View Full Version : Housewives should be thankful for stripclubs
Kellydancer
04-10-2010, 08:40 PM
Kelly, I am one of those guys who has a stay at home wife and does what he wants. I also would not have married someone who wanted to continue working while my children are young. Having said that, I love and appreciate my wife dearly and could never consider leaving her.
One night I was sitting in a TX strip club (I am on the road a lot), pretty drunk, and the bartender asked me why I was there (I forgot to take my ring off - oops). She probed me about what I do when I go to clubs and I told her I do whatever I want, which includes a girlfriend who bartends at a SC in my home state and three "special friends" in other cities (as well as club visits all over). She assumed that I must have been unhappy in my marriage, which I told her was not remotely the case. Hell, my wife is even hot and fantastic in bed.
She then asked me, "Then why do you do this."
I responded, "Because I can."
I hope you are a troll because you are disturbing. So you wouldn't have married a woman with a career and you have a girlfriend? You are truly a class act (not).
xoAnnaBanana
04-10-2010, 09:12 PM
^^^Ooookay... that sounds very disturbing/disgusting and EXTREMELY arrogant. Why would you have a wife and kids at home while you're out doing whatever you want... Wtf. That's just completely selfish and heartless.
And... why is it that your wife isn't allowed to have a career but you're allowed to sleep around?
Someone's got their priorities WAY fucked up.
xoAnnaBanana
04-10-2010, 09:36 PM
^^^The act of you (a "fairly good looking guy") having sex with "hot women" (other than your wife) is DISGUSTING. What you DO is disgusting, how you BEHAVE is disgusting, so you're pretty much disgusting.
And in terms of you sleeping around and hiding it from your wife, that's pathetic. You're like Tiger Woods/Jesse James, you think you're invincible until you get caught. And even if you don't, karma's a bitch. So I seek solace in that.
As far as what's best for your children... BULLSHIT... That's pathetic that you're trying to justify this!!! I think what's best for any children is having good parents to look up to, ones in a successful marriage. I wouldn't say that a marriage is successful when there's a dooshbag cheater husband who's out banging chicks while your wife/their mother is staying at home, raising YOUR children, etc.
And you've made it clear that you don't want your wife knowing-- so clearly she doesn't know about "the deal" that you have going on-- where you pay for everything... so somehow that gives you the right to sleep with other women. How the hell is that even?
Like I said, your priorities are WAY fucked up.
xoAnnaBanana
04-10-2010, 09:51 PM
^^^I think I just threw up in my mouth.
Kellydancer
04-10-2010, 10:02 PM
^^^The act of you (a "fairly good looking guy") having sex with "hot women" (other than your wife) is DISGUSTING. What you DO is disgusting, how you BEHAVE is disgusting, so you're pretty much disgusting.
And in terms of you sleeping around and hiding it from your wife, that's pathetic. You're like Tiger Woods/Jesse James, you think you're invincible until you get caught. And even if you don't, karma's a bitch. So I seek solace in that.
As far as what's best for your children... BULLSHIT... That's pathetic that you're trying to justify this!!! I think what's best for any children is having good parents to look up to, ones in a successful marriage. I wouldn't say that a marriage is successful when there's a dooshbag cheater husband who's out banging chicks while your wife/their mother is staying at home, raising YOUR children, etc.
And you've made it clear that you don't want your wife knowing-- so clearly she doesn't know about "the deal" that you have going on-- where you pay for everything... so somehow that gives you the right to sleep with other women. How the hell is that even?
Like I said, your priorities are WAY fucked up.
I still think it's a troll. I mean his only posts are in this thread.
Kellydancer
04-10-2010, 10:06 PM
Not sure what is disgusting about a (fairly) good looking guy having sex with hot women, but fair enough on the disturbing front.
In terms of my sleeping around, she will never know know about it if I can help it. My frequent work travel sort of covers that up.
In terms of a career, it is not about her or I, it is about what is best for our children. My girls get huge benefit from having their mother as the primary caregiver. One has nothing to do with the other - even if I was not a dog, I would still want my children raised by their mother rather than shoved into a daycare center.
The deal is simple - I pay for a big, beautiful house and put steaks in the freezer, pay for private school for our oldest (and soon our youngest too), and pay for household help (full time) to make things easier for my wife. Her job is to make sure our little princesses are raised well. We each have our jobs, and what I do on the side is something else.
