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xdamage
11-19-2009, 08:22 PM
It's a helluva lot easier to call custys names than improve your own hustle. Doing so insures you get to keep that whole victim mentality that makes it everybody's fault but your own when you fail to make bank night after night after night.

Victim think is a combination of personality type, popular think, and well, just growing out of it. It's brutally hard to accept our failures/weaknesses as having something to do with ourselves.


... but I can promise you there are about a million things I would rather be than a salesperson lol. Trying it was ok, but it just doesn't fit my personality, regardless of how well I did. ..

But this... I'm quite convinced that not everyone is cut out to be a sales person. I utterly suck at it, and I hate it. I think people can make themselves do it, but some of just don't have any natural sense of passion for it and even when we do well, feel little satisfaction. Fortunately, there are endless other jobs where people with different personalities can flourish.

lopaw
11-19-2009, 08:47 PM
I guess I've been pretty lucky. Whenever I've told a dancer "no thanks", I've never been read the riot act or called a bad name.She will usually just smile, say OK, and walk away. I thought that that was the norm, but after reading through some of the posts on this thread, apparently it's not.

erotictonic
11-19-2009, 08:58 PM
I guess I've been pretty lucky. Whenever I've told a dancer "no thanks", I've never been read the riot act or called a bad name.She will usually just smile, say OK, and walk away. I thought that that was the norm, but after reading through some of the posts on this thread, apparently it's not.

I am thinking that 1) It has to do with the club. If the money's flowing, the drinks are flowing, and people are having a good time, and the management and sc model are dancer-friendly, there are going to be less desperate dancers. 2) The guy is actually not creepy, but if girls are desperate, it will still happen regardless.

KiwiStrawberry Splenda
11-19-2009, 09:09 PM
I've also never been given attitude by a dancer when I told her no, thank you. Maybe its because the strippers brave enough to approach female custies can handle rejection.

Also, as a dancer, when you've gotten 20 "no" in a row, sometimes # 21 becomes a manifestation of all their frustrations, and they lose their composure on you. Although I've never done it, I can empathize.

Chili Palmer
11-19-2009, 09:14 PM
I am thinking that 1) It has to do with the club. If the money's flowing, the drinks are flowing, and people are having a good time, and the management and sc model are dancer-friendly, there are going to be less desperate dancers. 2) The guy is actually not creepy, but if girls are desperate, it will still happen regardless.

I think it actually has more to do with the fact that lopaw is a chick, and therefore cannot be a creepy guy under any circumstances. :boobies:

CP

erotictonic
11-19-2009, 10:49 PM
I think it actually has more to do with the fact that lopaw is a chick, and therefore cannot be a creepy guy under any circumstances. :boobies:

CP

That could be it, for her. :D

I think I got carried away and was just answering it generally without thinking about WHO I was talking to.

Maybe I can hijack the thread more and actually finish a chapter in my journal lmao.

JoeUnCool
11-20-2009, 07:22 AM
No offense but you sound like a huge asshole, how about saying "i'm not looking for a dance" right away, instead of engaging in this mindless mind numbing banter??
Some guys can be so dumb.

While not seen often, I've sometimes run across the angry dancer hustle. That one doesn't work on me either.

JoeUnCool
11-20-2009, 07:24 AM
I guess I've been pretty lucky. Whenever I've told a dancer "no thanks", I've never been read the riot act or called a bad name.She will usually just smile, say OK, and walk away. I thought that that was the norm, but after reading through some of the posts on this thread, apparently it's not.

I'd say at least 40% of the dancers that I say "no thanks" to will escalate into her complaining. Higher end clubs, the dancers tend to walk away. At lower end clubs, they seem to argue more. that's just my experience. I have no exact percentages to back it up.

bem401
11-20-2009, 07:48 AM
Also, as a dancer, when you've gotten 20 "no" in a row, sometimes # 21 becomes a manifestation of all their frustrations, and they lose their composure on you. Although I've never done it, I can empathize.

