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yoda57us
04-28-2010, 05:16 PM
I've had girls sit with me so that they would look busy and I've had them ask me to leave them sitting alone so that they could attract business. I never go into a strip club, walk over and sit next to any dancer I know even if she is sitting alone. I find a seat, relax and wait for her to come to me.
Kellydancer
04-28-2010, 05:19 PM
I've had girls sit with me so that they would look busy and I've had them ask me to leave them sitting alone so that they could attract business. I never go into a strip club, walk over and sit next to any dancer I know even if she is sitting alone. I find a seat, relax and wait for her to come to me.
But going from your posts, I assume you are the customer (correct me if I am wrong) that when you come in the dancers are happy to see you because you know what's up. I never got the feeling you bugged dancers.
KS_Stevia
04-28-2010, 06:03 PM
But going from your posts, I assume you are the customer (correct me if I am wrong) that when you come in the dancers are happy to see you because you know what's up. I never got the feeling you bugged dancers.
Of course not, he's there to patronize the business. If yoda wants to hang out with a stripper for free...he can come visit me and we can go to a bar, lol!
Kellydancer
04-28-2010, 06:11 PM
Of course not, he's there to patronize the business. If yoda wants to hang out with a stripper for free...he can come visit me and we can go to a bar, lol!
He spends quite a bit and that makes him the perfect customer in my book. I wish I had more regulars like him.
gqdiamond
04-28-2010, 06:13 PM
i've had one regular who is great. he's an older lonely guy- very "lost". all he ever wants to do is talk. we sit on the couch in the vip room about 2 feet away from each other and chat. he's never wanted or asked for anything more. but i can always count on him to come in every other saturday for me.
i guess it depends on what kind of relationship (if you want to call it that) you have with that person. you can tell if he's looking for a therapist or a mistress.
WestCoast101
04-28-2010, 09:40 PM
(i've tried to avoid this issue, but someone requested i comment so i can add this minor point): if you happen to be a guy like me that goes to alot of different clubs and, instead of wasting time waiting for dancers to come up, instead I prefer to approach them, however if they are talking with a customer ( paying or not) I'm not going to bother with them
point is if the no pay "friend" customer is constantly doing hang time, that girl is off the table for myself and many other guys like me. So she is losing out on money, because when i instgate the situation to find out more about her etc i'm tipping them with or w/o buying dances. or just tipping them alot if the convo is extended. These are usually very hot girls i go up to, so if i were a freebie customer i would feel damn guilty about taking these girls time, since they are on a job.
yoda57us
04-28-2010, 10:39 PM
But going from your posts, I assume you are the customer (correct me if I am wrong) that when you come in the dancers are happy to see you because you know what's up. I never got the feeling you bugged dancers.
You are absolutely right Kelly. I never go into any of my regular clubs unless I am planning to spend money on a favorite dancer or two. Even if I am visiting a lady that I am friendly with outside of the club I still would not go in unless I was planning on spending money. I still prefer to take a seat by myself and wait for them to come to me. This way I know they are not in the middle of a business transaction. Honestly, I can't remember the last time I walked into a club and any dancer I know was sitting by herself and I'm not about to interrupt a lady when she is sitting with someone. I can wait.
And yes, they are always happy to see me, as I am to see them!
yoda57us
04-28-2010, 10:46 PM
Of course not, he's there to patronize the business. If yoda wants to hang out with a stripper for free...he can come visit me and we can go to a bar, lol!
Can I buy you a lap dance? }:D
bem401
04-29-2010, 05:40 AM
I would get up and walk away to another area of the club if you came over and sat down unsolicited.
So would many other dancers, I've seen it happen, I've done it.
As would my friends if they thought it in their best interests (with my approval, BTW). It depends on the specifics of the situation and the girl in question. Hell, on occasion, I've been invited to join a dancer friend and her customer at the bar, something I don't particularly feel comfortable doing. My friends have also asked me to try to keep a customer occupied at the bar while they make some $$$ elsewhere, in the hopes it will keep him there for her and not lead to him to patronizing another girl. And as far as me joining a friend or two at the bar, there is always eye contact first, so its never really uninitiated. I would never sneak up behind them and take a seat.
Similar to what yoda said in post 251, sometimes the girl wants me there. Other times she wants to be alone. I'm good either way.
And again, I'm not there to take up anyone's time. If they want to kill some time with me, that's their prerogative. If it was important to me to talk to any one of them, I wouldn't run to the club to do it. With one exception among those I consider friends, I have more to do with them when they are not working than when they are.
