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charlie61
12-18-2009, 03:36 AM
^ Yeah, but that's like saying that lesbians who fuck each other with a dildo are assuming the role of a guy. I'm thinking not many lesbians want to fuck guys. So in your case, it's probably a huge mental block. I'm standing by the 'if it's a woman, it's a woman' thing. If you're closing your eyes with a woman and pretending she's a man fucking you, that's a different issue.

I'm not pickin' on you though. If you aren't into it, that's just as normal as being into it.

Djoser
12-18-2009, 04:52 AM
Hmmm, mental block--I don't think so--but if it is, it's a mental block the vast majority of guys are going to have as well. But to clarify, I am not saying a guy who likes it is gay, if he has no desire for a man to do it.

This is interesting, though. Now I am wondering how many women want to do it to the guy, like what percentage. I mean full-on strapon, not the prostrate massage.

I was in the dressing room of my last club about two years ago and one of the hottest dancers I have ever worked with, Trouble, asked me if I would let her do it if we were fucking. I said no way. She then claimed she'd done it to every guy she'd ever been with for a while. I'm inclined to believe her.

charlie61
12-18-2009, 07:17 AM
^ Yeeaaah...I think you'd be very very surprised at how many guys are into that (and I'd be guessing the vast majority would be into it if there weren't such a stigma in our culture against it).

I mean, think about it: you wouldn't exactly be the one to know about if it's a common phenomenon. A good number of guys I've met have openly mentioned that (presumably b/c I'm a chick, I believe they're straight, and so they feel more comfortable speaking about it)...not to mention the ones who keep their secret closer to their chests.

jack0177057
12-18-2009, 08:51 AM
I'm not debating this anymore (its been beaten to death), but I just want to point how interesting and ironic it is that the prostrate gland (aka "male g-spot") is in men's butt and the sexual pleasure center for women is usually outside the vagina in the clitoris (refer to the G-Spot Myth thread for more on that). Nature is playing a practical joke on us? End threadjack.

princessjas
12-18-2009, 09:15 AM
^^That is funny! Oh, and I have to respond to this one thing. I've been to busy to write it up, but here goes.

Now granted as a bisexual woman I might not be the correct person to give an opinion on this, but I don't think truly straight peeps can be "swayed." Not at all! It's GROSS to kiss someone you aren't attracted too! It has become "cool" to be bisexual and tons of very drunk, very immature girls are kissing their friends to impress guys, I know. This doesn't make them bisexual though, just retarded!

I remember one girl saying it was fun to kiss her friends while drunk, but as appealing as kissing the back of her hand. I'd personally say zero sexual stimulation from kissing a same sex partner means you are pretty damn straight, regardless of how many times you do it. (Yes, you can debate that maybe THAT girl just didn't do it for her, but most of us will find a reasonable portion of our prefered sex attractive enough to feel something while kissing them.)

Oh, and another point..I also think those that are terrified of being gay/liking gay activities tend to be in denial about their own sexuality. Just my own experience talking there.

ETA - Had to comment about guys liking the strap on thing. I have had a low number of partners, but they were very adventurous and I've never been with a guy that wanted penetration. Rimming, yep, anything up their butts, not really. I'm open minded too, so I doubt anyone would think I'd judge them. My two college roomies were also huge sluts and I heard all sortsa crazy shit, but only heard of this once and it was a dildo, not a strap on, so I'm not so sure about the insistence of this being super prevalent.

Earl_the_Pearl
12-18-2009, 09:39 AM
^ Wrong! It's relatively common for open-minded straight men to enjoy prostate play. Check out the Bend Over Boyfriend phenomenon.
Their mind isn't the only thing that is open.

lemmiwinks31
12-18-2009, 11:49 AM
Wow...learn something new everyday.


So I guess that women who like it up the ass have latent desire to be a gay man.

princessjas
12-18-2009, 11:53 AM
Wow...learn something new everyday.


So I guess that women who like it up the ass have latent desire to be a gay man.

:rotfl: Oh, of course! Now I get why I've always felt misunderstood! I'm really a gay man trapped in this girlie little body! }:D

Trem
12-18-2009, 11:54 AM
:rotfl: Oh, of course! Now I get why I've always felt misunderstood! I'm really a gay man trapped in this girlie little body! }:D

Well i just found out i've been gaying myself up with my hand for years so we should totally be gay together.

lemmiwinks31
12-18-2009, 11:56 AM
Hmmm, mental block--I don't think so--but if it is, it's a mental block the vast majority of guys are going to have as well.


just curious, how many guys have you talked to about anal strapon fucking in order to reach this conclusion? What was your sample size? And do you carry around a survey or does it just come up in conversation?

lemmiwinks31
12-18-2009, 11:57 AM
Well i just found out i've been gaying myself up with my hand for years so we should totally be gay together.


