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Pretty_Penny
11-03-2009, 07:10 PM
AND ONE LAST THING :P

if I -were- ever to fuck a customer, I PROMISE you it would be one of those ones many of you think are "pathetic losers". In fact, I wouldn't doubt that those guys probably pick up girls OTC a lot easier than you think. Maybe it's part of their game, but whatever.

Everyman
11-03-2009, 08:10 PM
^^^Yeah, I don't think it went over too well when you said it was "pathetic" for a customer to spend a good amount of money while still treating us with respect.

I don't think it's pathetic for you, just for the customer. I'm looking at it from a psychological vantage point I don't think you can appreciate from your money-earning position.

It's really not a criticism of dancers. It's not even a criticism of customers. It's just a psychological explanation for behavior.

Everybody gets their panties (err....thongs) in such a bunch rather than just engaging in conversation.

nicole84
11-03-2009, 08:13 PM
Somehow I dont see the guys who get how the game is played and respect both the rules and the dancers, are the pathetic ones.

Plus, I seriously think this whole thread has been over-analyzed...it was just a question, not meant to turn into a psychoanalysis of different types of customers.

Quite honestly, what I see as pathetic, are guys who seem to have nothing better to do than post on here.

Everyman
11-03-2009, 08:28 PM
Somehow I dont see the guys who get how the game is played and respect both the rules and the dancers, are the pathetic ones.


Because it's not what they're doing, it's whyyyyyyyy they're doing it; for the approval and affirmation of a young stranger.



Quite honestly, what I see as pathetic, are guys who seem to have nothing better to do than post on here.

No argument here. The least pathetic guys of all are those who never go to strip clubs, and have never heard of this site.

nicole84
11-03-2009, 08:37 PM
Hmmm...if doing something because you want approval of a stranger is pathetic, then about 80% of this country is pathetic.

Most people look to some sort of outside force/source for approval of some sort. Be it our boss, our teacher, our friends, our spouse, etc. you get the point.

lestat1
11-03-2009, 09:12 PM
Y'know once a guy accepts being a complete and total loser, they'd be surprised how simple questions like these and life in general become. And just how ineffective most counter-arguments become. So give being a loser a try!

The More You Know. :D

KiwiStrawberry Splenda
11-03-2009, 09:12 PM
Not I take all you can get. I find the dancers do gang up on the PLs that think with their big head.

It might just be because I'm stoned, but your statement makes no sense to me. Is it the grammer?

Earl_the_Pearl
11-03-2009, 09:26 PM
Y'know once a guy accepts being a complete and total loser, they'd be surprised how simple questions like these and life in general become. And just how ineffective most counter-arguments become. So give being a loser a try!

The More You Know. :D
I wallow in my PL status but homey will not give it away. If you want it you will need lawyers, guns and money. The sad part is it may be my money that is used.

Earl_the_Pearl
11-03-2009, 09:44 PM
It might just be because I'm stoned, but your statement makes no sense to me. Is it the grammer?
I added a comma to my statement. Isn't it marvelous that a computer that makes crunching numbers a breeze has brought back writing with all of its nuances. I was never a word smith but have improved greatly, especially with the spelling/grammar trolls keeping watch.

You said

I know you aren't Golden_Rule, but you boys tend to gang up with him in telling strippers how evil and immoral we are for taking men's money.
I accept dancers will take all they can get by any means necessary. The dancers on this board do not like PLs and really do not like PLs that know you don't really care for us and don't try to buy your love.

yoda57us
11-03-2009, 09:54 PM
Everybody gets their panties (err....thongs) in such a bunch rather than just engaging in conversation.

Or maybe, just maybe, "everybody" thinks that your continuous attempts at standing on the balcony, observing, analyzing and criticizing are just not that interesting. We are customers and dancers who come to a site about strip clubs to talk about dancers, customers and strip clubs.

just sayin....