Tdonuts
04-29-2010, 06:04 AM
I have a friend who works in a shoe store. Sometimes when I need to kill and hour or two, I will stop in and sit in a chair, appear to be a customer. But, I have no intention of buying or even trying on any shoes, in fact I barely even notice I'm in a shoe store. I may not even talk to my friend who works there or any of the other employees. I'm just killing time. It works out better than going to a club- I don't have to buy a drink...or pay a door fee. win-win
yoda57us
04-29-2010, 06:32 AM
Similar to what yoda said in post 251, sometimes the girl wants me there. Other times she wants to be alone. I'm good either way.
Of course the primary difference being that I am actually there to spend money on them...yes, even the ones who are friends.
BEM, anything "similar" about our respective visits to strip clubs starts and ends upon walking through the front door of the club.
Everyman
04-29-2010, 06:50 AM
I've heard bar trolls use that same type of reasoning, that they just want to talk during my "down time." But yes, if it is so slow that I have down time then at least let me look available. Customers wanting to talk to me for free who don't spend money on me are annoying to me period, even if they may otherwise be interesting. My line of reasoning is that I am at work, my attention is a service I charge for, and they are just trying to get it for free. I always get up and walk away, and when they ask me why after trying to join me for a few weeks, I politely explain this. I will not chat for an hour in the hopes of a few dances later on, when the club is busy and I could find another less anoying customer anyways.
Now, I haven't taken bem's side much in this thread, because at heart I think there is a sexual or "attraction" reason why he visits his stripper friends at work, and nothing he says will ever convince me otherwise.
But on this point, I have to go with him. Dee, some strippers are like you, and some are not. I don't take the time of those who are "all business" and don't want me, as a bar troll, occupying their time. Fine.
But others welcome a normal, interesting bar regular to talk to from time to time when money is not otherwise happening. How do I know this? Because many many times I'll be in my regular club and girls I'm friendly with (but not IRL "friends") will come and sit and chat when they don't feel like hustling. It happens, dear.
And if bem's friends are like that, more power to him. Not all strippers hate non-paying customers.
KS_Stevia
04-29-2010, 07:24 AM
Can I buy you a lap dance? }:D
Hells yes!!! }:D
yoda57us
04-29-2010, 09:59 AM
Hells yes!!! }:D
Flight to South Texas: $400
Hotel: $100 a night on priceline
Night at a strip club: $2 to $4 small...or whatever it takes...
Watching KS squirm under a hot Latin stripper: Priceless!
Honestly, what more could a middle-aged SC junkie/perv ask for?
KS_Stevia
04-29-2010, 12:23 PM
Flight to South Texas: $400
Hotel: $100 a night on priceline
Night at a strip club: $2 to $4 small...or whatever it takes...
Watching KS squirm under a hot Latin stripper: Priceless!
Honestly, what more could a middle-aged SC junkie/perv ask for?
I'm in if you are, my schedule is pretty open these days. :P I got the perfect Asian for you. ;D
bem401
04-30-2010, 05:32 AM
Of course the primary difference being that I am actually there to spend money on them...yes, even the ones who are friends.
BEM, anything "similar" about our respective visits to strip clubs starts and ends upon walking through the front door of the club.
Your second sentence makes no sense. Our 'similarities" start upon entering the club? Yoda, there is one and only one similarity : we both appreciate Asian ladies. End of story.
Just more proof of you considering yourself a luminary. I merely was agreeing with what you wrote. Under no circumstances would I ever try to present myself as a customer similar to you (or anyone else for that matter). I once had been a customer not terribly unlike you (except for the commute) but it stopped working for me and I moved on.
bem401
04-30-2010, 06:21 AM
Now, I haven't taken bem's side much in this thread, because at heart I think there is a sexual or "attraction" reason why he visits his stripper friends at work, and nothing he says will ever convince me otherwise.
But on this point, I have to go with him. Dee, some strippers are like you, and some are not. I don't take the time of those who are "all business" and don't want me, as a bar troll, occupying their time. Fine.
But others welcome a normal, interesting bar regular to talk to from time to time when money is not otherwise happening. How do I know this? Because many many times I'll be in my regular club and girls I'm friendly with (but not IRL "friends") will come and sit and chat when they don't feel like hustling. It happens, dear.
And if bem's friends are like that, more power to him. Not all strippers hate non-paying customers.