A while ago....i accidentally got a little gay when my finger broke through the toilet paper.

Djoser
12-18-2009, 03:00 PM
Hmmm, mental block--I don't think so--but if it is, it's a mental block the vast majority of guys are going to have as well.


just curious, how many guys have you talked to about anal strapon fucking in order to reach this conclusion? What was your sample size? And do you carry around a survey or does it just come up in conversation?

No, I make every guy that requests a song fill out a full 'Am I gay or do I just like to get fucked up the ass?' Survey at the DJ booth. Then for a small additional fee I let the dancers know who wants to get fucked up the ass, so they can work the guys.

There's still no buttsex in the Champagne Room, though...

threlayer
12-18-2009, 06:13 PM
...but I just want to point how interesting and ironic it is that the prostrate gland (aka "male g-spot") is in men's butt and the sexual pleasure center for women is usually outside the vagina in the clitoris (refer to the G-Spot Myth thread for more on that). Nature is playing a practical joke on us?...

This is not quite accurate. The prostate is accessible thru the large intestine (had it checked recently?), but it is NOT inside it. The G-spot is accessible thru the vagina wall, but is not inside it. Both can be used give enough stimulation to produce orgasm in some people

jack0177057
12-18-2009, 07:16 PM
^^^
To get to the "male g-spot" part of the prostrate, you have to probe the anus.
http://www.askmen.com/dating/vanessa/23_love_secrets.html

My question to mother nature --- WTF?

The female "g-spot" is mostly myth. There are some women (very few it seems) that have sensitivity in that area, but it is actually the root of the clitoris.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19453931

The Journal of Sexual Medicine 2009, vol. 6, no5, pp. 1223-1231 explained that the "G-spot" is actually the root of the clitoris. The clitoris is more than just the "love bud" or "nubbin" that is on the outside. It consists of a bundle of nerves on the inside that loop down so it is very close to the anterior wall (front) of the vaginal canal on the interior side of the pubic bone.

I've been trying to find it for years and have just about given up on it. Exterior clitoral stimulation is the most reliable way to get a girl off.

Again, I ask mother nature --- WTF?

Djoser
12-18-2009, 09:33 PM
Not a myth at all, but quite variable.

I got lucky with my third girlfriend, whom I have mentioned before. When she got going she would 'push out' and there was quite simply no missing it. I've seen similar since but nothing quite so pronounced. Phenomenal...

TarsTone
12-19-2009, 01:37 AM
It's funny. People have given a range of answers based on what makes sense to them, with a few girls offering first hand experience with men who enjoy this act, confirming that at least some men who engage in it are bisexual. Not one of them suggested it was bad, immoral, or icky. Strangely, the only people who seem to have a problem with anything are those who are insistent on the act being perfectly straight.:D

The question, is why would you get so pissed off unless you really thought something was wrong with being gay or bisexual?/:O.... With all these accusations of 'homophobia' and 'fear of being gay' being thrown around, shouldn't some of you be looking in the mirror?

Earl_the_Pearl
12-19-2009, 05:03 AM
It's funny. People have given a range of answers based on what makes sense to them, with a few girls offering first hand experience with men who enjoy this act,

One must remember that the women that post are in eccentric relationships. Ask the wives who belong to the PTA with a house with a white picket fence how many of their men want a phallic rammed up their rectum.

princessjas
12-19-2009, 08:25 AM
One must remember that the women that post are in eccentric relationships. Ask the wives who belong to the PTA with a house with a white picket fence how many of their men want a phallic rammed up their rectum.

You do know I'm a PTA mom that for another few days lives in a McMansion in a neighborhood that is a little too upscale to truly be a "white picket fence" kinda place? I'm as normal and boring as can be from all outward appearances...hmm, I wonder how many other "soccer mom's" are like me.?.?.with alternative sex lives behind cloesd doors. :-\

Earl_the_Pearl
12-19-2009, 09:00 AM
I wonder how many other "soccer mom's" are like me.?.?.with alternative sex lives behind cloesd doors. :-\
This isn't about a soccer mom's peccadilloes, it is about guys that like a phallic rammed up their rectum in a way that resembles homosexual activity.

BTW if I chose to believe something it is my right as an American; you may not agree with it but I would hope you would defend my right to believe what I want.

