View Full Version : The different types of hustles and how they work on me
Wolverine
12-01-2009, 08:16 AM
Reminds me of a time a dancer complained to her manager that one of her customers ejaculated on her leg wanting to throw him out. The manager just looked at her and said, "What were you doing that he did that?" and proceeded to go about his day.
mortalman
12-01-2009, 08:16 AM
Ok, here's another hustle that might have actually worked, but I was going to get a dance from her anyway so maybe not.
For lack of a better name (I can't think of one):
Waiting for my stage hustle
She comes out of the dressing room, or wherever, and says "Can I sit here for a sec? I think I'm next on stage" So this particular girl was top less at the time and getting dressed for stage. Introduced herself, asked my name, etc. She gets called up and as she goes she asks me "Should I come back after I'm done?"
My reply: Yes, Yes you should.
You Know Me
12-01-2009, 08:19 AM
I could get a guy kicked out for anything. I get away with murder at my club. If I don't like your hair I'll have you kicked out.
Sounds like you have a lot of pull with management and the bouncers. They will throw someone out for nothing. HMMMMMMM.
That tells me a lot. I bet you are a LOT OF FUN.
bem401
12-01-2009, 08:28 AM
Lets see:
She sits down and hammers you for a dance.
You let her know it isnt going to happen.
She continues to press hard.
You are no longer having a good time.
She starts to get pissy.
Now you are getting angry.
She starts to get verbally abusive and attacking you for simple rejection.
You now have to decide:
1. Be a little bitch and let her walk all over you.
2. Verbally abuse her back and cut deep.
3. Ask for a manager. I doubt the dancer stays there. She knows she is wrong and if nothing else i finally get rid of her.
I still wouldn't run to management. The minute it started getting ugly I'd say something along the lines of "look, I said 'no', I'm not going to change my mind". If she continues, "what part of 'no' do you not understand?" In several years of club visits, it has never come to this. I'd probably excuse myself to the men's room and sit elsewhere on my return if I had to before I'd consider resorting to getting management involved.
And just because she doesn't call you an asshole to your face doesn't mean she isn't thinking it when she's rejected. Most of the girls I know generally consider the guys to be assholes until they prove otherwise. Actually, most Rhode Islanders do that too, so I don't know if that's the dancer or the RI'er in them coming out.
You Know Me
12-01-2009, 08:45 AM
I still wouldn't run to management. The minute it started getting ugly I'd say something along the lines of "look, I said 'no', I'm not going to change my mind". If she continues, "what part of 'no' do you not understand?" In several years of club visits, it has never come to this. I'd probably excuse myself to the men's room and sit elsewhere on my return if I had to before I'd consider resorting to getting management involved.
No you dont run to management.
They come to you.
I will not give up my seat for a pushy dancer.
Its never happened, and i doubt it ever will.
Only the stupid would push me that far.
But it did make for a good couple of interesting posts.
Shalom
Athenathefabulous
12-01-2009, 09:44 AM
as far as dancers saying "you are a fuckin asshole" when rejected, there are some situations that warrant a snarky comment upon rejection. here are a few that are guaranteed to get something bitchy out of me:
- when i sit/stand with a guy and he immediately tries to grab my ass or pull my hand towards his dick. at this point i try to quickly make my sale-- anyone who thinks it is acceptable to grab a girls ass before knowing her name is almost definitely trouble, and get either "i dont do parties here, but come back to my place..." or something saying that he will only buy something if i do something raunchy-- this guy deserves something mean.
- someone waves me over when i am working, wastes my time, then doesnt buy anything. If you wave a dancer over, you had better spend some money, and if you dont then i am going to tell you accordingly
- i converse with you and you or you and your buddy are just a condescding misogynist jerk trying to make fun of me or make me feel bad about myself. again, quick sale attempt, and if rejected then i am going to say something mean. people who come into my job to try to ruin my day deserve something mean in return.
