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UV69
02-07-2010, 11:26 AM
So what is this thread about anyways? Picking on girls that are sluts, complaining about a girl who swaps germs in the vip rooms, making it about her being Russian, STD awareness..ect..ect

How about this maybe she likes it or that is the only way she knows how to behave and she takes her risk... What is the big deal

Guys that get head from a bunch of girls in vip rooms no1 questions why

Personally I like receiving oral sex not from custies in the vip rooms, but I normally don't turn it down from hott girls and I can be a kissing slut no big deal I get tested like everyone should even if they get as much oral action as me.

How much sex some1 has does not give any1 a std and having lil sex won't protect anyone who has 1 partner with an std or who uses a dirty needle. Some people I know are sluts and use protection fuck nite and day never get anything while some other people are married and their partner cheats once and they get something that way without even knowing about it thinking they were married and safe.

People really need to be aware and stop demonizing people with stds as the sex freaks cuz it doesn't work that way. Yes you can use protection, Yes you can avoid risk, but unless the only sex get is you fucking yourself you are just as capable of getting an std as any1 else cuz stds don't care if you fuck for a living or if you were a virgin on your wedding night.

Now if you are a custie and a girl is letting you do things why are you posting about it like she made you do that to her?

I know when I go to other clubs on my off time it's not usual for me to get a kiss or more from dancers --which never really has anything to do with money cuz I'm gonna tip the same and nicely anyways, but if I get a dance & the dancer decides she wants to give me more then what I paid for I know it's becuz she wanted to and I was cool with that and not complaining the least bit then when I allowed it or was involved in it. Yes sometimes I might be wow I didn't expect all that extra sexual attention, but I definitely don't go to the rooms with intentions of seeing how far she will let me go to make a judgement on or question her intentions for letting me after. The real question you should be focused on is why did you cuz you were being just as slutty as she was as she wasn't being slutty by herself.

dtxgirl
02-07-2010, 01:32 PM
...it has to do with non minorities too.
(http://www.avert.org/usa-states-cities.htm)
...people care who may get warts or cervical cancer from it. Obviously, the makers of Cervarix and Gardasil care enough to help prevent infection with certian HPV types that cause 70% of cervical cancer. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_papillomavirus)

Thanks, WiseGuy. If someone don't get what I'm trying to say... oh well.

Her "cold sore" was an obvious open herpes sore, yes, there's a visible difference. It's a different strain. I've had freakin' cold sores. Most people have.

HPV gives you a higher risk of cervical cancer. My best friend has HPV and it HAS affected her health. THAT'S what I was trying to get at. Either being a minority or accepting sex from a minority has nothing to do with whether or not she chooses to accept cash for sex from multiple people in a night, but it may increase her risk of getting a life threatening disease, and then spreading it. The cities that have a high AIDS rate also are known for having "dirty" clubs.

think about it.

( I'm going for a low number, and just averaging here)

If she sucks off/has contact with say....5 guys a night. She works 4 days a week. That's 20 guys a week. 80 a month. 960 a year.

If she does it with 10 guys a night, 1,920 guys in a year that she's messed around with, and you think that doesn't increase her risk of catching a disease that could kill her?

Wow. I give up. :banghead:

Edit: I do however completely support OTC escorts. If you are responsible enough to make it a business, always have safe sex, get tested, etc..... you're awesome in my book.

Editx2: KS, Laurcon, I do see where you're coming from with the minority thing. It's also a lack of education, and mainly a lack of "give-a-f*ck". Somehow though, I don't see someone doing extras in a club to say "sorry, you're a minority and therefore have a higher AIDS risk due to the statictics of this city, so no, I won't take your money and blow you".

KS_Stevia
02-07-2010, 01:38 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_New_York_City

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Dallas

NYC is more racially and ethnically diverse than Dallas. Just saying. But I do see where you are coming from Laurcon.

KS_Stevia
02-07-2010, 01:41 PM
A couple of possibilities:

She's from Russia. Some foreign girls are brought to the States to work the SCs to prostitute or just dance. They may be pressured to make a certain amount of money so they'll do anything to make it.

Some foreign dancers come from countries where prostituting in the SC is normal activity and is expected by the customers. When they come to the U.S., they do what they've done back home and don't think nothing of it.

It just seems odd that she's from Russia and she's "new" to dancing. ::)

What the fuck is that supposed to mean? Russians don't throw their daughters onto the corner or the strip club when they hit puberty.