J.D.
11-03-2009, 10:23 PM
^^^^ It totally gets annoying. We don't need Everyman AKA Dr. Freud leaning over our shoulders giving us his two cents about how pathetic strip club patrons are, when he is the MOST pathetic one of all. It must be nice up on that high horse. I mean really? Does it get any more pathetic than having to criticize the nice/respectful guys on an internet forum? He must have been made fun of really badly in high school or something.

Pretty_Penny
11-03-2009, 11:15 PM
Because it's not what they're doing, it's whyyyyyyyy they're doing it; for the approval and affirmation of a young stranger.


How can you speak for all of these customers? I don't think everyone who behaves that way is doing so because they "need approval".

and actually, almost everyone does pretty much everything for approval on some level when you really break it down, so what does it matter?

chris91
11-04-2009, 12:03 AM
I don't think it's pathetic for you, just for the customer. I'm looking at it from a psychological vantage point I don't think you can appreciate from your money-earning position.

It's really not a criticism of dancers. It's not even a criticism of customers. It's just a psychological explanation for behavior.

Everybody gets their panties (err....thongs) in such a bunch rather than just engaging in conversation.

I'm pretty sure that calling people pathetic is a criticism any way you look at it.

I reject the idea that these kinds of men are only respectful because they have a deep psychological need for the approval of a younger woman. A confident man enjoys the company of a woman not because she approves of him, but because he approves of her.

Also, this may be hard to believe, but not every breathing male wants to engage in extras with a woman they just met. Some guys paid attention in health class, and would prefer to not get the herps. Some guys have wives that they don't cheat on, whether it's paid for or not. Some guys don't grope because their mothers taught them manners. It's called being a gentlemen, and there is nothing pathetic about that.

Golden_Rule
11-04-2009, 12:03 AM
It's been asked before and I've answered before, but in short:

-Knows exactly what type of "relationship" we have and is honestly fine with that.
-Does not expect any "extras"
-Is respectful, not just physically, but in conversation as well
-Is CLEAN
-Enjoys conversation and is good at conversation
-Comes into the club with a happy, fun attitude
-Is relaxed and easy going. No head games, no bullshit.

and of course....... he spends a lot of money. I mean, obviously.

I've been fired upon here a few times [not as often as one might think though - which is a good thing] for being honest about occasionally dallying in extras extremely picky about who touches me past a certain point - as any practical person, male or female, ought to be] but the above is very close to my way of dealing with strip-clubs.

Enter with zero expectations other than the desire to either relax and observe the passion play unfold before me or or become one of its actors. Either way the attitude is: I'm a happy guy just wanting to remain so and no head games either way, thank you very much.

What I'd tell guys is that funny as it may sound that is precisely the formula for allowing anything that might happen room to do just that; happen.

Don't push agendas. Don't try to make something transpire. Just relax, have fun, and enjoy however the chips stack themselves that day.

That is, when they are at their best, what is great about S-Cs. You don't have to be anything other than there and open to the idea of having a good time.

Golden_Rule
11-04-2009, 12:23 AM
A guy like that can get that with women in the real world. Why would he go to SC?

When I get the same as Penny wants from the other side, Earl, it works out fine no matter how it resolved itself when it finishes. That's because there is a flip-side to Penny's favorite customer.

-She knows exactly what kind of "relationship" we have and is honestly fine with that.
-Doesn't generally give extras, in fact may never give extras, but doesn't project an air of "extras are dirty and if you ever want them you are dirty too". She understands that if a women is truly sexy men are going to feel desire and want sex. That doesn't mean it has to happen, but the desire is normal and natural and NOT dirty.
-Is respectful, not just of my physical self but of me as a person in general.
-Is CLEAN
-Enjoys conversation and is good at it.
-Comes into the club with a happy, fun, attitude
-Is relaxed and easy going. No head games. No bullshit.

and of course expects reasonable remuneration for her time and efforts but respects that my money is mine and I decide how to dole it out [which makes it fun to give more than might be customary].

I only want from a dancer the same things I'm willing to give.



The Ideal customer is a

PL


I don't know about that, Earl, as the average true PL is a rather needy fellow and needy people want a lot.

I'd think that would make them less than ideal customers.

