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camille27
12-12-2009, 09:07 AM
yeah, i am not willing to install windows on m computer right now but websfinest.com is not macfriendly either
malayataylor
12-12-2009, 09:08 AM
yeah, i am not willing to install windows on m computer right now but websfinest.com is not macfriendly either
Oh wow.. i didn't know this . :(
GoldCoastGirl
12-12-2009, 05:50 PM
Okay so far the list is growing! That's sad ... The following cam sites are not mac friendly:
My Free Cams
Webs Finest
please feel free to add to this list.
MsClaireVoyant
12-12-2009, 11:22 PM
Woo hoo. Got approved for livejasmin today. Can't wait to give it a try. I think I am going to keep to the normal hours I work at streamate while I'm figuring everything out at livejasmin, maybe work a couple day shifts there this week just to see how it is... it looks really cool and I LOVE that you can sell your videos there. I know guys buy the videos because customers tell me they bought mine on streamate. So I think this can work really well for me and recording videos sounds like it would be fun.
Kimbre
12-12-2009, 11:41 PM
Thanks for those who posted about the changing of the rates. I feel like my show is worth about $1000/minute, (mostly because of weirdos and time wasters, and broke ass guys just trying to get whatever they think they can get) I don't know about the rest of y'all. ;P I was told by someone who was helping me get everything together before I started this that you should start with a lower, yet reasonable rate and go up from there. I guess that's good advice. I'll keep my price where it is at the moment, and raise it in a couple of weeks.
What I think sucks is that as a performer, we can't see what other performers are charging for their shows. I'm curious to know what other people are charging, especially the girls who claim to do hardcore shows, with all these bizarre amenities.
MsClaireVoyant
12-12-2009, 11:48 PM
I know, me too. And yeah I started at 1.99 and I swear, I didn't get any more shows than I do now at 2.69.
malayataylor
12-13-2009, 12:02 AM
Thanks for those who posted about the changing of the rates. I feel like my show is worth about $1000/minute, (mostly because of weirdos and time wasters, and broke ass guys just trying to get whatever they think they can get) I don't know about the rest of y'all. ;P I was told by someone who was helping me get everything together before I started this that you should start with a lower, yet reasonable rate and go up from there. I guess that's good advice. I'll keep my price where it is at the moment, and raise it in a couple of weeks.
What I think sucks is that as a performer, we can't see what other performers are charging for their shows. I'm curious to know what other people are charging, especially the girls who claim to do hardcore shows, with all these bizarre amenities.
I beg to differ. I tried to raise my rates on imlive and wouldn't get any shows.. i bet the guys were going .. "hell no i saw her last week for $2.80 a minute".. well as an indy i charge $3.oo for just cam and $3.50 for cam and phone and do OK. i think it's WISER to charge a lower rate to get more shows period.. $2.00 a minute for cam and $2.80 for cam and phone is perfect i think! just my 2 cents!
MsClaireVoyant
12-13-2009, 01:04 PM
People pay 3.99 a minute for my exclusive chat and I don't do phone or anything special in there. Work it! :)
ryleeNsd
12-13-2009, 01:16 PM
I started out at 3.99 & 4.99 on streamate and have never lowered my price. Guys will pay for their porn, I think naked charges like 4.99 or 5.99/min while the girls only make $1/min. I started out there happy with my little $1/min at first then got on SM when I got my game down. I do get the OCCASIONAL guy who tells me I need to lower my price and we're in a recession..blah blah blah, but u know what- when I'm on my "A" game I have no downtime in free chat, I get maybe 5 mins of a breather then I'm back in pvt. GUYS WILL PAY FOR THEIR PORN ;) I dont know how to give a "lesser quality" show if I lowered my price cuz every show is my best effort. A guy who pays 1.50 or 4.99 for my time is going to get the best show I can give so why charge less? Just my .02
malayataylor
12-13-2009, 01:24 PM
People pay 3.99 a minute for my exclusive chat and I don't do phone or anything special in there. Work it! :)
That's awesome! If it works for you continue..it's worked for me but I've lowered my rates and doing better than I did before. I'm thinking lower rates more shows- Higher rates, less shows.. depending on how much you wanna make. It's a recession girl!whatever works for you all but I have a rate structure I now go by after months of trial and error. It goes like this: (I'll also post this on the indie cam thread).
cam rates:
10 minute minimum.
Under 15 minutes $2.80 a minute
Shows 15 and over $2.00 a minute
Cam with phone rates:
10 minute minimum
Under 15 minutes $3.00 a minute
Shows 15 and over $2.80 a minute
This way I'm getting more shows and more money.. I mean guys are cheap asses they'll look at the $2.00 show and go "oooh that's only $2.00 a minute what a bargain" but they're getting a longer show which means more money for me.. it's really a win-win situation.
