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Cyril
11-08-2009, 07:55 PM
^ I believe most of us are quite functional and agree it is a reasonable business model. The customers pay for services rendered, the dancers provide said services for an agreed upon dollar amount, and the support staff folks do their jobs for a pay check as well. It is free enterprise. Why that is such a mystery to you is a mystery to me.

FBR

I have no disagreement with you.

Money is just one aspect of it. But money is not often enough of a motivation for most of us to do the things we consider taboo. The nature of the business where a man gets cuts from a woman working as a sex worker is a taboo. So, I am trying to understand how do these men (the male employees) attain the comfort level? How do they rationalize it?

Once gain, I am not trying to be judgmental. I am just carrying out a discussion in a least controversial way that I can think of.

Cyril
11-08-2009, 08:01 PM
why are there 2 pages of response to a thread started by cyril?? seriously does anyone think there's any point in answering any of his questions?

Did you even read the original post?

If not then it is the biggest tragedy of this century because this thread aims to discuss ways to protect the interests of strippers. It is quite understandable if one is not capable of fighting her own battle but it is entirely sad if she cannot support the ones who are fighting on her behalf.

Do you understand?

Elvia
11-08-2009, 08:03 PM
Did you even read the original post?

If not then it is the biggest tragedy of this century.

:rotfl:


Greatest tragedy of this century!!!

Worse than 9/11!!!

What have you done laurocon?!! What have you done!

KiwiStrawberry Splenda
11-08-2009, 08:08 PM
The point here is not individual DJs but the nature of a profession which relies on taking cuts from women who have to take their clothes off for money. How do these men rationalize what they do? Majority of men that I know will have problem with taking cuts from a woman who made her buck in a very vulnerable condition - hustling nude.


I've never thought of myself in a vulnerable position as a stripper. You need to see the shoes strippers wear. We could stab a bitch with those lucite monstrosities. Besides, the hustling isn't really done nude, one tends to be dressed walking the floor. I guess hustling from the stage could count. However, men tend to get extremely weak when they are inches away from my boobs, butt, or pussy. Their eyes glaze over and drool accumulates around the mouth. They wobble. I could then easily take them out with aforementioned stiletto. Now who's vulnerable? :P

I've generally gotten along very well with all of my DJ's, bouncers, floormen, managers, etc. Any club that had an extortion-type system of tipping was a club I only passed through, and did not stay at long enough for it to really bug me. Of course I would prefer to keep all of my money. However, having a good relationship with these people, and tipping them well, benefits me financially, through the reciprocity of exceptional service.

Pretty_Penny
11-08-2009, 08:15 PM
Well, I only tip people because I feel like they deserve it. Tip outs are not mandatory to anyone at my club. I always tip the DJ and my current Manager, but that has not always been the case. I had one worthless Manager who I never tipped and there was a DJ I rarely tipped in the past as well. I only tip floormen/bouncers if they are watching a VIP room for me, if they suggest me to a customer, or if they do a food run (we're allowed to send them for food if enough of us want it). That being said, when I do tip (which is every day to most people I tip) I tip well.

KiwiStrawberry Splenda
11-08-2009, 08:15 PM
I mean, you wouldn't want to let reality get in the way of your little strip club theater of the absurd that you have created in your own mind...

Haha, I can hear the circus music in your head. I think Cyril and Earl should open up an SC together. :D

Cyril
11-08-2009, 08:18 PM
Well, I only tip people because I feel like they deserve it. Tip outs are not mandatory to anyone at my club. I always tip the DJ and my current Manager, but that has not always been the case. I had one worthless Manager who I never tipped and there was a DJ I rarely tipped in the past as well. I only tip floormen/bouncers if they are watching a VIP room for me, if they suggest me to a customer, or if they do a food run (we're allowed to send them for food if enough of us want it). That being said, when I do tip (which is every day to most people I tip) I tip well.

That is the way tip outs should be - voluntary. Any mandatory tip outs in my opinion is exploitation of strippers by power brokers (DJs, bouncers, etc.) at strip clubs.