Golden_Rule
11-04-2009, 12:28 AM
Actually, PL's are known for being difficult, needy, and time consuming.

OMG, we agree on something. ;D

[Quick, everyone, go get a lottery ticket] }:D

Earl_the_Pearl
11-04-2009, 12:28 AM
I only want from a dancer the same things I'm willing to give.

Homey will not pay a women $500 and hour to talk; hell a therapist only gets $225. Homey can go to AA and talk to women with low self esteem for free.

Golden_Rule
11-04-2009, 12:36 AM
I like a generous, gentleman. Who wont make me feel dirty, cheap, & uncomfortable.

Another perfect post to demonstrate dancers and customers aren't that different.

That is precisely another way to say what I, and customers like myself, want from dancers.

I like a generous dancer. Who wont make me feel dirty, cheap, & uncomfortable. I wont tolerate shit. I rather go home then to put up with BS. No thanks.

None of us, dancers or customers, should have to. I wont tolerate shit and respect that anyone else in the club wouldn't want to either. I rather go home then to put up with BS to have some fun [which isn't likely to happen in an atmosphere where tons of BS are being thrown about anyway].

We are all just folks... guy folks, gal folks, but still folks. Not that much different when push comes to shove.

Golden_Rule
11-04-2009, 12:42 AM
Homey will not pay a women $500 and hour to talk; hell a therapist only gets $225. Homey can go to AA and talk to women with low self esteem for free.

I shouldn't laugh but that was funny.

You don't have to, Earl. I wouldn't generally either. If someone else wants to though I might ask them what motivates them, because I would be legitimately curious about the behavior and want to understand it, but it shouldn't be taken to mean I don't think they shouldn't do precisely what they want with what is theirs.

That was the error being made by some people in another thread here... thinking that I thought people should care enough about each other to have each others back meant the same thing as saying I don't think they ought to be able to do what they want with what is theirs. Not at all the same thing. But let's not go down that road again...

PS: Sorry, seems KSS' post has left me reason to have to defend myself again so I guess we will go down that road again... at least for a bit.

Golden_Rule
11-04-2009, 12:57 AM
WHAT THE FUCKING HELL!!!???!!!

I know you aren't Golden_Rule, but you boys tend to gang up with him in telling strippers how evil and immoral we are for taking men's money.

I have never once said that a dancer is evil or immoral for taking a man's money.

I WANT dancers to take my money. I wouldn't plan on entering a club unless I planned on spending it. That's the thing of it though. I want to spend, not give; spend. That means I get something back for what I give. Quid pro quo. Since my expectations are small I don't want much. Just to be entertained in some way. When I contract for said entertainment I leave the way I am to be entertained totally up to the dancer. I become just an appreciative audience. I spend commensurate with the going rates and add a tip on top of it equal to my perception of the quality of the entertainment I received. Seems pretty fair to me.

And because I am willing to have a dancer's back if she seems past the point where she is making rational decisions, I'd like her to do the same for me if under similar circumstances the other way round.

No one seems to get all I have ever been driving at are the extremes ON BOTH SIDES that trickle down and effect the majority in negative ways, causing the very things everyone who bitches on here - customers and dancers alike - complain about.

I suggest a way those extremes on both sides can be dealt with and made to feel out of place so mostly the good stuff is left and I get jumped on.

All it does is leave me wondering why that would be the case?

I guess some people like the shittier aspects of the clubs and prefer they stay that way.

chris91
11-04-2009, 02:45 AM
^^Are you sure you don't want to go down that road again? Cause it kind of seems like you do.

the auditor
11-04-2009, 03:18 AM
I' m sorry but this thread is just to meaty to pass up. My goal here isn't to piss anyone off or to belittle anyone either.

1) You're strippers.. you're there to be leared at and in exchange for getting leared at you deserve to be paid for it.
2) This business is probally the second oldest profession.
3) It takes an enormous amount of GUTS to stand and dance in front of people that are almost always thinking about what you are like in bed, or what you look like smeared in peanut butter.

