View Full Version : Extras, why customers ask?
bigmarv
01-07-2010, 06:24 PM
Assuming she was hot, you got a good deal... My friend paid $300 and he just got a BJ... and not even in the VIP or Champagne room.
She was very hot and so was her dancer friend. And yes that was another $200. :)
Elvia
01-07-2010, 08:00 PM
Darlin, I'm not bragging just stating the facts that extras do happen with the right dancer. I've never once asked for any extras, but they sometimes do get offered if you spend enough time and $$$. :)
Yes, we know Marv. We're all well aware as it seems to the only point you are interested in making. Over and over again.
jack0177057
01-08-2010, 01:32 PM
I just always equated it with the truth that a lot of men see us as disposable sex dispensers, to be bought and bargained on.
Just like I hate it in real life when guys say they "got some pussy". I'm always like, 'What about the girl attached?".
Dancing lead me to a lot of conclusions, and a lot of them not good. I would hate to be seen as a "bargain"! I'd call dancers "luxury goods" over that. You don't go in to Tiffany's pick out the most beautiful necklace, and ask to get it for $300. And to me, a human being is worth way more than $300.
It's Bloomingdales kids, not the Goodwill- unless you're one of those dudes like Earl who likes that sort of shit.
True, but I'll sell you a hot night of passionate sex with me for way under $300.
But, seriously,... you're right... I didn't mean to offend.
1st_samurai
01-08-2010, 03:36 PM
well be careful. a girl fucked up on drugs did that at my club and bit the guys cock so hard he was bleeding profusely in the toilet. this was thru his jeans.
imagine explaining that one to wifey.
Now that's scary. Almost enough to completely cross off dating any girls that use drugs.
Phil-W
01-08-2010, 04:51 PM
An interesting side light on this debate. I used to post on a UK chat group and occasionally guys would brag that they'd got this or that dancer to do an extra.
I invariably used to post: "you didn't get an extra - you paid for commercial sex". And when it was put as bluntly as that, suddenly the bragging stopped.
I think it was a question of semantics: saying "I got an extra" makes a guy feel better than saying "I paid for commercial sex".
Phil.
yoda57us
01-08-2010, 05:56 PM
An interesting side light on this debate. I used to post on a UK chat group and occasionally guys would brag that they'd got this or that dancer to do an extra.
I invariably used to post: "you didn't get an extra - you paid for commercial sex". And when it was put as bluntly as that, suddenly the bragging stopped.
I think it was a question of semantics: saying "I got an extra" makes a guy feel better than saying "I paid for commercial sex".
Phil.
Yeah there is the same sort of twisted logic among a lot of guys about this. It carries over to OTC activities as well. A guy will spend thousands on a dancer trying to get her to have sex with him OTC. If she does do it she is going to charge way above the market rate because she knows this guy wants her and only her. It is so easy to hire an escort nowadays that it's just ridiculous to go through what these guys go through for a little P4P.
bigmarv
01-08-2010, 06:03 PM
An interesting side light on this debate. I used to post on a UK chat group and occasionally guys would brag that they'd got this or that dancer to do an extra.
I invariably used to post: "you didn't get an extra - you paid for commercial sex". And when it was put as bluntly as that, suddenly the bragging stopped.
I think it was a question of semantics: saying "I got an extra" makes a guy feel better than saying "I paid for commercial sex".
Phil.
Good point. That's why a guy should always let the dancer take the lead, then your only paying her for dances. :)
jaizaine
01-08-2010, 10:06 PM
Assuming she was hot, you got a good deal... My friend paid $300 and he just got a BJ... and not even in the VIP or Champagne room.
I cannot believe there are women out there who suck cock for such pittance!! If you're gonna be a whore at least charge a decent price to somewhat justify it. But these girls are probably very unfortunate looking.
Phil-W
01-09-2010, 04:18 AM
I think there's stripping and there's escorting - I don't have a problem with either, but I don't think the two should mix.
Yeah there is the same sort of twisted logic among a lot of guys about this. It carries over to OTC activities as well....It is so easy to hire an escort nowadays that it's just ridiculous to go through what these guys go through for a little P4P.
