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KS_Stevia
05-09-2010, 12:47 PM
Its not so much a code as it is some bitches be crazy and the others don't want to get shanked in the dressing room. Lol.
But otherwise, it is professional courtesy.
paladine
05-09-2010, 04:19 PM
It seems silly to me. Your all there to make money. If a guy isn't giving money to one girl, well next girl gets her turn. I had a bunch of cash on me that night and was ready to party and none of the girls would come up to me. That one girl had staked a claim on me. F'k that!
After she left to go back clubbing with her friends I finished my drink and went to a different club and spent my money there. There was some hotties at the first club I wanted some dances from, but that silly code prevented them from making money?
yoda57us
05-09-2010, 05:21 PM
It seems silly to me. Your all there to make money. If a guy isn't giving money to one girl, well next girl gets her turn.
In my experience the easiest way to get around this if you are a club regular is to spread your money around. I happen to be a guy who likes to cultivate regular dancers but I rarely go to the same club twice in a row. Dancers get less attached to your individual cash contribution if they don't see you every week.
Ultimately no dancer owns a customer. If you say no to a girl sooner or later the other girls will figure this out and approach you.
KS has a point though. Logic is often trumped by a psycho-bitch in the dressing room telling other girls to stay away from her customer.
KS_Stevia
05-10-2010, 12:06 AM
It seems silly to me. Your all there to make money. If a guy isn't giving money to one girl, well next girl gets her turn. I had a bunch of cash on me that night and was ready to party and none of the girls would come up to me. That one girl had staked a claim on me. F'k that!
After she left to go back clubbing with her friends I finished my drink and went to a different club and spent my money there. There was some hotties at the first club I wanted some dances from, but that silly code prevented them from making money?
Just invite some girls over as they walk by, or get the waitress to bring them over. If they do start coming by after she's gone and offering dances, then they were just extending prof. courtesy to her. If they still avoid you, they are afraid of her. Anyway, its not like that in all clubs with all girls.
However, in my years, there are a few girls that I've been so afraid of, I wouldn't come near anyone that they have verbally laid a claim on. These are girls I have seen beating another girls face into a pulp. Thousands of dollars in hospital bills are not worth a few hundred in my pocket. Again, this isn't the norm in everywhere.
Its not a code, its self-preservation.
KS_Stevia
05-10-2010, 12:12 AM
Logic is often trumped by a psycho-bitch in the dressing room telling other girls to stay away from her customer.
I think its pretty logical to avoid being assaulted. Its management's responsibility to protect the others from these crazy ho's but it just doesn't always happen.
Ya know, thinking about it, I've never once had any other strippers confront me for dancing for their regular. If they were pissed, no one told me. And its super EASY to find out who the boxer/brawler in a club is and stay away from her custies.
Regulars sometimes dig themselves into their own hole by not having a backbone and needing to grow a pair. They might have a submissive streak because they let these crazy hos own them, then miss out on the opportunity for variety, and end up needed to go to a different club they don't like as much, or quit alltogether.
CUSTIES-LADIES AND GENTLEMEN - This is the area where you get to be in control. The choice of dancers is yours. Don't be an enormous sopping pussy.
lopaw
05-10-2010, 06:47 PM
Regulars sometimes dig themselves into their own hole by not having a backbone and needing to grow a pair. They might have a submissive streak because they let these crazy hos own them, then miss out on the opportunity for variety, and end up needed to go to a different club they don't like as much, or quit alltogether.
CUSTIES-LADIES AND GENTLEMEN - This is the area where you get to be in control. The choice of dancers is yours. Don't be an enormous sopping pussy.
You're absolutely right, of course. This kind of dancer-possessive shit seems to happen to me all the damn time, and it's really my own fault for letting the dancer(s) run my show. I'm slowly growing a spine when it comes to telling the dancing-divas "no", and find myself not having to avoid my fave clubs now for fear of running into HER!
Is it wrong that the "enormous sopping pussy" comment gave me fem-wood? :O
yoda57us
05-11-2010, 07:13 AM
I think its pretty logical to avoid being assaulted. Its management's responsibility to protect the others from these crazy ho's but it just doesn't always happen.
I agree a thousand percent. Every story I have ever heard along these lines pretty much left the dancers on their own. The only time management got involved was when it came time to call an ambulance or fire girls for fighting.
