.

I dunno. I think for some guys, stage shows are like a movie teaser. They just aren't going to buy without a preview hooking their interest.

ETA: A lack of stage shows does not eliminate girls who only work the floor. Equal opportunity here.

princessjas
11-06-2009, 10:40 AM
^^^ I have a huge ass and I definitely don't conceal it.

Same here! Although I personally hate it, I always seemed to get all the ass men :shrug: ....at least it isn't jiggly or dimply thanks to the stairmaster and running. So I kinda show it off. No sense in doing the bait and switch anyway, that'll just run off regs. ;)

Hopper
11-07-2009, 08:43 PM
Nobody said anything about what shape dancers should be, just about how nice it is. All size asses can be nice.

I once got a LD from a girl who I thought looked okay in her clothes. When she took them off and I touched her, I could see I had judged very poorly. She was fat, heavy, her skin was lumpy and unpleasant, boobs stretched and her personality wasn't so nice either. I felt stupid.

I'm not a cheapskate for wanting to avoid that sort of experience in future. However, if a dancer doesn't necessarily need to go on stage for me to judge properly. She could just wear the right sort of clothes.

Hopper
11-07-2009, 08:50 PM
^^^ummm it's not called having something to hide... It's called having class. When u work at a gentlemans club u don't strut around in a g-string because you're not a cheap hooker. You dress like a lady and demand a hell of a lot for a LD.

Ladies outside SCs don't do strip-teases and walk about selling LDs. Strippers aren't hookers, but their dress has some things in common - they are both showing off their bodies. Strippers should act like ladies, but obviously in the club they are a different kind of lady.

Jessie_tinydancer
11-08-2009, 12:06 AM
Nobody said anything about what shape dancers should be, just about how nice it is. All size asses can be nice.

I once got a LD from a girl who I thought looked okay in her clothes. When she took them off and I touched her, I could see I had judged very poorly. She was fat, heavy, her skin was lumpy and unpleasant, boobs stretched and her personality wasn't so nice either. I felt stupid.

I'm not a cheapskate for wanting to avoid that sort of experience in future. However, if a dancer doesn't necessarily need to go on stage for me to judge properly. She could just wear the right sort of clothes.

LOL that is sooooo funny. Sorry but I guess because I am a chick I still can't believe guys get "tricked" by flattering outfits. I can clearly tell when a chick is covering because they have a personal style they are trying to achieve or old saggy boobies they are trying to hide. I seriously had no idea you guys couldn't...this explains a lot. Like why some of the hags I work with who I know don't do extras, but still make money.


Ladies outside SCs don't do strip-teases and walk about selling LDs. Strippers aren't hookers, but their dress has some things in common - they are both showing off their bodies. Strippers should act like ladies, but obviously in the club they are a different kind of lady.

K I get what you are saying. I'm just saying I usually cover my ass in the club because thats my style. I like to look more "classy" than "trashy"... it just helps with my persona. Not because I'm hiding a lumpy ass or something... in fact most people mention it as the best part (although I tend to disagree). I also didn't mean to diss those who go for the g-string on floor look...I'm just defending those who like a little more material.

Hopper
11-08-2009, 12:44 AM
^I don't think covering up is necessarily hiding (it depends on the type of clothes) and I don't think every dancer who covers up is trying to hide any shortcomings, even if she does. Dancers should go with whatever look is sexiest for them.

The dancer I mentionned wasn't necessarily hiding either and I didn't think it was necessarily flattering, but obviously it hid a lot. I was being a little less careful that time. Usually I can spot if something is not right and if I'm not sure I hold back.

J.D.
11-08-2009, 03:50 AM
^^^I'm surprised considering we all think you live in the tribes of Africa, like in the flatbrush. Be careful about telling us what strip clubs you frequent, we might pop out of a bush

Hopper
11-08-2009, 05:54 AM
^You should jump out of a cake.

laurcon
11-08-2009, 09:42 AM
Nobody said anything about what shape dancers should be, just about how nice it is. All size asses can be nice.

I once got a LD from a girl who I thought looked okay in her clothes. When she took them off and I touched her, I could see I had judged very poorly. She was fat, heavy, her skin was lumpy and unpleasant, boobs stretched and her personality wasn't so nice either. I felt stupid.

I'm not a cheapskate for wanting to avoid that sort of experience in future. However, if a dancer doesn't necessarily need to go on stage for me to judge properly. She could just wear the right sort of clothes.