Conversely, as a customer, when you've had to turn away several girls in a short period of time, its not always easy to conceal your frustration either. Its not any any individual girl that causes it, but the sum of them. If you are the fifth girl to approach me (with a noticeable hustle) in , say 20 minutes, while I'm waiting for the person I came to see, I'm probably not going to be as polite and respectful as I was to the the first who approached me.

rockie
11-20-2009, 09:16 AM
I actually think the "no thanks" conversation has gone badly for me about 2% of the time. When it's gone wrong the result is something that is occasionally is so distasteful that it stands out more prominently (in my mind) than the 98% that have been fine.

KiwiStrawberry Splenda
11-20-2009, 06:47 PM
Conversely, as a customer, when you've had to turn away several girls in a short period of time, its not always easy to conceal your frustration either. Its not any any individual girl that causes it, but the sum of them. If you are the fifth girl to approach me (with a noticeable hustle) in , say 20 minutes, while I'm waiting for the person I came to see, I'm probably not going to be as polite and respectful as I was to the the first who approached me.

I think its rude on both counts. Its tacky and unprofessional when a stripper does it. However, you, as a customer, should understand that the girls are working, and they haven't seen how long you've been there, or how many girls have stopped by.

Either way, I suggest the golden rule here, for everyone...if the girls are bugging you that much, go sit at the bar.

Phil-W
11-21-2009, 05:48 AM
If I go to a venue its almost invariably to pick up a girl. I try and stand at the back, but if a girl comes and approaches me for a dance, I try and say as soon as decently possible: "I'm X's driver". That way she knows I won't be buying dances - and she knows why.

If any girl wants tipping for a floor or stage show, I will tip her - irrespective of whether I pay any attention or not. There are girls that don't want to be tipped - but that's because they know me - and it's always their choice.

As to the persistent hustlers, I think that's almost in desperation. Sometimes there are too many girls and too few customers and the repeated requests for a dance are because the girl is going to walk out with a very small profit (or even a loss).

Phil.

bem401
11-22-2009, 11:31 AM
Either way, I suggest the golden rule here, for everyone...if the girls are bugging you that much, go sit at the bar.

Where do you think I am sitting? I am already at the bar, not facing the stage, trying my best to ignore everyone but the one or two girls I am interested in spending time with.

yoda57us
11-22-2009, 03:06 PM
Either way, I suggest the golden rule here, for everyone...if the girls are bugging you that much, go sit at the bar.

Honestly, in Providence clubs at least, the bar is not a safe refuge for guys who don't want to be approached. I always sit at the bar in three different clubs down there and get hit on pretty regularly.

I have no problem with being asked, politely, by every dancer in the club as long as they know how to take "no thanks, I'm waiting for someone else" for an answer. In most cases they do but once in a while I get the "can I sit here while you wait for her" hustle. If I am going to get even remotely pissy it's gonna be when some chick won't get her ass out off the chair that my ATF is going to be sitting in.

bem401
11-22-2009, 04:40 PM
I have no problem with being asked, politely, by every dancer in the club as long as they no how to take "no thanks, I'm waiting for someone else" for an answer. In most cases they do but once in a while I get the "can I sit here while you wait for her" hustle. If I am going to get even remotely pissy it's gonna be when some chick won't get her ass out off the chair that my ATF is going to be sitting in.

They've stopped using that hustle. Actually, twice in the last couple of weeks, they've gone right to the "why don't you dance with me while you're waiting?" hustle.

SteveSmith
11-22-2009, 04:51 PM
I have no problem with being asked, politely, by every dancer in the club as long as they no how to take "no thanks, I'm waiting for someone else" for an answer. In most cases they do but once in a while I get the "can I sit here while you wait for her" hustle. If I am going to get even remotely pissy it's gonna be when some chick won't get her ass out off the chair that my ATF is going to be sitting in.


They've stopped using that hustle. Actually, twice in the last couple of weeks, they've gone right to the "why don't you dance with me while you're waiting?" hustle.