Are there nice and generous guys out here .....of there are, weather or not they're PL is another story remember they might be thinking the same thing about you.

Both my wife and I enjoy going to the clubs together and we are always generous tippers and respectful patrons, We really try to treat others the way we want to be treated.

In short Ladies keep looking for the nice ones were out there as alot of you know already. It always amazes me how some can be so money hungry and others can be such a joy to sit and talk to, it's dirty on both sides of the aisle.
Keep up the good work. :D

bem401
11-04-2009, 06:26 AM
^^^ so basically your complain is that you don't like the question? No one specified how frequent the encounters with the "ideal" customer had to besides "someone you are likely to encounter on any given night." They may not be happening all the time, but the ones she mentioned do happen, and aren't exactly 1 in a million.

I stand corrected. I was thinking more along the lines of regulars. I wasn't thinking of the occasional visitor who comes in, drops a bundle, and disappears never (or seldom) to be seen again.

You're right, I think its an inane question. I thought the OP was looking for advice on how he ought to behave. I don't ever recall a dancer asking what she can do to be the "ideal" dancer.

Everyman
11-04-2009, 06:42 AM
Or maybe, just maybe, "everybody" thinks that your continuous attempts at standing on the balcony, observing, analyzing and criticizing are just not that interesting. We are customers and dancers who come to a site about strip clubs to talk about dancers, customers and strip clubs.

just sayin....

Hm. Perhaps you have a point.

*thinking* *thinking* *thinking*

Nah, I think everyone is just too sensitive and can't take a little critical analysis.

Everyman
11-04-2009, 06:42 AM
Homey will not pay a women $500 and hour to talk; hell a therapist only gets $225. Homey can go to AA and talk to women with low self esteem for free.

lolololololololol

bem401
11-04-2009, 06:54 AM
I meet plenty of guys like this. In fact, I make most of my money from this exact kind of guy. That you think customers who don't grope, tip well, and pay us for our time are some kind of dreamland fantasy says a lot about what kind of customer you are.

Actually, when I was a customer, I fit most of the criteria, sans the throwing around of Benjamins and paying for conversation. I tipped well, didn't look for extras or grope, and was respectful. Had I been the type of customer you are insinuating I might be, I doubt these dancers would have become even friendlier with me once I ceased being their customer.

mediocrity
11-04-2009, 01:54 PM
I' m sorry but this thread is just to meaty to pass up. My goal here isn't to piss anyone off or to belittle anyone either.

1) You're strippers.. you're there to be leared at and in exchange for getting leared at you deserve to be paid for it.
2) This business is probally the second oldest profession.
3) It takes an enormous amount of GUTS to stand and dance in front of people that are almost always thinking about what you are like in bed, or what you look like smeared in peanut butter.

Are there nice and generous guys out here .....of there are, weather or not they're PL is another story remember they might be thinking the same thing about you.

Both my wife and I enjoy going to the clubs together and we are always generous tippers and respectful patrons, We really try to treat others the way we want to be treated.

In short Ladies keep looking for the nice ones were out there as alot of you know already. It always amazes me how some can be so money hungry and others can be such a joy to sit and talk to, it's dirty on both sides of the aisle.
Keep up the good work. :D

OH MY SWEET JESUS. Someone who gets it!

It also bothers me when people say strippers "take" people's money. When your civilian job cuts you a paycheck, or when a waitress recieves a tip, is that "taking" money? No. It's is being PAID.

bem401
11-04-2009, 03:36 PM
I like a customer who offers me a drink right off the bat (shows he's thoughtful), doesn't expect to much chit chat, is polite, doesn't ask personal questions, buys dances, follows the rules, and tips me decently on stage. That pretty much covers it.

No one could argue with this, and it isn't unreasonable for you to expect this type of behavior though i know you probably see less of it than you'd like.

chris91
11-04-2009, 03:54 PM
Actually, when I was a customer, I fit most of the criteria, sans the throwing around of Benjamins and paying for conversation. I tipped well, didn't look for extras or grope, and was respectful. Had I been the type of customer you are insinuating I might be, I doubt these dancers would have become even friendlier with me once I ceased being their customer.