In the US of A whack jobs have the freedom to protest at the burials of servicemen who made the ultimate sacrifice so those very whack jobs can have the right to disrupt their funeral.


http://fromtheleft.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/wbc.jpg

charlie61
12-19-2009, 10:23 AM
One must remember that the women that post are in eccentric relationships. Ask the wives who belong to the PTA with a house with a white picket fence how many of their men want a phallic rammed up their rectum.

Perhaps this is true. Yet how many of these guys are just afraid to try, afraid to ask their wives (for the stigma), unaware that such a thing exists, etc. etc.?

kittygirl
12-19-2009, 08:59 PM
Nicole 84

How can you say that women can get off during rape?

Your sources? Is it you?

That's a load. I haven't read the rest of the posts since then, but I call you out anyway.

Yeah. women get off on violence - is that your reasoning.

TELL US YOUR STORY OF RAPE, OR ASK RAPE VICTIMS.

REPREHENSIBLE.

I don't mind if it's your story but please clarify. Even my brother knows better than to push this idea.

That's wishful thinking, until you've been raped. My brother is case in point that men can be more feminist than women.

Til a man throws you down, threatens to kill you, makes you bleed, and you get off. Gee, I guess that means you're liberated.

Even my brother would think that's whack.

I can't believe those women thanked your post. Please explain yourselves. You are so worried if your boyfriends being gay you're willing to sell out rape victims for bullshit.

kittygirl
12-19-2009, 09:28 PM
Perhaps getting fucked up the ass is more about submission, which goes along with femme gay culture.

I think the women who do it want to be more submissive than even this culture provides.

Waiting for the flame.

But seriously, you women let Nicole's rape comment slide to prove your partners aren't gay?

How lame. No, how fucked up.

This has gone beyond stupid. Fuck your men up the ass, but to let a woman say some women get off on being for real raped, you have problems.

Thank god for all my boyfriends, my brother, and my dad and I don't care if they like ass fucking. Rape is rape. and it should have nothing to do with ass fucking like this. But, obviously you think its OK, enough to think you should thank them. (See all women who thanked Nicole 84 for her rape comments)

Back to the days of Kat**** where anything men like , who are self-esteem challenged, is what women like. Sleep well.

Men, seems to me these women will do any thing to please for their own self-esteem problems. Some think self-esteem turns off men. I never said I wasn't kinky, but this is over the top.

Djoser
12-19-2009, 10:42 PM
Kittygirl, I understand how shocking it sounds. I had a hard time believing it would be possible, but I have heard this is true as well--though I have my doubts that it is a frequent thing at all. It does nothing to diminish the horror and shock of brutal assault.

I deleted your thread asking how many women who have been raped had orgasm. I don't think anyone here condones or forgives rape in any way shape or form. Try to calm down, please...

kittygirl
12-19-2009, 10:49 PM
Thanks for your "try to calm down please". Where have you heard this? and that was the point of my thread.

If it makes some feel better, fine. I wanted to poll everyone, but you cut that short.

I guarantee that was a post to deflect from gay strap on sex.

So, I ask here how many women have gotten turned on while raped?

If it threatens your greater well being, cancel my post.

That says more about you than the words I put together.

Is this taboo on a website mostly for women, or only those who don't agree?

kittygirl
12-19-2009, 11:10 PM
Kittygirl, I understand how shocking it sounds. I had a hard time believing it would be possible, but I have heard this is true as well--though I have my doubts that it is a frequent thing at all. It does nothing to diminish the horror and shock of brutal assault.

I deleted your thread asking how many women who have been raped had orgasm. I don't think anyone here condones or forgives rape in any way shape or form. Try to calm down, please...

I am not sure why you deleted my thread.

I thought it was a legitimate question for women, which this board is meant to serve.

"Try to calm down please". Why because some women you have talked to said they liked rape?

Most women I have spoken to said that wasn't the case. Does that make it a bad thread? I have spoken to drug addicts, homeless, professionals, mothers, doctors, psychologists.

I'm glad some women you know enjoyed it. I think it's a great minority.

So, you close down my thread. I guess my question is too inflammatory.

So are you saying that the women you spoke to who enjoyed rape supercede our members. Please remember this is a board geared towards women.

I still don't understand your motives. Most women here consider rape a big deal.

Or are you saying one male moderator supercedes that?

Djoser
12-19-2009, 11:57 PM
Yeah I closed your thread. It was inflammatory. The only reason I am not pointing you for starting another one is the sensitive nature of the issue.

I think rape is horrible and would kill any man who raped anyone close to me. What the hell else do you want?

