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bem401
02-13-2010, 12:05 PM
What are your views of married men clubbing too much?
I've been happily married 15 years but from the first year of our marriage, I've been going to clubs. In time the frequency increased from once a month to two three times a week. On the one hand I feel guilty doing this behind my wife's back, but it's my only chance to see and touch young women. It's really exhilirating for me.
FWIW, most of the dancers with whom I'm friendly, almost without exception, have a very low personal opinion of the married guys who frequent the clubs. I was a little surprised because these guys tend to be their bread and butter but the girls really thought very little of them.
Jessie_tinydancer
02-13-2010, 07:35 PM
You're so lucky. I mean really. Dancing gave me serious, serious anger management issues.
I couldn't agree more. I am one angry stripper. LOL. But I kinda like it sometimes since in normal life I am probably too calm and collected.
yoda57us
02-13-2010, 08:27 PM
FWIW, most of the dancers with whom I'm friendly, almost without exception, have a very low personal opinion of the married guys who frequent the clubs. I was a little surprised because these guys tend to be their bread and butter but the girls really thought very little of them.
This comes as no surprise since, based on your posts here, your friends don't think much of any of their customers regardless of marital status...
I couldn't agree more. I am one angry stripper. LOL. But I kinda like it sometimes since in normal life I am probably too calm and collected. It surprises and saddens me that you are an angry stripper. Reading your posts here and there you seemed pretty upbeat.
FBR
Jessie_tinydancer
02-13-2010, 10:39 PM
^LOL I love dancing but I just get shitty with the constant stupid comments from customers. I never show them I am angry...trust me. But yes it is causing some "issues" at the moment with my own psych and anger and irritability. Basically I just wish I had more pleasant customers. Thank god for my regulars because I genuinely really like a lot of them, but that's probably part of the reason I find other guys so frustrating. Most of my regulars would give me $500-$600 without batting an eye and always treat me with respect. Without them I doubt I would last very long dancing. Although I can do the sat night young crazy drunk boys... I hate it and sometimes, like last night my confidence is low around them which effects my $$$ and makes me more grumpy haha.
Basically the OP is my ideal customer :)
jaizaine
02-14-2010, 05:24 AM
If I was your wife I would cut your balls off, marinate them and then feed them to you.
Touching other women is cheating. You suck. Lying is fucked. You suck.
When I am at work I don't give a shit. I have a great regular who is married. But just thinking that if that was done to me - such deception.....well I would be homicidal. I don't see this as hypocritical because: I play a role at work and what I accept at work and what I would accept in my own personal life are two different things. I also laugh at jokes that are not funny or clever at work. Doesn't mean I dont think the guy is a dick-head.
When married guys ask me out or for sex I keep taking their money but while I take it I think how disgusting and pathetic they are.
bem401
02-14-2010, 11:55 AM
This comes as no surprise since, based on your posts here, your friends don't think much of any of their customers regardless of marital status...
Actually, a couple of veteran bartending friends first mentioned it to me, and my dancer friends did not dispute it at all when asked. Generally speaking, customers were customers, nothing more, but they considered married regular customers seedier, not as bad as the perves, but still close to the bottom of the barrel. The girls would still entertain these guys though. Money is money.
They'd actually agree with many of the posters in this thread.
Don't worry though. None stated that they held this against you, afaik.
daniella_maria
02-14-2010, 12:04 PM
Come get dances with me. I promise not to tell your wife.
yoda57us
02-14-2010, 05:26 PM
Don't worry though. None stated that they held this against you, afaik.
Trust me BEM I'm not worried....
When married guys ask me out or for sex I keep taking their money but while I take it I think how disgusting and pathetic they are.
I think you should stand on principle and run them off. It's disgusting that a married guy would ask you out.
FBR
jaizaine
02-15-2010, 12:02 AM
I think you should stand on principle and run them off. It's disgusting that a married guy would ask you out.