Sooo, you find it hilariously outrageous that there could be lots of guys who are as respectful as you, but spend more money than you?

yoda57us
11-04-2009, 04:04 PM
You're right, I think its an inane question. I thought the OP was looking for advice on how he ought to behave. I don't ever recall a dancer asking what she can do to be the "ideal" dancer.

Agreed. Advice or maybe even a glimmer of hope that a guy who doesn't spend tons of cash can be a popular customer based on other factors-like being a nice guy.

yoda57us
11-04-2009, 04:08 PM
Hm. Perhaps you have a point.

*thinking* *thinking* *thinking*

Nah, I think everyone is just too sensitive and can't take a little critical analysis.

Or we just plain don't give a damn about what you are trying to criticize or analyze...

bem401
11-04-2009, 04:47 PM
Sooo, you find it hilariously outrageous that there could be lots of guys who are as respectful as you, but spend more money than you?

That's not what I said. There are just not many customers around here who meet your criteria. I met some of your criteria when I was an active customer, but I am no longer seen as a customer by any of the girls I am friendly with. Nowadays I am not even an active customer. I think my friends would view any dance requests by me as a sign of disrespect. As a result, it isn't very hard to spend more than I do.

chris91
11-04-2009, 05:36 PM
^^Whatever, there's plenty of dudes like that around here. Maybe I'm spoiled, but I don't think that expecting dudes to be polite and pay me for my time is all that funny. It's certainly not so unreasonable that you could compare it to expecting them to look like brad pitt.

bem401
11-04-2009, 05:46 PM
^^Whatever, there's plenty of dudes like that around here. Maybe I'm spoiled, but I don't think that expecting dudes to be polite and pay me for my time is all that funny. It's certainly not so unreasonable that you could compare it to expecting them to look like brad pitt.

You did say a little more than be polite and spend money. You mentioned hundreds and no groping or drama. I was reacting to the whole comment. I did not mean to offend but see little evidence of customers who meet all your criteria, which is not to say they don't exist. They just don't exist in large numbers from what i can tell and what I've been told. And like Yoda and I agreed ( make note of that, boys), my experience is localized. If you have lots of guys like that wherever you are, just be grateful ( or send them this way for my friends' benefits).

KiwiStrawberry Splenda
11-04-2009, 07:07 PM
Since you don't spend any money, then ANY respectful customer is going to be better than you. And I don't count food or drinks as spending.

Cyril
11-04-2009, 08:19 PM
Homey will not pay a women $500 and hour to talk; hell a therapist only gets $225. Homey can go to AA and talk to women with low self esteem for free.

There is a girl who works at the front of my hotel's gym; she is astonishingly beautiful. Yesterday after an intensive work out, as I was walking out of the gym, I decided I must talk to her. I am married so pickup was not the intention on my part. I just wanted to talk to her. So, I turned towards her. She was looking down, smiling. Then, she looked up. Our eyes locked. We stood there smiling at each other for few seconds. None of us said anything.

Then, I asked. "How do you do?" (I know, no one uses that line anymore.)

She said. "Fine. And, you?"

I said. "I am quite well. Thanks for asking!"

Her sweetness was radiating. I felt very comfortable talking to her. She asked me where I was from, what I did, etc. We talked for half an hour. And, it did not cost me a dime.

She breaks the scale calibrated at 1-10.

Earl_the_Pearl
11-04-2009, 08:41 PM
Since you don't spend any money, then ANY respectful customer is going to be better than you. And I don't count food or drinks as spending.
How about a shopping trip where I drive and sit and wait for hours while you try on cloths and ask how does this look? BTW this is not at Sears or Wal*Mart. I love the looks I get from the sales girls. Do you?

I also wait while you try on makeup and ask how does this look. I say fine as I can only think of the night of unbridled passion that is to come.

That is what friends are for.