Regulars sometimes dig themselves into their own hole by not having a backbone and needing to grow a pair.
It took me a few years to figure this out. Maybe part of my problem was that the first clubs I went to didn't offer lap dances. it was all stage money and everything from stage movements to costumes was strictly controlled. No real competition for customers though the "cheap-ass guy who sits at the bar, watches the girls and doesn't tip" existed even back then. When I started going to LD clubs I was shocked to find out that there really was no sisterhood of strippers. it was every woman for herself and my first reaction was to switch clubs when too many dancers at one place wanted my money.
CUSTIES-LADIES AND GENTLEMEN - This is the area where you get to be in control. The choice of dancers is yours. Don't be an enormous sopping pussy.
Yup, Once I figured this out I also became much more attracted to the dancers who did not try to claim customers as their territory. I don't spend enough or visit enough to be anyone's sugar daddy and none of my current favs are the possessive sort. It doesn't mean that they don't want my money of course but that's part of the reason that they are favs.
Margie
05-15-2010, 02:14 AM
Need advice on a regular who may be losing enthusiasm: he was my first private dance, and right off the bat refused to pay more than $10 (going rate is $20. I gave him a $10 dance since it was my first, intending to charge him the full price next time - but over the past year, I've been happy to continue doing $10 dances for him because he comes in like clockwork every day I work, and until recently always bought at least 2 but usually 3 or 4 dances. The past few days I worked, however, he's only gotten one dance from me and then got another dance from a different girl (not the same girl each time, so it's not like he's picked a replacement yet).
This could be just a phase for him, but if he continues to only by one dance from me or becomes less reliable, I don't want to give him the frequent flier discount any more. I'm pretty sure he will drop me as soon as I demand more than $10. I'm debating it. Maybe I can up the price and accept that he'll stop seeking me out, but on really slow days I can go to him and offer the old $10 price "just for old times sake"?
Margie
05-15-2010, 02:24 AM
Also, if I decide to up the price on him, what reason should I give? Should I be honest and tell him it's because he's stopped buying in bulk? I've never told him that was the reason I danced for $10 for him - though I have told him he's the only one who gets that price from me. I just let him fill in the blanks with whatever he wants as to why he's special.
I could instead tell him I have to start charging more because my landlord raised my rent or something. That might help him understand that the bottom line is I need more money, so he can choose whether to give me that by paying more per dance or by getting lots of dances.
Anyway, advice appreciated.
yoda57us
05-15-2010, 07:43 AM
Can you afford to lose his business? If you can I would just tell him very nicely that you can't afford to give him half price dances anymore and see what happens. I'm assuming that when he dances with other girls he is paying full price?
I'm not going to tell you how to do your own business but, in my mind, he is taking advantage of you and I'm quite certain he knows it.
He may be a regular but he's not a particularly good customer. These are the same guys who show up when there is a dance special, buy only the special and then sit at the bar and not buy anymore dances or leave as soon as they get there half price or 2 for 1 dance. In their mind they are doing nothing wrong. You have to decide if this kind of business is worth the aggravation.
KS_Stevia
05-15-2010, 11:00 AM
Fuck that with a baseball bat. You fucked up with that discount dance crap. You KNOW this predator pulls that shit on every new girl and just revels in it. Instead of losing money sitting with him and doing 50% discount dances...I'd fucking ignore his ass completely.
Also, tell each and any new girl coming in to avoid him like the plague. Don't sell yourself short, he knows what he is doing. He's been manipulating YOU the entire time and doesn't deserve an explanation.
I can't believe you've let this go on for months. Bad stripper, no cookie for you!
Kellydancer
05-15-2010, 11:25 AM
Need advice on a regular who may be losing enthusiasm: he was my first private dance, and right off the bat refused to pay more than $10 (going rate is $20. I gave him a $10 dance since it was my first, intending to charge him the full price next time - but over the past year, I've been happy to continue doing $10 dances for him because he comes in like clockwork every day I work, and until recently always bought at least 2 but usually 3 or 4 dances. The past few days I worked, however, he's only gotten one dance from me and then got another dance from a different girl (not the same girl each time, so it's not like he's picked a replacement yet).