Which is why I think Yoda's attitude is healthy. He does both, but he keeps them seperate. See dancers in the club and see escorts outside of it.
Good point. That's why a guy should always let the dancer take the lead, then your only paying her for dances. :)
You are paying for commercial sex and not just dances my friend, it's just included in the price. "Buy one, get one free".
Do you think that dancer would give you an extra unless she was commercially motivated to do so? I think not. She's just smart enough to give you an 'out' so you can persuade yourself that you aren't paying for it.
Yoda is upfront in saying he pays for escorts (and good luck to him if he wants to). Why don't you say you're doing the exact same thing, but inside a SC?
Phil.
Christyismyalias
01-09-2010, 04:29 AM
Guys ask for them because girls offer and follow through with them.
If girls werent giving extras, people wouldn't ask for them.
Girls are getting desperate and doing more and more, which is why more people expect more of an experience other than DANCE...
They're only making things harder on everyone in the long run, but they don't see it like this. They're thinking about that money that second and not business in the overall scheme of things...
yoda57us
01-09-2010, 06:55 AM
I cannot believe there are women out there who suck cock for such pittance!! If you're gonna be a whore at least charge a decent price to somewhat justify it. But these girls are probably very unfortunate looking.
LOL, Damn! $300 is cheap? What's the going rate down under? I know a few girls who may want to relocate!
bigmarv
01-09-2010, 10:06 PM
I cannot believe there are women out there who suck cock for such pittance!! If you're gonna be a whore at least charge a decent price to somewhat justify it. But these girls are probably very unfortunate looking.
Every dancer who ever sucked my dick in a SC was very beautiful. Don't know where your from darlin, but in the SC I visit I'm very particular about who wraps there pretty lips around my cock. And yes she is tipped very well for her special dances, thank you very much. :)
bigmarv
01-09-2010, 10:10 PM
I think there's stripping and there's escorting - I don't have a problem with either, but I don't think the two should mix.
Which is why I think Yoda's attitude is healthy. He does both, but he keeps them seperate. See dancers in the club and see escorts outside of it.
You are paying for commercial sex and not just dances my friend, it's just included in the price. "Buy one, get one free".
Do you think that dancer would give you an extra unless she was commercially motivated to do so? I think not. She's just smart enough to give you an 'out' so you can persuade yourself that you aren't paying for it.
Yoda is upfront in saying he pays for escorts (and good luck to him if he wants to). Why don't you say you're doing the exact same thing, but inside a SC?
Phil.
I'm paying for dances. Where I live paying for any type of sex act in a SC is against the law. :)
Athenathefabulous
01-09-2010, 10:45 PM
I cannot believe there are women out there who suck cock for such pittance!! If you're gonna be a whore at least charge a decent price to somewhat justify it. But these girls are probably very unfortunate looking.
i concur. why would i suck a dick for 300$ when i could sell an hour room and make 400$ plus. it doesnt make sense. shit, i could understand if it was several thousand maybe... but 300$? Geez louise. get some sales skills!
bigmarv
01-09-2010, 11:20 PM
i concur. why would i suck a dick for 300$ when i could sell an hour room and make 400$ plus. it doesnt make sense. shit, i could understand if it was several thousand maybe... but 300$? Geez louise. get some sales skills!
Darlin I'm gald I don't live in New Orleans, because in this recession or no recession I can get a BJ for the price of a dance. And yes she is a very beautiful dancer and I am a regular. :)
mediocrity
01-10-2010, 10:30 AM
i concur. why would i suck a dick for 300$ when i could sell an hour room and make 400$ plus. it doesnt make sense. shit, i could understand if it was several thousand maybe... but 300$? Geez louise. get some sales skills!
I know, right? Shit, crack whores get $20 for a blow job. Get some self respect.
mediocrity
01-10-2010, 10:30 AM
Darlin I'm gald I don't live in New Orleans, because in this recession or no recession I can get a BJ for the price of a dance. And yes she is a very beautiful dancer and I am a regular. :)
You mean she is a very beautiful prostitute.