FBR
LOL shocking isn't it? Although I did feel sorry for the dude who hadn't had his dick sucked in 20 years and was telling me how much he missed head. Felt so sorry in fact that I had to take about $10k and let him by me a 16gb iphone ;D;D
yoda57us
02-15-2010, 05:52 AM
LOL shocking isn't it? Although I did feel sorry for the dude who hadn't had his dick sucked in 20 years and was telling me how much he missed head. Felt so sorry in fact that I had to take about $10k and let him by me a 16gb iphone ;D;D
LOL, Don't feel too sorry for him! Damn fool could have gotten his dick sucked at least a hundred times for that much money if he had gone looking for an escort instead of a strip club...
bem401
02-15-2010, 06:28 AM
Trust me BEM I'm not worried....
Of course not. You're getting what you're paying for, right? In those circumstances, what people think of you doesn't and shouldn't matter.
yoda57us
02-15-2010, 07:41 AM
Of course not. You're getting what you're paying for, right? In those circumstances, what people think of you doesn't and shouldn't matter.
LOL, That's not quite it....
BEM, try and understand something. In spite of the fact that you seem to relish reminding me here on SW that we are acquainted with a few of the same dancers the last thing I am concerned about or interested in are the useless tidbits you post here about what they may think of me in particular or customers in general. Only one of these women is someone I consider a friend and I have known her long enough that we have talked about just about any topic you could imagine including this one. The rest of the lot are women I either don't see much anymore, barely know or have never even met other than a brief hello and a "no thank you" ITC.
I do get a mild chuckle out of the fact that your obsession with all things yoda causes you to even bring this thread and my name up in the same conversation with a stripper. I could think of much better things to talk about...
bem401
02-15-2010, 08:09 AM
I do get a mild chuckle out of the fact that your obsession with all things yoda causes you to even bring this thread and my name up in the same conversation with a stripper. I could think of much better things to talk about...
Lighten up dude, where did I say you were discussed? I said they never said that stuff about you, mainly because you are not discussed. There is one customer down there who took issue with you and has brought your name up often (much to the girls and my chagrin), but the most the girls have said to me is "that yoda guy is here, let me go try to make some money". Period.
yoda57us
02-15-2010, 09:51 AM
Don't worry though. None stated that they held this against you, afaik.
OK, forgive my assumption, I missed the disclaimer the first time I read your post.
Lighten up dude
Trust me Bem, I'm laughing my ass off every time I read or respond to one of your posts. Thanks for the laughs and please, stop assuming I take any of this seriously...
, "that yoda guy is here, let me go try to make some money". Period.
Well see, there ya' go throwing one of your "friends" under the bus Bem. Lol, and right here on the internet where they can see it! Since both of the women we both know have sworn to me that they would never tell anyone who I am you just made a liar out of one of them...
Of course, I'm not surprised (nor do I really care) but if I can't trust them can you?
See what I mean, this stuff is hysterical!
KS_Stevia
02-15-2010, 10:26 AM
Of course not. You're getting what you're paying for, right? In those circumstances, what people think of you doesn't and shouldn't matter.
Leave yoda alone. Your common ladies have a million times more respect for him than for you.
yoda57us
02-15-2010, 10:29 AM
Although I can do the sat night young crazy drunk boys... I hate it and sometimes, like last night my confidence is low around them which effects my $$$ and makes me more grumpy haha.
It's funny how many dancers I have known over the years that say the exact same thing! Most of my regular ladies have been daytime girls or at least preferred to work during the daytime or non-weekend nights. The money is there on weekend nights but so is the BS.
Several years ago I was visiting a now-retired ATF on a Saturday afternoon. It had been a slow day so she decided to work a double that night. I hung around a bit longer than usual to keep her company until the night crowd had filled in and she could go make some money. It was pretty amazing to see how her mood went from pleasant to agitated as she went from dealing with her afternoon regs to the Saturday night "Baby can I just have your phone number? I don't want to buy a dance I just want to take you home and have sex with you" crowd...
yoda57us
02-15-2010, 10:32 AM
Leave yoda alone. Your common ladies have a million times more respect for him than for you.
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::flower:
bem401
02-16-2010, 06:22 AM
Leave yoda alone. Your common ladies have a million times more respect for him than for you.
Leave him alone??? The comment had nothing to do with him specifically. My comments started as general responses to the OP, but yoda's self-consciousness and perception of himself as some sort of strip club luminary makes him think it was directed at him.
bem401
02-16-2010, 06:42 AM
Well see, there ya' go throwing one of your "friends" under the bus Bem. Lol, and right here on the internet where they can see it! Since both of the women we both know have sworn to me that they would never tell anyone who I am you just made a liar out of one of them...