What's wrong with cheating on your wife? Let's see, the act of marriage! Unless you are swingers/have an open marriage this isn't cool. Besides, hate to tell you, but I know many healthy kids raised by two working parents.
Anyway not sure why I am responding since you are obviously a troll. Probably a teen boy who reads Penthouse Forum.
chris91
04-11-2010, 03:01 PM
If it is any small consolation, any friend of mine crtainly knows about my wife, so I have never misled in order to get laid.
Yeah, you just misled in order to get married. You're a lowlife piece of garbage.
chris91
04-13-2010, 05:03 AM
My only purpose in commenting was to debunk the notion that guys who fool around do not love or respect their wives. Nothing could be further from the truth.
There is no moral justificaion for what I do, nor do I need one. I do what I do and that is it.
Simply saying that you love and respect your wife does not make it true. You clearly do not respect her. You made a promise to be faithful to her, which you break on a regular basis. You joined a stripper support forum and immediately began bragging about your "special friends".
You put your wife's health and you children's stability at risk. You could catch something from one of the skanks you're banging and bring it home to your wife before you even knew you had anything. Condoms do not protect against herpes. You could get one of these girls pregnant. Your wife could find out in any number of different ways, and your kids would have to deal with the reality that their father is a cheating dirtbag liar who wouldn't give up a couple of skanks to protect his family from being hurt.
A man who repeatedly cheats on his wife and keeps a "girlfriend" on the side, is one of two things: A fucking asshole, or a demented sociopath. I'm leaning towards sociopath since you don't seem to feel any guilt. There is something wrong with your brain.
sxcbbw
04-13-2010, 06:23 AM
I really fail to see how "You give men hardons! For money!" isn't the moral highground compared to "I cheat on my wife! For fun!"
chris91
04-13-2010, 06:40 AM
What fascinates me are morality speeches from girls that make their living by trying to give guys hard-ons. Hey, I get it, you live by a code, never do "extras", etc. (to the extent that it is true - maybe for you), but you are hardly preaching from a position of moral authority. Of course I suspect that we will need to agree to disagree about that also. ;)
While I may sometimes find myself conflicted on the morality of my job, I don't think it compares to what you are doing. I occasionally do things that don't feel right, at my job and in my personal life. Then, I feel bad about it and add it to my list of things that I will never do again.
You are knowingly and repeatedly doing something that could easily destroy your wife and your children. The people that you are supposed to care most about.
Everyone makes mistakes. Normal people learn from them. Sick people do what you are doing. I will keep my fingers crossed for your family. They are very unlucky to be stuck with you.
pierrepaul
04-14-2010, 02:31 PM
Troll or no troll, there are guys like Rickdugan all over the place. Guys who lead double lives, who treat their wives reasonably well, are good at covering it up and do care for their wives and families in their own twisted way.
Sometimes they get caught; sometimes they don't. Sometimes their own wives feel neglected and start screwing around; sometimes the wives remain faithful.
If Rickdugan is real, he's playing with fire and is risking the respect of his daughters (and sacrificing time he could be spending with them) to chase pussy. But men have been thinking with their dicks for millenia, and that's not about to change.
jack0177057
04-14-2010, 06:05 PM
A lot of married men go to strip clubs. They see it as a compromise between being faithful in their marriage, i.e. not sexing ladies outside of marriage, and wanting a place to relax and have a little fun to enhance his otherwise boring life. If not for stripclubs, he may go crazy!
I agree with this,... but, I'm not saying its a good thing. The problem, at least from the husband's POV, is that married woman with children get so caught up being mommy and housewife (or career woman) that they forget how (or don't have time) to be sex goddesses to their husbands. Sex becomes like a chore to them - like laundry, cleaning the house, etc. My ex-wife was like this. We had decent sex, but often it was rushed and with very little foreplay. Sometimes, it felt like she was performing a chore.
Although I can have an erection very quickly and can be made to orgasm quickly,... for a really top-notch sexual experience, I need extended foreplay like what you get at the SC - lap dancing to music, slow undressing, erotic clothing, hair and breasts teasing my face, sensual touching, etc. I went to SCs for this erotic entertainment. If my ex-wife had provided this to me at time, there would have been no need.
