View Full Version : Why do you ask if we are "all about the money"?
Christyismyalias
12-13-2009, 11:18 PM
Funny, the only guys who have ever said this to me made it clear they were the worst kind of douchebag long before they uttered that. Usually right off the bat. I've only gotten this from guys who came in with a nasty attitude and we're obviously intent on holding onto it. I don't consider them real customers anyway.
Exactly. These are guys that forget this is a business and transactions occur. They want to get the attention and the fun and everything, but don't want to remember it comes at a cost. They dont just take it for what it is and go with it... usually they are just a waste of time, b/c yes, when at work it is all about the money-just like anyone else at work!
Regardless of the fact that I do love my job and have fun with it, bottom line is if I don't work hard I don't make money. I don't have time for people who just want to give grief.
So have you men on here actually said this to a dancer? Was there money spent on the girl? Is it a common thing you say?
What do you ladies say to these delusional customers that ask if you are all about the money?
Probably just move on to the next. If a guy is talking like this, it is likely he's not going to be spending.
Earl_the_Pearl
12-14-2009, 12:07 AM
So have you men on here actually said this to a dancer? Was there money spent on the girl? Is it a common thing you say?
That has been addressed.
To the OP the PLs that post here would not ask that question; It is asked by a PL that just got hit in the face with reality.
deluc
05-29-2010, 09:14 PM
Only the Asshats among us ask that.
Any realist KNOWS that you're in it for the money, just like any other working-class putz in the world is in it for the bankroll.
JoeUnCool
05-31-2010, 06:55 AM
Only the Asshats among us ask that.
Any realist KNOWS that you're in it for the money, just like any other working-class putz in the world is in it for the bankroll.
Quit telling the truth. The truth is not allowed on this "support site."
Sophia_Starina
06-01-2010, 02:02 AM
So I have to ask: why do customers tell us, usually in a nasty tone, that we are "all about the money"?
Maybe because some guys get turned on by chicks that lie. }:D
jasmine22
06-01-2010, 02:27 AM
Now, you ladies love to pretend that you are salespeople, but this site literally overfloweth with nothing but disdain, bile and even hatred for your target group. Post after post bragging about stealing a customer's wallet, credit cards, encouraging bait & switch activities, taking advantage of a drunken customer, etc. Sorry, but that's not just stripper FAIL, it's life FAIL and karma FAIL. (Sorry, no rationalizations about mileage, etc. justify this behavior.)
If you get many customers asking you that "why are you all about the money" question, then it's you, not them. The training I did for my contractors and their salesforce taught them (to simplify a 4-day bootcamp process) to start selling exactly what their customers said they wanted, not what they thought they could get from the customers, or what they thought the customer could afford. And you know what? To a man (and woman) who adopted these methods, they not only increased their average ticket often by 100% or more, and increased their closing percentage substantially, but the customer was thrilled to pay it, thanked them for being so nice, and their own sales burnout was eliminated.
Just some food for thought.
CP
The adult industry is different from any other industry. We do sell the customers what they want.....a fantasy. So our job is more acting than dancing. I agree stealing wallets and credit cards are wrong and illegal......but giving extras in the club are also illegal(so I guess it we can't or shouldnt sell customers EXACTLY what they want all the time now can we?)
You think that most sales people LOVE their target group, no, how can you love strangers? Pretending you like them or give a shit are part of the game, also these men get crazy when theyre drunk. Do your contractors deal with horny and drunk men on a daily basis? so yes, we deal w customers differently bc we have to.
I found your post to be condescending and rude chilipalmer. I dont hate the men who come in the club at all, and I'm sure a lot of other girls on here feel the same way. I look at everyone on an individual basis.
Oh and to the OP, the only customers who have ever asked me anything about $$ were cheap asses.
rickdugan
06-01-2010, 11:20 AM
^^^I don't think CP was being condescending - maybe a little over the top, but IMHO his message was right. I own multiple businesses which require me to sell constantly, and I agree with CP that attitude and attention are everything. I'm not saying that all girls who work in clubs cannot sell (there are some that sell me very well), but I am amazed at how many girls I see with 0 sales skills.
In any sale, the key to success is to get out of your own head and into the head of the target, which is impossible if you are trapped in your own mind by bitterness, anger and pre-existing assumptions.
His point is to listen (to what is being said but also the guy's body language and emotional state), learn to overcome objections and sell what he really wants. If it is sex, then obviously a no go. But how many guys go into clubs who want to feel special and to get attention from a pretty girl? How many others want other things beside just a quickie in a back room? In any room full of people you will find a variety of wants and needs.