LOL that is sooooo funny. Sorry but I guess because I am a chick I still can't believe guys get "tricked" by flattering outfits. I can clearly tell when a chick is covering because they have a personal style they are trying to achieve or old saggy boobies they are trying to hide. I seriously had no idea you guys couldn't...this explains a lot. Like why some of the hags I work with who I know don't do extras, but still make money.


ahh hah! totally jessie. when i read his post i was laughing like "oh so you're one of the idiots that spends time and money on those women instead of waiting for an actual hot one". those guys crack me up. esp he said she didn't have a nice personality, that's something you can't hide in an outfit or tell from dancing on stage either. that's all up to you to figure out. and was this woman in a mummy costume so you couldn't tell she was fat?
sometimes customers disappoint me with their choices, as for some reason i thought they were smarter than that, other times i see it coming a mile away. i never know who does extras and who doesn't at my club. and i'm always very surprised when i find out a girl does. :-[

laurcon
11-08-2009, 09:50 AM
Except for one "gown" club, in the clubs in my area, if you wear clothing that conceals your stomach -- it's because you have a flabby stomach. If you conceal your boobs, it's because they're not that great. Your ass, it's because you have a big one.

This pretty much holds true across the board.


Nobody said anything about what shape dancers should be, just about how nice it is. All size asses can be nice.


and btw, maybe read the posts before assuming we were responding to something that didn't exist.

stressed
11-08-2009, 09:24 PM
blah dont enjoy dances from super hot women with no personality or game.

Oh and if you have never spooned with a big ass dont knock it;D

stressed
11-08-2009, 09:25 PM
Who in their right mind hides a big ass? Men LOVE a big ass!

Maybe instead of big, substitute with flabby, saggy, unattractive, etc...but big is GOOD when its nice and round.

And I've done very well in a gown, when everyone else is wearing a bikini, its different. Of course, stripper gowns tend to be skin tight, not much you can hide.

Amen sista

Hopper
11-09-2009, 02:16 AM
and btw, maybe read the posts before assuming we were responding to something that didn't exist.

I read that, but I assumed that "big" meant "fat". He didn't specify. You can't hide a big ass but you can hide a flabby one.

Hopper
11-09-2009, 02:21 AM
ahh hah! totally jessie. when i read his post i was laughing like "oh so you're one of the idiots that spends time and money on those women instead of waiting for an actual hot one". those guys crack me up. esp he said she didn't have a nice personality, that's something you can't hide in an outfit or tell from dancing on stage either. that's all up to you to figure out. and was this woman in a mummy costume so you couldn't tell she was fat?
sometimes customers disappoint me with their choices, as for some reason i thought they were smarter than that, other times i see it coming a mile away. i never know who does extras and who doesn't at my club. and i'm always very surprised when i find out a girl does. :-[

I was rash in that case. She did seem nicer (looks and persona) than I found out she was later. That was an example of why I normally am more careful - girls can look better clothed than naked and put on a better personality before the LD.

Yes the stage dance does say something about a girl's personality - even how she walks, moves, smiles etc. does. I said her personality changed later, I didn't say her outfit hid it. Her costume covered enough that I couldn't see how fat she was. Low lighting too. She felt worse than she looked in any case.

People here seem to equate careful with cheap and talk as if customers who wait around for only the hot dancers are being cheap, like we should lower our standards (or broaden our tastes) and just take any girl. Other businesses don't tell customers what to buy, they give them what they like.

Extras had nothing to do with it. I've never eveb (knowingly) met a stripper who does extras. Never been offered, never asked, don't want them.

laurcon
11-09-2009, 09:30 AM
People here seem to equate careful with cheap and talk as if customers who wait around for only the hot dancers are being cheap, like we should lower our standards (or broaden our tastes) and just take any girl. Other businesses don't tell customers what to buy, they give them what they like.


uh not at all. we're saying if you can't tell who's hot you're a moron. i literally cannot imagine an outfit that could cover up a bad body. i don't care if its a long-sleeved floor-length gown, those things are tight. but lots of guys just see big boobs in their face and make no other assessments. and i know you're going to say "that's why we want to see you on stage" but once again we say "stage isn't worth it to me so i'd rather just go on to a more intelligent customer who can tell how hot i am with my dress on".

Hopper
11-10-2009, 12:29 AM
^It's the first time I made that mistake and after five years. I'm entitled to one. It wasn't about her boobs.