Eman, I used to visit to patronize a certain level of Asian girl when I was a customer. There is only one of them currently remaining and she's pulled the plug on us doing dances any more (I've referred to her often) . Most of the girls I'm friendly with hold none of the same appeal for me as dancers but that doesn't mean we're incapable of becoming friendly. Its why I can say the place is not a SC club to me any longer. Now, if there was a sudden influx of Cambodians or Filipinas here, I might be tempted to see the club differently.
yoda57us
04-30-2010, 07:59 AM
Your second sentence makes no sense. Our 'similarities" start upon entering the club?
That's not the complete sentence BEM. It makes sense in it's entirety. Wow, you really are desperate aren't you...
Just more proof of you considering yourself a luminary. I merely was agreeing with what you wrote.
BEM, I guess you just haven't figured out but I don't care if you "agree" with me as long as you couch it in a feeble attempt to legitimize what you do in a strip club.
I walked in way after six last night and didn't have to pay a cover...maybe their is something to that luminary thing after all...::)
yoda57us
04-30-2010, 08:01 AM
I'm in if you are, my schedule is pretty open these days. :P I got the perfect Asian for you. ;D
I have no time off until July...definitely something to ponder!}:D
bem401
04-30-2010, 09:58 AM
That's not the complete sentence BEM. It makes sense in it's entirety. Wow, you really are desperate aren't you...
Read the whole sentence. I know I'm a math guy, but it makes no sense whatsoever. Similarities don't begin or end anywhere if they don't exist at all (Thank God!).
BEM, I guess you just haven't figured out but I don't care if you "agree" with me as long as you couch it in a feeble attempt to legitimize what you do in a strip club.
My comment wasn't directed at you anyhow, but in the typical narcissistic fashion of someone filled with self-importance, you think it revolved around you. As far as me "trying to legitimize what I do", I have no problem with it, my friends have no problem with it, and the club has no problem with it. No one else matters. Never has, never will. I'm not the one running from club to club and website to website in search of some sort of acceptance.
I walked in way after six last night and didn't have to pay a cover...maybe their is something to that luminary thing after all...::)
Wow! I'm impressed. BTW, neither I, nor anyone with me, has paid a cover there in years when visiting at night. I'd begin talking again about how regulars get treated in RI, but BTDT, and you already seem to think you know more than RI'ers about how things operate down here. Just keep telling yourself you're some sort of icon if it makes you feel good.
Phil-W
04-30-2010, 10:26 AM
I once had been a customer not terribly unlike you (except for the commute) but it stopped working for me and I moved on.
Bem,
If you go into a strip club and you're not (a) a dancer or (b) an employee then you're a customer.
There is no "friend of a dancer" category that miraculously turns you into a non-customer.
My excursions into strip clubs are - without exception - to pick up dancers, but I never play the "I'm a driver - I don't have to pay" card. I don't buy private dances - haven't for years. But that doesn't stop me tipping each girl that comes up to me after her stage show and asks for a tip. In most cases I won't have paid any attention, but I still tip without fail
You are in the dancer's place of work and it is extremely disrespectful not to contribute towards her income.
Yes, I only go into clubs at the specific request of dancers, but I still regard it as entirely legitimate for the other dancers working to treat me as a customer. I'm in there, from time to time I catch glimpses of them nude, and therefore I tip.
The only way not to be a customer is not to go into the strip club in the first place.
(Which incidentally I'm doing tonight. The dancer asked me to pick her up from outside, and that's exactly what I'll do. No making of excuses from me so I can go inside and see her working.....)
Phil.
yoda57us
04-30-2010, 02:34 PM
My comment wasn't directed at you anyhow, but in the typical narcissistic fashion of someone filled with self-importance, you think it revolved around you. As far as me "trying to legitimize what I do", I have no problem with it, my friends have no problem with it, and the club has no problem with it. No one else matters. Never has, never will. I'm not the one running from club to club and website to website in search of some sort of acceptance.
Acceptance? Dude, I have a family, a good career and a happy life. The people who matter to me accept me as I am. In strip clubs I am looking for a good time with naked women. On sites like this I am looking to kill some time. You insist on trying to judge me based on the fact that I go to strip clubs just as you judge women who dance in them. Stripping is a job and being a customer in a strip cub is a fun way to pass time. It's not that big of a deal BEM, settle down...
Wow! I'm impressed. BTW, neither I, nor anyone with me, has paid a cover there in years when visiting at night. I'd begin talking again about how regulars get treated in RI, but BTDT, and you already seem to think you know more than RI'ers about how things operate down here. Just keep telling yourself you're some sort of icon if it makes you feel good.