I have a few hustles I use when I turn down a dancer:

1. The "I'm waiting for so and so" hustle.

2. The "I'm broke" hustle.

3. The "Maybe later" hustle.

One of these usually does the trick. ;D

erotictonic
11-22-2009, 05:05 PM
I have a few hustles I use when I turn down a dancer:

1. The "I'm waiting for so and so" hustle.

2. The "I'm broke" hustle.

3. The "Maybe later" hustle.

One of these usually does the trick. ;D

I hated "maybe later". I would've rather someone just said, "No, I would never buy a dance from you because you're not my type." Then I would know not to go back to the table anymore. :D

SteveSmith
11-22-2009, 05:09 PM
I hated "maybe later". I would've rather someone just said, "No, I would never buy a dance from you because you're not my type." Then I would know not to go back to the table anymore. :D

Yeah, I rarely use that one. I use mostly 1 and 2. The 3rd one was for comedic effect. :D

Phil-W
11-23-2009, 05:22 AM
Where do you think I am sitting? I am already at the bar, not facing the stage, trying my best to ignore everyone but the one or two girls I am interested in spending time with.

$64,000 question for you Bem....

Are you invited there by the girls because they want you there to chat, or do you just go in because you know the girls will chat to you? You will get different reactions in both cases.

Dancers gossip to each other. In a small club, or in a club with a relatively unchanging roster of dancers, regulars will get discussed. So a significant portion of the girls will know exactly why you are there.

If you've been invited into the club for a specific purpose (for example to give a girl a lift home) the majority of dancers will know that and will either not try to get dances or will rapidly desist if they do.

If the girls know/think you have come in of your own accord to chat, then from their point of view asking you for dances is an entirely legitimate request - you are after all in their place of business.

Most of us are 'wage slaves' and we know pretty well what is going to be in the bank account each month. A dancer doesn't - her earnings depend on how good she is a charming/hustling dances out of customers.

So from a dancer's perspective anyone who comes into a SC of their own choice and does not spend on dances will probably not get good 'reviews' during dancer gossip-fests in the dressing room.

Phil.

yoda57us
11-23-2009, 07:26 AM
No offense but you sound like a huge asshole, how about saying "i'm not looking for a dance" right away, instead of engaging in this mindless mind numbing banter??
Some guys can be so dumb.

Chilli is a smart guy. He has never struck me as being indecisive on this site so I'm willing to bet that he isn't a time waster in the clubs. I'm sure that if she had asked him for a dance right away he would have refused right away.

bem401
11-23-2009, 07:58 AM
$64,000 question for you Bem....

Are you invited there by the girls because they want you there to chat, or do you just go in because you know the girls will chat to you? You will get different reactions in both cases.

Dancers gossip to each other. In a small club, or in a club with a relatively unchanging roster of dancers, regulars will get discussed. So a significant portion of the girls will know exactly why you are there.

If you've been invited into the club for a specific purpose (for example to give a girl a lift home) the majority of dancers will know that and will either not try to get dances or will rapidly desist if they do.

If the girls know/think you have come in of your own accord to chat, then from their point of view asking you for dances is an entirely legitimate request - you are after all in their place of business.

Most of us are 'wage slaves' and we know pretty well what is going to be in the bank account each month. A dancer doesn't - her earnings depend on how good she is a charming/hustling dances out of customers.

So from a dancer's perspective anyone who comes into a SC of their own choice and does not spend on dances will probably not get good 'reviews' during dancer gossip-fests in the dressing room.

Phil.

Growing tired of being hustled for dances has become more noticeable as of late because of the higher-than-usual turnover in recent weeks/months, slower business, and its a huge club. Most of the regular dancers know me, whom I'm there to see, and don't bother asking for dances, though most are friendly and will at least acknowledge me.

My dancer friends make a point of keeping me aware of their schedule, so I assume they like having me come in. They seem to be happy sitting with me though I have no delusions their preference would be to be making money.

Being bad-mouthed by the girls you decline for dances comes with the territory. I'm sure the girls I turn down are none too happy about it. The girls can be very critical of anyone who doesn't do dances with them. They can be very critical of anyone they do dances for and they can be very critical of their regulars. I've seen and heard it all.

KiwiStrawberry Splenda
11-23-2009, 05:30 PM
Growing tired of being hustled for dances has become more noticeable as of late because of the higher-than-usual turnover in recent weeks/months, slower business, and its a huge club.

Then don't come into the club every single day asshole!!! Things are tough all over, and if its new girls...then how the fuck do they know you aren't going to spend money, they have to try!

Like I said, while dancers who can't take no for an answer suck and are unprofessional, there is no reason to be a dick to a girl just coming by and trying to do her job.