Jessie_tinydancer
11-10-2009, 01:17 AM
uh not at all. we're saying if you can't tell who's hot you're a moron. i literally cannot imagine an outfit that could cover up a bad body. i don't care if its a long-sleeved floor-length gown, those things are tight. but lots of guys just see big boobs in their face and make no other assessments. and i know you're going to say "that's why we want to see you on stage" but once again we say "stage isn't worth it to me so i'd rather just go on to a more intelligent customer who can tell how hot i am with my dress on".

How annoying is that? bahhhhh it seriously drives me insane when a girl with a gut makes money because her boobs are pushed up so high, it's the only thing the guy sees. Just makes me want fake boobies more... :( If only guys got horny for abs...

Christyismyalias
11-10-2009, 01:21 AM
so when do you dance on the stage? I hate this. I think to myself, Why? So you can see me naked before you commit to a dance? I almost always just walk off once a guy asks this, in my experience it means he's cheap. Enlighten me people!

You answered the question yourself. Because they want to see the show for free, or for a dollar.
These guys are a waste of time. period.

Adelina
05-05-2010, 04:33 AM
If you are working in Dallas, it's very typical to hear guys say "oh, when are you going to dance on the stage?" When you say it's not going to be for a while and you want to give him a dance now, he's "not ready" and if you are still there hoping you'll talk him into buying a dance, he will usually follow with a bunch of other boring, irritating questions like "Oh, where are you from?", "How long have you been living here?", "What do you do besides dancing?" etc

Kind of like he's leading you on to think he's interested 'cause obviously he wouldn't mind getting a dance from you and be sure, he would be ready for a dance if he didn't have to pay, he just doesn't have the balls to tell you he's not going to spend.

My immediate translation: he's CHEAP and IS A TIME WASTER, he wants to tie my time in a conversation for as long as he can.

BTW, I haven't heard men say this ever when I worked in NY ;)

And, to all the customers who are trying to be "nice" and can't say no to a dancer in a direct manner when they obviously don't want a dance, don't worry about hurting our feelings, we can deal with rejection, just don't waste our time. We are at work after all.

teleron
05-05-2010, 05:40 AM
hmm surprised I havent seen this thread yet

I ask usually so I can offer them monetary compensation to dance to specific music

naked ladies make music better but sometime cannot music make naked ladies better

naw probably not I just like the WTF look on the other patrons face when something truly bizarre comes on the speakers

unfortunately I can never seem to convince the ladies at my work to try something a tad different

KS_Stevia
05-05-2010, 08:47 AM
What are you into them trying Teleron?

I've had custies recommend silly songs that the DJ wouldn't play. I've also had them recommend music I didn't care for, but was within the constraints of what the DJ would play. I didn't care for the song and I think it affected my stage show, but its just a stage show so who cares.

Anthill
05-31-2010, 04:59 PM
I got to be honest, becuase of this thread, I say this now if a dancer is giving me a bunch of SS and won't leave me alone.

Andygirl
05-31-2010, 05:43 PM
How annoying is that? bahhhhh it seriously drives me insane when a girl with a gut makes money because her boobs are pushed up so high, it's the only thing the guy sees. Just makes me want fake boobies more... :( If only guys got horny for abs...

Guys like dancers who have personality, who smile and have fun when they are dancing. Sure, some are into big boobs, some are into other things. In my opinion, it is a mistake to make assumptions about what YOU think men should like. Women and men rarely see eye-to-eye when it comes to what they think looks good on a woman.

And it really comes off nasty to criticize other women's bodies as if they aren't as good as yours. Maybe that attitude is part of your problem.

rickdugan
06-01-2010, 07:56 AM
Guys like dancers who have personality, who smile and have fun when they are dancing. Sure, some are into big boobs, some are into other things. In my opinion, it is a mistake to make assumptions about what YOU think men should like. Women and men rarely see eye-to-eye when it comes to what they think looks good on a woman.

Probably one of the truest statements I have ever read on here, IMO, particularly the personality part.

laurcon
06-01-2010, 09:10 AM
Guys like dancers who have personality, who smile and have fun when they are dancing. Sure, some are into big boobs, some are into other things. In my opinion, it is a mistake to make assumptions about what YOU think men should like. Women and men rarely see eye-to-eye when it comes to what they think looks good on a woman.

And it really comes off nasty to criticize other women's bodies as if they aren't as good as yours. Maybe that attitude is part of your problem.