LOL, there you go with that "RI is special" bull crap again. Guess what, I've been going to strip clubs in RI longer than you have and working at bars, nightclubs and other venues all over the state for 25 years. I don't need a lesson from you about how things work 50 miles south of Boston BEM. It's really no different anyplace else that one might visit. If you had ever been anywhere else you would know that.
bem401
05-01-2010, 10:33 AM
Bem,
If you go into a strip club and you're not (a) a dancer or (b) an employee then you're a customer.
There is no "friend of a dancer" category that miraculously turns you into a non-customer.
My excursions into strip clubs are - without exception - to pick up dancers, but I never play the "I'm a driver - I don't have to pay" card. I don't buy private dances - haven't for years. But that doesn't stop me tipping each girl that comes up to me after her stage show and asks for a tip. In most cases I won't have paid any attention, but I still tip without fail
You are in the dancer's place of work and it is extremely disrespectful not to contribute towards her income.
Yes, I only go into clubs at the specific request of dancers, but I still regard it as entirely legitimate for the other dancers working to treat me as a customer. I'm in there, from time to time I catch glimpses of them nude, and therefore I tip.
The only way not to be a customer is not to go into the strip club in the first place.
(Which incidentally I'm doing tonight. The dancer asked me to pick her up from outside, and that's exactly what I'll do. No making of excuses from me so I can go inside and see her working.....)
Phil.
Phil-
Apparently it differs club to club. The layout of the only club I visit is such that I can be in there and not partake of any of its SC aspects rather easily. There are no "stage shows" per se as you've described at the places you visit. Four girls or so go up on stage and provide high contact stage dances for the guys who visit them. I only visit the stage at their request and, when I do, the typical contact is non-existent. On the rare occasion that I walk by the stage and make eye contact with a dancer, especially one with whom I'm friendly, I generally tip. If I ever were to pay any real attention to what any girl did on stage, I'd be peeling off the bills while I did it. There is no circling the club looking for tips after a stage set either. If my club operated like yours, I'd probably find it hard not to behave exactly the way you do.
Believe or disbelieve this, but I pay next to zero attention to the nudity in the club. Have I caught a glimpse here and a glimpse there? Sure, its a SC. But only one girl there (the one mentioned earlier in the thread) exists, of whom I could give a critique of her lapdances and a thorough physical description from the neck down, and that'd be 3+ years old anyway.
I agree, its an unusual situation to be in, but it is where I find myself.
bem401
05-01-2010, 10:41 AM
You insist on trying to judge me based on the fact that I go to strip clubs just as you judge women who dance in them. Stripping is a job and being a customer in a strip cub is a fun way to pass time. It's not that big of a deal BEM, settle down...
Show me where I judged a single woman ever for working in a SC.
I comment on you in response to your (and your cohorts) attempts to do exactly that to me.
And you were the one impressed with the fact you got comp'ed at the door. My point was it was absolutely no big deal, something you appear to be agreeing with now.
yoda57us
05-01-2010, 01:11 PM
Show me where I judged a single woman ever for working in a SC.
Here's the thing BEM, I don't have to show you anything. I am allowed to read the body of posts that you have put up here over time, as well as the endless emails that I put up with until you went too far, and form my own opinion about you based on what I read. You may be a fine human being IRL but on this board you continually act like a narrow minded twit and in private communication you are a busy-body gossip monger.
I comment on you in response to your (and your cohorts) attempts to do exactly that to me.
LOL, Cohorts? A bunch of other folks on a message board who agree with me, or at least, don't agree with you..."cohorts" LMAO!
And you were the one impressed with the fact you got comp'ed at the door. My point was it was absolutely no big deal, something you appear to be agreeing with now.
It was a JOKE BEM. This would be a lot easier for you if you had a sense of humor...::)
bem401
05-02-2010, 10:55 AM
Here's the thing BEM, I don't have to show you anything. I am allowed to read the body of posts that you have put up here over time, as well as the endless emails that I put up with until you went too far, and form my own opinion about you based on what I read. You may be a fine human being IRL but on this board you continually act like a narrow minded twit and in private communication you are a busy-body gossip monger.
Here's the thing. You jump to conclusions because you are so wrapped up in the sex monger thing. You can't cite a single instance where I did what you claimed and show where I criticized a girl for dancing. You also jump to the conclusion that any comments about dancers away from the club are comments about them doing business OTC (which may or may not be the case, only the people involved know). In other words, we're coming from two very different places. You eat, sleep, and drink all aspects of being SC PL/ hobbyist 24/7 and I kill some time here and there with people who make money off guys like you.