Earl_the_Pearl
11-04-2009, 08:52 PM
So, I turned towards her. She was looking down, smiling.
Cyril you are in like Flint. When a women looks down when in the presents of a man she is deferring to him. She knows you are a manly man and she is the weaker vessel. She wants your vital essence to make her children. :highfive:

Cyril
11-04-2009, 08:59 PM
Cyril you are in like Flint. When a women looks down when in the presents of a man she is deferring to him. She knows you are a manly man and she is the weaker vessel. She wants your vital essence to make her children. :highfive:

I did not know that. Your deduction however is quite plausible.

Dirty Ernie
11-04-2009, 10:20 PM
Awww...Cyril and Earl, the new Harold and Kumar. You boys should plan a road trip. Let Cyril drive the 'stang and loan him a magnum.

chris91
11-04-2009, 10:20 PM
You did say a little more than be polite and spend money. You mentioned hundreds and no groping or drama. I was reacting to the whole comment. I did not mean to offend but see little evidence of customers who meet all your criteria, which is not to say they don't exist. They just don't exist in large numbers from what i can tell and what I've been told. And like Yoda and I agreed ( make note of that, boys), my experience is localized. If you have lots of guys like that wherever you are, just be grateful ( or send them this way for my friends' benefits).


Actually, I didn't say anything. Firemaiden04 made the original post. I just happen to agree with her and think that all the things she listed can be boiled down to spending money and being polite.

You don't see evidence of them because you're not a stripper. I figure I've met, at the very least, 15,000 customers in my years as a dancer over 4 different states. That's evidence. I don't know where you are, but there could be tons of these guys there, and you would never know it.

Also, I don't think you did mean to offend, but when you scoff at the idea of someone paying us for our time and conversation, it does come off a little insulting. Like we couldn't possibly have any value beyond ass groping.

blaze_n_hot
11-04-2009, 10:56 PM
How about a shopping trip where I drive and sit and wait for hours while you try on cloths and ask how does this look? BTW this is not at Sears or Wal*Mart. I love the looks I get from the sales girls. Do you?

I also wait while you try on makeup and ask how does this look. I say fine as I can only think of the night of unbridled passion that is to come.

That is what friends are for.

That's just weird to me. I wouldn't let a customer take me on a shopping trip! I can afford to pay for my own shit.

I know a few dancers who socialize with custies outside the club and it doesn't make sense to me! Why would a hot young girl want to hang out with an old lech who isn't paying them? Usually those guys don't spend money in the club either, they expect us to hang out with them all night for free drinks.

The ideal custie isn't too drunk, comes up to me and asks for dances or a room, doesn't ask for extras or to see me outside the club. I like guys that are intelligent, well traveled and into music. They're fun to talk to.

Elvia
11-04-2009, 11:33 PM
I did not know that. Your deduction however is quite plausible.

I love how the most unappealing guys are always so quick to believe the most crap advice. It works out so well, doesn't it? Kinda makes you feel like maybe the universe really is looking out for all of us :hug:

Earl_the_Pearl
11-04-2009, 11:36 PM
Awww...Cyril and Earl, the new Harold and Kumar. You boys should plan a road trip. Let Cyril drive the 'stang and loan him a magnum.
I must ask if he can drive a stick. I have found most young people don’t know what the third pedal is for. My youngest son was an all star in his league. Yet when I gave him a wooden bat, my favorite wooden bat, he hit with the label facing forward. Cracked. When Yogi was first learning to hit he was told he should be able to read the label. He said he was not up there to read but to hit. I will not explain this to those that don’t know; I grow wearry.

Earl_the_Pearl
11-04-2009, 11:43 PM
That's just weird to me. I wouldn't let a customer take me on a shopping trip! I can afford to pay for my own shit.

I know a few dancers who socialize with custies outside the club and it doesn't make sense to me! Why would a hot young girl want to hang out with an old lech who isn't paying them? Usually those guys don't spend money in the club either, they expect us to hang out with them all night for free drinks.