You read the whole thread right? I mean about the guy saying how he was fooled by not seeing a dancer on stage and she turned out to have a bad body or something. It sounds like you took this personally. When did she even say what she thinks men should like? If they like a girl with a gut and huge tits, great, then she shouldn't have to hide in a corset and there's no issue.
And I know Jessie has a great attitude and personality, and I'm sure its not part of any problem.

Perhaps you have big tits so you don't know what its like. You can have all the personality and smiles in the world but some guys still just want big tits in their face. Sure you can try to say that about other attributes of a woman, but its just not the same.
I mean whatever, guys get past lots of things... being flabby, being flat, being ugly if the circumstances are right. I just don't see why you took so much personal offense at our being tired of fat dancers fooling customers like Hopper.

Hopper
06-02-2010, 01:55 AM
You read the whole thread right? I mean about the guy saying how he was fooled by not seeing a dancer on stage and she turned out to have a bad body or something. It sounds like you took this personally. When did she even say what she thinks men should like? If they like a girl with a gut and huge tits, great, then she shouldn't have to hide in a corset and there's no issue.
And I know Jessie has a great attitude and personality, and I'm sure its not part of any problem.

Perhaps you have big tits so you don't know what its like. You can have all the personality and smiles in the world but some guys still just want big tits in their face. Sure you can try to say that about other attributes of a woman, but its just not the same.
I mean whatever, guys get past lots of things... being flabby, being flat, being ugly if the circumstances are right. I just don't see why you took so much personal offense at our being tired of fat dancers fooling customers like Hopper.

First, the stripper I spoke of did not exactly fool me, as in try to trick me. I merely misjudged her figure - as well as her personality. Nor did I say anything about her boobs. All I was saying was that had I seen that stripper on stage before she approached me for a LD, I might have seen more clearly. Her costume did not hide all of her body, but it did hide some of it. I didn't ask her to get up and turn around in front of me so I could properly inspect her. Away from the stage, the lighting in the club was very low. Her personality seemed a lot more attractive when we were chatting than when she was LDing, perhaps because she was hustling. She just turned out to be far more unappealling than I could tell by her visual appearance.

Andygirl is right - it's not all about tits. An attractive personality, a good manner, a nice body (whatever the customer thinks that is), nice dancing are enough to get LDs. Most guys don't see only big tits and nothing else. A stripper with big tits may not have other attributes as attractive as those of other strippers in the club. I like big tits but there are girls I like very much who don't have big tits and if they were strippers I'd run over to them for an LD.

Andygirl
06-02-2010, 06:12 AM
Perhaps you have big tits so you don't know what its like. You can have all the personality and smiles in the world but some guys still just want big tits in their face. Sure you can try to say that about other attributes of a woman, but its just not the same.
I mean whatever, guys get past lots of things... being flabby, being flat, being ugly if the circumstances are right. I just don't see why you took so much personal offense at our being tired of fat dancers fooling customers like Hopper.

And some guys like tiny girls who don't have big breasts at all. I did fine before I had a boob job. So do the majority of women in clubs. The girl who has a locker next to me is my physical opposite and we both do well. It just makes you sound bitter when you get worked up because some guys want girls that YOU think are unattractive. Again, who are you to say what guys should like? What business is it of yours who a guy gets a dance from? As long as he isn't a dick to you, I don't see why it matters so much.

And don't mistake my comments for personal offense. I just think it's shitty to talk like that about other women, regardless of how they look. You can get tired of guys liking what they like all day long, but it isn't going to change anything. If it's really a problem for you, then perhaps it's time to look at your own work strategy rather than criticizing everyone else. Talking shit about your co-workers, and saying how fat/ugly/whatever they are just makes YOU look bad, not them.

laurcon
06-08-2010, 10:14 AM
And some guys like tiny girls who don't have big breasts at all. I did fine before I had a boob job. So do the majority of women in clubs. The girl who has a locker next to me is my physical opposite and we both do well. It just makes you sound bitter when you get worked up because some guys want girls that YOU think are unattractive. Again, who are you to say what guys should like? What business is it of yours who a guy gets a dance from? As long as he isn't a dick to you, I don't see why it matters so much.

And don't mistake my comments for personal offense. I just think it's shitty to talk like that about other women, regardless of how they look. You can get tired of guys liking what they like all day long, but it isn't going to change anything. If it's really a problem for you, then perhaps it's time to look at your own work strategy rather than criticizing everyone else. Talking shit about your co-workers, and saying how fat/ugly/whatever they are just makes YOU look bad, not them.