Prostitution in Russia is NOT cool and NOT accepted. However, there is a lot of dire poverty across the huge country, and very few social services. Having lots of babies in Russia don't get you food stamps and Section 8 free housing. Its gets you starvation. So people do what they have to do in extreme circumstances.

Doesn't make it culturally acceptable, or that they "think nothing of it." You need to get your facts straight before you come on here insulting an entire vast nationality
of people.

SteveSmith
02-07-2010, 02:28 PM
What the fuck is that supposed to mean? Russians don't throw their daughters onto the corner or the strip club when they hit puberty.

Prostitution in Russia is NOT cool and NOT accepted. However, there is a lot of dire poverty across the huge country, and very few social services. Having lots of babies in Russia don't get you food stamps and Section 8 free housing. Its gets you starvation. So people do what they have to do in extreme circumstances.

Doesn't make it culturally acceptable, or that they "think nothing of it." You need to get your facts straight before you come on here insulting an entire vast nationality
of people.

I'm just throwing out the possibilties. That's why I said some.

http://forum.stripperweb.com/showthread.php?t=137333&highlight=russian+dancer

chris91
02-10-2010, 01:00 AM
this isn't being racist but you realize that has to do with minority populations right? Miami, NO, Baton Rouge, DC and Dallas? Gee what do they all have in common.

Um, yes that is exactly being racist. Using code words like "minority" does not make you less racist. Last time I checked, white people were the minority in New Orleans, but I doubt you'd say that the aids rate has anything to do with them.

laurcon
02-10-2010, 10:38 AM
this isn't being racist but you realize that has to do with minority populations right? Miami, NO, Baton Rouge, DC and Dallas? Gee what do they all have in common.



Um, yes that is exactly being racist. Using code words like "minority" does not make you less racist. Last time I checked, white people were the minority in New Orleans, but I doubt you'd say that the aids rate has anything to do with them.

From the Office of Minority Health, part of the US Department of Health & Human Services:

"HIV/AIDS has had a devastating impact on minorities in the United States. Racial and ethnic minorities accounted for almost 68 percent of the newly diagnosed cases of HIV and AIDS in 2007. In 2007, 88 percent of babies born with HIV/AIDS belong to minority groups.

In the African American community, HIV/AIDS has become an epidemic. African Americans accounted for 49% of all HIV/AIDS cases diagnosed in 2007. African American men are more than nine times more likely to die of AIDS than non-Hispanic White men." *http://minorityhealth.hhs.gov/templates/browse.aspx?lvl=3&lvlid=70



so once again you're telling me i'm racist? because i referred to minorities in the way commonly accepted in the United States? because i'm being factual and citing statistics? i don't get it...

there's a world of difference between acknowledging variation in human beings and thinking that any one variation is better or worse than the other. i don't see where i put down anyone, only where i said what was really going on.

wanderlust08
02-10-2010, 10:42 AM
Am I the only one who thinks this guy is just full of shit and trying to stir up drama? Why else would he post this here? Don't you think if it were true he'd be gloating to his friends instead of anonymous strangers on "teh interwebz"?

SmittyLax6
02-10-2010, 11:01 AM
I'm calling BS on the whole premise. I doubt this actually happened.

laurcon
02-10-2010, 11:25 AM
Am I the only one who thinks this guy is just full of shit and trying to stir up drama? Why else would he post this here? Don't you think if it were true he'd be gloating to his friends instead of anonymous strangers on "teh interwebz"?


I'm calling BS on the whole premise. I doubt this actually happened.

all clubs are different and this is not unusual in some places in completely private dance areas. and idk who would possibly gloat to friends about eating a stripper's pussy.
i feel like the guy genuinely was surprised at how far he got and a little confused that he didn't pay extra. these days that will happen more to keep customers coming back, like it obviously worked on the OP. now perhaps he would have gone back to see her and spent the exact same amount of money w/o her extras, but she wasn't willing to take that risk. i'm not saying i condone the practice, just understand it.

WestCoast101
02-10-2010, 06:31 PM
I'm calling BS on the whole premise. I doubt this actually happened.

you definitely haven't been to enough strip clubs, and while the OP while admitted this was apparently rare in his club, the story is entirely plausible.

first of all french kissing is not unusual in strip clubs, figure wild guess overall 5 to 10% of all dancers will do it upon first meeting with customers, particulary in VIP or other private areas. and higher with foreign dancers.

as for regular dancer-customer "relationships" its even higher, probably wild guess 50%, and the OP on this third visit might even qualify for regular status. although i usually think of it like 5 to 10 visits minimumn

now as for oral sex on the dancer, that's a very low percent, but i can tell you I know 100% it happens now and then, and i know this personally on multiple occasions (also foreign dancers), and since it helps customers keep spending dollars on them, and ts low risk for dancers -they figure why not? however its probably not a good idea for customers, i will admit that.

wanderlust08
02-10-2010, 06:38 PM
Now, I don't think that it NEVER happens, I've seen some crazy shit in my time in the club, it was more about the way the post was written.

