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Athenathefabulous
03-05-2010, 11:40 AM
This IS a joke....right??

Well i said it mostly to be funny, but its not entirely a joke.

The way i see it is, you can be a respectful customer and then i will retain your interests at heart. I will be an awesome entertainer, i will try to be your fantasy girl, i will make you laugh and i will be some awesome sensual entertainment and you will leave smiling. and broke.

or you can be an asshole. you can totally ignore my personal boundaries. you can try to grab me when i say no. and you can say rude comments and try to degrade me. and you will not leave smiling. but you will leave broke.

The end result is the same... to empty the customer's wallet. If they are a good customer, then I will have the additional goal of servicing their emotional needs. But if they are an asshole, then i will be underhanded and dishonest right back at them and try to get as much money out of them with no regards for their personal feelngs. and i wont lose any sleep over it.

what can i say, im not a saint, im a stripper.

Vyanka
03-05-2010, 05:24 PM
LoL. Hell no. Was someone forcing drinks down his throat? Did you stand there with a gun to his head and tell him he better run up his credit card? He's an adult. He did what he wanted.
You were at work, you did your job. Enjoy your money. No hell involved. ;)

Werd.

Tiny, you did nothing wrong. He liked your company & he had fun. He knows what he is getting himself to when he walks in through the club door. ;)

UV69
03-05-2010, 10:08 PM
I dont take advantage of anyone I dance for as they are paying for a service and getting what they paid for so I feel no guilt about it, as I don't rip them off or run cons on them so they all choice to as grown adults that can spend their money as they please. I in fact do my best to ensure they enjoy it.

Now with that said the only time I kinda felt bad about taking money from a custie would be the times my mentally slow but really sweet regular came in to see me as well I know if he wasn't slow that he is soo cute/handsome and sweet he would have a gf and I know he comes in cuz he wants that attention from girls, but the poor kid doesn't even know what sex is or how to talk to girls.

He's twenty something physically but mentally it's like dancing for a 6-10 yr old and a really shy sweet sheltered innocent one at that. I don't feel bad that I dance for him cuz I know he enjoys it and I do go out of my way to give him special attention I don't for most my custies, but I would almost mercy fuck him for free only I can't as I would feel bad for having to rape him and stealing his innocence. Besides it's still business and I'm still a lesbian who doesn't do men, but I do still think of him as my sympathy boyfriend more so then an actual custie.

I only take his money so he'll go home happy after his dances cuz if not and I didn't and i showed him special attention for free he would follow me around like a puppy and I cant have a manboy puppy as cure and sweet as he is.

Dancing Queen
03-06-2010, 01:10 AM
For a second I did feel guilty...like oh he's nice...but then I was like..uh no! This guy talks nasty filth to me most of the time. Take his money!

Otoki
03-09-2010, 10:29 AM
i dont usually get guilty over drunk ones, if theyre that pissed they deserve what they get. i usually feel bad for the really nice ones that are like in love with me. id hate for them to think im using them for money, but even though i am, i enjoy their company
This is how I am. If I genuinely think they're nice guys, and they're acting infatuated I feel bad. But usually they ask about whether I have a bf and I say yes, and they still act that way. So maybe I shouldn't feel guilty because they're keeping their fantasy alive? Meh.

kee
04-07-2010, 02:20 AM
A word about guilt.

1.) if he is drunk, I make it very clear when it's a new song, if I feel it's necessary I will look him in the eye as I tell him each dance instead of whispering it in his ear. I will also call out after 5, or ten dances by saying 100$, 200$s now. I mostly do this if I realize that he may be too drunk to keep track. This way, he won't feel taken advantage of and I won't be screwed out of money that he drunkenly spent without having. Find what works for you.

2.)If you are behaving according to your ethically values, and you are both aware of the rules, then you are providing a service that he has agreed to pay for, simple as that.

3.) We are not taking advantage of them, we are providing an awesome service. People need touch, they need to be made to feel special, smart, sexy, worth flirting with. We are beautiful Queens who are practiced in making men feel good, and giving men a fantasy and a woman to put up on a pedestal. Sometimes, we even teach them how to talk to a woman, or how to treat a woman, to have the fantasy of a date or a girlfriend- all without complications- and they love us for this. Whenever we come into contact with another human being we have to power to improve their life even just a little bit. Don't forget this power, or underestimate all that we give. take pride in your work.

p.s. an example- I danced for this man whose wife died and he wasn't ready to date. It was the first time in two years that he had a naked woman sit with him, and gaze into his eyes, and talk- the simple yet so important intimacy of it...

kee
04-07-2010, 02:34 AM
one more thing. When I first started, a guy told me he was tempted, but he really shouldn't do dances since his wife was in labour. In case it was true, I congratulated him and didn't push because I would have felt guilty. A few minutes later, he went up with someone else.