I never spoke to anyone who had an orgasm while being raped, no. But I have read that it has occasionally occurred. Because I read this has happened (which surprised the hell out of me) does not mean that I support rape or rapists, OK?

I repeat, calm down about this.

kittygirl
12-20-2009, 12:02 AM
You READ?

Enough said.

Let women decide. Even my brother would call this out. And he's not always so understanding, but he bases his opinions on rape on real women.

Lost a lot of respect. READ???

Djoser
12-20-2009, 12:11 AM
Yes I read it. I did not write the article, I did not rape anyone, I do not support fucking rapists. I repeat, I would kill anyone who raped anyone close to me. I believe rapists should be executed, not jailed.

I repeat, calm the hell down.

Djoser
12-20-2009, 12:22 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orgasm

"Involuntary orgasms

Orgasms can happen as the result of forced sexual contact as during rape or sexual assault, and are often associated with feelings of shame caused by internalization of victim-blaming attitudes.[12][13] The incidence of those who experience unsolicited sexual contact and experience orgasm is very low, though possibly underreported due to shame or embarrassment. Involuntary orgasms can happen regardless of gender."

Go sue Wilkpedia if you don't like what they wrote. I suggest you stop antagonizing people who think rape is a disgusting, heinous crime. Keep your inflammatory posts under control, or I will point you.

kittygirl
12-20-2009, 12:29 AM
I encourage other people to read this.

Why do I need to calm down? Inflammatory, hateful language or just passion?

After someone rapes you and you are so courteous what would make me say calm down?

Only if it felt better not to beleive you. Or, I had a vested interest in not believing you.

Please remember you joined a website for mostly women, I would never say that some men enjoyed being raped, there is a thing called sex any way you like it.

Women also will say things to please a man, like yourself.

But if you really believe it, let them offer themselves for pleasure for what destroys the rest of us. I doubt it either way.

The only way I could believe it is if they had a long history of sexual abuse.

Do you want to be the person saying this. What if it wasn't anonymous?

Djoser
12-20-2009, 12:37 AM
I have no problem quoting an article written by Wilkpedia which says that something this weird could happen as a result of a horrible crime.

It does not mean that I condone rape in any way, shape, or form.

You need to calm down, yes--instead of attacking people for referring to what has been written about strange and terrible things.

Djoser
12-20-2009, 02:47 AM
Alright, we are reopening the thread now that things have calmed down.

kittygirl
12-20-2009, 03:20 AM
I didn't know Wikipedia was the authority on women's sexuality...

Please explain.

Are you happy now? That everyone's afraid to question you?

Over a Wikipedia article?

That's so stupid.

dangerousdiva
12-20-2009, 03:35 AM
I have also read that some women who have been raped may have suffered an involuntary orgasm as well. They were still raped! Their bodies just had a physiological reaction disconnected from their psyche.

I think I once saw a similar Law & Order SVU episode. Where a male stripper was gang raped at a bachelorette party. The argument was that men couldn't get raped by women because it would have to be consensual since his body responded (got hard) in order for penetration to occur. However, it was still rape regardless of his bodies response because he was still NOT consenting.

Have I muddied the waters more?

I don't think any women who has been truly raped enjoyed it. Regardless if her body had a physiological response and orgasmed. It is rare, but yes, it has happened and has been documented. I think it's prudent to be careful about putting that information out there because sickos can glom on to it and may start deluding themselves thinking that rape is not brutal violence. Also, think of the victims how it must fuck with their heads even more. Probably adding more misplaced shame and guilt.

Rape is determined by consent not whether you had an orgasm or not. Having an orgasm does not grant consent.

Djoser
12-20-2009, 04:03 AM
Where have you heard this? and that was the point of my thread.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orgasm




...moderators like the idea some women enjoy being raped.


DJoser, please do the rest publicly...

Ask and you shall receive.

I deleted a thread in which you attacked a female member for mentioning that involuntary orgasms were possible. You then started another thread doing the same thing. I did not warn or point you but asked you repeatedly to calm down. Instead you became more inflammatory and insulting, and continued to stir up trouble about the issue.

I closed the 'Strapon' thread twice to attempt to keep your inflammatory and insulting behavior from continuing. Both times I reopened it you continued to post inflammatory replies.

After receiving a warning, without points--which anyone else would have gotten 2-3 times over, but I refrained from giving you due to your having been a victim in the past--you then continued to post inflammatory replies, and then accused me of liking the idea of rape.

You have therefore been awarded points for mishandling a moderation issue, cross posting, and insulting other members.

princessjas
12-20-2009, 08:35 AM
Ask and you shall receive.