"Why would a dancer french kiss me and let me eat her pussy???"

It is a "DUH!" inducing statement and the details, including the details of the dancer's nationality, seemed like they were just thrown in there for shock-value and to make people start arguing.

The fact that it was posted in pink and not blue is another giveaway. And that he only has one other post on here. I'm calling BS.

chris91
02-11-2010, 01:35 AM
you definitely haven't been to enough strip clubs, and while the OP while admitted this was apparently rare in his club, the story is entirely plausible.

first of all french kissing is not unusual in strip clubs, figure wild guess overall 5 to 10% of all dancers will do it upon first meeting with customers, particulary in VIP or other private areas. and higher with foreign dancers.

as for regular dancer-customer "relationships" its even higher, probably wild guess 50%, and the OP on this third visit might even qualify for regular status. although i usually think of it like 5 to 10 visits minimumn

now as for oral sex on the dancer, that's a very low percent, but i can tell you I know 100% it happens now and then, and i know this personally on multiple occasions (also foreign dancers), and since it helps customers keep spending dollars on them, and ts low risk for dancers -they figure why not? however its probably not a good idea for customers, i will admit that.


Really, dude? Again with this bullshit? You cannot say that 10% of dancers will french kiss a customer. There is no way for you to know that. Did you ever think that maybe you just attract dirty dancers because the clean ones can smell the scum on you and choose to stay away?

sxcbbw
02-11-2010, 01:39 AM
Really, dude? Again with this bullshit? You cannot say that 10% of dancers will french kiss a customer. There is no way for you to know that. Did you ever think that maybe you just attract dirty dancers because the clean ones can smell the scum on you and choose to stay away?

I just choked on my drink. Way to go, Captain Hilarious Things That Get My Desk Wet. :'(

WestCoast101
02-11-2010, 02:26 AM
Really, dude? Again with this bullshit? You cannot say that 10% of dancers will french kiss a customer. There is no way for you to know that. Did you ever think that maybe you just attract dirty dancers because the clean ones can smell the scum on you and choose to stay away?

actually i should have said regular kissing (the real deal that is, not pecks on the cheek b.s.) and also french kissing, and a rough guess of 5 to 10% is entirely reasonable, (50% for regs) or probably even higher if one never bought dances from american girls. As "Goldenrule" said a few months back, while its not a majority of dancers, its definitely a significant minority of girls that kiss, and while customer may not look for it, it gets offered now and then. As for dirty girls? LOL. Some of them offer kissing precisely to avoid regular extras, and as I've said before, many are the hotter girls in these clubs, and generally its kissing w/o french kissing, the later having far more of a sexual connotation. I see "Dwill325" earlier saying he's experienced it with dancers, and I believe "Laurcon" or at least one dancer on this site admitted on a thread a month or two back, she offers it to some customers. Its definitely part of the business. and as for the OP's story, its completely plausible, although oral sex admitedly is pretty rare, that also happens., so none of the this is absurd on its face, especially since the OP is or was practically a regular to this girl anyways.

WestCoast101
02-11-2010, 02:43 AM
as a side note, why the hell doesn't anyone seem to understand that french kissing is not the only kind of (real make out) style kissing in the world, and that's why this time i didn't even bother distinguishing the two types, because it seems no one knows the difference today anyway., and shoving a tongue down a girls throat that you (in some cases) met mere moments earlier, seems alot more intrusive than regular conventional kissing, but I guess i'm old fashion in that regard. If it goes to french kissing with a dancer, its not me that will initiate it, its her call, as don't consider it that much better anyways.

chris91
02-11-2010, 02:46 PM
actually i should have said regular kissing (the real deal that is, not pecks on the cheek b.s.) and also french kissing, and a rough guess of 5 to 10% is entirely reasonable, (50% for regs) or probably even higher if one never bought dances from american girls. As "Goldenrule" said a few months back, while its not a majority of dancers, its definitely a significant minority of girls that kiss, and while customer may not look for it, it gets offered now and then. As for dirty girls? LOL. Some of them offer kissing precisely to avoid regular extras, and as I've said before, many are the hotter girls in these clubs, and generally its kissing w/o french kissing, the later having far more of a sexual connotation. I see "Dwill325" earlier saying he's experienced it with dancers, and I believe "Laurcon" or at least one dancer on this site admitted on a thread a month or two back, she offers it to some customers. Its definitely part of the business. and as for the OP's story, its completely plausible, although oral sex admitedly is pretty rare, that also happens., so none of the this is absurd on its face, especially since the OP is or was practically a regular to this girl anyways.