This taught me that in the end, they make choices for themselves.

Won't dance because his girlfirend won't like it? I am less likely to push here also, but I will ask- Think you might change your mind later? I could check back...(cleavage, & eye contact). I'm selling, as is expected of me, but I won't say screw your girlfriend because I wouldn't feel good about that.

Trust your gut and believe in what you do, and hopefully that will help with the guilt.

Zinaida
04-07-2010, 10:36 AM
I had a really really drunk guy last night who was in love with me. I was treating him like a total scum bag and he was eating it up. Anyways he spent $800 on his credit card and this guy doesn't even have a job. He lives at home with his parents. (In a wealthy area mind you). I definitely coulda got more outta him but I just felt bad. I even gave him a "fake" number. I'm going to hell aren't I? He was even my age and a guy I would normally talk to or be friends with... ahhh the guilt.

So long as he doesn't sober up, realize what he did while wasted and try to reverse the charges on his card, you my dear, are golden. ;D

I do not consider that advantage-taking.

Now if he was mentally handicapped...I've seen girls take advantage of them. No bueno IMO.

Zinaida
04-07-2010, 10:37 AM
p.s. an example- I danced for this man whose wife died and he wasn't ready to date. It was the first time in two years that he had a naked woman sit with him, and gaze into his eyes, and talk- the simple yet so important intimacy of it...
Yikes that would make me so uncomfortable.

Otoki
04-12-2010, 01:54 PM
^^Why? The sadness of it? Or the intimacy?

Guys like that are super easy for me. As long as they're nice, I feel really rewarded when I give them what they've been lacking emotionally.

Zinaida
04-12-2010, 02:13 PM
^^^Both. :/

sunshine16
04-12-2010, 03:07 PM
I never take advantage of anyone- ITC or in real life, just not my nature. However, the other night this guy approached me, seemed ok, got me a drink and asked him for a dance- he said he doesnt get dances, its just a tease blah blah (has anyone else been hearing this a lot lately besides me??) so i mentioned VIP and he started asking what he gets..I said "everything fun thats legally possible babe" he wanted more details (and no, def wasn't cop he had come from work w/3 of his buddies wearing company shirts lol) so I said let me know you.. and then he went into that "another club i was at anything goes as long as you have protection" I politely informed him I'm not a prostitute, and this is NOT a whore house.

Now, would you girls have led him on (of course not promising extras or anything like that) and try to get him to VIP or just walk? Afterwards I thought about it, that maybe I should have led him on (though not even sure how to do that without specifically saying you'll get X) since he wanted to treat me like a whore, take his money..funny enough I came back to check on them and he had to leave because he had a curfew from his wife- so what do you girls do or say to guys like that?

bayexoh
04-12-2010, 06:19 PM
As for the last post... ^ There are a TON of smart ass ways to answer that. In my experience, guys that come in with that attitude are trying to test you. Obviously, this isn't their first rodeo. Now, either this dude doesn't have money at all and has worked up quite the excuse as to why he can't go do a dance because he doesn't want to be embarrassed in front of his friends ESPECIALLY from work. OR he is trying to push you to see why he can make you say.

To that I would've said: "Well obviously you're not at this other club for a reason... if you're wanting that kind of treatment I would suggest going back to the club that you are usually at. You can try and find someone here who will do those things but it's really going to be a waste of your time. Unlike "those clubs" our managers watch us because they don't like trash in our club. By the way next time you're at your "regular club", I would suggest bringing some Purel with you." So, you're right on. A lot of guys that come up with shit like that are looking for a challenge. The girl that plays the "hard to get" role can be very intriguing. I had a regular for two years that was a club customer for years prior to me. He liked me because the first time he bought me off the list, I wouldn't let him so much as touch my legs.

Leading guys on can lead to a LOT of trouble that I'd prefer to avoid during work. ie: managers hearing you and thinking you're up to no good, an issue when it comes time to pay (well you have to come to my hotel and get your money)... I've even heard of guys calling my club to bitch out management because they wanted a refund because a girl promised that she'd do extras and didn't put out or come to their hotel and never showed.

NEVER feel sorry for taking someones money!! EVER! That is our job!! It's not like were taking money from ten year olds who don't have a developed thought process. These are GROWN ASS MEN. Do you think credit card companies have any sympathy because someone was tipsy and spent a grand buying something online? No. Do casinos give refunds? No. These people are adults. Strip clubs aren't exactly a new thing. They've been around for a good while. I don't care if you're paying me thousands out of your son's college tuition money. If I am that good and can be that persuasive?? Then I say hell yeah, JOB WELL DONE!!