I get lots of 15 minute phone with cam shows at $2.80 a minute. That's $42 per show and $126 if I did 3 shows that day. Not bad. If I did 3 shows a day for 6 days that's $756.00 a week. I could live with that ;D
AND trust me there will be days when you have more than 3 shows.. even show requests at the same time.. i know crazy!
I'm not saying anyone do what I'm doing. I'm saying treat it like a business and keep track of what's working and what's not. Minnie keeps a spreadsheet for her escorting business. You can also do the same with cams.. I think it's very smart of her.
ryleeNsd
12-13-2009, 01:39 PM
^offering block timed sessions is very savy- they def feel like they are getting a deal. Kinda like buying a gallon tub of ketchup at Costco- yea it costs a little more but you get soooo much more for your $ :) sorry couldnt think of a better analogy lol
malayataylor
12-13-2009, 01:45 PM
^offering block timed sessions is very savy- they def feel like they are getting a deal. Kinda like buying a gallon tub of ketchup at Costco- yea it costs a little more but you get soooo much more for your $ :) sorry couldnt think of a better analogy lol
Love the analogy :) Yes selling blocked sessions is what indy camgirls do. I think its much more profitable.
MsClaireVoyant
12-13-2009, 02:31 PM
You're making me want to go indy malaya...
I've been debating it. But I think I'll try livejasmin and streamate for awhile more first.
malayataylor
12-13-2009, 02:38 PM
You're making me want to go indy malaya...
I've been debating it. But I think I'll try livejasmin and streamate for awhile more first.
No no do what works for you. Indy is not for everyone especially IF you don't know how to promote your shows. YES you'll have sites like indycam sites that'll promote your shows for you but it's not enough.. just like it's not enough to rely on the big site's traffic (imlive, cams.com...etc).
I've learned for my mistakes. I rather spend 4 hours online and make $150-$250 than 8 hours online making that amount. that's what an independent camgirl does given she used the right tools ;)
MsClaireVoyant
12-13-2009, 06:20 PM
Hmmm livejasmin isnt working for me so far. I mean it does, I logged on and there were billions of dudes in my room but my cam is going SO slow on there. I mean there is a 5 second delay at least and the picture looks really choppy. It's not like that on my streamate cam. I'm not sure how to change this?
MsClaireVoyant
12-16-2009, 12:43 PM
So the past few days I tried something... when asked how I am I responded every time with "horny" instead of "good". I wanted to see how it effected things. Weirdly enough, it did seem to get me a lot more shows but with worse custies! Telling them I'm horny seemed to attract a lot of custies who barked orders at me rather than talk to me and another weird thing, almost all of my customers aside from a couple regulars all left pvt really fast. So I had a lot of shows all night but they were really annoying, 2-3 minute and then BAM gone sorta shows... And overall I made LESS than I normally would.
So next time I work I'm going to try the opposite. Acting really sophisticated and elegant and using great language ("I'm doing excellent tonight sweetheart, how are you?") and see how that effects things... I prefer acting sophisticated than like a cum crazed whore anyway (at least until they are paying me) so we will see.
Hehe I like doing these experiments... the behavior and response of men is fascinating to me. 8)
Raven69Skye
12-16-2009, 02:32 PM
It's interesting, isn't it? I enjoy learning about things like that, too. Guess that's why I'm a psychology major. lol. Let us know how your next experiment goes. :)
So the past few days I tried something... when asked how I am I responded every time with "horny" instead of "good". I wanted to see how it effected things. Weirdly enough, it did seem to get me a lot more shows but with worse custies! Telling them I'm horny seemed to attract a lot of custies who barked orders at me rather than talk to me and another weird thing, almost all of my customers aside from a couple regulars all left pvt really fast. So I had a lot of shows all night but they were really annoying, 2-3 minute and then BAM gone sorta shows... And overall I made LESS than I normally would.
So next time I work I'm going to try the opposite. Acting really sophisticated and elegant and using great language ("I'm doing excellent tonight sweetheart, how are you?") and see how that effects things... I prefer acting sophisticated than like a cum crazed whore anyway (at least until they are paying me) so we will see.
Hehe I like doing these experiments... the behavior and response of men is fascinating to me. 8)
SummerB
06-20-2014, 06:00 AM
Interesting thread. Anyone got any new hustle tips?
I do the more clothes is better route and try to be friendly but not talk to much.
SummerB
06-20-2014, 06:09 AM
Interesting thread. Anyone got any new hustle tips?
I do the more clothes is better route and try to be friendly but not talk to much.