Phil-W
01-10-2010, 10:53 AM
I'm paying for dances. Where I live paying for any type of sex act in a SC is against the law. :)
...in this recession or no recession I can get a BJ for the price of a dance. And yes she is a very beautiful dancer and I am a regular. :)
You might be paying for 'dances', but I doubt that would provide any form of defense if you were caught in the act of having a BJ. Any court would take the view that you had the option of stopping the dancer when she suggested it, and having said BJ made you an accomplice after the fact.
However you dress it up it's commercial sex. If the dancer had any form of genuine attraction towards/affection for you, she would have suggested you met her outside of the venue, be it as a f*ck buddy or bf/gf.
You mean she is a very beautiful prostitute.
The legal position entirely.
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My view of prostitution is simple: it's an activity between two consenting adults that brings harm of hurt to no-one and as such should be allowed. However, I do believe prostitution and SC's should not mix.
Phil.
yoda57us
01-10-2010, 11:33 AM
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that bigmarv keeps putting these
:) after all of his posts because he knows exactly what he is paying for...
yoda57us
01-10-2010, 11:35 AM
I know, right? Shit, crack whores get $20 for a blow job. Get some self respect.
Fortunately self respect is something that a woman has regardless of what she does, what she charges for it, or what others think of it...
mediocrity
01-10-2010, 11:48 AM
Fortunately self respect is something that a woman has regardless of what she does, what she charges for it, or what others think of it...
I have difficulty imagining that a woman who blows strangers for $20 has any self respect. I mean you'd have to blow 5 dudes for a measly $100! If your rent was even $400 a month, you'd have to suck 20 strange cocks. I don't even suck one strange cock a month for free in my personal life.
The whole concept has me WTF'ing all over the place. Retirement has brought a lot of things into perspective for me.
yoda57us
01-10-2010, 12:04 PM
I have difficulty imagining that a woman who blows strangers for $20 has any self respect. I mean you'd have to blow 5 dudes for a measly $100! If your rent was even $400 a month, you'd have to suck 20 strange cocks. I don't even suck one strange cock a month for free in my personal life.
Math equations aside, what a woman does to pay her bills is her own business. We are all entitled to our opinions about it of course.
bigmarv
01-10-2010, 04:52 PM
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that bigmarv keeps putting these
:) after all of his posts because he knows exactly what he is paying for...
Yes indeed! I'm gladly paying for a very good time at my local SC, that's why I have a smile on my face. :)
bigmarv
01-10-2010, 05:05 PM
You mean she is a very beautiful prostitute.
No, but she is a very beautiful escort. Prostitution is against the law. :)
bigmarv
01-10-2010, 05:19 PM
I have difficulty imagining that a woman who blows strangers for $20 has any self respect. I mean you'd have to blow 5 dudes for a measly $100! If your rent was even $400 a month, you'd have to suck 20 strange cocks. I don't even suck one strange cock a month for free in my personal life.
The whole concept has me WTF'ing all over the place. Retirement has brought a lot of things into perspective for me.
I always give the dancer a nice tip. Besides a smart discreet dancer will only give extras to well known regulars. :)
mediocrity
01-10-2010, 08:49 PM
I always give the dancer a nice tip. Besides a smart discreet dancer will only give extras to well known regulars. :)
That's what they all want you to think. I've seen quite the opposite.
bigmarv
01-10-2010, 09:12 PM
That's what they all want you to think. I've seen quite the opposite.
Well in those cases, it must have been love at first sight. I mean after all what self respecting dancer would ever give a BJ to a strange customer. :)
mediocrity
01-10-2010, 09:31 PM
Well in those cases, it must have been love at first sight. I mean after all what self respecting dancer would ever give a BJ to a strange customer. :)
Thanks for giving me a reason to bang my head against the wall instead of anticipating my lovely visitors tomorrow.
yoda57us
01-10-2010, 09:48 PM
I always give the dancer a nice tip. Besides a smart discreet dancer will only give extras to well known regulars. :)
Sorry BM but, smiley face or not, you lost me on this one...