Are you also rude to sales people at mall stores who offer to assist you?

Chili Palmer
11-23-2009, 11:05 PM
Growing tired of being hustled for dances has become more noticeable as of late because of the higher-than-usual turnover in recent weeks/months, slower business, and its a huge club. Most of the regular dancers know me, whom I'm there to see, and don't bother asking for dances, though most are friendly and will at least acknowledge me.

My dancer friends make a point of keeping me aware of their schedule, so I assume they like having me come in. They seem to be happy sitting with me though I have no delusions their preference would be to be making money.

Being bad-mouthed by the girls you decline for dances comes with the territory. I'm sure the girls I turn down are none too happy about it. The girls can be very critical of anyone who doesn't do dances with them. They can be very critical of anyone they do dances for and they can be very critical of their regulars. I've seen and heard it all.


Then don't come into the club every single day asshole!!! Things are tough all over, and if its new girls...then how the fuck do they know you aren't going to spend money, they have to try!

Like I said, while dancers who can't take no for an answer suck and are unprofessional, there is no reason to be a dick to a girl just coming by and trying to do her job.

Are you also rude to sales people at mall stores who offer to assist you?

Wow. Trying to read anywhere in Bem401's response that called for that type of escalation. And again with the name-calling (this time him and not me, though). Methinks we are hitting a little too close to home with some of ya pinkies.

All Bem and I (and many of the other actual customers in this thread) are saying is we are weary of the "won't take 'no' for an answer dancer." All of us understand that it's a dancer's job to ask us for dances, we're just tired of the grief we'll get when we're trying to politely say no. Move on; this isn't kitchen remodel you're trying to close, it's a friggin' lapdance.

Now to throw some kerosene on the flames: anyone else ever notice that it's never a dancer that looks like J.D. who won't go away, or goes away badly? I mean, the hotties may have their own issues (not circulating, diva-like attitude, trying to raise the price for their services vs. what the club says to charge, etc.), but if you say 'no' to a hottie like J.D., you're likely to never see her again.

You remind me a lot of a service tech I once worked with named Fred. When we first started training our guys to sell better (way back in the late 80's), every time we presented an idea Fred would stop and tell us we were wrong. Yet, whenever we looked at the sales boad, Fred's name was always in 12th out of 12 places. All the other techs soon figured that if you did the opposite of what Fred said, you were on the road to success.

I realize it is complete and utter sacrilege on this site to think that you wonderful and esteemed Pinkies could possibly learn something from the Blueballers, but maybe, just maybe, you could lose that huge and resentful chip on your shoulder and try to learn something.

CP

Kyaaa
11-24-2009, 12:23 AM
This has been super helpful. Generally speaking, i have no trouble getting dances. I come across as very genuine and sincere. Guys comment on the fact that i'm not 'your typical stripper' which generally works in my favor. i just try to be honest. But i do find that when i'm very very tired at work sometimes and i try to hustle it just becomes one of the bad hustles and i get nowhere. I can tell when i'm doing it wrong and think to myself 'my god, this is so painful. how can i remove myself from this situation smoothly?'

With dancing and trying to entice a guy into buying a dance it's a lot of trial and error and we definitely learn from our mistakes. I've been doing this for 4 months now and I learn something new every shift.

What it comes down to, for me, is trying to give the customer the best experience i can. If they buy a dance, great, i'm going to give them one hell of an amazing dance! If they don't, that's okay. I'm not going to be a bitch to them and blemish their night.

Kyaaa
11-24-2009, 12:26 AM
This has been super helpful. Generally speaking, i have no trouble getting dances. I come across as very genuine and sincere. Guys comment on the fact that i'm not 'your typical stripper' which generally works in my favor. i just try to be honest. But i do find that when i'm very very tired at work sometimes and i try to hustle it just becomes one of the bad hustles and i get nowhere. I can tell when i'm doing it wrong and think to myself 'my god, this is so painful. how can i remove myself from this situation smoothly?'

With dancing and trying to entice a guy into buying a dance it's a lot of trial and error and we definitely learn from our mistakes. I've been doing this for 4 months now and I learn something new every shift.