All you're doing is repeating the same ridiculous made up bullshit. I don't even know why you're defending the OP's story. It wasn't him that I was calling absurd.

Yeah, 5-10% is a reasonable guess, if you ignore the fact that pulling numbers out of your ass is completely unreasonable in the first place. Then, 40-90% is a reasonable guess also. Why not go around telling people that 80% of dancers will fuck customers, 98% if the customer is a regular? You know, since you're just making shit up anyway.

WestCoast101
02-11-2010, 06:22 PM
Point is its not rare, and its definitely not below 1 in 20 overall for most guys who frequent higher contact clubs and buy dances from a fair amount of foreign girls. The overall 5 to 10% number is a reasonable guesstimate based upon my experiences buying dances from 100's of strippers over a number of years.

I see this post by Golden_Rule on Dec 9th which suggests to me its not that uncommon for him, and therefore not for many other guys either.

"I don't know if I would call it "integral" but if I was a dancer posting on Stripperweb I wouldn't imply it wasn't simply because I didn't do it. At least 90% of the time it was nothing I suggested or initiated. Sometimes I stopped it, because it was someplace I didn't want to go with that particular dancer. Sometimes I went with it. With that said: I have been kissed in all sorts of ways [timidly, tentatively, aggressively, passionately; for short bits, long bits, "are they ever going to come up for air" bits] in LD rooms and VIPs far too often to think its not at least prevalent to some degree because I wouldn't think of myself as some sort of 'special case' that this happens to and not other customers as well."

WestCoast101
02-11-2010, 06:36 PM
All you're doing is repeating the same ridiculous made up bullshit. I don't even know why you're defending the OP's story. It wasn't him that I was calling absurd.

Yeah, 5-10% is a reasonable guess, if you ignore the fact that pulling numbers out of your ass is completely unreasonable in the first place. Then, 40-90% is a reasonable guess also. Why not go around telling people that 80% of dancers will fuck customers, 98% if the customer is a regular? You know, since you're just making shit up anyway.


heavy kissing, french kissing or not, cannot be compared to ITC screwing in any way, so you need to stop insinuatiing that it is. Now with the foreign girls, it seems kissing just isn't a big deal with many, but for other girls, particularly those that are very hot, kissing can be the one "extra" they do permit. I checked the comment by Laurcon and in fact she said she doesn't do other extras, but does ( with 30 something business types) selectively offer kissing "now and then" ,and i've seen that same pattern over and over with some of the hotter girls in certain clubs. Sorry its part of the business, maybe a small part, but there's a sizable minority of dancers out there making up for the 90% or so that don't kiss. You can preach all you want how it wrecks your business, but you won't stop it.

mediocrity
02-11-2010, 07:06 PM
Sounds awful but my friends and I regularly torture the extras girls and run them out. But then again I'm just an asshole like that.

ATX is pretty damn clean though. I will admit that.

chris91
02-11-2010, 10:23 PM
heavy kissing, french kissing or not, cannot be compared to ITC screwing in any way, so you need to stop insinuatiing that it is. Now with the foreign girls, it seems kissing just isn't a big deal with many, but for other girls, particularly those that are very hot, kissing can be the one "extra" they do permit. I checked the comment by Laurcon and in fact she said she doesn't do other extras, but does ( with 30 something business types) selectively offer kissing "now and then" ,and i've seen that same pattern over and over with some of the hotter girls in certain clubs. Sorry its part of the business, maybe a small part, but there's a sizable minority of dancers out there making up for the 90% or so that don't kiss. You can preach all you want how it wrecks your business, but you won't stop it.

You may think that kissing can't be compared to fucking, but for me they are both illegal things done by dirty dancers that screw with my money. One is not worse than the other. That's irrelevant though, because I'm not saying that kissing never happens. What I'm saying is that YOU have no idea how much it happens.