Admittedly, variety is another factor. Men can be madly in love with one woman, but they will lust for other women and desire a variety of sexual partners. There is something in the male brain that makes men desire variety in sex partners. The SC lets a married man have some intimacy with a variety of beautiful women in a controlled setting - without committing adultery.
With a little effort, a wife can re-tap her sex-goddess power and eliminate the need for her husband to visit the SC. The trend towards pole-dancing and strip-aerobics for "normal" woman is very positive. My current GF and former GFs have indulged me with lap dances, sexy costumes, etc., and I have very little need to visit the SC. (I might go once every 1-3 months, just out of habit.) Role playing can satisfy the husband's need for variety. A wife can play the role of a sexy nurse, secretary, stewardess, etc., and indulge her husbands fantasies.
All this is said from the husband's POV. I'm sure a lot more can be said from the wife's POV - like how husbands need to be more romantic, share more of the housework, etc.
sugartaste
04-15-2010, 12:25 PM
My only purpose in commenting was to debunk the notion that guys who fool around do not love or respect their wives. Nothing could be further from the truth.
There is no moral justificaion for what I do, nor do I need one. I do what I do and that is it.
How would you feel if you found your wife was fucking the pool guy while you were on your "business trips"? 'Cause, you know, she probably is.
girlfromipanema
04-15-2010, 02:06 PM
I agree with this,... but, I'm not saying its a good thing. The problem, at least from the husband's POV, is that married woman with children get so caught up being mommy and housewife (or career woman) that they forget how (or don't have time) to be sex goddesses to their husbands.
Men can be madly in love with one woman, but they will lust for other women and desire a variety of sexual partners. There is something in the male brain that makes men desire variety in sex partners.
Women are required by a man to be beautiful career women, mothers, housewives, and sex goddesses...what a list of demands. Too bad she can't just be herself and not have to put on all these masks just to be loved.
No, not all men desire a variety of sexual partners. This too is stereotyped conditioning imposed by society and culture. In fact, there are several women who desire multiple partners as well. None of this is hard-wired in the brain.
Cheating, as displayed by rickdugan's word vomit, more has to do with a lack of affinity with the opposite sex, a disregard for the emotional health of one's partner, and cowardice and selfishness in the inability to say, "I want to see other people."
chris91
04-15-2010, 02:10 PM
I agree with this,... but, I'm not saying its a good thing. The problem, at least from the husband's POV, is that married woman with children get so caught up being mommy... blah blah blah more crap about how men NEED sex and wouldn't cheat if there wives were better at giving it to them.
Did I fall asleep in a delorian and end up back in the 1950's?
girlfromipanema
04-15-2010, 02:19 PM
Did I fall asleep in a delorian and end up back in the 1950's?
Lol, exactly. ::)
rubyredlipsss
04-15-2010, 02:38 PM
i'm not in a good mood and i don't care if i get a point or w/e but rick, you're the biggest piece of shit...your kids and wife would be better off without you. you may think you're invincible but everything comes out eventually and the effects of what you're doing will create an array of emotional problems for both your wife and kids. and psycho-babble? you truly must be suffering from narcissistic personality disorder or a sociopath. gtfo of our forum, you sick fuck.
sxcbbw
04-15-2010, 02:53 PM
Did I fall asleep in a delorian and end up back in the 1950's?
Sometimes, when you make posts like this, I have this crazy urge to ply you with shoes and tell you I love you. Then I'm like shut up ho, stop falling in love with sassy internet bitches, it never turns out right.
Yeah, I really don't get the "foreplay is XYZ things that women do to men, and I didn't get it from my wife so I got it from someone else" - foreplay's a mutual thing. If it sucked, you also sucked at it, Jack. Why weren't you a sexual god for her? Why would you die without "erotic entertainment"? Did you give your wife "erotic entertainment"?
zippy092
04-15-2010, 02:56 PM
Rick
I hope your kids find you what a disgusting piece of shit you are and never look up to you as a role model. Who knows, maybe your daughters will grow up to become strippers and learn what a scum bag of a father you are. Your just the wallet to them, and they dont need you for that. Their mother is the one who is providing them with love and care - something you will never do and something they wont accept from you since you do not know what care and love is.
Ill be laughing when your wife leaves you and you become a poor scum bag that you already are.
jack0177057
04-16-2010, 04:09 PM
Women are required by a man to be beautiful career women, mothers, housewives, and sex goddesses...what a list of demands. Too bad she can't just be herself and not have to put on all these masks just to be loved.