What it comes down to, for me, is trying to give the customer the best experience i can. If they buy a dance, great, i'm going to give them one hell of an amazing dance! If they don't, that's okay. I'm not going to be a bitch to them and blemish their night.

bem401
11-24-2009, 06:34 AM
Then don't come into the club every single day asshole!!! Things are tough all over, and if its new girls...then how the fuck do they know you aren't going to spend money, they have to try!

Like I said, while dancers who can't take no for an answer suck and are unprofessional, there is no reason to be a dick to a girl just coming by and trying to do her job.

Are you also rude to sales people at mall stores who offer to assist you?

Actually, I'm even going to resist the temptation to be rude to you since you obviously have issues you're dealing with.

Do you even read what people write before launching into a tirade? Where did I say I was rude? Where did I say I visit the club every day? I'm there maybe 3 times a week for about an hour at a time.

I understand the girls are just doing their job but I don't owe them anything more than a polite refusal, which is exactly what they get. It doesn't mean I don't get tired of saying " I'm waiting for so and so" or frustrated by girls who think they're entitled to a dance or won't take "no" for an answer.

I'm there to see who I'm there to see. I have little desire to interact with anyone else, but in nearly 10 years of visiting clubs, I can't recall ever being rude to a dancer ( even those who wouldn't take "no" for an answer). I deal with them as diplomatically as I'm trying to deal with you.

xdamage
11-24-2009, 08:24 AM
It's the nature of the business dynamics. The dancers being ICs, and few have any plans to make dancing a life time career or move up the management chain, they are in it for the short-term profits. Factor in that many dancers feel pressure to earn their facility use fees (i.e., house fees), and that it is a strange business in that customers can/do hang out and enjoy the free show, and here we are.

But that said, even dancers can imagine going on vacation, or going shopping, and being bombarded near non-stop by ICs, unable to shop in peace or enjoy your time off at all without a sales person pitching.

Are there fixes? Yes and no. There other business models including commissioned employees but there'd be other reasons to be other negatives then.

All that said it is the blue side and for those who go to SCs for entertainment, ultimately we go to enjoy our time off. It is not our primary goal to make sure every sales person is 100% happy with us all the time. Chances are most No Thanks scenarios go about as well as they can but I honestly don't see how the situation can be perfect. There are always going to be customers who abuse, and dancers who get themselves into negative situations by being oblivious to the customer PoV as well.

yoda57us
11-24-2009, 10:01 AM
As much fun as it is to talk/bicker/theorize about hustle and how we react/feel about it the fact is it's all part of the business and one of the many things that makes trying to compare dancing to any other "sales" job as pointless.

Ninety percent of the time when I walk into a strip club I am going to see one dancer. Others may approach me and I accept that. I am polite, I don't waste their time and I expect the same in return. I am aware that I may have been the tenth guy in a row to say no in the past hour but that's really not my problem.

I go into the club to patronize strippers, not to watch from the bar or visit friends. That being said and based on about 25 years of going to strip clubs some guys do one or both of those things. As long as they don't lead the girls on to get their attention I honestly don't see the big deal. From a dancer's perspective these are simply the guys that you need to identify and put on your "ignore" list when you are working. I see these guys all the time. They are like furniture after a while to the girls. They are not and never will be part of the hustle equation. They are part of what you get when you put the words "Bar" and "Exotic Dancers" on the sign out front and unlock the door every day. Yes, it will take a new girl a while to figure it out but it's part of the learning curve to being a good earner.

Earl_the_Pearl
11-24-2009, 06:36 PM
The girls can be very critical of anyone who doesn't do dances with them. They can be very critical of anyone they do dances for and they can be very critical of their regulars.

That says it all we can go out and play now.

KiwiStrawberry Splenda
11-24-2009, 09:16 PM
Chili, everything you say and do is magic.....

KiwiStrawberry Splenda
11-24-2009, 09:19 PM
Actually, I'm even going to resist the temptation to be rude to you since you obviously have issues you're dealing with.

Do you even read what people write before launching into a tirade? Where did I say I was rude? Where did I say I visit the club every day? I'm there maybe 3 times a week for about an hour at a time.