LOL, Cohorts? A bunch of other folks on a message board who agree with me, or at least, don't agree with you..."cohorts" LMAO!
I guess I imagined the attempt on the blue side by your cohort (one of the girls whose asses you kiss nauseatingly endlessly) to turn the White Knight thread (which I've not participated in) into an attack on me by posting something to which you responded.
yoda57us
05-02-2010, 11:24 AM
You also jump to the conclusion that any comments about dancers away from the club are comments about them doing business OTC (which may or may not be the case, only the people involved know).
That's not true now and it wasn't true when I banned you from my email box BEM. The bottom line is you share information with total strangers that is told to you in confidence by your "friends". You don't know me. I'm a faceless guy on the internet who just happens to like the same kind of women that you do. Is that a basis for trust? I could be a stalker, or an ex BF or SO on line looking for information about these dancers that you call friends. You have no business mentioning anything that is discussed with your friends or even anything that you may have witnessed or know about to anyone else.
It's called privacy and trust BEM. Two things you apparently have no respect for when it comes to your friends. Honestly, I question if you even understand the meaning of the word. If appearing to be an "insider" to total strangers on the internet is more important than protecting people that you supposedly care about then I guess you don't!
It has nothing to do with me assuming anything about anyone. It only has to do with you being a gossip and a busy-body.
yoda57us
05-02-2010, 11:31 AM
I guess I imagined the attempt on the blue side by your cohort (one of the girls whose asses you kiss nauseatingly endlessly) to turn the White Knight thread (which I've not participated in) into an attack on me by posting something to which you responded.
You didn't imagine anything BEM but that has nothing to do with me. KS and I are two different people who live thousands of miles apart but happen to be friends. She has her own mind. I "kiss" lots of ass on this board and in the strip clubs BEM. There are lots of things that you can buy in a strip club with cash but there are also things that you only get by being a nice guy. I love women and being nice to them is what I do. I'm not going to apologize for that...
Actually, given your stance here on this board and the topic of that thread I think it was a fair question...
bem401
05-02-2010, 12:32 PM
That's not true now and it wasn't true when I banned you from my email box BEM. The bottom line is you share information with total strangers that is told to you in confidence by your "friends". You don't know me. I'm a faceless guy on the internet who just happens to like the same kind of women that you do. Is that a basis for trust? I could be a stalker, or an ex BF or SO on line looking for information about these dancers that you call friends. You have no business mentioning anything that is discussed with your friends or even anything that you may have witnessed or know about to anyone else.
It's called privacy and trust BEM. Two things you apparently have no respect for when it comes to your friends. Honestly, I question if you even understand the meaning of the word. If appearing to be an "insider" to total strangers on the internet is more important than protecting people that you supposedly care about then I guess you don't!
It has nothing to do with me assuming anything about anyone. It only has to do with you being a gossip and a busy-body.
I shared no information that was confidential or even possibly unflattering, nothing requiring concealment from anyone as I presented it. I made the mistake of sharing absolutely innocuous vague information with someone who transformed it into something it was never meant to imply and then ran with it. I realized my error when the same person interpreted a sports picture as kiddie porn. Mistakenly, I initially gave that person credit for being as normal as the rest of the people with whom I had contact. I was wrong. It was my first encounter with someone so consumed by the sex business that things absolutely non-sexual could be twisted into something outrageous.
yoda57us
05-02-2010, 02:22 PM
BEM, how many times are you going to try and go down the same road? Nothing has changed dude. You are an indiscriminate busy body trying to impress anyone that you can with your "insider knowledge". I am not trying to make anything "sexual" I am simply appalled that you violate the privacy of others to begin with. Friendships are built on trust. I know it's a foreign concept to you but that's how I go about things.
As much fun as this little pissing contest is BEM you really need to come up with something better than insisting that I am an obsessed 24/7 card carrying pervert and you are a guy who can walk through the door of a strip club and transform it into a place where the naked women aren't naked. It just doesn't work BEM.
By the way, just for the record, you can walk up to the stage, drop a tip in front of a lady, smile, nod and walk away without her having to grind on you. This BS you keep floating of refusing to tip your dancer friends because they might have to dance seductively for you is just that, BS. If you honestly don't think that they would appreciate the tip you are truly delusional.
bem401
05-03-2010, 05:52 AM
By the way, just for the record, you can walk up to the stage, drop a tip in front of a lady, smile, nod and walk away without her having to grind on you. This BS you keep floating of refusing to tip your dancer friends because they might have to dance seductively for you is just that, BS. If you honestly don't think that they would appreciate the tip you are truly delusional.