KiwiStrawberry Splenda
11-08-2009, 08:19 PM
The door girl is an employee of the club so is the manager. Then why are we discriminating against the door girl? Why is she not getting tip outs? Is it because she is a woman, therefore she becomes a non power broker entity inside a strip club by default?

Capitalism works within a framework of law and order. What you described is not capitalism; it is called anarchism.

Its just club culture. Most custies tip her upon entering or leaving. I tend to occasionally tip the door girl as well, like when she has had to cash out a bunch of my funny money, etc. Nothing to do with her being a woman, some clubs have male doorpeople. The club mediocrity is discussing tends to have women. Sometimes they are ex-dancers who are pregnant, or the spouse of one of the male employees. Its a pretty basic cashier job.

Cyril
11-08-2009, 08:19 PM
Haha, I can hear the circus music in your head. I think Cyril and Earl should open up an SC together. :D

One day when I get fed up with my professional life, I might just do that, start a strip club. And, I can think of no better partner than Earl.

Cyril
11-08-2009, 08:21 PM
Its just club culture. Most custies tip her upon entering or leaving. I tend to occasionally tip the door girl as well, like when she has had to cash out a bunch of my funny money, etc. Nothing to do with her being a woman, some clubs have male doorpeople. The club mediocrity is discussing tends to have women. Sometimes they are ex-dancers who are pregnant, or the spouse of one of the male employees. Its a pretty basic cashier job.

What is a funny money?

KiwiStrawberry Splenda
11-08-2009, 08:22 PM
The objective of this post is to understand the psyche of male employees of strip clubs; the ones who make their living through tip outs. I was not aware that managers were getting tip outs as well. This only makes the matter worse as far as exploitation of women inside strip clubs is concerned.


This is not all clubs. In Texas, specifically, the floor men are referred to as managers, even though they are bouncers in a suit, who also do paperwork.

KiwiStrawberry Splenda
11-08-2009, 08:26 PM
If not then it is the biggest tragedy of this century because this thread aims to discuss ways to protect the interests of strippers. It is quite understandable if one is not capable of fighting her own battle but it is entirely sad if she cannot support the ones who are fighting on her behalf.

Do you understand?

Fight on for us oh soldja Cyril. Because club owners read your posts on the internet, and take appropriate action. What exactly are you doing to initiate change when you don't even know what funny money is?

Elvia
11-08-2009, 08:28 PM
It's so awesome when the completely ignorant try to fight your battles for you. And by "fight battles" I of course mean bitch about it on an on-line forum where everyone hates you.

KiwiStrawberry Splenda
11-08-2009, 08:29 PM
That is the way tip outs should be - voluntary. Any mandatory tip outs in my opinion is exploitation of strippers by power brokers (DJs, bouncers, etc.) at strip clubs.

I've worked in clubs with voluntary tip-outs, and even at a club where we were prohibited from tipping. However, club owners are savvy in ways to save a penny. Its a living, and often the financial gain makes the required tipping completely bearable.

Cyril
11-08-2009, 08:41 PM
Fight on for us oh soldja Cyril. Because club owners read your posts on the internet, and take appropriate action. What exactly are you doing to initiate change when you don't even know what funny money is?

I am late for the bed. So, this will be my last post tonight.

Knowledge is power. Awareness ignites revolution. First you ladies need to identify the enemy. Only then can you formulate the game plan to defeat the enemy. The enemy is the system, not the PL.

I do not know if you were here when we were discussing Project: Dream Girls but the idea of that thread was to build a model for an ideal strip club. You can never take an action unless you have a plan. And you can never formulate a plan unless you entertain ideas.

If we can work to come up with a plan for an ideal strip club then it becomes a possibility to find someone who wants invest in it and make it a reality.

We need to realize that current model is not working for anyone except for owners. But even there, we can improve upon things.

Pretty_Penny
11-08-2009, 08:43 PM
That is the way tip outs should be - voluntary. Any mandatory tip outs in my opinion is exploitation of strippers by power brokers (DJs, bouncers, etc.) at strip clubs.