I understand the girls are just doing their job but I don't owe them anything more than a polite refusal, which is exactly what they get. It doesn't mean I don't get tired of saying " I'm waiting for so and so" or frustrated by girls who think they're entitled to a dance or won't take "no" for an answer.
.

Ok, touche. The memory of some guy waving me off while his face is sitting in his beer mug just comes to me, and I think you're that guy, even if you're not. I can't stand "don't take no for an answer" girls either. I really hate being mean to unattractive strippers who park themselves down and grow barnacles, wish they would stop.

Earl_the_Pearl
11-25-2009, 01:45 AM
The memory of some guy waving me off while his face is sitting in his beer mug just comes to me,
I have never waved a dancer off, NEVER. This from a PL that frequents the bowels of the dancer community.

yoda57us
11-25-2009, 08:41 AM
I have never waved a dancer off, NEVER. This from a PL that frequents the bowls of the dancer community.

I'm thinking you meant bowels? I'm not usually one for correcting grammar since mine is sketchy at best but you seem so proud of your statement that I just wanted to help you get it right...::)

rlams2000
11-25-2009, 09:42 AM
Can I buy a vowel?

Earl_the_Pearl
11-25-2009, 06:41 PM
Can I buy a vowel?

http://www.capitalcentury.com/quayle1.jpg

Vyanka
11-29-2009, 10:49 AM
No offense but you sound like a huge asshole, how about saying "i'm not looking for a dance" right away, instead of engaging in this mindless mind numbing banter??
Some guys can be so dumb.


I don't think that was an asshole move. As a stripper, she dragged on too long before asking for a dance.

I mean, she shouldve known he might be a time waster(no offense Chilli) just by his body language alone(The eyes focusing on stage & legs crossed) when she approached him.


On the whole cursing a customer out... I don't understand why someone would curse someone out if they got rejected? That shit is straight up rude. I have never cursed someone out if I got rejected, I politely excuse myself and move on. And then guess what, that same dude who rejected me calls me over later on bc now he feels ready, and felt how I was cool. ;)

You Know Me
11-30-2009, 03:49 PM
I'll add one

Don't take NO for an answer hustle:
Get this one sometimes, usually includes lines like

"Aw come on just one dance, you'll have fun"
"Don't you like me?"
"Come on let's go ... just one"
"If you don't like the dance you don't have to pay"
"Ok, I'll give you a 2 for 1"
"Why did you come here if you don't want dances?"
"Fuckin' Asshole!"
"Well at least tip me a dollar, come on just one dollar"

I give a score of 0

"Come on let's go ... just one"
I will stop her right here and let her know that so far i have been nice, it is up to her if she wants to get verbally cut from this point on.

"Fuckin' Asshole!"
If it gets to this point i will show her just how big of an asshole i can be and ask for a manager so she can explain to him why she thinks it is a good idea to berate a customer that doesnt find her attractive enough to give her $20.00. I have zero tolerance for these girls.

J.D.
11-30-2009, 04:19 PM
"Come on let's go ... just one"
I will stop her right here and let her know that so far i have been nice, it is up to her if she wants to get verbally cut from this point on.

"Fuckin' Asshole!"
If it gets to this point i will show her just how big of an asshole i can be and ask for a manager so she can explain to him why she thinks it is a good idea to berate a customer that doesnt find her attractive enough to give her $20.00. I have zero tolerance for these girls.

The manager will kick you out if you say this. Sorry kid, but we're at the top of the strip club totem pole, ultimately, management wants to keep us happy.

Earl_the_Pearl
11-30-2009, 05:09 PM
The manager will kick you out if you say this. Sorry kid, but we're at the top of the strip club totem pole, ultimately, management wants to keep us happy.
That may have been true in the past but with there being as many dancers as PLs in the clubs today the worm has turned.

minnow
11-30-2009, 09:18 PM
The manager will kick you out if you say this. Sorry kid, but we're at the top of the strip club totem pole, ultimately, management wants to keep us happy.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

J.D.- My take on this is that the (re- TP#2) dancer , not the custie called the other party a "FAH". Was that how you saw it?? If club mgt. is going to throw someone out for merely turning down a dance, and subsequently calling dancers rudeness to the attention of mgt, well, that club deserves to be on every customers s^#tlist. Put another way, if you went into dept. store, car dealer showroom, etc, didn't buy item(s) proferred right away, and sales person called you a "FAH", how would you handle it?