I just don't understand how any of this came off that way. I don't talk about anyone, I don't give a shit. There's literally no problem and I don't understand why you're making it out like we really care.
I'm totally happy with my body and hope everyone else is too. Great.

Hopper
06-09-2010, 01:18 AM
I just don't understand how any of this came off that way. I don't talk about anyone, I don't give a shit. There's literally no problem and I don't understand why you're making it out like we really care.
I'm totally happy with my body and hope everyone else is too. Great.

Andygirl was pulling you up for what you said about "the idiots" who go for "those women" instead of "hot" girls and that it was all to do with the size of their boobs. Like maybe if you had big boobs they'd pick you instead. In that post it also sounded like you were tying it in with extras.

However (as I said a few times now - I dont know if you understand me yet) I found out during the LD (where there was better lighting, she was naked and I was allowed to touch her - I don't know, would you agree that it is easier to tell then than in low lighting, she's clothed and sitting on her fat ass half a metre from me?) she was the opposite of hot, but I got the LD with her because that was obscured from me, not because I go for her type. So yes, I thought she was very unattractive, so for me the argument isn't over that. Still, you can't label customers idiots for disagreeing with you about how attractive another stripper is.

Brooke
06-11-2010, 12:57 PM
It never bothered me except for the few times that guys said "I'll decide if I wanna dance after I see you on stage." This only happened a couple of times and it was always at this one club were my floor outfit was a bikini with a sheer wrap skirt. Uh, c'mon, I'm damn near naked here anyway. What do you think I'm hiding under a g-string with about 2 square inches of fabric?? Am I going to take that off and suddenly, whammo, I'm fat or deformed?? Like that little string is holding in a giant gut or covering neon green lady bits or something? :rotfl:

She could be hiding a lack of rythm under her g-string.

If I haven't seen a girl dance, I don't want to buy a dance from her. She may be smoking hot, but what if she can't dance? Sometimes she's really hot and I don't wait and buy the dance, only to find out she dances like a new girl (or has no rythm, etc) and I have wasted my $25. I'm not waiting to see what she looks like naked, I'm waiting to see if she can dance without turning me off. I like to get dances from professionals and I want to see that she dances like a pro, not a newbie.

Then again, I don't ask for the reasons stated before: I don't want to set expectations, etc. But if someone comes and offers me a dance before I have seen her on stage, I'll say "maybe later." If she gets on stage and moves the way I want to see, then I'll go tip her and ask her to come back for a dance after her set.

laurcon
06-15-2010, 03:20 PM
Andygirl was pulling you up for what you said about "the idiots" who go for "those women" instead of "hot" girls and that it was all to do with the size of their boobs. Like maybe if you had big boobs they'd pick you instead. In that post it also sounded like you were tying it in with extras.

However (as I said a few times now - I dont know if you understand me yet) I found out during the LD (where there was better lighting, she was naked and I was allowed to touch her - I don't know, would you agree that it is easier to tell then than in low lighting, she's clothed and sitting on her fat ass half a metre from me?) she was the opposite of hot, but I got the LD with her because that was obscured from me, not because I go for her type. So yes, I thought she was very unattractive, so for me the argument isn't over that. Still, you can't label customers idiots for disagreeing with you about how attractive another stripper is.

Omg yes I get that it wasn't about her boobs. Thanks for explaining what she was talking about though, I didn't read through my post well enough and didn't get how I came off sounding bitchy, but now I do.
I feel like the reason I called customers that go off with "those women" (meaning dancers that I feel like have some major flaws they are hiding) "idiots" was because I thought they didn't know, or just didn't wait for better quality. Not that they are idiots for liking someone that looks nothing like me. But you're both right, that maybe for those customers, that is actually what they like and not just a drunken mistake. I realize it takes all types and I've got to stop hating on chicks I personally think are nasty, but it is hard, esp when customers are doing it too. I mean, I never ever say anything bad about a girl to a customer, I just respond with "I guess she makes money though."

But also btw, there's nothing about not being "picked." It wouldn't matter if I had big tits or not because I'm not gonna break my ankle racing a vulture to a customer. That's really where my beef comes from, its not about boobs to me. If it comes down to being picked, I'm not worried, and if a customer did pick a girl that I consider not attractive, good for her, that was his choice. I just get upset when guys take the first thing that sits on their lap when many pretty awesome girls were just trying to be nice and let a guy sit down and breath for one second.

slowpoke
06-15-2010, 07:52 PM
so when do you dance on the stage? I hate this. I think to myself, Why? So you can see me naked before you commit to a dance? I almost always just walk off once a guy asks this, in my experience it means he's cheap. Enlighten me people!