The first, second and third biggest strip club lies in no particular order are "I only do this for you", "I usually get double for this" and "don't tell the other girls I did that". Don't worry about #3 though...the other girls already know...
If she did it for you she did it for the guy before you...and the guy before him...and so on...
Semantics games are one thing but don't kid yourself. There are very few selective extras girls.:)
bigmarv
01-10-2010, 09:53 PM
Thanks for giving me a reason to bang my head against the wall instead of anticipating my lovely visitors tomorrow.
Your welcome darlin. By the way what club do you dance at in Austin?
mediocrity
01-10-2010, 09:57 PM
Your welcome darlin. By the way what club do you dance at in Austin?
I have just retired, thankyouverymuch.
And if you are implying something about my character or razzing me to imply you might come and get something "special" from me were I not retired, you can fuck right the hell off.
bigmarv
01-10-2010, 10:07 PM
I have just retired, thankyouverymuch.
And if you are implying something about my character or razzing me to imply you might come and get something "special" from me were I not retired, you can fuck right the hell off.
Darlin, I live about 500 miles away from Austin, TX, so I really don't think that is very likely to happen. :)
mediocrity
01-10-2010, 10:10 PM
Stop calling me darlin, because you are only doing that to get under my skin. Matter of fact, this whole back and forth with me was deliberately done to get under my skin. You know full well asking me were I dance even though you had no intention of coming et al was just to upset me.
I retired because I am sick of this treatment, especially in real life. So many of you customers get such a kick out of making us frustrated, or feel bad about ourselves, or question ourselves, make us angry.
Yeah, it's just the internet. But it's not all about that for me- I also got sick of hearing I was "just a stripper", and your attitude and insistance on making me frazzled and upset is really disenchanting. I am experiencing a lot of emotions from my recent retirement that are new to me that I haven't come to grips with yet so leave me alone.
Find someone else to bully. Jerk.
bigmarv
01-10-2010, 10:24 PM
Sorry BM but, smiley face or not, you lost me on this one...
The first, second and third biggest strip club lies in no particular order are "I only do this for you", "I usually get double for this" and "don't tell the other girls I did that". Don't worry about #3 though...the other girls already know...
If she did it for you she did it for the guy before you...and the guy before him...and so on...
Semantics games are one thing but don't kid yourself. There are very few selective extras girls.:)
Yoda, I've never had any dancers ever use those lines on me before. I'm not trying to be a difficult person, but my experiences in SC's have mostly been positive and I usually have a very good time with the extras girls. :)
yoda57us
01-10-2010, 10:31 PM
Yoda, I've never had any dancers ever use those lines on me before. I'm not trying to be a difficult person, but my experiences in SC's have mostly been positive and I usually have a very good time with the extras girls. :)
My experiences have been mostly positive as well marv and I have had my share of fun with extras girls. I just don't kid myself about what there motivation is.
bigmarv
01-10-2010, 10:44 PM
Stop calling me darlin, because you are only doing that to get under my skin. Matter of fact, this whole back and forth with me was deliberately done to get under my skin. You know full well asking me were I dance even though you had no intention of coming et al was just to upset me.
I retired because I am sick of this treatment, especially in real life. So many of you customers get such a kick out of making us frustrated, or feel bad about ourselves, or question ourselves, make us angry.
Yeah, it's just the internet. But it's not all about that for me- I also got sick of hearing I was "just a stripper", and your attitude and insistance on making me frazzled and upset is really disenchanting. I am experiencing a lot of emotions from my recent retirement that are new to me that I haven't come to grips with yet so leave me alone.
Find someone else to bully. Jerk.
Mediocrity, I never meant to offend you, but if I did I apologize. I personally have a lot of respect for dancers, especially the ones that are single mom's.
Vivianna
01-10-2010, 10:46 PM
well be careful. a girl fucked up on drugs did that at my club and bit the guys cock so hard he was bleeding profusely in the toilet. this was thru his jeans.
imagine explaining that one to wifey.