Of course, I'm not surprised (nor do I really care) but if I can't trust them can you?
See what I mean, this stuff is hysterical!
I'm throwing no one under the bus. She wasn't pointing you out, just excusing herself from the seat next to me.
As far as lying is concerned, Haven't you yet figured out that's exactly what they are paid to do? You ( and I when I was a customer) pay them to pretend to give a shit about you. Haven't decades of being a SC Junkie caused that to sink in?
And as far as trust is concerned, some I would trust and some I wouldn't, just like people in the real world, which is how I, unlike you, try to view and treat them, as ordinary people.
yoda57us
02-16-2010, 07:41 AM
I'm throwing no one under the bus. She wasn't pointing you out, just excusing herself from the seat next to me.
So you expect me to believe that a guy who asks anyone in a Providence strip club with a pulse if they know who yoda is wouldn't watch who a dancer walks over to when she says she is going to try and get "that yoda guy" to spend some money on her? LOL, good one BEM, I was born at night, but not last night.
As far as lying is concerned, Haven't you yet figured out that's exactly what they are paid to do? You ( and I when I was a customer) pay them to pretend to give a shit about you. Haven't decades of being a SC Junkie caused that to sink in?
BEM, I'm all grown up. I know exactly what's going on. Your continued refusal to recognize the fact that a guy can pay a woman to dance naked for him and not lose all sense of reality is amusing if not a bit tedious at times.
And as far as trust is concerned, some I would trust and some I wouldn't, just like people in the real world, which is how I, unlike you, try to view and treat them, as ordinary people.
BEM, you have no clue how I view or treat anyone. You insist on trying to make the fact that I spend money on strippers and you don't some sort of defining factor on how we both see reality but that's just BS coming from the keyboard of a total stranger.
KS_Stevia
02-16-2010, 08:16 AM
Leave him alone??? The comment had nothing to do with him specifically, you nitwit. My comments started as general responses to the OP, but yoda's self-consciousness and perception of himself as some sort of strip club luminary makes him think it was directed at him.
Liar, you made the passive-aggressive jab at him. Even Stevie Wonder could see that. Really, man, you are enveloped in a thick fatty layer of DENIAL.
KS_Stevia
02-16-2010, 08:18 AM
And as far as trust is concerned, some I would trust and some I wouldn't, just like people in the real world, which is how I, unlike you, try to view and treat them, as ordinary people.
Your contempt isn't even hidden. Why does he not treat sex workers like real people in the real world? Are you fucking kidding me? Paying a person to do a job doesn't dehumanize them!
Do you think your dentist or your mechanic aren't human because you pay them for a service? Really, are you a simpleton or something?
LOL shocking isn't it? Although I did feel sorry for the dude who hadn't had his dick sucked in 20 years and was telling me how much he missed head. Felt so sorry in fact that I had to take about $10k and let him by me a 16gb iphone ;D;D You are ruthless. I hope you at least gave him a casual reach around when no one was looking. I mean, considering the money spent }:D
FBR
bem401
02-17-2010, 06:25 AM
Your contempt isn't even hidden. Why does he not treat sex workers like real people in the real world? Are you fucking kidding me? Paying a person to do a job doesn't dehumanize them!
Do you think your dentist or your mechanic aren't human because you pay them for a service? Really, are you a simpleton or something?
No, but I don't ask people I consider actual friends to get naked and grind on my crotch for money and that applies whether they are a dancer or not. None of the girls I'm familiar with are particularly fond of doing this. My understanding is the dancers tolerate the customers because of the financial benefits of doing so.
I entered this thread to respond to the OP's question. I specifically stated no one expressed any opinion on your customer pal personally. Any comments I made about girls' views on their customers apply to all customers, including me when I was one.
sxcbbw
02-17-2010, 06:35 AM
No, but I don't ask people I consider actual friends to get naked and grind on my crotch for money and that applies whether they are a dancer or not. None of the girls I'm familiar with are particularly fond of doing this. My understanding is the dancers tolerate the customers because of the financial benefits of doing so.