Spoken like a true (and now self-admitted) ass-kisser.
You "remember" things I never said and "forget" things I did say or you embellish them into something I didn't say. I violated nobody's privacy though I suppose I certainly was and still am in the position to do that with any number of girls. I have come to learn though that weak-minded individuals can read things not said into innocuous comments because of certain obsessions in their lives.
Like I said, there are circumstances that bring me to the stage. The need to kiss ass is not among them. I'll go if a friend is being ignored by all but the "free-oglers". I'm not there to pay them as much as I'm there to enable them to deny free thrills to the guys in the "erection section". Some of them don't want me there even under those circumstances. I guess they appreciate something about me other than the cash they can extract from me.
Oh and BTW, there is a difference between being a nice guy and being a kiss-ass. Nice guys are the way they are because its the way they are. Ass-kissers are the way they are because they are looking for acceptance of some sort. I'll give you some credit though. You are probably the first person I've ever encountered who readily admits to being an ass-kisser.
yoda57us
05-03-2010, 06:48 AM
Spoken like a true (and now self-admitted) ass-kisser.
Again BEM. IT WAS A JOKE. Do you have even one ounce of common sense?
I have come to learn though that weak-minded individuals can read things not said into innocuous comments because of certain obsessions in their lives.
All you needed to do was look in a mirror to learn this BEM, not a big stretch. You accuse me of being obsessed but you are the one demonstrating obsessive behavior. I don't have to "remember" anything. It's all written in your own words and still sitting on a Hot mail Server...
Phil-W
05-03-2010, 10:58 AM
Believe or disbelieve this, but I pay next to zero attention to the nudity in the club. Have I caught a glimpse here and a glimpse there? Sure, its a SC. But only one girl there (the one mentioned earlier in the thread) exists, of whom I could give a critique of her lapdances and a thorough physical description from the neck down, and that'd be 3+ years old anyway.
Bem,
Me thinks you doth protest too much. Strip clubs make an income out of female nudity. It's virtually impossible to avoid seeing it. You're in the club too much not to have seen pretty well all of the girls nude.
Like I said, there are circumstances that bring me to the stage. The need to kiss ass is not among them. I'll go if a friend is being ignored by all but the "free-oglers". I'm not there to pay them as much as I'm there to enable them to deny free thrills to the guys in the "erection section". Some of them don't want me there even under those circumstances. I guess they appreciate something about me other than the cash they can extract from me.
Oh please, give me a break.
You traipse down to the stage to to whip up the tipping. Whoopee do....That doesn't square with the "I couldn't give a physical description from the neck down" quote above. You could probably tell them their cup size.....
Bem, I don't pay any intentional attention to the girls I know OTC, but I'm well aware of what they look like nude. It's impossible to be otherwise. Its their place of work; occasionally I catch of glimpse of them nude. They know I don't do it deliberately and they're not fussed about it. We're adults - it's not a big deal.
Please don't go on about "I'm the only guy in the SC who doesn't look". Because its not believable.
Phil.
hockeybobby
05-03-2010, 04:35 PM
So Bem...every guy who tips up at the stage is a kiss-ass? Except you. You're doing it for totally altruistic reasons, and not so they'll think you're "special", and above it all...right?
KS_Stevia
05-03-2010, 11:09 PM
I'm really tired and haven't read all of this, except for the sex monger part. And I really like that tittle, think I will start introducing myself as, "K, sex monger, at your service."
bem401
05-04-2010, 05:52 AM
So Bem...every guy who tips up at the stage is a kiss-ass? Except you. You're doing it for totally altruistic reasons, and not so they'll think you're "special", and above it all...right?
"Kiss-ass" was a reference to what yoda said he did both in the club and here on the board.
bem401
05-04-2010, 06:14 AM
Bem,
Me thinks you doth protest too much. Strip clubs make an income out of female nudity. It's virtually impossible to avoid seeing it. You're in the club too much not to have seen pretty well all of the girls nude.
You traipse down to the stage to to whip up the tipping. Whoopee do....That doesn't square with the "I couldn't give a physical description from the neck down" quote above. You could probably tell them their cup size.....
Bem, I don't pay any intentional attention to the girls I know OTC, but I'm well aware of what they look like nude. It's impossible to be otherwise. Its their place of work; occasionally I catch of glimpse of them nude. They know I don't do it deliberately and they're not fussed about it. We're adults - it's not a big deal.
Please don't go on about "I'm the only guy in the SC who doesn't look". Because its not believable.