- i talk to someone for a bit and they inform me they dont buy dances and they dont tip girls on stage because why would they do that when they can see us naked for free. i dont think much more needs to be said here
usually i handle rejection gracefully if it is not in these categories. now you might have not done anything in teh aforementioned categories, but lets say the dancer is having a rotten night where every guy she talked to is in one of the categories above. and you are just sitting at the bar with no intention of spending money on anyone. perhaps her mood will get the best of her then.... sometimes we are only human.
but if she is just typically rude and pushy, then insulting the customer after rejection is extremely unprofessional. some girls are just crazy like that. if its a regular occurence, hopefully management would be vigilant enough to notice so they could fire her before she scares away too many good customers. but most dancers are not like this-- most are bitchy only after being provoked.
You Know Me
12-01-2009, 10:35 AM
as far as dancers saying "you are a fuckin asshole" when rejected, there are some situations that warrant a snarky comment upon rejection. here are a few that are guaranteed to get something bitchy out of me:
- when i sit/stand with a guy and he immediately tries to grab my ass or pull my hand towards his dick. at this point i try to quickly make my sale-- anyone who thinks it is acceptable to grab a girls ass before knowing her name is almost definitely trouble, and get either "i dont do parties here, but come back to my place..." or something saying that he will only buy something if i do something raunchy-- this guy deserves something mean.
- someone waves me over when i am working, wastes my time, then doesnt buy anything. If you wave a dancer over, you had better spend some money, and if you dont then i am going to tell you accordingly
- i converse with you and you or you and your buddy are just a condescding misogynist jerk trying to make fun of me or make me feel bad about myself. again, quick sale attempt, and if rejected then i am going to say something mean. people who come into my job to try to ruin my day deserve something mean in return.
- i talk to someone for a bit and they inform me they dont buy dances and they dont tip girls on stage because why would they do that when they can see us naked for free. i dont think much more needs to be said here
usually i handle rejection gracefully if it is not in these categories. now you might have not done anything in teh aforementioned categories, but lets say the dancer is having a rotten night where every guy she talked to is in one of the categories above. and you are just sitting at the bar with no intention of spending money on anyone. perhaps her mood will get the best of her then.... sometimes we are only human.
but if she is just typically rude and pushy, then insulting the customer after rejection is extremely unprofessional. some girls are just crazy like that. if its a regular occurence, hopefully management would be vigilant enough to notice so they could fire her before she scares away too many good customers. but most dancers are not like this-- most are bitchy only after being provoked.
If that is you in the picture--im waving. (as long as you take the Your Mom off of your tummy--a little too weird for me, but the rest is gorgeous)
I agree if i provoke it, no big deal.
Glad to see some of you understand that these types of dancers or not good for you either. What if you are the next dancer to come see me and this other one has done pissed me off? I am all for defending yourself if the guy is provoking you, but not for simple rejection. One must understand that not every guy that comes into the club is going to think she is the hottest thing going.
Sounds like you have a lot of pull with management and the bouncers. They will throw someone out for nothing. HMMMMMMM.
That tells me a lot. I bet you are a LOT OF FUN.
When you are getting paid $500 an hour to sit there and look pretty (I don't even take my dress off sometimes) and throwing bones to the bouncers and managers yes, you can get away with a lot. Money talks. I think me and your wallet would have a lot of fun. A LOT!
Earl_the_Pearl
12-01-2009, 06:31 PM
I have zero tolerance for these girls.
Trust me, we have zero tolerance for you too! LOL :)
You're at a strip club where we are dancing naked, try to understand this and be nice.
I could get a guy kicked out for anything. I get away with murder at my club. If I don't like your hair I'll have you kicked out.
This is why I don't go to nude clubs; the dancers are all uptight and pissed that they have to show pink to PLs.
Mr Hyde
12-01-2009, 10:25 PM
Ok, here's another hustle that might have actually worked, but I was going to get a dance from her anyway so maybe not.