Yes, but I'd like to point out that although tipping isnt mandatory at my club, it is very "recommended" and the girls who DO tip have it way easier than those who don't. Meaning the girls who tip generally get more slack when it comes to arriving late, leaving early, asking favors, dress code, whatever. So, while you aren't REQUIRED to tip, doing so surely makes a diff.

WiseGuy_TX
11-08-2009, 09:02 PM
I am late for the bed. So, this will be my last post tonight.

Knowledge is power. Awareness ignites revolution. First you ladies need to identify the enemy. Only then can you formulate the game plan to defeat the enemy. The enemy is the system, not the PL.

I do not know if you were here when we were discussing Project: Dream Girls but the idea of that thread was to build a model for an ideal strip club. You can never take an action unless you have a plan. And you can never formulate a plan unless you entertain ideas.

If we can work to come up with a plan for an ideal strip club then it becomes a possibility to find someone who wants invest in it and make it a reality.

We need to realize that current model is not working for anyone except for owners. But even there, we can improve upon things....we've been down this road before and it was proven illogical, imaginary and a failure. You have no experience or understanding for a reality discussion.

yoda57us
11-08-2009, 09:04 PM
The door girl is an employee of the club so is the manager. Then why are we discriminating against the door girl? Why is she not getting tip outs? Is it because she is a woman, therefore she becomes a non power broker entity inside a strip club by default?


The customers tip the door girl.

How do you feel about toilet trolls Cyril?

Johnny Wood
11-08-2009, 09:36 PM
Are you kidding me?!? Defender of the weak? Something unfortunate about strippers? You truly are delusional if you think that dancers are some poor weak exploited little girls that need defending! Most dancers are women that by choice or fate have found themselves working in an industry that allows them to make a great deal of money in short amounts of time. Most dancers exploit mens weakness for beautiful girls, most men are quite stupid when you put raw sexuality in thier face, they hand over thier money to show gratitude. Now as far as DJ's and managers being the oppresors this is just ridiculous, they are hired to play music, announce specials and manage the daily functions of a club. Strippers are not prostitutes! Male employees are not pimps! Everyone who works in a club is there of thier own free will, and if you think all club owners and mangers are male you are even dumber than I thought! Male employees do not feel guilt because they work in a strip club because there is nothing to feel guilty about, they provide needed services to dancers who are free to come and go as they please. This ridiculous image of the "ideal" strip club is assinine, the current model has been working in thousands of clubs for decades. Wake up and smell the bullshit that is pouring out of your mouth!

Gia2608
11-08-2009, 09:55 PM
A good dj and bouncer are hard to come by, the dj can affect (effect, rather) the atmospehere and the bouncer can save your ass (literally!)

I have said time and time again that men who work in a sc are either there to get paid or to get laid so take it as you will, but it's true!

mediocrity
11-08-2009, 10:36 PM
I love how you didnt respond to me saying prettier dancers deserve more money.

MM FTW!

LadyInWaiting
11-08-2009, 10:53 PM
Cyril, Ur a REAL dork, ya know that? You don't exactly know where any of us are coming from (DO YOU?) and really don't belong on this forum........when you get experience either dancing on stage and entertaining OR helping us out AND WORKING WITH US-, as a D.J or bouncer or manager does, then maybe you will have the intelligence to know that of which you speak about. ENOUGH SAID........

Dirty Ernie
11-08-2009, 11:19 PM
I'm fighting the urge to go back to the original post and hit the "Thanks" button for Cyril. Not for anything he has written here (or anywhere on SW for that matter), but he has managed to turn 2 lurkers into new members. And lately we need a little new blood around here.

Somebody stop me, please!! :D

Elvia
11-08-2009, 11:21 PM
I was just gonna say, notice how little time it takes him to piss off the newcomers.