It doesn't matter how many girls have kissed you or how may stripperweb posts mention kissing in clubs. Those things are not representative of all strippers. You have no more information than the rest of us. In fact, you have a lot less than many of us. You don't know what you're talking about.

I spoke to 3 different walmart employees last night, and one of them was a total bitch to me. You don't hear me going around saying that 30% of walmart employees are bitches, because that would be stupid.

Djoser
02-12-2010, 10:35 AM
From the Office of Minority Health, part of the US Department of Health & Human Services:

"HIV/AIDS has had a devastating impact on minorities in the United States. Racial and ethnic minorities accounted for almost 68 percent of the newly diagnosed cases of HIV and AIDS in 2007. In 2007, 88 percent of babies born with HIV/AIDS belong to minority groups.

In the African American community, HIV/AIDS has become an epidemic. African Americans accounted for 49% of all HIV/AIDS cases diagnosed in 2007. African American men are more than nine times more likely to die of AIDS than non-Hispanic White men." *http://minorityhealth.hhs.gov/templates/browse.aspx?lvl=3&lvlid=70



so once again you're telling me i'm racist? because i referred to minorities in the way commonly accepted in the United States? because i'm being factual and citing statistics? i don't get it...

there's a world of difference between acknowledging variation in human beings and thinking that any one variation is better or worse than the other. i don't see where i put down anyone, only where i said what was really going on.

I would have to agree. Ignoring well-known statistics to remain politically correct would seem to be pointless. But I have gotten shit from black friends for bringing up these same statistics. Mild shit as they knew I wasn't about to join the fucking KKK or whatever. :D

As far as the kissing, yeah it goes on, and it's not just the Russians doing it. We have to watch certain dancers like hawks or else they will do that, and a lot more.

But I have known many women who were formerly prostitutes in Russia, Argentina, Brazil, the Czech Republic, etc., etc., but were either toning it down and only doing it OTC here in the USA, or had stopped entirely since they could easily make the same or more without it here. It is true that in many European countries the stripclubs are brothels, except the high-end showclubs. Of course that is true of some clubs in some areas in the USA (I worked in one in Daytona), but more so over there.

As far as the OP goes, could be a troll, you never know--it sure wouldn't be the first time that's happened here!

WestCoast101
02-12-2010, 02:11 PM
You may think that kissing can't be compared to fucking, but for me they are both illegal things done by dirty dancers that screw with my money. One is not worse than the other. That's irrelevant though, because I'm not saying that kissing never happens. What I'm saying is that YOU have no idea how much it happens.

It doesn't matter how many girls have kissed you or how may stripperweb posts mention kissing in clubs. Those things are not representative of all strippers. You have no more information than the rest of us. In fact, you have a lot less than many of us. You don't know what you're talking about.

I spoke to 3 different walmart employees last night, and one of them was a total bitch to me. You don't hear me going around saying that 30% of walmart employees are bitches, because that would be stupid.

the mere fact that you are so pissed off about (those "dirty") kissing dancers "screwing" with your money tells me you know damn well its not like this super rare event in only a few clubs. Kissing in clubs is happening all over the place, in all kind of clubs, and of course no one knows the precise percentages, but 1 in 20 would be a low side estimate, and as for regular dancer-customer "relationships" (e.g ones that go on for many months in VIP) 50% is hardly high side. Kissing at times can violate club rules, but kissing in exchange for money is rarely illegal, nor an act of prostitution, in the rare cases at worse a minor violation of a local ordinance.

mediocrity
02-12-2010, 02:18 PM
^^ Regardless, it's still fucking disgusting.

WestCoast101
02-12-2010, 02:44 PM
^^ Regardless, it's still fucking disgusting.

no, fucking in clubs is what is "fucking disgusting", there is nothing commmendable about it in any way, but ITC kissing strangely enough, with the right dancer under the right circumstances and done the proper way, really isn't always that bad, particularly where (sexually-specific type) french kissing is minimized or avoided. My guess is that other customers have noticed the same thing, however like myself won't explain exactly why in here, because it just invites problems on a site like this.

mediocrity
02-12-2010, 03:24 PM
no, fucking in clubs is what is "fucking disgusting", there is nothing commmendable about it in any way, but ITC kissing strangely enough, with the right dancer under the right circumstances and done the proper way, really isn't always that bad, particularly where (sexually-specific type) french kissing is minimized or avoided. My guess is that other customers have noticed the same thing, however like myself won't explain exactly why in here, because it just invites problems on a site like this.