What about the list of demands placed on men? ... I don't want to get started on that -- maybe it can be the subject of a different thread.
My point is that an attractive and sexy woman should not cease to be a sex goddess just because she gets married and has kids... The benefits of being a sex goddess -- at least once in a while -- is both for herself and her marriage. Married women that are taking pole dancing, strip-aerobics, etc. seem to say they are doing it for themselves, and their husbands get to enjoy the incidental benefits. If my GF gives me better lapdances than the girls at the SC, plus extras (and doesn't even charge me money), what incentive is there to go to the SC? But, if there is no sex goddess at home, then I go see them at the SC.
sxcbbw
04-16-2010, 04:13 PM
^I'm sorry, are you trying to tell us that to keep a man from "needing" to go to an SC, she has to be a better stripper than a stripper?
jack0177057
04-16-2010, 04:23 PM
^ She doesn't have to "be a stripper" - that's just one of many ways to be a sex goddess. Here is just an example of the basic elements: (1) Dressing Very Sexy/Erotic - could be slutty, stripper wear, fantasy/costume, fetish, or classy (expensive lingerie), and (2) Extended Foreplay & Teasing - this could be lap dances and stripping, but other options include: dancing together, bubble bath, sensual massages, playing with melted chocolate, roleplaying, BDSM, etc.
When a wife/mom is "too busy" to do this (at least once in a while) and starts treating sex like a chore she has to perform and get it over with, that's when the husband discovers that he prefers to spend time at the SC rather than sleep with his wife.
sxcbbw
04-16-2010, 04:31 PM
^And what exactly does a sex god do to please his woman before she discovers the pool boy?
girlfromipanema
04-16-2010, 04:55 PM
What about the list of demands placed on men? ... I don't want to get started on that -- maybe it can be the subject of a different thread.
Indeed Jack, there are social demands placed on men as well, such as the role of a provider or breadwinner, but people are starting to rise above these cookie cutter roles and respect and consider each other as individuals, each capable of being whatever it is they choose.
You are only as bound to societal pressures as you allow yourself to be.
I prefer to love someone just as they are, without requiring them to perform any pony tricks for me. If you are sexually adventurous, or in need of a variety sexual encounters whether it be role playing or whatever, that is wonderful, but that's your choice and your business. It has nothing to do with men or women in general.
jack0177057
04-16-2010, 06:21 PM
^And what exactly does a sex god do to please his woman before she discovers the pool boy?
I am the pool boy... if that's her fantasy.
rubyredlipsss
04-16-2010, 06:38 PM
thanks i do take care of my own issues...and yeah i take medication because i have to. do not even start to try insult me by saying pop another anti-depressant, that's just ridiculous and clearly ignorant, as if 'popping' an extra anti-depressant would do anything for me.
why are you here? just to insult strippers and try to cut them down to make yourself feel better or that you're morally more superior to justify your actions? everything you post is disgusting and if i ever met you in a club i would see right through you and you'd receive a nice 8 inch stiletto to your balls. the more you post the more i think you suffer from npd, which you probably will never recognize because narcissist usually never seek help or admit it.
jack0177057
04-16-2010, 06:46 PM
I prefer to love someone just as they are, without requiring them to perform any pony tricks for me. If you are sexually adventurous, or in need of a variety sexual encounters whether it be role playing or whatever, that is wonderful, but that's your choice and your business. It has nothing to do with men or women in general.
I agree with you, but I also think sex is an area were each party indulges the other with a few "pony tricks" like sensual massage, oral sex, fantasies, etc... I don't get much pleasure out of teasing and rubbing my GF's clit, but I do it until she orgasms. Even though she has only had sex with 2 serious boyfriends before me and is very "vanilla", I discovered one day that acting like we were complete strangers excited her, so on special occasions, I am her "stranger" and act out her fantasy.
There is a thread here about a girl whose considering leaving her BF because he does not satisfy her in bed. He orgasms, but doesn't perform any pony tricks for her. She's pissed.
About the married men that spend a lot of time in the SC - some might be jerks with wonderful wives, but who prefer to look at younger and prettier girls. They have no reason to be there. But, in my case, I was looking for eroticism because my ex-wife was treating sex like a chore.
chris91
04-16-2010, 11:39 PM
My wife and kids will never know about what I do.