Could it be kind of like when you go to the grocery store and buy something in a can, there is usually a picture on the can showing you what is inside?

J.D.
06-16-2010, 12:08 AM
I got to be honest, becuase of this thread, I say this now if a dancer is giving me a bunch of SS and won't leave me alone.

Cool, because now when guys ask me this I respond with, "Oh, I will be up in VIP all night, I never go on stage.... I always end up there all night."

Djoser
06-16-2010, 01:55 AM
J.D., I understand your frustration, and in a lot of cases the guys really are being cheap morons. Sometimes, though, they are just trying to make polite conversation, and are genuinely curious as to how long it will be before you go up, for whatever reason. I've been in the business ten years, and sometimes I still ask this question on my nights off in other clubs, usually while we are waiting for the waitress to bring the drinks I ordered, asking how the night was going etc..

Hopper
06-16-2010, 03:49 AM
Omg yes I get that it wasn't about her boobs. Thanks for explaining what she was talking about though, I didn't read through my post well enough and didn't get how I came off sounding bitchy, but now I do.
I feel like the reason I called customers that go off with "those women" (meaning dancers that I feel like have some major flaws they are hiding) "idiots" was because I thought they didn't know, or just didn't wait for better quality. Not that they are idiots for liking someone that looks nothing like me. But you're both right, that maybe for those customers, that is actually what they like and not just a drunken mistake. I realize it takes all types and I've got to stop hating on chicks I personally think are nasty, but it is hard, esp when customers are doing it too. I mean, I never ever say anything bad about a girl to a customer, I just respond with "I guess she makes money though."

But also btw, there's nothing about not being "picked." It wouldn't matter if I had big tits or not because I'm not gonna break my ankle racing a vulture to a customer. That's really where my beef comes from, its not about boobs to me. If it comes down to being picked, I'm not worried, and if a customer did pick a girl that I consider not attractive, good for her, that was his choice. I just get upset when guys take the first thing that sits on their lap when many pretty awesome girls were just trying to be nice and let a guy sit

I've seen this kind of customer too. I sympathise with you about being passed up just because these vultures get there first because you have the class to let the customer sit for a few minutes after arriving. It's unfair on the more attractive strippers when customers take the first stripper that approaches them.

My own standard of what a stripper should be like does exclude girls with "guts" or flabby asses and other such physical shortcomings. I mean, those things can be fixed by a gym routine and avoiding junk food. Stripping is their vocation after all and they should maintain themselves accordingly. So what if some guys go for (or will settle for) fat asses or "guts" - it's a strip club.

My standard for strippers isn't to specific, though, because I find a variety of types of girl attractive and I would be missing out if strippers were restricted to the standard "supermodel" type, which I don't particularly like.

rickdugan
06-16-2010, 07:53 AM
I never ask a question like that but can understand it.

I too am a shopper. However I am paying someone (tipping for her time, dances, VIP, etc.) there are certain things I'm looking for, including a certain look, attitude, etc. I work long and stressful days and when I go out to a club my time and energy are valuable to me.

I would rather drink and watch the scenery than get caught up with a girl who I find boring or who has a bad attitude. It is not my job to support every burnt out and bitter stripper in the club - it is her job to come to me with the right attitude. When I commit to something it is because I think that I am going to enjoy my time with her.

Last night is a good example. I ended up in a club in the middle of cow country that had all of about six broke ass locals sitting there for the entire night. My first choice was with the only other guy who looked like he might have two dimes to rub together, but a second girl kept circling back and had a great attitude. She was not the hottest girl in the place but she was fun.

She made my night more fun, and in turn I made her night.

ilbbaicnl
07-10-2010, 05:46 PM
In at least one of the RI clubs the dance rotation is fixed. If I want to do a dance with you, I need to work around your stage schedule. I've had bouncers come back to lapdance land & drag the dancer I'm with out to the stage.

I know what you mean, I hate it when they call the dancer who is giving you a lap dance to go stage dance.

shasta
07-10-2010, 06:49 PM
If only guys got horny for abs...

Around here they get mega horny for abs! Thank goodness!