You Know Me
11-30-2009, 10:29 PM
The manager will kick you out if you say this. Sorry kid, but we're at the top of the strip club totem pole, ultimately, management wants to keep us happy.

If he is that stupid then i would gladly walk. Its hurts the club a lot more than it would hurt me. I am sure the other clubs in town would be more than happy to take my money. There are always plenty of clubs with plenty of pretty girls that do not have to beg men for dances and then get pissy when they are rejected. Right now supply exceeds demand and i make the rules. Otherwise i can just go shoot some pool or play beer pong with my boys back at the house. Getting thrown out of a strip club is the least of my worries.

bem401
12-01-2009, 06:44 AM
The manager will kick you out if you say this. Sorry kid, but we're at the top of the strip club totem pole, ultimately, management wants to keep us happy.

I don't think its quite that simple. Aside from the fact that virtually any dancer is more easily replaced that a customer these days, different dancers are of varying importance to the club, as are different customers. That being said, none of the top girls I know would react that way and the altercation hardly seems one that would get the guy thrown out with a lesser dancer. On top of that, why would anyone run to management?

J.D.
12-01-2009, 07:37 AM
I don't think its quite that simple. Aside from the fact that virtually any dancer is more easily replaced that a customer these days, different dancers are of varying importance to the club, as are different customers. That being said, none of the top girls I know would react that way and the altercation hardly seems one that would get the guy thrown out with a lesser dancer. On top of that, why would anyone run to management?

I could get a guy kicked out for anything. I get away with murder at my club. If I don't like your hair I'll have you kicked out.

You Know Me
12-01-2009, 07:48 AM
On top of that, why would anyone run to management?

Lets see:
She sits down and hammers you for a dance.
You let her know it isnt going to happen.
She continues to press hard.
You are no longer having a good time.
She starts to get pissy.
Now you are getting angry.
She starts to get verbally abusive and attacking you for simple rejection.
You now have to decide:
1. Be a little bitch and let her walk all over you.
2. Verbally abuse her back and cut deep.
3. Ask for a manager. I doubt the dancer stays there. She knows she is wrong and if nothing else i finally get rid of her.

J.D.
12-01-2009, 07:53 AM
How about give her a tip and tell her no thanks? It's not that hard, and you're not shopping at Sears. You're at a strip club where we are dancing naked, try to understand this and be nice. Imagine how it would feel if you are taking off your clothes and trying to sell 3 minutes for a measly $20, and a guy looks you up and down says "No thanks" and cops an attitude. It's not a good feeling, I can assure you. I can promise you this, a girl is not going to call you an asshole for no reason, you probably deserved it.

You Know Me
12-01-2009, 08:00 AM
How about give her a tip and tell her no thanks. It's not that hard, and you're not shopping at Sears. You're at a strip club where we are dancing naked, try to understand this and be nice.

I am always nice.

Until its time to no longer be nice.

When i walk into sears i dont buy everything.
try to understand this and be nice.

J.D.
12-01-2009, 08:01 AM
I have zero tolerance for these girls.

Trust me, we have zero tolerance for you too! LOL :)

mortalman
12-01-2009, 08:05 AM
On top of that, why would anyone run to management?

I've worked in the service industry before, both as a hourly worker and a manager, and more often than not when customers complain they become a pain in the ass to the manager rather than someone they want to come back.

Also, Last thing I want in a strip club is the management watching me to make sure everything is ok. I don't want them to notice me, or my activities, at all.

bem401
12-01-2009, 08:11 AM
I could get a guy kicked out for anything. I get away with murder at my club. If I don't like your hair I'll have you kicked out.

As I said, different dancers are of different value to the club. If you've worked at the club for a long time, you'd have some clout ( any veteran dancer would). Without that seniority, I don't think its likely to happen. A relatively new dancer would not be able to have an established customer ejected without cause at the club I go to.

That being said, veteran dancers and established customers aren't likely to allow themselves to be drawn into such a mess in the first place.

You Know Me
12-01-2009, 08:11 AM
you probably deserved it.

I have never been called asshole in a club.

I was commenting on a post.