Wow that one gave me a good laugh!
bigmarv
01-10-2010, 10:53 PM
My experiences have been mostly positive as well marv and I have had my share of fun with extras girls. I just don't kid myself about what there motivation is.
Me neither, $$$. :)
lilmisssunshine
01-10-2010, 11:14 PM
The darlin thing is creepy.
bigmarv
01-10-2010, 11:37 PM
The darlin thing is creepy.
I could change it to sweetie. :)
jaizaine
01-11-2010, 12:17 AM
LOL, Damn! $300 is cheap? What's the going rate down under? I know a few girls who may want to relocate!
I don't know I'm not a whore ;D but I can easily make over $1k a night just giving standard dances with no touching so I was sort of comparing that to $300 for sucking cock and I thought no way that doesn't sound like a good deal haha.
jaizaine
01-11-2010, 12:21 AM
Every dancer who ever sucked my dick in a SC was very beautiful. Don't know where your from darlin, but in the SC I visit I'm very particular about who wraps there pretty lips around my cock. And yes she is tipped very well for her special dances, thank you very much. :)
Dude paying someone to suck your cock is not bragworthy, believe me. If you can get them for free yeh maybe brag. But you are paying some poor, desperate chick to endure sucking on it and that is sad not bragworthy. I feel sorry for anyone who thinks otherwise.
mediocrity
01-11-2010, 12:24 AM
I could change it to sweetie. :)
mediocrity or C works just fine.
bigmarv
01-11-2010, 01:35 AM
Dude paying someone to suck your cock is not bragworthy, believe me. If you can get them for free yeh maybe brag. But you are paying some poor, desperate chick to endure sucking on it and that is sad not bragworthy. I feel sorry for anyone who thinks otherwise.
Darlin, I'm only paying for dances. I didn't ask her to pull my dick out of my pants and start giving me a very nice BJ. :)
bigmarv
01-11-2010, 01:39 AM
mediocrity or C works just fine.
I will respect your request. What does C stand for?
mediocrity
01-11-2010, 02:37 AM
I will respect your request. What does C stand for?
Catherine. Pronounced Cah-THA-ren, as opposed to kath-ren.
Jessie_tinydancer
01-11-2010, 02:54 AM
Darlin I'm gald I don't live in New Orleans, because in this recession or no recession I can get a BJ for the price of a dance. And yes she is a very beautiful dancer and I am a regular. :)
A very beautiful dancer with no self respect and probably the intelligence level of shoe. Congratulations on helping a beautiful woman do something she will probably regret for the rest of her life. I'm sure she will later cry about you in her therapy sessions or use your money to buy her drugs so she can try and purge the rank taste of your penis from her brain.
yoda57us
01-11-2010, 04:13 AM
I don't know I'm not a whore ;D but I can easily make over $1k a night just giving standard dances with no touching so I was sort of comparing that to $300 for sucking cock and I thought no way that doesn't sound like a good deal haha.
Well, you are assuming that the lady who is doing the sucking only does it once all night. If she sucks four cocks she has made $1200 in a shift.
I'm not trying to say that extras girls make more money than clean dancers. I go to a variety of different types f clubs and I also pay escorts. The possible earnings are about the same for a clean dancer, a dirty dancer and an escort if a lady is good at her job and is willing to work hard.
Jessie_tinydancer
01-11-2010, 04:36 AM
^ I think the point is a clean dancer does not have to suck 4 sticky dinkys and can go home knowing that she hasn't done anything a) illegal or b) she is not comfortable with.
yoda57us
01-11-2010, 07:08 AM
^ I think the point is a clean dancer does not have to suck 4 sticky dinkys and can go home knowing that she hasn't done anything a) illegal or b) she is not comfortable with.
Well, that's your point and it is certainly valid but honestly I think anyone with common sense and any experience in clubs already understands that. I was simply asking a question based on curiosity as it related to a post by a dancer. It was not any sort of implied suggestion that anyone should do anything that they are not comfortable doing. Trust me I've spent a lot more on clean dancers over the years than I ever have on extras.