I entered this thread to respond to the OP's question. I specifically stated no one expressed any opinion on your customer pal personally. Any comments I made about girls' views on their customers apply to all customers, including me when I was one.
Do any of the dentists you're familiar with express fondness for a scale and polish?
If the dentist is your friend, you may brush your teeth beforehand, and will try not to drool on their fingers - but you'll still see your friend for a filling, it's their job and you're paying them to do it. You get to have a filling from someone you're cool being around, and they get a customer that isn't a dick.
This may be my own naivety, but getting an LD from a friend is surely a lot different to your friend giving one to a stranger. You're not going to grab, grope, lick, bite, trip up, or be an ass to your friend. They aren't going to have to stick shift you and will be fine staying within their boundaries 'cause you're a friend.
I know I sure as hell would pick one of my guy friends over a stranger, in that position.
bem401
02-17-2010, 06:44 AM
So you expect me to believe that a guy who asks anyone in a Providence strip club with a pulse if they know who yoda is wouldn't watch who a dancer walks over to when she says she is going to try and get "that yoda guy" to spend some money on her? LOL, good one BEM, I was born at night, but not last night.
Don't give yourself so much credit. I already knew who you were at that point. As far as asking about who you are, that question has been posed to me far more than I ever posed it. The questions were posed to me because you are generally considered quite the annoying presence (and I know your not entirely responsible for all the posts that bear your name) on that other website I rarely read anymore by more than one or two of its readers and a big-time annoyance to someone who posts there frequently.
I posted very generic comments upon entering the thread. I even stated at least once my comments didn't relate to you at all, yet for some reason you think they do and you insist on personalizing things.
jaizaine
02-17-2010, 06:48 AM
You are ruthless. I hope you at least gave him a casual reach around when no one was looking. I mean, considering the money spent }:D
FBR
is a reach around a hand-job or something? lol im not familiar with that term.
He spent that amount, or perhaps more I guess over a month or so, visiting maybe every two weeks. He finally worked out I wasn't going to suck his dick.
My morals aside it didn't make economic sense to suck his dick. He paid me between $1-$2k ITC to dance for him and yet he offered $1k to suck his dick.
bem401
02-17-2010, 06:51 AM
This may be my own naivety, but getting an LD from a friend is surely a lot different to your friend giving one to a stranger. You're not going to grab, grope, lick, bite, trip up, or be an ass to your friend. They aren't going to have to stick shift you and will be fine staying within their boundaries 'cause you're a friend.
Come dance in RI for awhile and tell me the typical lapdances are not awkward for people who have interaction away from the club to engage in. Plus my dancer friends have complained often to me about what they have to endure in dances here. The mere fact that I wanted them to engage in that with me would only place a strain on things in both their and my opinions.
sxcbbw
02-17-2010, 06:59 AM
Come dance in RI for awhile and tell me the typical lapdances are not awkward for people who have interaction away from the club to engage in. Plus my dancer friends have complained often to me about what they have to endure in dances here. The mere fact that I wanted them to engage in that with me would only place a strain on things in both their and my opinions.
Yeah, this is what I'm trying to tell you. They wouldn't be enduring that with you, because you're a friend. As a friend, you'd (ostensibly) be a very nice customer and provide respite from assholes at work.
Or are you saying that if you got a lapdance from a friend you would be doing the things girls complain about?
yoda57us
02-17-2010, 10:17 AM
Don't give yourself so much credit. I already knew who you were at that point. As far as asking about who you are, that question has been posed to me far more than I ever posed it.
LOL, That may be but we are talking about your obsession here BEM. I don't have one...
I posted very generic comments upon entering the thread. I even stated at least once my comments didn't relate to you at all, yet for some reason you think they do and you insist on personalizing things.
You sound like the brat who farts in the back of class and then has that "who? Me?" look on his face when everyone turns around. I don't agree with you most of the time BEM so when you post something I don't agree with I will respond. Every time it gets personal however it is you who goes there first.
yoda57us
02-17-2010, 10:22 AM
I entered this thread to respond to the OP's question. I specifically stated no one expressed any opinion on your customer pal personally. Any comments I made about girls' views on their customers apply to all customers, including me when I was one.