For lack of a better name (I can't think of one):
Waiting for my stage hustle
She comes out of the dressing room, or wherever, and says "Can I sit here for a sec? I think I'm next on stage" So this particular girl was top less at the time and getting dressed for stage. Introduced herself, asked my name, etc. She gets called up and as she goes she asks me "Should I come back after I'm done?"
My reply: Yes, Yes you should.
Yeah, that's a good hustle. Non-commital on both parts and low-pressure.
Dirty Ernie
12-01-2009, 11:56 PM
^ I forgot about that one. It's worked on me.
silk55
12-04-2009, 08:34 AM
the "No Hustle" works for me. My regular did it. sat a chair away from me. So i asked where's your hustle? that was the start of a a great SC relationship. }:D
bella du jour
12-04-2009, 11:08 AM
This is why I don't go to nude clubs; the dancers are all uptight and pissed that they have to show pink to PLs.
Ahhhh, that's why I've never had the pleasure of running into you, lol.
I have become less patient and more uptight as a nude dancer, but I think that has just as much to do with the "no-nonsense" attitude of jersey juice bars (not the nudity per se). No one comes to a nude club just to enjoy the $8 diet coke, so they better be prepared to get dances! It's not the public library, and if you're not willing to pay for play I will get rankled.
I'm more sympathetic to time wasting customers in a go-go bar, where singles are flowing freely to the stage and guys are used to sitting around and drinking for hours with their fave girls. At LEAST they're spending money on drinks and tipping plenty of ones.
Mr Hyde
02-04-2010, 08:48 PM
I have to agree with what one poster said...no hustle will work on me if the girl using it does not fit the criteria that I have for what I want in a stripper as far as looks go...so I guess when I describe how well certain hustles work on me, we're assuming that the girl using them on me is a girl that I would consider buying from. To an extent, I've made my mind up to a certain degree before a girl says a word to me. If Jaizaine approached me with the lamest hustle in the world, I'd probably buy, for example....but if some girl who I had no physical attraction to at all gave me the best hustle, it'd be lost on me.
sadbuttrue
02-20-2010, 12:00 AM
Actually, I got a compliment on saying "No thank you" once. I guess I said it sweetly enough. I try to say no thank you instead of maybe later if I have no intention of dancing with the girl.
The "If I come up to you enough times, you will say yes" hustle (even I have already said No two other times. There is this one girl, (sometimes I think she is tapped) who will do this every time I come into the club. :banghead:
She's just not my type. I've never gotten a dance from her. She probably does it all night long. But I will give her that she is not in any way nasty on any refusal.
The "If I grab your junk when you pass by you owe me" hustle. I do not necessarily want every girl to grab my junk. In some of these clubs you can get most girls to do that anyway.
Not every guy that gets called an asshole is being one. There are just some girls who play that type of game or have that frustration level.
>>>Sad<<<
lolwut
05-03-2010, 01:53 PM
There is also the eye contact from the stage hustle. I know, it's odd to be having eye contact with a dancer while she is onstage, but if she locks eyes with you then it's evident to her that you 'really dig her' because you are looking at her eyes instead of zombie staring at her poonie.
From there on out, all it takes is a walk by and a tossle your hair or brush your chest and it's on.
yoda57us
05-03-2010, 04:08 PM
There is also the eye contact from the stage hustle. I know, it's odd to be having eye contact with a dancer while she is onstage...
Odd? Not in my experience. I've been reeled-in quite a few times by a pretty smile and a bit of eye contact from the stage. To be sure there are a dancers who have begun to view the stage set as an inconvenience that they have to deal with in between selling lap dances but the really smart, and especially old school girls don't see it that way. As a dancer, if you've got regulars lined up I can see how the stage is a butt pain but if you are looking for business that few minutes on stage is the fastest way to attract attention to yourself.
lolwut
05-04-2010, 12:56 PM
Odd? Not in my experience. I've been reeled-in quite a few times by a pretty smile and a bit of eye contact from the stage. To be sure there are a dancers who have begun to view the stage set as an inconvenience that they have to deal with in between selling lap dances but the really smart, and especially old school girls don't see it that way. As a dancer, if you've got regulars lined up I can see how the stage is a butt pain but if you are looking for business that few minutes on stage is the fastest way to attract attention to yourself.