Christyismyalias
11-08-2009, 11:29 PM
Do you hold them in a high esteem? Or, do you find it hard to respect them because of the manner they chose to make their living in?
The manner they chose to make their living? A job is a job. They work hard they get paid, end of discussion. People say this type of thing about dancers and I say the same thing. Why is a male in a SC any different than any other job. What's wrong with it?
I give respect to those who deserve it, regardless of their job.



What goes through your mind when you have to give your hard earned wrinkled dollars in the dark of a strip club’s parking lot to a DJ or a bouncer?
1- Most places tip out in a DJ booth or in the club, never ever in some shady parking lot scenario..
2- I made my money, and yes I worked hard for it, but without those male employees/the building itself I would not have had the opportunity to make that money. So I don't think anything when I tip them out, except that it is like a tax for my being able to use the club to get MY money.




I am curious about your thought. The reason for that is I would never feel comfortable making my living that way. I am not trying to judge anyone; the objective here is to understand the thought process, which rationalizes such professions. Therefore, it will be a good idea to hear from strippers, DJs, bouncers and alike.
You would never feel comfortable what? Coming into work, working hard, and getting paid for it?
I have never thought anything along these lines after working in this business 5 years, I've never felt the need to "rationalize such professions"... They work hard, I work hard, everyone works together and we all get paid.

And to add-- I never quite understand when the men on this site act like the people (male or female) in the business are doing something "wrong" and feel the need to rationalize everything... You are on a stripper support website on a frequent basis.. Look in the mirror before you start questioning/judging others.

Dirty Ernie
11-08-2009, 11:30 PM
The objective of this post is to understand the psyche of male employees of strip clubs; the ones who make their living through tip outs. I was not aware that managers were getting tip outs as well. This only makes the matter worse as far as exploitation of women inside strip clubs is concerned.

The setup in a strip club can be depicted as a group of powerful men (DJs, managers, bouncers, etc) engaged in exploitation of vulnerable women. I challenge you to dispel that notion. Please.


Cyril, I urge you to find a way to get to Vegas and spend a couple of nights at Spearmint Rhino. Try to find a vulnerable woman in that place. They will likely kick your ass and make you tip those exploitive men. And you will. Happily. We will have to start calling you Jeff.

Bob_Loblaw
11-08-2009, 11:52 PM
OT cont.- We still have a Sizzler. If you drive by at 4:00 pm you can tell what day it is by which Retirement Home bus is parked out front. LOL

Oh heck yeah!
http://www.sizzler.com/
I had just assumed (incorrectly) they had gone out of business as a whole when they closed up shop around here. It's been many years since I last patronized a Sizzler. Should I happen upon one in my future travels, would it be worth it to try it out again?

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/BobLoblaw61191946/th_bbq.gif



why are there 2 pages of response to a thread started by cyril?? seriously does anyone think there's any point in answering any of his questions?
Sorry, I was just really interested in the Sizzler talk.


The setup in a strip club can be depicted as a group of powerful men (DJs, managers, bouncers, etc) engaged in exploitation of vulnerable women. I challenge you to dispel that notion. Please.
Funny... IMO, if there's any group that's being exploited it's paying customers like me. And I'm quite comfortable with the arrangement.

MOP
11-08-2009, 11:58 PM
I say "none of ur fucking bees wax"

blaze_n_hot
11-09-2009, 01:44 AM
The point here is not individual DJs but the nature of a profession which relies on taking cuts from women who have to take their clothes off for money. How do these men rationalize what they do? Majority of men that I know will have problem with taking cuts from a woman who made her buck in a very vulnerable condition - hustling nude.

Men are conditioned to give money to women not take from them. This is what makes me curious about the psyche of these men who work as DJs and bouncers at strip clubs.


I don't HAVE to take my clothes off for money, I choose to!

I'm not a weak damsel in distress, and the male employees aren't ripping me off. The bouncers know which guys are spending money and they help me by directing me to the big spenders. Since I make an obscene amount of money I have no problem sharing the wealth. All the bouncers at my club know that if they get me a champagne room, they get an automatic $20 to $50 tip from me on top of whatever the customer tips them.