This could be just a phase for him, but if he continues to only by one dance from me or becomes less reliable, I don't want to give him the frequent flier discount any more. I'm pretty sure he will drop me as soon as I demand more than $10. I'm debating it. Maybe I can up the price and accept that he'll stop seeking me out, but on really slow days I can go to him and offer the old $10 price "just for old times sake"?
If you were a newbie and I caught you doing that, I would have cornered you never to do it. If I then knew you kept continuing to do it, I'd tell others you were doing that. Dancers HATE other dancers who give discount dances. Having said that, I understand in SOME cases giving discounts, but not him. For instance I did bachelor parties and would give a few super regulars (I'm talking guys who bought parties very often) a discount. I knew that I'd get another party from them so it paid off. However, I wasn't working with anyone so I could.
Jessie_tinydancer
05-16-2010, 05:16 AM
Need advice on a regular who may be losing enthusiasm: he was my first private dance, and right off the bat refused to pay more than $10 (going rate is $20. I gave him a $10 dance since it was my first, intending to charge him the full price next time - but over the past year, I've been happy to continue doing $10 dances for him because he comes in like clockwork every day I work, and until recently always bought at least 2 but usually 3 or 4 dances. The past few days I worked, however, he's only gotten one dance from me and then got another dance from a different girl (not the same girl each time, so it's not like he's picked a replacement yet).
This could be just a phase for him, but if he continues to only by one dance from me or becomes less reliable, I don't want to give him the frequent flier discount any more. I'm pretty sure he will drop me as soon as I demand more than $10. I'm debating it. Maybe I can up the price and accept that he'll stop seeking me out, but on really slow days I can go to him and offer the old $10 price "just for old times sake"?
How much is this guy giving you total per week? If it's less than $300 than I would just demand more and move on if he says no... I really don't consider anyone who spends less than $300 a "good" regular. Sure there are the ones who will get one dance each time (for me that's $50), and I am nice to them and nurture that, but Im not gonna lose sleep over someone who really isn't a big spender. The only time I have ever discounted dances is if it is the very end of the night and a guy opens a wallet and is a few dollars short and I've already asked everyone else.
KS_Stevia
05-16-2010, 09:36 AM
The only time I have ever discounted dances is if it is the very end of the night and a guy opens a wallet and is a few dollars short and I've already asked everyone else.
Oh yeah, I've done that before...like they tally their remaining cash and they have $18 and are cool, that's not problem, I will help them relieve themselves of all those heavy, pesky dollar bills. ;)
I've thrown in a free dance if they by $100 of dances in a row as well, on very, very rare occasions. That tended to get me a lot of other business, because no other girls would be selling dances and custies would see me selling multiples, so I looked in demand. Only did it a few times though, I just don't like discounting in at all, it fucks everyone.
pittcon
05-30-2010, 06:53 PM
why would a dancer let you finger her after being her regular for 5 mos?
yoda57us
05-31-2010, 08:30 AM
why would a dancer let you finger her after being her regular for 5 mos?
Well, why do you think she did?
Kellydancer
05-31-2010, 01:59 PM
why would a dancer let you finger her after being her regular for 5 mos?
My common response would be because she's a whore, but maybe there's something more to it. Maybe she likes you or maybe she works in a club where it's expected. Personally, I'd never let a customer finger me. I think that's disgusting and I don't know where his fingers have been.
WestCoast101
05-31-2010, 07:13 PM
LOL, this has to be the same russian girl who back in December frenched kissed you and asked you to eat her pussy your 3rd time together, and in Feb (after being her regular for 2 months) strill didn't know your name or even bother to ask.
Now you are asking why she lets you finger her?
These question are incredible.
Kellydancer
05-31-2010, 08:52 PM
LOL, this has to be the same russian girl who back in December frenched kissed you and asked you to eat her pussy your 3rd time together, and in Feb (after being her regular for 2 months) strill didn't know your name or even bother to ask.
Now you are asking why she lets you finger her?
These question are incredible.
I didn't catch that this was that same guy. Then my answer changes to "she's a whore and he's a pervert too".
ilbbaicnl
06-29-2010, 10:14 AM
Shelf life of a regular is pretty much in the hands of the regular. As long as you are spending money and respecting a lady's boundaries it isn't very likely that she is going to ignore your presence in the club.