You girls are crazy feeling sorry about getting paid. I am not at work to make friends with the girls there or ESPECIALLY the guys that come in. If you are then I might reconsider your job.

sunshine16
04-12-2010, 09:12 PM
^^ Thanks, thats a good line- I definitely would never ever promise anything I wouldn't do, no bait and switch, just..i dont know, get him to get a dance for treating us like whores? lol. I did tell him there are other clubs that would be glad to take care of you, and even asked if hes calling me a whore with the cute pouty face, which made him feel like crap and he apologized. good asshole. He wasnt trying to sound cool in front of his friends since we weren't talking right next to them- and after he left I went back and said 'ohh whered your friend go!' apparently to go home to his wife for 'curfew' hahaha...in which I told them 'really? cuz he was really mean and asked me for sex'..they said 'well whats wrong w that if you enjoy it' i then told them its called prostitution if you have sex for money, wished them well, and walked away.

As much as I'd love to think this situation won't happen again..i'm sure it will-just trying to find a good way of somehow getting them to go to vip without insinuating any extras, but still promising fun? I tried the 'well let me show u how much fun youll have..' etc, didnt seem to work though !

Jessie_tinydancer
04-13-2010, 01:47 AM
Honestly I don't have patience for implying something exciting will happen. I never use words like "lets go have fun". When guys ask what they get I am honest. If they are going to go for it in 2 mins then I'm off to someone else who does get how a strip club works. I'm not down with fighting off grabby hands, and I don't like to hear complaints about what they got somewhere else or from someone else or for less money.

I was the OP here in general I usually try to make customers love me LOL. I want to be booked with the same guy for as long as possible, not one off dances. Those "what do I get" guys are only going to get one dance with me because they are not going to get extras (really can't do them where I work anyway, but I never did them in higher contact places either). And I really don't mind taking tons of their money... if they have tons. I just hate taking it from guys in the OP who don't have any and really can't afford it.

camille27
04-13-2010, 02:01 AM
no, ma'am. not ever.

hot4ablackchick
04-13-2010, 03:30 AM
Leading guys on can lead to a LOT of trouble that I'd prefer to avoid during work. ie: managers hearing you and thinking you're up to no good, an issue when it comes time to pay (well you have to come to my hotel and get your money)... I've even heard of guys calling my club to bitch out management because they wanted a refund because a girl promised that she'd do extras and didn't put out or come to their hotel and never showed.

NEVER feel sorry for taking someones money!! EVER! That is our job!! It's not like were taking money from ten year olds who don't have a developed thought process. These are GROWN ASS MEN. Do you think credit card companies have any sympathy because someone was tipsy and spent a grand buying something online? No. Do casinos give refunds? No. These people are adults. Strip clubs aren't exactly a new thing. They've been around for a good while. I don't care if you're paying me thousands out of your son's college tuition money. If I am that good and can be that persuasive?? Then I say hell yeah, JOB WELL DONE!!

You girls are crazy feeling sorry about getting paid. I am not at work to make friends with the girls there or ESPECIALLY the guys that come in. If you are then I might reconsider your job.

Yup, we have had a girl get fired for promising and not delivering at my club, because guys would actually call and bitch about it when she never showed up at their hotel room.

I would never feel sorry for taking advantage of someone, because I don't take advantage of people. I simply do my job. I don't run credit checks to get an idea of your income and debts to see what you can afford to spend in the strip club. I really don't care whether a customer can afford whatever he is spending in a SC. No other business should or would care, so as a business woman why the hell would I??? I can't remember getting into personal discussions about clients financial problems. I don't make a bunch of false promises. Pretending to like customers is our job!! Its our job to make them feel special and important. Thats not taking advantage IMO.

setian
04-13-2010, 10:59 AM
If someone wants to degrade me by having me take my clothes off and dance for him i ll degrade his wallet.

I love this. Kinda tit for tat but right on. I think on similar lines when my SO does some typical male BS. "yup, that's one more thing you got yourself marked up to for pay later." It's not my personality and I really shake my head in disappointment...But oh is it so satisfying. }:D

sunshine16
04-13-2010, 12:37 PM
I love this. Kinda tit for tat but right on. I think on similar lines when my SO does some typical male BS. "yup, that's one more thing you got yourself marked up to for pay later." It's not my personality and I really shake my head in disappointment...But oh is it so satisfying. }:D

Yeah it is really satisfying :) And I love your icon by the way haha. It's really not my personality either, but I'm a feminist as well and jasmines right- if guys are going to degrade us..well, pay up :D