The right song will get the crowd excited and cause them to tip more. I'm very picky about my music! Since I'm kind of a pain in the ass, I tip the DJ for putting up with me and playing what I want.

I try to keep the staff happy because they help me make money. Plus I would feel like a selfish bitch if I had a good night and didn't take care of the fam!

Earl_the_Pearl
11-09-2009, 01:49 AM
Haha, I can hear the circus music in your head. I think Cyril and Earl should open up an SC together. :D
Sorry I don't have the Pimp mentality; I believe in the golder rule. I can't treat people like objects to be used and abused; especially attractive women.

jasmine22
11-09-2009, 01:53 AM
When did 15% become the minimum? I have been known to leave a nickel to show my displeasure; if I left nothing they would just think I don't tip. This is when I was with a woman of an ethnicity Denny's was known not to like as customers. I can live the rest of my life without ever entering a Denny's again.

15% of the before tax bill is and always has been fair. As prices raise so does the tip. A To Insure Promptness is not mandatory; if it were it would be included in the price of the meal.

That is one good thing about New Jersey one does not have to travail far to find a more friendly establishment.


You tipped the waitress a nickel?? wow im glad u live in new jersey and hope u dont visit the clubs im from lol! ur better off not tipping at all and complaining to management if she really was a bad waitress. And i believe a gentleman with class should tip 20%.

Earl_the_Pearl
11-09-2009, 01:54 AM
I've never thought of myself in a vulnerable position as a stripper. You need to see the shoes strippers wear. We could stab a bitch with those lucite monstrosities. Besides, the hustling isn't really done nude, one tends to be dressed walking the floor. I guess hustling from the stage could count. However, men tend to get extremely weak when they are inches away from my boobs, butt, or pussy. Their eyes glaze over and drool accumulates around the mouth. They wobble. I could then easily take them out with aforementioned stiletto. Now who's vulnerable? :P

I've generally gotten along very well with all of my DJ's, bouncers, floormen, managers, etc. Any club that had an extortion-type system of tipping was a club I only passed through, and did not stay at long enough for it to really bug me. Of course I would prefer to keep all of my money. However, having a good relationship with these people, and tipping them well, benefits me financially, through the reciprocity of exceptional service.
Now if all of you paid taxes I could respect what you do. But you do not so you are leeches. No biggie the US of A is stinko with leeches.

Correction; Now if all people paid taxes I could respect what they do. But they do not so they are leeched. No biggie the US of A is stinko with leeches.

I have no way of knowing what any one individual does or does not do.

jasmine22
11-09-2009, 01:56 AM
Ladies,

What do you think of male employees of your strip clubs? I am not talking about male bartenders, cooks and waiters. I am more specifically talking about male employees who make their living from the tip outs, e.g., DJs and bouncers.

Do you hold them in a high esteem? Or, do you find it hard to respect them because of the manner they chose to make their living in?

What goes through your mind when you have to give your hard earned wrinkled dollars in the dark of a strip club’s parking lot to a DJ or a bouncer?

I am curious about your thought. The reason for that is I would never feel comfortable making my living that way. I am not trying to judge anyone; the objective here is to understand the thought process, which rationalizes such professions. Therefore, it will be a good idea to hear from strippers, DJs, bouncers and alike.


Why would i not respect them when i work in the same enviroment?? And if the bouncers help me make $$$ and keep me safe i dont mind tipping them

Earl_the_Pearl
11-09-2009, 01:58 AM
The customers tip the door girl.

How do you feel about toilet trolls Cyril?
gone.

jasmine22
11-09-2009, 02:01 AM
Now if all of you paid taxes I could respect what you do. But you do not so you are leeches. No biggie the US of A is stinko with leeches.


OH OK you dont respect what we do but you will come into the club and support the business?? And you come on our forums and post negetive shit to get a reaction out of us? Earl, you really need to get a life and a fuckin clue.