Sorry. All of my clients are/were either old, fat or otherwise visually unappealing. The thought of putting my mouth on them makes me want to retch. I also find ITC kissing extremely unprofessional, and every club I have ever worked at has fired girls for it if they got caught.

Call me shallow but I am not putting my pretty lips on anyone I don't find attractive, and I would never do it for pay.

bigmarv
02-12-2010, 04:38 PM
I've never French kissed a dancer, but I've had a couple of dancers offer their very clean pussies to be licked.

mediocrity
02-12-2010, 04:51 PM
^^ We know.

WestCoast101
02-12-2010, 06:37 PM
Sorry. All of my clients are/were either old, fat or otherwise visually unappealing. The thought of putting my mouth on them makes me want to retch. I also find ITC kissing extremely unprofessional, and every club I have ever worked at has fired girls for it if they got caught.

Call me shallow but I am not putting my pretty lips on anyone I don't find attractive, and I would never do it for pay.

ALL your clients? that is hard to believe. What kind of clubs did you work at? You must have very high standards.

KS_Stevia
02-12-2010, 07:13 PM
I've never French kissed a dancer, but I've had a couple of dancers offer their very clean pussies to be licked.


http://content.etilize.com/Large/11964006.jpg
They say it kills 99% of germs. The rest all live in bigmarv's mouth. }:D

bigmarv
02-12-2010, 07:40 PM
^^^

WOW! If only 1% of germs live in my mouth, I would say that's some very clean pussy. :)

mediocrity
02-12-2010, 07:54 PM
ALL your clients? that is hard to believe. What kind of clubs did you work at? You must have very high standards.

I work at the most high end clubs I can in whatever city I am in. And yes, I have exceptionally high standards: ask JD. My boyfriend is young, gorgeous, a member of Mensa, and rich. I don't slum it dude.

And yeah, I am going to be a jerk. Do you know WHY I command such high VIP prices and WHY I don't have to kiss etc for money?

BECAUSE I AM FUCKING STUNNING. I wouldn't be dating a rich porn star if I wasn't.

Ask anyone who knows me; I do NOT have to stoop to a level, same as most of the girls on this board do not because they are also ridiculously good looking.

You are speaking with the creme de la creme on here, not the ugly, streetwalkin' hookers.

Carry on.

chris91
02-13-2010, 01:16 AM
the mere fact that you are so pissed off about (those "dirty") kissing dancers "screwing" with your money tells me you know damn well its not like this super rare event in only a few clubs. Kissing in clubs is happening all over the place, in all kind of clubs, and of course no one knows the precise percentages, but 1 in 20 would be a low side estimate, and as for regular dancer-customer "relationships" (e.g ones that go on for many months in VIP) 50% is hardly high side. Kissing at times can violate club rules, but kissing in exchange for money is rarely illegal, nor an act of prostitution, in the rare cases at worse a minor violation of a local ordinance.

Ok, you're deliberately ignoring my point, so I'm going to assume that you are aware of the fact that pulling statistics out of your ass makes you look like a jackass and are ok with that.

Also, kissing customers in the club is most definitely illegal in at least every city that I've worked in. In New Orleans, I believe they would charge you with lewd dancing or something like that. Either way, it's against the rules, it's a stupid thing to do, and it is disgusting.

Kellydancer
02-14-2010, 06:14 PM
I can't believe kissing in the clubs is as common as certain people are stating. Guess how many customers I've ever kissed (I'm not talking kiss on the cheek)? One, and why? Because he's now my boyfriend and I never kissed him while he was my customer. And guess what else? He will be the only customer I will ever do anything sexual with.

KS_Stevia
02-14-2010, 09:35 PM
Ive only kissed one custy as well. And I've mentioned it on here before, I was high on E. He never became my regular but we kept in touch over email for a long time. He was a hottie.

I've never kissed a regular. In the dark CR and VIP rooms, I've seen fingering and handjobs, but I've never really seen kissing occur. I don't count eskimo kisses (noses), or cheek kisses, or very brief closed mouth kisses as kissing custies though....

Things are different with OTC though, but we aren't talking about that here.

WestCoast101
02-14-2010, 11:40 PM
Ive only kissed one custy as well. And I've mentioned it on here before, I was high on E. He never became my regular but we kept in touch over email for a long time. He was a hottie.

I've never kissed a regular. In the dark CR and VIP rooms, I've seen fingering and handjobs, but I've never really seen kissing occur. I don't count eskimo kisses (noses), or cheek kisses, or very brief closed mouth kisses as kissing custies though....