MochaCammie
06-20-2014, 07:09 PM
I'm on SM and have been consistent there for less than 6 months. It’s my main site for now but I’m working on getting my promo situated for indie camming. I’ve read many many threads on advice for free chat and prvt-based sites. I took some of the advice and applied it to my room and w/ some tweaking to my liking I found what works for me. This is my hustle….
a.) I type in free chat and talk only in prvt. After I type something I try to always look up into the camera. Something about a person’s eyes. I tried this out for a month and whether I type or talk as long as I look into the camera I end up getting a prvt half the time (if the guy is serious about getting a show). In the beginning I used to talk out loud in free chat and non-spenders liked my voice and accent so later on I figured that my voice should be for spenders ONLY.
b.) I smile or grin the whole time in free chat but only give a few min of my time to guys in free chat. I greet everyone and answer basic questions like how I’m doing and if I have toys or do certain fetishes. If they don't tip or go prvt w/in 6 or 7 min I ignore them. I also learned my lesson w/ the complimenters... I now thank the complimenters twice and that's it.
DailyComplimenter: Wow, you're beautiful and your boobs look amazing
Mocha: Aww thanks
RegComplimenter: Your smile lights up the room and your hair looks great today
Mocha: Ty.
DailyComplimenter: If you were mine I'd make you soooo happy that you wouldn't even want to do this anymore.
>:( It's like the complimenters used to get off on how many times I thanked him so I cut it down to just 2. You want me to be happy how bout you take me prvt and compliment me as much as you want. wonder how he'd make me happy... Compliment me on a daily basis? I'm not here to date I'm here to get paid.
c.) I keep Notepad open and every single tipper or guy that has taken me prvt is listed there w/ their handle name, what the prvt consisted of, the date of the prvt, and their first name that they gave me. It makes them feel good when “Reg4321” enters my room and I greet him by his actual name, Tim.
d.) I verbally acknowledge regulars when they enter my room, “Hi Isaac! How was your work conference last Friday?” and the freeloaders only get a pathetic typed “Hi” and then are ignored after that. I’m referring to the known freeloaders that come in free chat room every single day and never spend but always want to talk and beg for this and that. Special attention is given to SPENDERS only!
e.) I don’t dance or stand. If I need to stretch I let the room know that my ass is getting numb and I need a massage. 2 times out of 10 someone will tip to see me stand. If no one tips or takes me prvt I will type “someone wants to play brb!!” I’m not actually in a prvt, I’m laying down w/ my butt in the air stretching lol but I am training them to understand that I’m not about to just stretch and show off my legs/ass/feet for free. I stay gone for a few min and then go back to my room. Sometimes that leads to someone going prvt or a new person adds me to their favorites.
f.) I don’t show too much skin. This one was kinda tricky. In the beginning I wore a bra, panties, and a tee and had my whole body in the frame. I would get guys that just sat in my free chat gawking at me and not talking…ugh… so I started wearing shorts, tights, or jeans over my panties and positioning the cam to just showing my eyebrow down to the bottom of my tee. When I lean back for whatever reason they can see that I do have on shorts or pants. Big difference. Guys would ask to see my legs or ass. Sure, 5 gold dude.. Plus the more clothes I have on the longer my prvts are.
g.) I only do what I want to do. When someone asks me to do something I will if it's w/in the rules and if it's followed w/ a tip. No tip no service. Of course I get the whiners... "Aww you're lame/a $ whore!! The other girls show their boobs/ass/feet/armpit or stand on their heads/dance/do back flips for free!!" I simply tell them that I'm me and I don't care what other girls show or do. I'm not moving unless I get a tip or get taken prvt. I don't entertain freeloaders. 9 times out of 10 the guys that demand that you show something w/out tipping are timewasters and will either continue to complain or leave. If they don't leave I kick them. I am working on doing 6 hr shifts each day and refuse to allow a time-waster to upset me to the point that I end up logging off for the day.
That's kinda lengthy...lol
Glamourmilf
06-20-2014, 08:43 PM
Thanks for digging this thread up. I find it interesting to read what cam girls were discussing in 2009, a year before I started. Great info.
SpaceyLaceyButterfacey
06-21-2014, 01:10 PM
So the past few days I tried something... when asked how I am I responded every time with "horny" instead of "good". I wanted to see how it effected things. Weirdly enough, it did seem to get me a lot more shows but with worse custies! Telling them I'm horny seemed to attract a lot of custies who barked orders at me rather than talk to me and another weird thing, almost all of my customers aside from a couple regulars all left pvt really fast. So I had a lot of shows all night but they were really annoying, 2-3 minute and then BAM gone sorta shows... And overall I made LESS than I normally would.
So next time I work I'm going to try the opposite. Acting really sophisticated and elegant and using great language ("I'm doing excellent tonight sweetheart, how are you?") and see how that effects things... I prefer acting sophisticated than like a cum crazed whore anyway (at least until they are paying me) so we will see.
Hehe I like doing these experiments... the behavior and response of men is fascinating to me. 8)
I am definitely going to try something like this. The psychology of camming is very interesting and this gave me a great idea...
Thanks for bumping this thread SummerB!