I was never a customer of KS, we met after she retired. Assumptions are a bitch BEM, you seem to live by them but that can bite you in the ass most of the time.
I watched Wyatt Earp on netflix last night. I'd never seen this movie before but it was inspirational in terms of being a good sheriff.
FBR
yoda57us
02-18-2010, 06:02 AM
Great flick FBR. I highly recommend "My Darling Clementine" with Henry Fonda and "Gunfight at the OK Coral" with Burt Lancaster as well...
bem401
02-18-2010, 07:06 AM
Yeah, this is what I'm trying to tell you. They wouldn't be enduring that with you, because you're a friend. As a friend, you'd (ostensibly) be a very nice customer and provide respite from assholes at work.
Or are you saying that if you got a lapdance from a friend you would be doing the things girls complain about?
When I danced with some of them years ago sx, I did nothing they could complain about. They called all the shots in the booths. I even told them they could skip the nudity if they wanted, something they all gladly took advantage of. Eventually even the tamest of dances stopped working for us. One girl couldn't even look me in the face while back there. Even stage visits when they were being ignored involved nothing more than them sitting with me, arms generally crossed in front of them. To their credit, they didn't want to dance for me nor did they want to take my money for not dancing for me.
bem401
02-18-2010, 07:10 AM
You sound like the brat who farts in the back of class and then has that "who? Me?" look on his face when everyone turns around. I don't agree with you most of the time BEM so when you post something I don't agree with I will respond. Every time it gets personal however it is you who goes there first.
Here you continue with the childish personal attacks, using elementary school analogies. Talk about obsessions. I tried to keep this thread as impersonal as possible from my first entry.
bem401
02-18-2010, 08:05 AM
I was never a customer of KS, we met after she retired. Assumptions are a bitch BEM, you seem to live by them but that can bite you in the ass most of the time.
So does that mean she charges you more or less than all the others to pay attention to you?
yoda57us
02-18-2010, 08:16 AM
For her to be a hypocrite, she would have to be saying, "I think it's disgusting that dancers take money from guys who are lying to their wives."
Unless the words "her" and "she" are intended to refer to a specific poster your dictionary skills are pointless. I didn't accuse anyone of being a hypocrite. I pointed out a hypocritical attitude that I observed in this thread.
I'm not really expecting anyone who has an SO and performs lap dances for a living to agree with me.
yoda57us
02-18-2010, 08:17 AM
So does that mean she charges you more or less than all the others to pay attention to you?
This is where your closet misogyny comes to the surface BEM. You are pathetic.
bem401
02-18-2010, 08:30 AM
This is where your closet misogyny comes to the surface BEM. You are pathetic.
Paying women to fill some emotional or sexual void in life on a continual basis while married is misogynistic in nature. Doing that is just objectifying them. Once again, you try resorting to the personal attack. Present a single example of anything misogynistic in my behavior or comments.
yoda57us
02-18-2010, 02:10 PM
Paying women to fill some emotional or sexual void in life on a continual basis while married is misogynistic in nature. Doing that is just objectifying them. Once again, you try resorting to the personal attack. Present a single example of anything misogynistic in my behavior or comments.
Well, at least you finally managed to get back on topic...
Strip clubs are places where men go to spend money on women who are naked BEM. That practice in and of itself is neither misogynistic or objectifying. Those are behavioral traits exhibited by individuals. The fact is that a vast majority of customers who do it are married men. If they all stayed home your "friends" would all be broke.
Now, being the principled guy that you are, I'm having a little trouble figuring out how you can take a stand against objectifying women while at the same time hanging around with girls who are way more than half naked during most of the time that you spend with them. Why not just meet them for lunch on their days off outside of the depravity of the exploitative SC environment where they will be fully dressed and not preoccupied with trying to make a living? After all, it obviously offends your sensibilities to even walk in there and see your "friend's" butt cheeks falling out of their bottoms and nipples poking through their flimsy costumes. I don't know how you can take it BEM.