Phil.
Phil-
I vist the club like once a week for an hour or so. I generally have company at the bar so there is seldom the time and opportunity to pay much attention to the stage show, plus its hardly the seat to do that from. I visit the stage like once every other month for 10 minutes or so and only under the circumstances I described.
When I do visit the stage, the dance I get is the farthest thing removed from a typical RI dance. Guys around here getting typical dances could probably give a better description than guys getting dances elsewhere. I'm just there to provide interference to the looky-loos as someone once called them.
I have already admitted catching occasional glimpses of nudity (well, toplessness) because it is a SC. My reaction and that of my friends is much like yours. Its unintentional and sometimes unavoidable but it is not a big deal to anyone.
yoda57us
05-04-2010, 06:38 AM
I'm really tired and haven't read all of this, except for the sex monger part. And I really like that tittle, think I will start introducing myself as, "K, sex monger, at your service."
That's what I'm talkin' about!}:D
KS_Stevia
05-04-2010, 09:37 AM
I "kiss" lots of ass on this board and in the strip clubs BEM. .
The buttocks are a sensitive area full of nerve endings. Caressing it, squeezing it, kissing it, even smacking it a bit is quite the aphrodisiac. Then things can get even more depraved but I'm already OT.
The above is for Bem. Just sayin, ass-kissing is a wonderful thing.
yoda57us
05-04-2010, 10:30 AM
The buttocks are a sensitive area full of nerve endings. Caressing it, squeezing it, kissing it, even smacking it a bit is quite the aphrodisiac. Then things can get even more depraved but I'm already OT.
The above is for Bem. Just sayin, ass-kissing is a wonderful thing.
OK, I know that was for BEM, but I've got full wood right now...just sayin'...}:D}:D}:D
KS_Stevia
05-04-2010, 10:41 AM
You're such an ass-kisser yoda. How do you live with yourself? You know, being nice to people for no reason at all, treating them with respect, not wasting their time, yet personally enjoying your interactions with everyone at all times? Can you sleep at night, being insulted by STRANGE MEN ON THE INTERNETS WHOSE ENTIRE GOALS IN LIFE ARE TO BASICALLY RIP OFF WOMEN TRYING TO DO THEIR JOBS?
What's wrong with you man? ;)
yoda57us
05-04-2010, 11:05 AM
I'm sick I tell ya'! Sick and twisted!! OK, I also an ass man....
What I find fascinating is the insistence by our friend the Ocean State bar fly that I see everything through the eyes of a sex-craved pervert. The reality is that I treat every woman I know, including dancers and escorts as women first. The reason I can spend money on them one night and have dinner with them of the clock a few nights later is because they see me the same way I see them...as a friend, as a woman or man...as another person who just wants to have a little fun in life. It's no more complicated than that.
KS_Stevia
05-04-2010, 01:02 PM
I think you get what you want because you don't insist on pushing people past their boundaries. Also, you tend to visit women who are a bit more mature and professional, who have stayed in this industry because they enjoy the job enough to keep it a choice, hence you aren't putting anyone out by forcing them to do a job they don't want to be doing.
Conversely, at least from what Bem writes here, his lady friends are burnt out and past the time they want to continue to be dancing, its easy to unload on each and every customer at that point.
I've been in both places, most dancers have. Its not the toughest job in regards to the duties of the occupation, but its one of the hardest jobs to stay in an not work out.
That's why any stripper, regardless of her tenure in the business or level of burn out, will ALWAYS appreciate a kind, respectful customer who spends reasonably over a regular who demands their attention and patience for little to no financial gain.
Oops, got off-topic again, sort of.
yoda57us
05-04-2010, 04:21 PM
I think you get what you want because you don't insist on pushing people past their boundaries. Also, you tend to visit women who are a bit more mature and professional, who have stayed in this industry because they enjoy the job enough to keep it a choice, hence you aren't putting anyone out by forcing them to do a job they don't want to be doing.
That sums it up pretty well. Every dancer that I am friendly with or a regular with is over 30. Just about all of them have college degrees and choose to keep dancing because they want to, not because they have to. It doesn't mean they love getting naked for strange men, just that they can handle the negatives in order to enjoy, and profit from, the positives...
Boundaries? The dancer always sets them and I always respect them. In spite of continued inuendo to the contrary I have never asked a dancer for OTC or even for off-the-clock social meetings. When it happens it always comes from their end. As others have said here over the years, when a dancer is interested she will let you know. It's puzzling to me that I keep getting accused of not respecting dancers when in fact it is the amount of respect I show them that allows me to reap the benefits that I do. Indeed the only act that my happy and well adjusted dancer friends find disrespectful is showing up to see them at work, where they are trying to earn a living, with no money to spend.