Things are different with OTC though, but we aren't talking about that here.

must be that yoda guy, right?

never made out with a regular? even guys spending 1000's in VIP on you over many months?

yup, OTC is another issue

KS_Stevia
02-14-2010, 11:47 PM
never made out with a regular? even guys spending 1000's in VIP on you over many months?


Never.

I've done things though, things I am not proud of. Kissing simply wasn't one of them. :-\

WestCoast101
02-14-2010, 11:55 PM
I can't believe kissing in the clubs is as common as certain people are stating. Guess how many customers I've ever kissed (I'm not talking kiss on the cheek)? One, and why? Because he's now my boyfriend and I never kissed him while he was my customer. And guess what else? He will be the only customer I will ever do anything sexual with.

you too must have very high standards, and i'm glad at least on person in here, Golden_Rule a few months back seemed to be saying something consistent (w/o guesstimate percentages) with what i've said. But where the hell is he? Maybe he got kissed by the wrong dancer and is too sick to post? Geez i hope not, but in any case it has to be the (ESL type) foreign dancers, e.g including mexican, brazilian, russians, and other eastern bloc girls, to cite a few - pushing the numbers up. because alot of them are like these crazy kissers. some hold back a bit, then go crazy, which is even better, but it can add something to the club expereince for us customers. Ok, american girls too but its definitely not in the range of 5 to 10% with just them and excluding all foreign dancers, way lower i admit.

Kellydancer
02-15-2010, 12:25 AM
you too must have very high standards, and i'm glad at least on person in here, Golden_Rule a few months back seemed to be saying something consistent (w/o guesstimate percentages) with what i've said. But where the hell is he? Maybe he got kissed by the wrong dancer and is too sick to post? Geez i hope not, but in any case it has to be the (ESL type) foreign dancers, e.g including mexican, brazilian, russians, and other eastern bloc girls, to cite a few - pushing the numbers up. because alot of them are like these crazy kissers. some hold back a bit, then go crazy, which is even better, but it can add something to the club expereince for us customers. Ok, american girls too but its definitely not in the range of 5 to 10% with just them and excluding all foreign dancers, way lower i admit.

I've always had high standards because the idea of kissing a customer repulses me. I'm not saying it doesn't go on, just saying I don't think I've seen it. Like I said earlier, I used to kiss regulars on the cheek (pretty harmless) and I once got in trouble for that. I have very high standards for anything sexual and always have. Kissing and more is strictly for boyfriends.

laurcon
02-15-2010, 01:24 AM
I've always had high standards because the idea of kissing a customer repulses me. I'm not saying it doesn't go on, just saying I don't think I've seen it. Like I said earlier, I used to kiss regulars on the cheek (pretty harmless) and I once got in trouble for that. I have very high standards for anything sexual and always have. Kissing and more is strictly for boyfriends.

understandable and i respect that.

chris91
02-15-2010, 02:04 AM
Ive only kissed one custy as well. And I've mentioned it on here before, I was high on E. He never became my regular but we kept in touch over email for a long time. He was a hottie.

I've never kissed a regular. In the dark CR and VIP rooms, I've seen fingering and handjobs, but I've never really seen kissing occur. I don't count eskimo kisses (noses), or cheek kisses, or very brief closed mouth kisses as kissing custies though....

Things are different with OTC though, but we aren't talking about that here.

I have never kissed a customer, and I have never seen a dancer kiss a customer. Not once in 13 years and 4 different states. I'm nosy too. I always peek in dance booths and champagne rooms when I walk by. I have heard about it happening, but I doubt it's as common as 1 in 10.

chris91
02-15-2010, 02:07 AM
you too must have very high standards, and i'm glad at least on person in here, Golden_Rule a few months back seemed to be saying something consistent (w/o guesstimate percentages) with what i've said.

I wouldn't go around quoting GR as a way to get people to take you seriously. His understanding of strip clubs is only slightly better than cyrils.

mediocrity
02-15-2010, 02:20 AM
I love how you didn't even reply to myself or the other chicks who have high standards.

WestCoast101
02-15-2010, 03:03 AM
I wouldn't go around quoting GR as a way to get people to take you seriously. His understanding of strip clubs is only slightly better than cyrils.