What's misogynistic is taking a shot at a woman on an internet forum that you know nothing about and suggesting that she does or did something with me that she doesn't do with absolutely no basis in fact to support the accusation other than the fact that she was once a dancer. THAT is what I call making it personal BEM. What is misogynistic is spreading unfounded rumors about women that you call friends to anyone that will listen to you in a strip club or answer an email correspondence. You have no more respect for the women whose time you waste ITC than you do for any women anywhere BEM. Your posts all over this website and the dozens of F'd up emails I tolerated from you are all the evidence I need to base my opinion on and I have no obligation to present you with anything other than my opinion.
I can guarantee you that, regardless of what you may think, the average dancer is quite happy to see her married regular show up for a visit with his wallet full of cash. There is nothing wrong with paying a woman to do her job. The fact that it "doesn't work" for you is irrelevant.
KS_Stevia
02-18-2010, 06:23 PM
Paying women to fill some emotional or sexual void in life on a continual basis while married is misogynistic in nature. Doing that is just objectifying them. Once again, you try resorting to the personal attack. Present a single example of anything misogynistic in my behavior or comments.
No its not. Its dishonest. Having an unhappy marriage does not make a person a misogynist.
Yoda has bought me cocktails, that's all. He is good company and a lot of fun. He doesn't come to my work and bug me when I can't just leave the building.
chris91
02-18-2010, 06:24 PM
Unless the words "her" and "she" are intended to refer to a specific poster your dictionary skills are pointless. I didn't accuse anyone of being a hypocrite. I pointed out a hypocritical attitude that I observed in this thread.
I'm not really expecting anyone who has an SO and performs lap dances for a living to agree with me.
Just replace "her" and "she" with "one".
mediocrity
02-18-2010, 06:43 PM
Paying women to fill some emotional or sexual void in life on a continual basis while married is misogynistic in nature. Doing that is just objectifying them. Once again, you try resorting to the personal attack. Present a single example of anything misogynistic in my behavior or comments.
I disagree. I'm not married but hey, I actually have experience being on the flip side of this!
Where to start. Ok. We all know what J does for a living, well- one of his main things. Do you think it is misogynistic that he does what he does for a living, because it fills a void in someone else's life, however anonymous? Is it misogynistic that I stay at home, knowing what he does, despite the fact that it doesn't bother me?
Not in my opinion. He's doing a job and performing a service. He is for sure being objectified by someone. But to me that's hardly detrimental or misogynistic.
If this is disjointed I'm sorry, I hope everyone knows what I am trying to say.
yoda57us
02-18-2010, 07:04 PM
Just replace "her" and "she" with "one".
OK, but it doesn't change my thoughts on the topic.
yoda57us
02-18-2010, 07:42 PM
No its not. Its dishonest. Having an unhappy marriage does not make a person a misogynist.
I agree with this and plead guilty as charged. It's deceptive and it can be hurtful to your spouse, your kids and the rest of your family. I spent a lot of years juggling a lot of things so that I could provide a stable and financially secure life for my kid. When things finally disintegrated my daughter, who was 20 by then, took it all very well and my now ex was already seeing another guy...
Would I change anything? Who knows but I certainly consider myself a better person for having met many of the women I met working in clubs over all those years.
bem401
02-19-2010, 07:33 AM
Well, at least you finally managed to get back on topic...
Strip clubs are places where men go to spend money on women who are naked BEM. That practice in and of itself is neither misogynistic or objectifying. Those are behavioral traits exhibited by individuals. The fact is that a vast majority of customers who do it are married men. If they all stayed home your "friends" would all be broke.
Now, being the principled guy that you are, I'm having a little trouble figuring out how you can take a stand against objectifying women while at the same time hanging around with girls who are way more than half naked during most of the time that you spend with them. Why not just meet them for lunch on their days off outside of the depravity of the exploitative SC environment where they will be fully dressed and not preoccupied with trying to make a living? After all, it obviously offends your sensibilities to even walk in there and see your "friend's" butt cheeks falling out of their bottoms and nipples poking through their flimsy costumes. I don't know how you can take it BEM.
What's misogynistic is taking a shot at a woman on an internet forum that you know nothing about and suggesting that she does or did something with me that she doesn't do with absolutely no basis in fact to support the accusation other than the fact that she was once a dancer. THAT is what I call making it personal BEM. What is misogynistic is spreading unfounded rumors about women that you call friends to anyone that will listen to you in a strip club or answer an email correspondence. You have no more respect for the women whose time you waste ITC than you do for any women anywhere BEM. Your posts all over this website and the dozens of F'd up emails I tolerated from you are all the evidence I need to base my opinion on and I have no obligation to present you with anything other than my opinion.