I can't really speak to the mental state of most of BEM's dancer friends. I only know one of them well and she seems to have a pretty good handle on things. She's been dancing for quite a long time, takes breaks when she needs to and is never lacking for business...I like girls who are busy and productive. I only spend moderately compared to a lot of high roller types. I don't like being the cash-cow regular that a girl is waiting to see...
Oops, got off-topic again, sort of.
On the contrary, I am a regular and the stuff we are talking about here is how I maximize my ongoing relationships with my favs.
bem401
05-05-2010, 07:54 AM
That's why any stripper, regardless of her tenure in the business or level of burn out, will ALWAYS appreciate a kind, respectful customer who spends reasonably over a regular who demands their attention and patience for little to no financial gain.
Gee, ya think??? Where did I ever say anything contrary to this? Actually, the kind, respectful part is strictly a bonus.
KS_Stevia
05-05-2010, 08:41 AM
Gee, ya think??? Where did I ever say anything contrary to this? Actually, the kind, respectful part is strictly a bonus.
No, you don't understand. Here's the the thing; When a sales person is burnt out, they tend to keep the negative with them, and espouse that versus the good experiences. Hence, your lady friends complaining about so many customers and so many regulars doesn't mean they hate them all.
Even in my most miserable, low, burnt out times in sales, stripping and otherwise, I always reveled in the time spent with my best clientele...and those weren't just the ones that spent...but ones that were fun to work with.
Ones that just spent, and made my life difficult, still go into the "shitty cust" bin, to complain about.
Its not just a stripping thing, its sales in general, IMO. Have you ever worked in a direct sales type of industry Bem?
bem401
05-06-2010, 05:25 AM
No, you don't understand. Here's the the thing; When a sales person is burnt out, they tend to keep the negative with them, and espouse that versus the good experiences. Hence, your lady friends complaining about so many customers and so many regulars doesn't mean they hate them all.
Even in my most miserable, low, burnt out times in sales, stripping and otherwise, I always reveled in the time spent with my best clientele...and those weren't just the ones that spent...but ones that were fun to work with.
Ones that just spent, and made my life difficult, still go into the "shitty cust" bin, to complain about.
Its not just a stripping thing, its sales in general, IMO. Have you ever worked in a direct sales type of industry Bem?
I think we are actually in agreement here. I never said they complained very much about specific customers, though they do like to poke fun at other regulars they refuse to dance for and speak disparagingly of the job and customers in general.
Your second paragraph and the last phrase of my most recent post are pretty much synonymous.
Never done direct sales myself, but have done plenty of work in a restaurant and country club pro shops that require you to deal with the whole spectrum of clientele and you have no choice but to deal with people you'd rather avoid.
KS_Stevia
05-06-2010, 06:20 AM
Never done direct sales myself, but have done plenty of work in a restaurant and country club pro shops that require you to deal with the whole spectrum of clientele and you have no choice but to deal with people you'd rather avoid.
Not the same thing as stripping. Any job these days forces you to deal with people you'd rather avoid.
bem401
05-07-2010, 05:07 AM
Not the same thing as stripping. Any job these days forces you to deal with people you'd rather avoid.
I never claimed they were the same. I just answered your question about sales.
paladine
05-08-2010, 09:42 PM
No girl has ever called me a regular. I've been to countless strip clubs and spent thousands of dollars all in the name of fun. But never on the same girl twice.
I once went to club and had bunch of money on me and was so hammered. I got so many dances off this one girl and she tried the whole " here's my number, let me know when your coming into town again " and I threw it away as I walked out the door.
Came back the next night cause it was another day off for me and had alot of money on me again and was looking for a good time. None of the girls would come up to me so was finishing my drinks and was about to leave to go to another club and she walked in. Came right up to me and said " Sorry I can't dance for you tonight, I'm going clubbing with my friends ", and I was all like " umm I don't want you to dance for me " and she replied " Didn't you ask for me? My friend said you asked for me ", and I was like " what? I haven't talked to any of the girls here tonight, they won't come up to me ".
One night of fun and she assumed I was her regular HAHAHAH! :D. She left to go back to the club with her friends and I learned that the girls there wouldn't talk to me because of her. I went to another club and dropped a bunch of money laughing about how crazy the stripping business is. Amazed that women think they own certain guys and they follow a code like that. Crazy stuff.