Can I borrow your crystal ball? I too would like to look into the future and make sure that none of my condoms will ever break.
I screw dumb stripper hoes in certain cities while I travel and then go home and take care of my family - end of story.
I'll bet your mother is very proud of you.
girlfromipanema
04-17-2010, 03:16 AM
I agree with you, but I also think sex is an area were each party indulges the other with a few "pony tricks" like sensual massage, oral sex, fantasies, etc... I don't get much pleasure out of teasing and rubbing my GF's clit, but I do it until she orgasms. Even though she has only had sex with 2 serious boyfriends before me and is very "vanilla", I discovered one day that acting like we were complete strangers excited her, so on special occasions, I am her "stranger" and act out her fantasy.
There is a thread here about a girl whose considering leaving her BF because he does not satisfy her in bed. He orgasms, but doesn't perform any pony tricks for her. She's pissed.
About the married men that spend a lot of time in the SC - some might be jerks with wonderful wives, but who prefer to look at younger and prettier girls. They have no reason to be there. But, in my case, I was looking for eroticism because my ex-wife was treating sex like a chore.
Although we do not take the same approach to relationships, I agree that there is give and take involved in the sex act itself.
I see we are on the same page now. I was just making the point that anecdotal evidence does not make a sufficient argument for any generalization or stereotype such as "there is something in the male brain that makes men desire variety in sex partners."
girlfromipanema
04-17-2010, 03:46 AM
Of course I would never tell her that I want to see other people. I love her dearly and never want to hurt her like that.
Rick, even when you take extra precautions in keeping your philandering a secret, there is a chance that your wife may find out. Chances are, she may not be that oblivious to what is going on, but tolerates it nonetheless, or is in denial. Some people have a way of knowing when someone is being deceitful.
Most probably, yes, your wife would be hurt if you told her you want to see other people. But would her life end at that moment, or would she eventually get over it and move on? Depending on how strong of a person she is, she probably would eventually be okay. So is the issue really about hurting her, or is it about losing her?
Anyway, you seem quite content with yourself, which is bizarre. By bragging about your adultery on this forum you are trivializing the severity of the situation, and mocking the very person you want to protect.
Christyismyalias
04-18-2010, 03:08 AM
In terms of what I do, disgusting it may be to you, what I do helps a few girls who would othersie have less. My girlfriend, and 2 of my 3 special friends, get different types of help from me and they are all single mothers. More children eat better because of what I do, as distasteful as you may find it.
Thank you for saving the world. We owe you so much.
Try another justification....That one didn't work.
What fascinates me are morality speeches from girls that make their living by trying to give guys hard-ons. Hey, I get it, you live by a code, never do "extras", etc. (to the extent that it is true - maybe for you), but you are hardly preaching from a position of moral authority. Of course I suspect that we will need to agree to disagree about that also. ;)
My goal is not to give anyone a hard-on. Some actually treat the job as entertainment and many men come in for strictly that. Others, like you, treat the job as a brothel and unfortunately, there are lots of guys like you.. Which makes me even more sad for our society than I was before reading your disturbing posts.
On the other hand.. Thank goodness for us "immoral girls" or you wouldn't have this website to post on, and prove to the world what a moron you are! And you wouldn't have the "dumb stripper hoes" to cheat on your wife with.. Thank god most of us here are smart enough to know your type and not give you the satisfaction.
I really hope your wife already knows of the true man you are and just takes as much money from you she can (since that is obviously all anyone needs you for) and does in fact marry the poolguy... And move to the caribbean on your dime.
The real shame in this whole thing is your children. And you truly have no idea what you are doing to them. I only hope they don't blame themselves for their fathers pathetic attempt (or lack thereof) at parenthood.
chris91
04-18-2010, 07:12 PM
^^He'll never get it, Christy. His brain is broken.
sloppymonkey
04-18-2010, 07:46 PM
It's been my experience that men like Rick make up about 20% of the male population. They are members of the Dark Triad. A pathology similar to a sociopath.
Unfortunately they ruin the women they come in contact with... adding to the problem is the fact that women haven't unlearned their attraction to confidence. Since these horrible men are by definition confident, they have the opportunity to mess up many women. It's a vicious cycle.