I would add to his points with: cultivate. A non-sale now may be a good sale later if you don't dust him off the first time he says no. In a club full of guys drinking alcohol, that philosophy may work even better as the night wears on :)
As an example, I recently went to a club where the girls did the "wanna dance" rounds, finished the circuit empty and then sat down at the bar frowning - or just disappeared into the dressing room. This club was FULL OF GUYS, many in suits and sitting without company. Was there nobody out there who would have tipped for time or could eventually have been coaxed into dances? Perhaps even one guy who could have become a regular with a little attention? Every moment is a precious one, and in my business if I have no sale in hand then I am cultivating future sales. One thing I can promise is that no sale is being made in a dressing room.
I'm not trying to tell anyone how to do their jobs, but some of what CP said is just common sense.
KS_Stevia
06-02-2010, 03:12 PM
The girls have 0 sales skills because there is no requirement to have any sales knowledge to become a stripper. Every stripper gets a few lucky nights here and there where a few custies will be enamored with her looks, body,etc. And those nights still come out to making more than minimum wage at the mall. So, they keep coming back, sitting on their asses, taking up space with good custies that want to spend on ME....just hoping the custies will do the asking and make the sale easy.
In any other industry, these girls would be let go, as they are causing the sales organization money. Not so in the SC.
girlundressed
06-08-2010, 12:23 PM
To Chili Palmer:
First off, pardon me, but I did not read past maybe the first page of this post before wanting to write this, so if my statements would be nullified by something else you have posted later on, I apologize.
I agree with you. Sales work much better when you are trying to give the customer what they want and when you honestly care about the customer. My favorite customers always turn into repeat customers because they are easy to care about. However, there are some customers who offend me so completely, that I just can't get myself to truly care about them getting exactly what they want. There are also some customers who want things that I don't want to give, so I can walk away.
Stripping is slightly different from a normal sales job in that we are selling ourselves (or more often, fantasies of ourselves). It means that we are responsible for the product, us, being up to a customer's expectations. It can be hard to be happy or sexy for someone you just don't feel comfortable with.
I think the difference in your type of sales and the sales Paris and I do are in the product. You don't have to worry about what comes after the sale. If you are selling puppies, and your customer is known for torturing animals, are you really going to care about them?
I think you and Paris are both right when you can come to a compromise. Caring for the customer instead of for you own wallet is a much better strategy, but finding a middle ground between caring for the customer and caring for the product is the best way to go.
I hope my tired ramblings came out with some sense.
P.S. About when customers ask why it's all about the money....it's either that you're hustle wasn't good enough to actually take care of his needs (at least pretend friendship, love, lust, interest, etc.) and he feels like it was just about you and you getting his money or he is a grumpy customer. I've had guys say things like that to me before I could even sit down to chat. Sometimes a guy has a bad experience and takes it out on you. If you feel you are doing your job right, then just let the bad comments slide off of you and keep going.
girlundressed
06-08-2010, 12:39 PM
Here's another thread where a dancer asks us patrons a question and other dancers jump in to answer the question and argue with us patrons. :P
And asking for the moderators to prevent this is pointless since one of the moderators is one of those that has jumped in and is hostilely and aggressively arguing with us patrons. :(
I wonder if us blue siders did the same on the pink side if we end up being banned. /:O
Ugh, you're right. I'm totally guilty. Opps! I'll try to keep arguments down on the blue side. That does seem a little more fair.
rickdugan
06-08-2010, 05:16 PM
Ugh, you're right. I'm totally guilty. Opps! I'll try to keep arguments down on the blue side. That does seem a little more fair.
All you did was share your opinion - you have no reason to be sorry. I am actually curious about the dancers' opinions of some of these posts and there is nothing wrong with a little back and forth on a topic.
girlundressed
06-08-2010, 08:23 PM
Well, was my first time checking the blue side out, and since someone complained I wanted to make sure I wasn't ruining the man cave or anything lol. It does seem like a lot of the dancers pipe in over here and if that annoys people in general than I don't mind removing myself from the problem. I deal with enough confrontation at work, no reason to bring that into a happy little sanctuary.
Good to hear that I wasn't part of the problem though. Thanks rickdugan.
fuzzz
06-22-2010, 05:19 PM
I guess this is why you "Never mix business with pleasure."