Earl_the_Pearl
11-09-2009, 02:03 AM
You tipped the waitress a nickel?? wow im glad u live in new jersey and hope u dont visit the clubs im from lol! ur better off not tipping at all and complaining to management if she really was a bad waitress. And i believe a gentleman with class should tip 20%.
She did not like the color of my date. She got a nickle. I will not be extorted if they don't like it do something about it; please do try. I like to roll in the mud, the blood and the beer. It makes me feel alive.

jasmine22
11-09-2009, 02:03 AM
gone. (quote deleted from thread)

Earl_the_Pearl
11-09-2009, 02:04 AM
OH OK you dont respect what we do but you will come into the club and support the business?? And you come on our forums and post negetive shit to get a reaction out of us? Earl, you really need to get a life and a fuckin clue.

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Earl_the_Pearl
11-09-2009, 02:05 AM
your the kind of guy who would have to pay for that
Gladly if she does a good job; that is what women at SC are there for.

Earl_the_Pearl
11-09-2009, 02:08 AM
OH OK you dont respect what we do but you will come into the club and support the business?? And you come on our forums and post negetive shit to get a reaction out of us? Earl, you really need to get a life and a fuckin clue.
Many need to pay tax; I do. Then they want me to tip 20%; I will when they file a 1040.

Elvia
11-09-2009, 02:14 AM
Implying that all dancers are hookers, calling us "leeches,"

Ladies, if this seems as inappropriate, report that shit.

Earl_the_Pearl
11-09-2009, 02:27 AM
Implying that all dancers are hookers, calling us "leeches,"

Ladies, if this seems as inappropriate, report that shit.
I never said hookers. Leeches yes as many don't pay taxes. I pay taxes that support what theyt get for free. Did you notice men with half a brain don't post much. Enjoy your fantasy world now.

The grass withers and the flower fades.

blaze_n_hot
11-09-2009, 03:21 AM
I never said hookers. Leeches yes as you don't pay taxes. I pay taxes that support what you get for free. Did you notice men with half a brain don't post much. Enjoy your fantasy world now.

The grass withers and the flower fades.

I resent being called a leech. I get a 1099 and pay my taxes because the IRS scares me!

Earl_the_Pearl
11-09-2009, 03:38 AM
I resent being called a leech. I get a 1099 and pay my taxes because the IRS scares me!
If you get a 1099 you have nothing to resent. You are one in a thousand. In my small world of New Jersey a 1099 is an unknown form. A W2 is also an unknown form. It might be time for that to change. If the US of A taxes the underground economy the budget can be balanced.

Oh wait than all of the dancer jobs will be contracted to China. ::)

Correction; any worker that hides money from the IRS is a leech.

Elvia
11-09-2009, 04:23 AM
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Djoser
11-09-2009, 04:28 AM
So, they (strippers) are not seen as women. Interesting. That explains DJoser's post as well.

Yet another example of severe lack of reading comprehension. Nowhere in my post did I in any way imply that the dancers I work with were anything but women.

Maybe those stripclubs you went to way back in Cali featured transvestites?

;D


A good dj and bouncer are hard to come by, the dj can affect (effect, rather) the atmospehere and the bouncer can save your ass (literally!)

I have said time and time again that men who work in a sc are either there to get paid or to get laid so take it as you will, but it's true!

Actually 'affect' is perfectly legitimate.

Once again you hit the nail on the head with just a few choice words. Now that is what I call power...


Most dancers are women that by choice or fate have found themselves working in an industry that allows them to make a great deal of money in short amounts of time. Most dancers exploit mens weakness for beautiful girls, most men are quite stupid when you put raw sexuality in thier face, they hand over thier money to show gratitude. Now as far as DJ's and managers being the oppresors this is just ridiculous, they are hired to play music, announce specials and manage the daily functions of a club. Strippers are not prostitutes! Male employees are not pimps! Everyone who works in a club is there of thier own free will, and if you think all club owners and mangers are male you are even dumber than I thought!

Johnny Wood you are the bomb, already I like you. In only two posts you have demonstrated a great deal of wisdom in the ways of the clubs--and respect for the women of the industry.