I mean look at how many women Tiger has damaged.
rubyredlipsss
04-18-2010, 08:42 PM
oh of course i'm not in the position of having moral authority cause i'm just some dumb stripper ho, right? oh wait, i forgot, i never claimed to have moral superiority...because i don't have that mentality. glad we cleared that up and glad to see you're out of the pink side, stay out and all will be a-okay with me.
Christyismyalias
04-19-2010, 01:50 AM
Guys cheat and you know this. How many guys come into your club with a ring mark on their fingers, but no rings? How many of those same guys end the night with a "sticky finish?" (maybe not in your club but in those of many reading this thing) Are you turning that money away out of moral principle?
The hypocrisy of the comments I received on this is mind boggling. How many of those reading this have boyfriends and husbands, but make sure that their customers leave "happy?" Again, perhaps you are the lead Nun in the convent, but many reading this can't say the same. Hell, many of the girls that I have ended up with were making a cash stop on the way back home to a boyfriend or other.
And the comment about not looking to give a guy a hard-on? That is BS - of course you want to get him worked up - that is when he ponies up the $$$. At least be honest with yourself about how you make your money.
At least I am honest about what I am and what I do.
Fuck you. I am honest with myself and how I make my money. Hard-ons are not appropriate.. If it happens ok but if I see it or if he is trying to play with it, no. I back up and let him calm down. The ENTERTAINMENT part of the biz does not include erections.
And many of us here do not leave our customers "happy". There are NO sticky finishes. You are annoying. Goodbye!
^^He'll never get it, Christy. His brain is broken.
You are so right, why am I wasting my energy..
chris91
04-19-2010, 05:59 PM
The hypocrisy of the comments I received on this is mind boggling.
Again, you need to look up the definition of the word "hypocrisy". If I were cheating on my spouse while telling you not to cheat on your spouse, that would be hypocrisy. Nobody here is doing that.
"You're a hypocrite" is an accusation that idiots throw out when they don't want to talk about the topic at hand. It doesn't work on me. Regardless of what I am, you are still a piece of trash.
threlayer
05-03-2010, 12:36 PM
Many people have the wrong idea : you do NOT OWN the person you are married to.
Marriage is a personal (and legal) contract entered into by people who want to be in it -- at the time. Religion notwithstanding, it may not be for life, though it may be very romantic to think of it that way. Spouses are not the other's property; they are not servants; they are not even indentured servants. They are there for mutual support and for raising families. There are other ways to get support and even raise families. There are also legal advantages in being married. But there is no permanent ownership rights, and in spite of romantic and religious 'marriage vows', the individuals are still individual with rights and personal wants.
Now I think there are lots of advantages in being married, as well as responsibilities and disadvantages, those being worked out by the individuals involved, not be society or even precedent.
I suppose it is caused by passions, but people, by and large, are just not very realistic when entering into marriages. Those passions also can cause people to seek fulfillment of many kinds outside of marriages, a few of which seem to cause great stress to at least one spouse. So people have to want to be sexually faithful, as religon, legalities, and old emotions are often not strong enough incentives to hold that part of the contract together. This part of a marriage is pretty vulnerable over the years, but if it remains a lot of fun for each, chances are it can hold together. Other than that, there is only goodwill or the (financial and emotional) consequences.
lolwut
05-03-2010, 12:45 PM
I can second what someone said earlier about their wife treating sex like a chore.
Even though I always want to go the SC, I hardly ever get to, but when I am there I make myself believe the hustle. I have had only one person ever in my life (I am nearly 40) ever 'come on to me' for my body etc. I liked her so much, I was super respectful to show her that I really liked her. She dropped me because I wasn't screwing her.
Fast forward 22 years and now I am in a marriage with zero heat. In fact, it's been gone virtually since it started (20 years now) and no, I am not some lazy frat boy manchild. I do 90% of the cooking, 90% of the dishes, 100% of the laundry, the yardwork etc.... I try to make it so my wife doesn't have to do anything (she does work...otherwise we wouldn't eat...thats how things are these days)
Anyway, my point here is that not all married men are coming to the SC to be total dicks. We come for the attention that we are really missing.
I know that I am being hustled, but if I can convince myself and the hustle is REAL good...for those few minutes I get to feel like there is one woman on the planet that likes me and wants my body etc...
Of course, then I feel guilty for spending money on something for myself and feel worse than I did before.
But that's how it is to go through life as a loser.
hockeybobby
05-03-2010, 04:17 PM
Sounds like you need a fresh start ^^