If, OTOH, a regular starts demanding more time for less money or more time than a lady is willing to give trouble starts. If a guy starts asking for OTC trouble starts. If a guy starts causing drama with the lady with the club, with other dancers or with other customers he becomes more aggravation than his money is worth. These are the guys who get kicked to the curb
Clingy, whiny and creepy are not the qualities that dancers look for in a regular...
I can see all that, but I don't understand why some dancers get so mad if a (single) regular just asks to see them outside the club. I mean the typical dancer who's claiming to be single and trying to convince the regular he is special to her. I've never had a real date with a dancer, but there are a couple who have enjoyed my company OTC. It's all in the game for dancers to use the "you're so special to me" bluff, but it's all in the game for bluffs to be called. No need for anyone to get cheesed off about it. Why not say "maybe after a while", or, if the customer seems to have psycho potential, say "sorry but it never works out dating customers". Or insert the polite blow-off of your choosing, but it seems silly to be pissed/surprised by the question.
ilbbaicnl
06-29-2010, 10:18 AM
Logic is often trumped by a psycho-bitch in the dressing room telling other girls to stay away from her customer.
Weak management at the club if that kind of shit is allowed to go on.
yoda57us
06-29-2010, 04:58 PM
I can see all that, but I don't understand why some dancers get so mad if a (single) regular just asks to see them outside the club.
A lot depends on who and how you ask. I have favs who get asked for dates and just plain old sex all the time. Most will act all faltered and appreciative, while at the same time saying no as long as the guy isn't pushy or rude about it. Being asked out is part of the job I agree but a dancer also knows that once she turns the guy down there is a good chance that his money will disappear so I'm not surprised that some gals may get a bit upset when they sense the end of a money train coming.
Weak management at the club if that kind of shit is allowed to go on.
Well yeah, but that's actually pretty common...
Tdonuts
03-02-2011, 12:30 PM
1 year 11 mo. Can't put my finger on it, but it's just not what it used to be.
pcbman
03-03-2011, 05:43 AM
1 year 11 mo. Can't put my finger on it, but it's just not what it used to be.
Damn bro. Coincidentally that is almost exactly how long I last with a favorite stripper. The best part is, now you are on the hunt for your next fav!
bem401
03-03-2011, 06:10 AM
Damn bro. Coincidentally that is almost exactly how long I last with a favorite stripper. The best part is, now you are on the hunt for your next fav!
That was actually about my shelf life as a regular dance-buying customer period but it was composed of 3 different faves during that time. One's shelf life as a fave ran out after several months. Mutual decisions to pull the plug on dances transpired with the other two in shorter periods.
KS_Stevia
03-03-2011, 06:16 AM
That's so weird, to be w one stripper for so long, its almost like a relationship. But its totally common, just not for me.
yoda57us
03-03-2011, 06:29 AM
1 year 11 mo. Can't put my finger on it, but it's just not what it used to be.
Different? In what way? It's more than likely that your expectations are a bit different than hers or maybe she is taking you for granted and the dances are not as good as they used to be?
My current dance card has four girls that I have known for six years, two for seven or eight and one for ten years. Gotta be honest, they are favs because the dances get better all the time.
There have been quite a few that I only lasted a few visits with but also several that I would still be seeing if they hadn't retired. I actually met the four that I have known for six years all within a few weeks of each other when a long-time ATF retired. I had an epiphany back then and decidedthat I was less likely to become a RIL again and harbor false expectations about dancers if I spread around my money and my attention span.
bem401
03-03-2011, 08:28 AM
I think its entirely possible that things can just get old, whether it be a particular girl, a particular club, or the business in general. The amount of time that takes depends on the people involved.
yoda57us
03-03-2011, 08:35 AM
I think its entirely possible that things can just get old, whether it be a particular girl, a particular club, or the business in general. The amount of time that takes depends on the people involved.
I agree with all of this.
To me it's all about expectations. Of course, expectations can change on the part of the customer. The one constant is the expectation of the dancer to make money. In all honesty, some regulars lose sight of that. Most of the time when a dancer tells me she is dumping a regular it's because he either kept asking her out, reduced his spending or, the double whammy, starting spending less and asking her out!
bambiblue
03-03-2011, 04:56 PM
Need advice on a regular who may be losing enthusiasm: he was my first private dance, and right off the bat refused to pay more than $10 (going rate is $20. I gave him a $10 dance since it was my first, intending to charge him the full price next time - but over the past year, I've been happy to continue doing $10 dances for him because he comes in like clockwork every day I work, and until recently always bought at least 2 but usually 3 or 4 dances. The past few days I worked, however, he's only gotten one dance from me and then got another dance from a different girl (not the same girl each time, so it's not like he's picked a replacement yet).