I deleted a thread in which you attacked a female member for mentioning that involuntary orgasms were possible. You then started another thread doing the same thing. I did not warn or point you but asked you repeatedly to calm down. Instead you became more inflammatory and insulting, and continued to stir up trouble about the issue.

I closed the 'Strapon' thread twice to attempt to keep your inflammatory and insulting behavior from continuing. Both times I reopened it you continued to post inflammatory replies.

After receiving a warning, without points--which anyone else would have gotten 2-3 times over, but I refrained from giving you due to your having been a victim in the past--you then continued to post inflammatory replies, and then accused me of liking the idea of rape.

You have therefore been awarded points for mishandling a moderation issue, cross posting, and insulting other members.

Thank you for banning her! I wish I would have seen this thread last night. Being a victim does not give anyone the right to make other victims feel responsible for their attack or more shamed than they already feel. I feel I can speak on this issue with some relevance, due to being a victim of an incredibly violent attack in the past. No, I didn't orgasm, but I have heard court testimony of women who have. Of course the shit's lawyer tried to claim that they weren't raped due to this. It was the most agonizing thing to watch these girls, ashamed, crying, spirits broken over something that was an involuntary reaction. (For anyone wondering how this happens, the trial I watched on TV was of a rapist who forced oral sex on his victims and didn't really beat them, I dunno if that makes a difference, but I suspect it may.)

nicole84
12-20-2009, 08:42 AM
Thank you DJoser for your handling of this.

KS_Stevia
12-20-2009, 08:57 AM
I want to slap the ho for insulting Djoser, who is a stand up guy. Thanks for not putting up with her shit, man!

firemaiden04
12-20-2009, 11:10 AM
Agreed, thank you, Djoser. I was getting pretty pissed about this situation.

Trem
12-20-2009, 11:24 AM
While she was being completely unreasonable lets keep in mind she's probably gone through something pretty horrible to feel the way she does.

princessjas
12-20-2009, 12:26 PM
While she was being completely unreasonable lets keep in mind she's probably gone through something pretty horrible to feel the way she does.

She probably has, but going through something horrendous doesn't give anyone the right to degrade others that have survived their own hellish attacks. Remember the number of women that are raped is very high (about 1 in 3) and I have no statistics to back this up, but is probably much higher for those in the sex industry. Many, many of us on this board have been violated and she has absolutely NO RIGHT to be so disprespectful and judgemental.

Trem
12-20-2009, 12:34 PM
She probably has, but going through something horrendous doesn't give anyone the right to degrade others that have survived their own hellish attacks. Remember the number of women that are raped is very high (about 1 in 3) and I have no statistics to back this up, but is probably much higher for those in the sex industry. Many, many of us on this board have been violated and she has absolutely NO RIGHT to be so disprespectful and judgemental.

I'm not supporting anything she said just pointing out that people who've gone through traumatic experiences are not always the most reasonable when dealing with that subject. She thoroughly earned her ban, i just see no need to keep putting her down.

charlie61
12-20-2009, 02:50 PM
Aaaaand end gossip. :)

Djoser
12-20-2009, 02:57 PM
I feel terrible about the whole thing.

I know kittygirl has to be in pain still.

She is not permanently banned. I hope she read Roksana's (spelling?) post with the link for counseling.




Anyway enough said here, please. We can now return to the fascinating topic of men getting fucked up the ass. :D

Trem
12-20-2009, 03:14 PM
Anyway enough said here, please. We can now return to the fascinating topic of men getting fucked up the ass. :D

This totally means you are gay.

Djoser
12-20-2009, 03:41 PM
Wow, that does sound gay, come to think of it. Oh no! I will have to redecorate my apartment with frilly shit now, I suppose. ;D

bluelight
12-20-2009, 07:51 PM
It gets me so wet but it scares me.

KS_Stevia
12-21-2009, 10:29 AM
I did it once with a boyfriend. It was overrated and I never wanted to do it again.

What about rimming? If a woman tosses a man's salad, does that make him gay?

princessjas
12-21-2009, 10:47 AM
I did it once with a boyfriend. It was overrated and I never wanted to do it again.

What about rimming? If a woman tosses a man's salad, does that make him gay?

Hmm, I think you're kidding on the rimming thing, but here is my .02 anyway...Every guy I've been with except for the ex has loved rimming, both giving and receiving. Calling that gay would be like saying a guy is gay because he likes kissing women or receiving blowjobs, cause yanno, he could being doing those with a man too. :-\

KS_Stevia
12-21-2009, 10:50 AM
Hehe, totally kidding! I also like giving and receiving.