Cyris is all theory, and obviously GR knows what he is talking about at least on this subject, however GR only concedes 10% of the time initiating it or hinting at it, with me its more like 50% of the time, more so with exceptionally pretty dancers, and of course in a high contact club its alot easier, because i'm already usually dumping considerable $$ on them for just talk and maybe some minimal contact at the bar, and they're sometimes dropping hints going to VIP. overpromising etc, so when you call their bluff, then make just a passing hint as to what interests you more, its more like a sense of relief for them, "oh THAT. ok" and while outcomes vary, it obviously may not work so well in air dance clubs, but i avoid them anyways, so in that sense my numbers may be skewed a bit high because maybe its not really random clubs across the board..

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mediocrity
02-15-2010, 03:49 AM
FYI GR was a nasty, condescending, know it all bastard who made me want to spontaneously combust. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

Just my opinion.

hockeybobby
02-15-2010, 08:06 AM
I've done things though, things I am not proud of. Kissing simply wasn't one of them. :-\

We've all done things we're not proud of. We're perfectly imperfect.

hot4ablackchick
02-15-2010, 09:32 AM
I couldn't bring myself to make out with a customer. Even if he was hot, super nice, and a great guy I actually really enjoyed dancing for. I am not a make out kind of girl in real life, and I haven't made out with my hubby in years, despite our very active sex life. The idea of kissing repulses me. If I were to ever be tempted, I would still never do it because it looks terrible and should just never be done inside the club no matter the circumstances. Very unprofessional. I would never pull a guys cock out and start sucking it. Making out would just be taking it too far IMO, and blur the lines too much. I like dry kisses on the lips however, and I have done that with a very few select customers, but exchange DNA? Ummm no. I have seen plenty of girls make out with customers (sometimes even out on the floor!) and I wouldn't say its common, but its not unusual either. There are probably much more entertainers who are sneaky about it and would never admit to it. Its also not technically against the law here either.

Kellydancer
02-15-2010, 11:40 AM
I love how you didn't even reply to myself or the other chicks who have high standards.

I hope he didn't respond to me just because I mentioned I'm dating a former customer. This situation is a lot more complex than meeting a guy in the club, then dating him. It happened once and I knew him 15 years (lost touch for 10). I know saying that gives some of these guys ideas, but it's a rare situation, and just trying to prove a point. I never kissed him ironically until recently and so far hasn't gone behind that.


understandable and i respect that.

Thank you. I feel funny mentioning this because I don't want guys to think that this could happen to them. I know some guys here think that all the dancers do sexual things with the customers and it's not true. The idea of kissing a customer repulses me.

yoda57us
02-15-2010, 04:46 PM
Ive only kissed one custy as well. And I've mentioned it on here before, I was high on E. He never became my regular but we kept in touch over email for a long time. He was a hottie.



must be that yoda guy, right?

I wish! WC, we are friends, not former dancer and customer. We did not meet until after KS retired from dancing. I know this totally fucks-up your whole OTC/ITC/IRL/notIRL theory but, outside of a few cocktails, I have never spent a dime on KS, seen her naked or wasted her time while she was at work. We are friends because we see eye to eye on a number of things and respect each other. Sorry but there is absolutely no theory you can espouse here that would give KS a reason to tolerate me for any reason other than the fact that I'm not a moron. Besides, my name and "hottie" have never been uttered in the same sentence...

By the way, this doesn't mean that I wouldn't have spent a fortune on KS if I did happen to meet her when she was a dancer...she is that hot!



never made out with a regular? even guys spending 1000's in VIP on you over many months?


Why do you equate the amount of money a guy spends with what he is going to get from a dancer? Honestly, the guys who want things like DFK and heavy extras generally don't spend a lot of money and rarely retain ATF's since (a) they are cheap and (b) most good dancers don't want creepy regulars. I've been known to spend on both clean girls and extras girls but the clean dancers are the ones I become a regular with and spend generously on over months or years. The dirty girls are the ones I go see once in a while when I want my pipes cleaned and my favorite escorts are not around.

KS_Stevia
02-15-2010, 04:51 PM
Really, its the truth. I never kissed my regulars. And the one time I kissed a customer was because I was high on drugs, it was a party-type night at a club, I was in my early 20's and having some fun, probably shouldn't have been working..and I almost got my ass kicked because of it, which I totally would have deserved. And the guy was my age, a super hotttie french businessman, who was FAR from an SC regular. I still giggle about it, because I really dodged a bullet.

But please, haven't most of us, at one point, met a person out somewhere social, and pushed our limits with them because of attraction and alcohol (maybe drugs).

Its just not something I'v ever really observed in the clubs I've worked. And that's about 18 clubs over the USA and in Europe. So, I don' think I'm that clueless.

And yodachka, I still love you. When are you coming back for our night of debauchery?