Meaning that most patrons aren't ever even noticing anyone's eyes. Most are laser beamed onto the boobs or crotch...whatever is on display.
yoda57us
05-04-2010, 05:34 PM
Meaning that most patrons aren't ever even noticing anyone's eyes. Most are laser beamed onto the boobs or crotch...whatever is on display.
OK, gotcha...not me! The eyes tell you a lot more about what kind of dance you are going to get than her crotch does.
Walker
05-08-2010, 04:31 AM
The ŽI donot take no for an answerŽ approach might have some validity with one-timers or tourists. With regulars it will have a very negative effect. So you have to know when to use it.
I once got the "you must be gay" respons after saying NO the fifth time. I showed my displeasement. She apologized and we had a laugh about it. After a series of circumstances she actually altruistically helped me a great deal OTC with a problem I had. I still don't buy dances from her, but every time I tip her well. Perhaps the best hustle ever? Maybe, but I don't think so. If so, I don't care.
I always make my decisions while watching the stage: sensual movement, eye contact, a naughty smile. Nothing else can change my mind. With one exception. A stripper happened to be from my same small hometown overseas and spoke my native language. Always nice to meet somebody from home, even in a SC. ;D
The worst way to try to convince customers is with 'I promise you a discount, but will forget about it when you have to pay'. That's cheating. We went to management, and got thrown out (the first and only time I got thrown out of a SC). Still only payed the discounted price.
The ŽI donot take no for an answerŽ approach might have some validity with one-timers or tourists. With regulars it will have a very negative effect. So you have to know when to use it.
I once got the "you must be gay" respons after saying NO the fifth time. I showed my displeasement. She apologized and we had a laugh about it. After a series of circumstances she actually altruistically helped me a great deal OTC with a problem I had. I still don't buy dances from her, but every time I tip her well. Perhaps the best hustle ever? Maybe, but I don't think so. If so, I don't care.
I always make my decisions while watching the stage: sensual movement, eye contact, a naughty smile. Nothing else can change my mind. With one exception. A stripper happened to be from my same small hometown overseas and spoke my native language. Always nice to meet somebody from home, even in a SC. ;D
The worst way to try to convince customers is with 'I promise you a discount, but will forget about it when you have to pay'. That's cheating. We went to management, and got thrown out (the first and only time I got thrown out of a SC). Still only payed the discounted price.
When I'm trying to sell guys a VIP, sometimes I promise them a money back guarantee, but theres no way in hell they're getting their money back if they're not satisfied! :D
KS_Stevia
05-12-2010, 12:20 PM
There is also the eye contact from the stage hustle. I know, it's odd to be having eye contact with a dancer while she is onstage, but if she locks eyes with you then it's evident to her that you 'really dig her' because you are looking at her eyes instead of zombie staring at her poonie.
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That's a classic hustle. I love that one because I have an uncanny ability to look at a large group of people and make it appear as if I'm locking eyes with each one individually..whereas I'm staring into the void and using body language that is known to work.
This also works well during public speaking, acting, interviews, etc....
I like it because it gets custies up to the stage to tip, where the deal can be closed more effectively.
KS_Stevia
05-12-2010, 12:21 PM
Odd? Not in my experience. I've been reeled-in quite a few times by a pretty smile and a bit of eye contact from the stage. To be sure there are a dancers who have begun to view the stage set as an inconvenience that they have to deal with in between selling lap dances but the really smart, and especially old school girls don't see it that way. As a dancer, if you've got regulars lined up I can see how the stage is a butt pain but if you are looking for business that few minutes on stage is the fastest way to attract attention to yourself.
This is why its good to establish rapport and "social capital" with your club DJ. If you tip him/her well, get to know them, become club friends, then they will happily skip you when you have regulars lined up, and put you on randomly if you are having trouble drumming up business and want to market.
Doesn't work in all clubs or with all DJ's though.