This could be just a phase for him, but if he continues to only by one dance from me or becomes less reliable, I don't want to give him the frequent flier discount any more. I'm pretty sure he will drop me as soon as I demand more than $10. I'm debating it. Maybe I can up the price and accept that he'll stop seeking me out, but on really slow days I can go to him and offer the old $10 price "just for old times sake"?
I would advise you NEVER to give a dance for less that the regular rate...EVER. your basically doing twice the work and are getting paid half the price... and making the impression that your desperate... If he can get by with some other girl for a 10 dollar dance let him... it wouldnt be worth my time ..sounds like he's looking to see who he can get away with the most with and pay the smallest amount to do it. Guys like that are a dime a dozen... when I was still dancing, I found the guys willing to spend REAL money and left the cheap asses to the new girls. Seriously on HIS BEST day he is only spending 30 or 40 bux on you?? I say drop him... just do it politely.
Tdonuts
03-07-2011, 04:30 AM
Different? In what way? It's more than likely that your expectations are a bit different than hers or maybe she is taking you for granted and the dances are not as good as they used to be?
Like I said can't really put my finger on it. Dances had gotten progressively better (and I realize that will reach a limit) for quite a long time. But lately, they seem ho-hum, matter-of-fact.
I don't think my expectations have changed, when I'm there paying for her time -I expect to be the center of her attention. Thats pretty much it.
I don't know as my "shelf life " is expired, as much as it is stale.
bem401
03-07-2011, 07:27 AM
Like I said can't really put my finger on it. Dances had gotten progressively better (and I realize that will reach a limit) for quite a long time. But lately, they seem ho-hum, matter-of-fact.
I don't think my expectations have changed, when I'm there paying for her time -I expect to be the center of her attention. Thats pretty much it.
I don't know as my "shelf life " is expired, as much as it is stale.
It's entirely possible you might have just reached a point where visiting the clubs no longer "works" for you. Personally speaking, in the last 8 years, I've gone from a newbie to a 3- or 4-day a week regular dance or CR customer to an occasional dance-buyer to a non-dance-buying friend to someone who has only been in there once or twice in the last several months and currently isn't sure if or when he'll be in there again. Its by no means the path everyone follows but its possible the novelty and satisfaction of clubbing have just run their course for you as it apparently has for me.
yoda57us
03-07-2011, 08:14 AM
Like I said can't really put my finger on it. Dances had gotten progressively better (and I realize that will reach a limit) for quite a long time. But lately, they seem ho-hum, matter-of-fact.
I don't think my expectations have changed, when I'm there paying for her time -I expect to be the center of her attention. Thats pretty much it.
I don't know as my "shelf life " is expired, as much as it is stale.
Well, she may be bored with you as it appears that you are with her. The difference is that she is not going to stop taking your money no matter how bored she gets. If her dances are not doing it for you anymore it may just be time for you to move on to another dancer or another way to pass your time.
pcbman
03-07-2011, 12:37 PM
Like I said can't really put my finger on it. Dances had gotten progressively better (and I realize that will reach a limit) for quite a long time. But lately, they seem ho-hum, matter-of-fact.
I don't think my expectations have changed, when I'm there paying for her time -I expect to be the center of her attention. Thats pretty much it.
I don't know as my "shelf life " is expired, as much as it is stale.
I think Yoda has a healthy approach to clubbing, if that is even possible. Spread your money and time between several dancers and clubs. It helps to keep things fresh for you. I took a month off from the only local club in my area, and they were very excited to see me when I did go back.
Tdonuts
05-22-2012, 10:36 AM
Well, Good News, after what seemed to be a 10 month cool down, things couldn't be better these last 2 months. Seems like we're closer now than we've ever been.
yoda57us
05-22-2012, 12:55 PM
This thread is over a year old. It's against forum rules to bump old threads. I don't really care if it's one that you started....