The ideal custie isn't too drunk, comes up to me and asks for dances or a room, doesn't ask for extras or to see me outside the club. I like guys that are intelligent, well traveled and into music. They're fun to talk to.
You don't know me. Those that know me contact me. If they do what they have to do why do why do you have a problem. You will never know me so let it go.

Earl_the_Pearl
11-04-2009, 11:47 PM
I love how the most unappealing guys are always so quick to believe the most crap advice. It works out so well, doesn't it? Kinda makes you feel like maybe the universe really is looking out for all of us :hug:
Perhaps that is why I have three, that I know of, children that are the symbol of America.

WiseGuy_TX
11-05-2009, 05:25 AM
There is a girl who works at the front of my hotel's gym; she is astonishingly beautiful. Yesterday after an intensive work out, as I was walking out of the gym, I decided I must talk to her. I am married so pickup was not the intention on my part. I just wanted to talk to her. So, I turned towards her. She was looking down, smiling. Then, she looked up. Our eyes locked. We stood there smiling at each other for few seconds. None of us said anything.

Then, I asked. "How do you do?" (I know, no one uses that line anymore.)

She said. "Fine. And, you?"

I said. "I am quite well. Thanks for asking!"

Her sweetness was radiating. I felt very comfortable talking to her. She asked me where I was from, what I did, etc. We talked for half an hour. And, it did not cost me a dime.

She breaks the scale calibrated at 1-10....Cyril, the imaginary befriender of strippers, the desperate for attention adulter? Mrs. Cyril should be the only 10 in your life but, alas, her heart has been broken once again.
"Mat 5:28, But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart."


I did not know that. Your deduction however is quite plausible....i love the way Earl is lulling Cyril into submission. You go Earl!

bem401
11-05-2009, 06:31 AM
Actually, I didn't say anything. Firemaiden04 made the original post. I just happen to agree with her and think that all the things she listed can be boiled down to spending money and being polite.

You don't see evidence of them because you're not a stripper. I figure I've met, at the very least, 15,000 customers in my years as a dancer over 4 different states. That's evidence. I don't know where you are, but there could be tons of these guys there, and you would never know it.

Also, I don't think you did mean to offend, but when you scoff at the idea of someone paying us for our time and conversation, it does come off a little insulting. Like we couldn't possibly have any value beyond ass groping.

My mistake. I thought the post was yours. Don't take my scoffing at the idea of paying for conversation as necessarily being directed at strippers. I just fail to see the need to pay anyone for company. If you can get someone to do this, more power to you, but let me ask this : under what scenario can you see yourself paying someone to hang out with you? My dancer friends have all indicated to me that while they're happy to have guys do this, they would never want to hang around with someone who would only spend time with them if they were being paid.

bem401
11-05-2009, 06:35 AM
Since you don't spend any money, then ANY respectful customer is going to be better than you.

As I have stated before, this is exactly the understanding I have with my friends when I'm in the club so I don't get what your point is other than to try to antagonize.

Pretty_Penny
11-05-2009, 08:50 AM
Agreed. Advice or maybe even a glimmer of hope that a guy who doesn't spend tons of cash can be a popular customer based on other factors-like being a nice guy.

FTR, there's a difference between spending "tons of cash" and spending an appropriate amount. I'm sure most of us have customers we enjoy spending time with who spend an average, but acceptable amount of money. One of my favorite regulars usually only spends 40-60 on me every time he comes in (which is 2 or 3 times a week). But, he's only there about an hour each time and he's really fun to talk to, respectful, etc. I look forward to seeing him.

Of course, he also understands that if I'm sitting with someone who spends a lot more, I'm not leaving to go sit with him. I will still come say hi for a minute, but there are just times when I can't "afford" to leave another customer. He totally understands that and has never acted like an ass about it.

Now, there are also some "nice guys/ bar regulars" who come in and sit for hours, spending very little to nothing on the girls (I'm talking less than 20 bucks total). I don't sit with them, but I know there are girls who do... usually for drinks. I do not look forward to seeing those customers because I'd rather have money than drinks.. and no matter how "nice" you are, I'm still doing a job, and expecting me to do it for free is rude. Period.