I can guarantee you that, regardless of what you may think, the average dancer is quite happy to see her married regular show up for a visit with his wallet full of cash. There is nothing wrong with paying a woman to do her job. The fact that it "doesn't work" for you is irrelevant.
First off, let me remind you that you derailed this by personalizing things, not me. This post has 5 paragraphs and every one is an attempt by you to sling mud at me, something I didn't do to you at all till the last couple of posts of mine. I haven't been the one struggling to remain on topic
Who said the dancers weren't happy to see their married customers come in with a pocketful of cash? It wasn't me. It wasn't anyone. Actually, its the pocketful of cash that makes them happy. In fact, I said they were many a dancer's bread and butter right on this thread. It doesn't mean they think highly of them personally however and that's what the OP asked and that's what I answered. Why do you think you were so delighted with your ATF's invite to you when it didn't involve $$$? Because she wanted you there, not necessarily whatever wad of cash you generally bestow upon her.
Because you attacked me, here we go....
My presence in the club is a couple of times a week, an hour or two at most each time. My friends don't flaunt their assets in front of me, I don't ogle them, and I suggest they cover up when something becomes obvious and, I notice it, and it seems inappropriate. Spending time with them away the club is not an issue nor is it a priority. I have more interaction with them away from the club than in it with several of them anyhow. It is not at all unusual for one or two of them to alert me when they'll be there or text me when its slow, so its not like my presence is unwanted. I'm actually happy for them when they can do no more than wave hello or nod to me because they're making money. A couple of them have already suggested I stop by because they'll be there today. While I'm there. I'll generally be listening to how rough its been lately, how they'd like to move on to something else, and how unpleasant they find a lot of the guys they have to deal with.
I took no shot at KS. I don't know her. I do know that you pay for the attention you receive in the various arenas where you receive women's attention. She may very well be just as nice a person as any of the ones I'm familiar with. I jumped to no conclusions at all.
I spread no unfounded rumors about anyone. My comments were interpreted incorrectly rather than being taken at face value by someone whose social life seems to revolve around being a SCJ and hobbyist. You even chastised someone else here for doing that several weeks ago. Just like your comments about OTC with KS shouldn't be read a certain way, neither should anything other people say be read that way.
Lets call this off now before FBR kills it. there is value in the topic.
bem401
02-19-2010, 07:45 AM
I disagree. I'm not married but hey, I actually have experience being on the flip side of this!
Where to start. Ok. We all know what J does for a living, well- one of his main things. Do you think it is misogynistic that he does what he does for a living, because it fills a void in someone else's life, however anonymous? Is it misogynistic that I stay at home, knowing what he does, despite the fact that it doesn't bother me?
Not in my opinion. He's doing a job and performing a service. He is for sure being objectified by someone. But to me that's hardly detrimental or misogynistic.
If this is disjointed I'm sorry, I hope everyone knows what I am trying to say.
I don't understand your point, Med. Then again, it wasn't me who brought misogyny into the discussion.
To me, a misogynist is a man who objectifies women and treats them somewhat disrespectfully to derive some personal benefit. Being unhappily married is not an integral part of being misogynistic but I'm sure it can be a part of it.
yoda57us
02-19-2010, 09:37 AM
I took no shot at KS. I don't know her. I do know that you pay for the attention you receive in the various arenas where you receive women's attention. She may very well be just as nice a person as any of the ones I'm familiar with. I jumped to no conclusions at all.
That's BS BEM. The post is here in black and white.
I spread no unfounded rumors about anyone. My comments were interpreted incorrectly rather than being taken at face value by someone whose social life seems to revolve around being a SCJ and hobbyist. You even chastised someone else here for doing that several weeks ago. Just like your comments about OTC with KS shouldn't be read a certain way, neither should anything other people say be read that way.
It's clear from this response that you have no idea what I'm talking about. But I do...
By the way, it's not "OTC" if the woman involved isn't a dancer.