But while Cyril generally demonstrates an amazing lack of understanding of the realities of the stripclubs, in this case he has unwittingly skirted the edge of an ugly reality. Fortunately that ugliness is rare, but it does exist.

Actually I have worked in clubs where prostitution was going on, either by arrangement after hours (thus indirectly), or in one case, blatantly--in that 75% of the dancers were dispensing BJs in private dances. In that club they were thus mostly prostitutes, and thus technically speaking I was a pimp. Generally speaking the pimps of the industry are the quasi-boyfriends and literal pimps who are often running dancers in a frightening number of even very nice clubs, though.


There is exploitation going on in a lot of cases, in a lot of clubs. Some male employees really are dicks who are either effectively leeches feeding financially off the dancers without giving much in return, or just there to get as much ass as they can. Or both. Then there's the grey area in between.

Of course not all male staff are perfect gentlemen who are always respectful and courteous to every dancer. Just as not all customers are perfect gentlemen, not all dancers are angelic creatures who would never take advantage of a vulnerable guy, etc., etc.

It's a very, very tough business. Only the strong survive, and the weak of whatever sex will generally find themselves being exploited to some extent. Not all strong people are compassionate, unfortunately. Though a man or woman of true power will refrain from such base activity, in my opinion.

For once Cyril has raised an interesting issue, which is why I have replied without wondering if it is just a big waste of time.

Djoser
11-09-2009, 05:13 AM
What is a funny money?

This is a relatively new development in the industry. Certain dollar bills in crisp, new, pristine condition are selected and sent to a high-tech offshore lab near Madagascar, where they are impregnated with a new chemical compound with nitrous oxide as the reactive agent. The bills are then distributed to the client stripclubs, at great expense.

The bartenders in these clubs are instructed to use these bills as change when extremely rich customers buy drinks. The powerful chemical compound is absorbed through the epidermis of these wealthy customers, and they start laughing and smiling a great deal more, thus staying in the club a lot longer and impulsively emptying their wallets, throwing money at every dancer, waitress, bartender, etc., in sight.

The staff, bartenders in particular, must imbibe the antidote to the compound before starting work, which is also extremely expensive. Otherwise all hell will break loose and bartenders will begin dispensing free drinks, staff will suddenly collapse in fits of euphoric hysteria, etc. One night we all forgot to do this. It was a lot of fun but several people went to the hospital, a couple were jailed, no one made any money, and the owner was pissed.

;D

laurcon
11-09-2009, 09:18 AM
If you get a 1099 you have nothing to resent. You are one in a thousand. In my small world of New Jersey a 1099 is an unknown form. A W2 is also an unknown form. It might be time for that to change. If the US of A taxes the underground economy the budget can be balanced.

Oh wait than all of the dancer jobs will be contracted to China. ::)

Correction; only SC employees that don't pay taxes are leeches.

most of the dancers in jersey are here illegally from russia anyway. and if not, according to you, they're all making money by illegally prostituting themselves anyway. so how are they supposed to pay taxes when they don't make any money from actually dancing?

Earl_the_Pearl
11-09-2009, 10:58 AM
Oh fuck off Earl. You're a miserable old piece of shit that has nothing better to do than harangue and belittle people you know nothing about.

It's a shame this sites doesn't give a damn anymore, there was a time when this was primarily a support forum where we didn't have to deal with assholes, and trolls like yourself weren't allowed run rampant accusing us of imagined crimes and calling us names.
I did not intend to call anyone person a leech. I amended my post to say any worker that hides money from the IRS is a leech. I also removed the collective you I did not intend to single out any person as I have no knowledge of who does or does not pay taxes.

blaze_n_hot
11-09-2009, 11:12 AM
I don't think it's rare. I've worked at three clubs, and two of them reported our income.

If I didn't pay taxes I wouldn't be able invest or buy a car or house without raising suspicion. Actually, I don't think that I'd be able to buy a car or house at all without proof of income.